Thread 718791591

Kill all localizers.

>>718791591 (OP)
>localizer sees dialogue which could potentially cause offence to consumers and/or get the game an M rating
>changes it so that this is no longer a problem
Nothing wrong with this.

>>718791591 (OP)
>creators are not out to offend their players
what? who are they to decide what the intent was? i agree op localizers should be hung from the gallows.

>>718791591 (OP)
Leave Pearl to me

Pretty weird that you got stuck on this issue when there's so many localization changes to complain about with these games. Almost as if this is a bait thread.

>>718791591 (OP)
Seems more like an issue with the rating system desu
If they're having to tone down dialogue because they'd be cucked out of their target age demographic by ratings then that's not on the localizer

>>718791857
>who are they to decide what the intent was?
They are employees of the company that made the game.

No need to kill localizers as soon they will be obsolete and killing themselves.

>>718791698
>yes goy get a downgraded version. it's good goy
if the game has something that "offends your sensibilities" then you stop playing and that's that
imagine if they censored classic movies because some soccer mom objects. the outrage would be immesaurable

>>718792196
>imagine if they censored classic movies because some soccer mom objects.
why are you pretending that never happened?

>>718791591 (OP)
You will never get me to defend Dr. Hotti, objectively one of the shittiest characters in the trilogy.

>>718791901
>yes goy you can't complay about pervy characters, go complain about grossberg's hemorroids instead
your infectred axewound will claim you soon

>>718791698
kys

>>718792196
>if the game has something that "offends your sensibilities" then you stop playing and that's that
And how do you know that original writer of that dialogue intended for it to offend the audience?

>>718792279
He asks to see Trucy's panties in Apollo Justice too
But then again she's quite excited to show off her panties

You hate localizers so much, why dont you become one?

meanwhile

>>718792519
soul

>>718791591 (OP)
What does he actually say? I need to judge for myself.

>>718792389
that's not an excuse to stick your nose and rewrite the author's words. you're paid to TRANSLATE, not write fanfiction

>>718792519
KINO

>>718792596
If the company tells you to translate the game to avoid an M rating or to avoid offending the audience, then you may have to make changes.

>>718791591 (OP)
>Skirting the line between T and M rating
So it's nothing to do with localizers?

Why don't weebs learn Japanese instead of constantly complaining about localization

>>718792596
>you're paid to TRANSLATE
No, you're paid to localize, which involves more than than just translation.
>>718792740
Most of them barely know English. They don't have the aptitude for Japanese.

>>718792713
Did this happen? Or is this just what the localizer says when he isn't talking to his clique, bragging about changes he managed to smuggle past the actual creators?

>>718792740
>you must learn a difficult language fluently to avoid goy censorship and westcuck ideas

>>718791698
based

>>718792804
>Most of them barely know English. They don't have the aptitude for Japanese.
Good enough for the localizers, good enough for those complaining about localizers.

>>718792740
Don't worry once AI replaces them we won't complain anymore.

>>718792829
The game in the OP was localized internally by Capcom. You're saying the Capcom execs are intentionally sabotaging their own games to spite the director? I don't think you realize how ridiculous you sound.

>>718792873
If youre going to spend countless hours of your life consuming Japanese media from anime to games to manga to music then why wouldn't you want to understand it

>>718793080
>all Chinese made goods should be written in mandarin not English. Why would you consoom without understanding.

>>718792740
I am a true American. I will NEVER learn a foreigner language.

I figured people would be more offended at trying to make the game seem like it takes place in America

>>718793178
God I wish this were the case just so people would become aware of the Chinkslop they are consuming. They would be much less eager to ship all of their countries futures overseas if they suddenly woke up and all of their language was swapped to the country it came from.

>>718793178
Most Chinese goods arent read or heard as they are physical goods you use like a hammer or tool. Disingenuous argument compared to media that relies on communicating to the consumer with language like games and anime

>>718791591 (OP)
eat your donut in los angeles mr phoenix and shut up

>>718793259
>I can't learn a foreigner language.
Fixed

>>718793354
The reason it was done was because the first case of the first game uses time zones as evidence. Thus, the location had to be specified.

>>718792740
>yes goy just let trannies rewrite media freely
shalom
you seem to be forgetting that pozcalizer teams tell japs to censor shit for the domestic release to pass the buck to the japs. who am I kidding you're being facetious

>>718791591 (OP)
Why don't americans just improve their society?

localizers are cut from the same cloth as HR
every single one is unfit for the 'service' they provide.

>>718793728
Making fun of pedos might upset the president

>>718791591 (OP)
That's the kind of stuff you have to accept. The problem is the atttiude of hte localizer, fuck off with ick factor, if they can't be fucking objective they should be fired and publically executed by a

>>718793728
sorry, they're too mindbroken by foreign media

>>718793960
make blumpf drumpf again!

>>718793960
Why would George Bush have cared about Ace Attorney 2 releasing with the original humor in 2002? That is schizo-tier.

>>718791951
It's on them for deciding that the game has to be censored to acquire a younger target age rating than the game's content actually dictates.

>>718791698
>which could potentially cause offence to consumers and/or get the game an M rating
Neither of these are problems.

>>718794879
What is acceptable for a T rating in one country may not be in another.

>>718792740
I do both.

>>718793728
>the perverted characters that hit on little girls are never the good guys and are always the butt of jokes or the bad guys or play some other negative role

>>718794879
>than the game's content actually dictates.
Except that the country the game was made in has completely different standards
If something is considered acceptable for 13 year olds in Japan but not the US then obviously they're gonna change it if its aimed at 13 year olds
I don't even understand what you're pretending to be outraged about

>>718795002
It is if the company doesn't the game to be M rated.

>>718792804
Localization isn't the level beyond translation. It's a thing you will do while translating. In other words you are paid to translate. And at times you will have to localize during the translation process. Quit this "We don't translate we localize" bulsshit. You do translate, saying you don't translate is just an excuse to rewrite shit. Whci by the way rewriting dialogue is not part of localization. Localization requires preserving the meaning.

You know if you consume media that isn't aimed at children you will never run into the issue of things being censored to appeal to children right?

>B-B-BUT MUH RATING
9 year olds are the main demo for CoD, rating means absolute jack fucking shit and everyone in this thread knows it. It's simply not an excuse.

>>718795283
>and everyone in this thread knows it.
People in this thread aren't the ones who rate the games you retard.

>>718791698
You fags are no different than book burning nazis

>>718791591 (OP)
Anyone who unironically uses the term, "ick" should be sent to the Fent mines in Cambodia.

>>718795197
>Localization isn't the level beyond translation.
I never said this. I said that translation is a part of localization.
>Whci by the way rewriting dialogue is not part of localization
Yes it is. For example, one may have to change an obscure cultural reference because no one in the target demographic will understand it.

>>718795368
Why are you faggots so melodramatic about this game which you haven't even played?

>>718795046
You're already fucking up because what other country has an ESRB T rating? Generally they have their own rating systems with their own content guidelines. Something like blood might be considered an instant 18+ in some places but may only be 13+ in others. What that means is that at 13+ in country A is roughly equivalent to an 18+ in Country B. So if you were actually being considerate of the local culture you wouldn't change the content, you would change the rating.

>>718791591 (OP)
>live in a country where pedophilia is normal in the government
>"No goyim, no anime girls for you!"

>>718795368
Why do faggots like you use the word Nazi like regular people use a comma?

>>718793630
>shit for the domestic release to pass the buck to the japs
lmao no one complains about this shit but a few autists, imagine thinking there is some grand conspiracy effort here

>>718795641
Holy shit you are stupid. I never said other countries have the ESRB. I'm saying *the content* which is acceptable for a T rating varies depending on country.
>So if you were actually being considerate of the local culture you wouldn't change the content, you would change the rating.
Then take it up with Capcom, because they're the ones who wanted Ace Attorney 2 to have a T rating.

>>718795641
>So if you were actually being considerate of the local culture
Your mistake is that you assume game companies care about "respecting local culture" rather than profits.

>>718793259
but americans speak English

>>718795549
>one may have to change an obscure cultural reference because no one in the target demographic will understand it.
That's not localization because the localization requires preserving the meaning. You wouldn't change the reference because no one would get it, you would find the closest equivalent to said reference in the target language. You don't change the reference to make it more understandable(It not being understood could be the point after all) you change the reference to recreate the experience of consuming the product in it's original language.

>>718795635
Kill yourself.
>>718795789
Kill yourself.
>>718791698
Kill yourself.
>>718792003
Kill yourself.
>>718792389
Kill yourself.

>>718791591 (OP)
Trvke
>>718793960
*every US president and politician post-ww2

>>718791591 (OP)
Sometimes I question if these people have basic reading comprehension. They clearly must know some japanese because they're translating but the act of interpreting text? Phoenix's line contains
>もんか
"もんか" again for emphasis.
>Three text boxes of "Absolutely Not"
Oh really? Wow who would of thought
>Creators are not out to offend their players either
Based on Phoenix's reaction they definitely wanted you to hate him hough. I'd think someone with no japanese knowledge could pick up on that but maybe it's some C2 CERF level shit. Requires you to fold your japanese atleast 1000 times.

>>718795368
Never ask which books they were burning, stupid goy.

>>718796106
The idea that English is a foreign language to America because the British colonies declared independence from England is such an absurd stretch that I can only assume you are both brown and also retarded.

>>718797195
Nice ESL translations.

>>718797195
The dialogue choice for the original is just as weird. But I think having these strange, offputting dialogue be indicative of what types of people Phoenix has to put up with JUST to solve a case would really paint how fucked his situation is and why him going rogue in Apollo makes much more sense.
Which would be nice, if Apollo's game was any good...

>>718791591 (OP)
>why isn't he a pedo
what an odd complaint

>>718791591 (OP)
>unfortunately, the team was unable to change the animations for the localized version
Hate these people.

>>718791698
I'm offended by you breathing, so you should stop

>>718795368
Nazis were the baddies. We're on the right side of history incel.

>>718791591 (OP)
It's always americans. Always.

>>718791591 (OP)
>localizer censors pedophilia in a cartoon game for children that you can freely play in the original language
>call to kill all localizers
You're incompatible with civilization and will hopefully be tortured to death in the inevitable civil war.

>>718792389
translators thinking it's their divine duty to determine intent, beyond what is necessary to accurately translate, can fuck off
It's not their job to second guess the author or recontextualize his works

>>718795942
the stuff at >>718797195 is inoffensive
hang yourself trooncalizer

>>718792713
>If the company tells you to translate the game to avoid an M rating or to avoid offending the audience, then you may have to make changes.
Yes, but that isn't what was said. "nothing wrong with this" is what was said

>>718791698
>>718792927
Kill yourselves

>>718792740
>it's okay that they're doing a terrible job because you can just do it yourself
The entire purpose of their job is so people don't have to learn another language to read something, faggot

>>718793080
Saying you need to learn a language to understand these works is tacitly admitting that localizations are unfit for purpose

>>718798236
>Why isn't the translation accurate?
Kek what a valid complaint

>>718798793
Not sounding particularly compatible with society yourself there, champ

>>718792389
Well if we practice basic reading comprehension we can see Phoenix has the line
>ゼッタイ
>つれてくるもんか。。。。!
Which shows a high degree of contempt for the doctor. Do I need to explain further? Do you need a 1000 word essay explaining how we can infer what the author intended from that? I hope not because that'd mean you're dumber than a toddler.

>>718793259
I keep forgetting about this because it was staged, even the memes are soulless.

>>718798236
if he was in the original,he should be in the translation
keep the meaning, faggots. No excuses

>>718799721
>t. conspiracy theorist

>>718796673
But especially the current one (and Bill probably).

>>718799815
He could just hand over the medical records to clear it all up. curious how he doesn't, or how he was allowed to stand still to do the photo op.
Very curious indeed

>>718791591 (OP)
So they made a pedophile more likeable for their Western audience?

>>718799970
>t. crackpot

>>718791591 (OP)
>don't change the dialogue
>game gets banned because it promotes pedophilia
wow great solution there, anti-censorship cucks

>>718800104
>t. sucker

>>718791698
Why do insane ideological retards who make up a tiny minority of your potential consumers need to be appeased?

Who the fuck cares about age ratings in 2025? Are you retarded?

>>718796116
No argument

>>718800135
He didn't say "unfortunately we had to do this so the game wouldn't be banned", he essentially said "ew icky it's my job to change this!"
Those are very different approaches to the job, the correct one and the pathetic faggot one
Sadly most localizers choose the latter.

>>718800135
In what way does it promote pedophilia?

>>718800170
I bet you'll deny the election next!

>>718800179
You know you just described this board/site, right?

>>718799989
I'm not gonna lie that IS pretty suspect. Why are localization defenders trying so hard to defend a potential pedo being shown how disgusying they are? Hmmmmmm.

>>718791698
This is just pure retarded shit. If the game is M rated it should stay as M rated game if the game is AO game then it should be an AO game, simple as. Fuck censorship.

It seems like /v/ermin are physically incapable of just saying "yeah that's stupid but it's not enough to stop me from playing the game". They cannot say that. They HAVE to defend the idiocy, for some fucking reason.
>>718800435
Yes Anon, people who want to censor art are bad whether they're christcucks or tranny faggots like you.

>localization writers need to fuck off and die
>but you won't learn Japanese to read text natively and understand jokes and phrasing as it was originally

You can't have it both ways.

>I want straight translation

And it's fucking dry. That's what the fan translation team doing TGAA1 did and their text gave the characters no personality and the game put me to sleep.

>>718800349
>dialogue remains the same as in japanese
>some soccer mom gets wind of it and gets the government involved
>crackdown happens at the ESRB, demanding that they pull the game from US stores
>entire Ace Attorney series gets banned in the US
This is what reality would have been like if they kept the dialogue for western releases.
Don't pretend like this wouldn't happen. You know I'm right.

>>718791698
>dumb tranny gets offended and decides to change things in behalf of all potential customers
that's a huge problem, kill localizers ASAP.

>>718800636
Anime fansubs are better than crunchyroll reddit meme trash 100% of the time. You are a shiteating retard and you should commit suicide.

>>718800637
>we should censor art because otherwise art will be censored
Amazing argument, buddy. You definitely should not slit your wrists.

>>718800637
I don't think it would have, but you're dodging the point that he's not reluctantly changing things to prevent that scenario, he's eager to change them because he's the content and morality police, and it's people like that who should be ejected from the industry and rendered unemployable

>>718800637
the dialogue that was changed is completely inoffensive. see >>718797195
you're a disgusting pedo character defender whitewashing their reprehensible actions

>>718800637
in germany the karens lost their fight to ban violence in games. somewhere along the 00s they gave up and suddenly blood and violence wasnt a problem anymore when before games censorship in germany was insane and bizarre.

>>718800883
My point is that that it doesn't matter if the localizer wanted it or not, because someone else on the totem pole would have demanded it regardless.

>>718800637
>Don't pretend like this wouldn't happen.
It's happening to things that lefty localizers like now :3
What goes around comes around...

>>718800636
>b-b-but the translations are too dry if I don't insert retarded memes that won't make any sense to someone that plays the game a few years later!!!
Retarded subhuman.

>>718801046
really?
like what?

>>718792519
My favorite character
Sal Manella and Door Man also Hugh Cawk

>>718800637
nah, these censorship campaigns eventually lose steam and fizzle out. just look at the satanic panic, most people dont even know about it anymore, but it was all the rage in the 80s and 90s and got tons of media censored.

>>718791698
damn, so localizers are deceiving people into giving money to support "problematic" developers by covering up said developers "problematic" tendencies?

>>718801012
And my point is that the localizer is a massive faggot who did want it, which is why OP is correct
Also Phoenix Wright came out during the brief period when games were allowed to exist uncensored and problematic shit wasn't burnt on the pyre, it would have been fine

>>718791591 (OP)
this
>>718791698
still no proof of age ratings being an issue for sales or market reach
also still no proof that age rating changes were even a thing in the first place
kill yourself bootlicker brown
>>718792740
subhuman troons and homos raping others' IPs is bad
I know this is a hard concept for turdworlders to get thoughever

>>718800636
>And it's fucking dry.
Annnnnd stopped reading here. Come back when you have a real argument, sub IQ.

>>718801209
>these censorship campaigns eventually lose steam and fizzle out.
oh really?
Government figures have been trying to censor video games since the 90s
And what is the most discussed thing today? Visa and Mastercard being spearheaded by republicans to censor video games.
It's literally the longest fighting battle for expressions in this medium. Fuck off with your "lose steam and fizzle out". You are a tool.

>>718801110
Leftists in general are (rightly) upset that porn is being blocked by payment processors
I don't want this to happen, but I still derive schadenfreude from seeing censorship loving wokescold cunts get what they deserve

>>718801415
>spearheaded by republicans
Australian feminists you mean

>>718800425
That's your job

>>718801462
Leftists aren't consuming porn, you fucking imbecile.
They have been demanding the censorship of porn for decades.

>>718795368
I... thank you...

>>718801568
Leftists venerate "queer" porn and sex workers, you idiot. Get a clue before running your mouth. I've seen lots if them upset about this.

>>718801462
>>718801568
>>718801774
Never got this /pol/ forced meme 'leftist'.

>>718801568
Leftists only want to censor porn that straight men like.

>>718800356
Well you see anon. people who fail at critical thinking are only capable of reacting to things. They can't actually contextualize them. So a normal person reads the Japanese and realizes the writers intentionally made the doctor unlikable.
The localizer reads the line feels discomfort and like a mindless ape destroys the source of their discomfort, and completely alters the dialogue. Removing any traces of the original meaning. This barely sentient creature does have just enough awareness to recognize what they're doing is idiotic but because they're slaves to their base emotions they cannot stop. So instead they "rationalize" by screaming
>Pedophile
>Offensive
And a myriad of other buzzwords.

>>718797195
I'd go for an accurate translation and make it a point to ask the ESRB if it's acceptable to imply a morally reprehensible character is also a pedophile, if it isn't then I'd change it.

>>718801568
Its cuckservatives pandering to christfags bubby.
Know your enemies.

>>718791698
Let the audience decide what they should be offended by.

>>718801836
Lol 99% of the political sphere is split into people identifying with "left" and "right" politics, it's a common term that broadly describes real political alignments, and you should get over your fixation on /pol/

Ah, yeah, because fan translations are 100% accurate.

>>718791591 (OP)
Left:changes some words to the scene
Right:bans the game completely

>>718801893
>ask the ESRB if it's acceptable to imply a morally reprehensible character is also a pedophile
once upon a time we were allowed to have creepy characters do creepy things, and it was considered okay that it was upsetting, because that was the entire fucking point

>>718792740
>why don't you just learn how to do literally everything yourself instead of expecting quality work from the people you paid to do it for you

>>718791698
Yes, nothing wrong with bowing before corporations and letting psychopaths in suits dictate your entertainment. Weakling mentality.

>>718801871
It's even more ridiculous because he's not even a doctor, he's explicitly a mentally unwell patient masquerading as a doctor.

>>718801995
>cuckservatives pandering to christfags bubby.
nowadays sex and porn censorship mostly comes from feminist karens. the bible thumpers are not so prominent anymore.

>>718801995
>please ignore how the group that started this ball rolling a few weeks ago supported leftranny shit nonstop
>was singing praises of leftpedo shit like Cuties
>because they slapped a bunch of conservative bumper stickers on their metaphorical organization's car
>they're all conservative tradcuck chr*stians they are they are THEY ARE THEY ARE. THEY. ARE. BELIEVE. ME. STOP. BLAMING. OUR. SIDE. NOW.
why do leftpedobrowns always act this way when their side gets caught out?
it's always the "not ackchully a leftist" shtick
then they point out how the person/group in question went through the entire "conservative" checklist a few days ago, very inorganic each time where some "new information" is revealed where they were a chud, nazi, incel, project 2025, qanon, anti-mask, anti-vax, etc., etc., etc., all in 5 seconds

>>718802167
>Right:bans the game completely
No, that's the left too,but it's funny to watch you all scramble to throw off the reputation for censorship you spent a decade happily cultivating

>>718791591 (OP)
>character blatantly makes perverted pedo comments over little girls
>everyone on /v/ is offended when its changed.
Hmmmmmmm

>>718802395
>redstates ban porn, make you show your license to go on a list for watching Card Captor Sakura
>demoncrats!!!! D:<
>tribal zionist like you go online to shit stir either as useful idiot brownbotnet

youre tiring mate, log off, not reading your shite not a word, cope seethe, mald

>>718802361
that doesn't fit the narrative though
they're finally realizing how damaging it is to have become rabidly pro-censorsgip, so they're doing whatever they can to deflect and blame the right
but it's too late for that. They had many chances to pull back.

>>718792740
>Why don't weebs learn Japanese instead of constantly complaining about localization

Ironic because only a weeb that consumes foreign media from one nation would ever say this. If you watch foreign media from more than one country the premise of learning the source language of everything you consume becomes even more ridiculous. Just localize properly and translate characters with the respect you would translate a real person.

Also I've noticed the people that say critics should learn japanese also make changes on the justification that westerners can't come to understand japanese or Japanese things. Which one is it?

>>718802395
>why do leftpedobrowns always act this way when their side gets caught out?
Leftists always lie

>>718791591 (OP)
Why don't you just fucking learn the language already.

>>718802643
>redstates ban porn
very important information you're leaving out, brown: the states banned sites like pornhub because phub didn't want to cooperate with them when they asked them to verify the age of the people in their videos
>hyperbole fearmongering
disregarded
>muh tribalism
the irony
>n-not reading
you already did thougheverbeit ;)

>>718802096
So it's a shitty /pol/ forced meme you're covering for. Gotcha.

>>718792003
Localizers are usually 3rd party, not in-house.

>>718791698
If the original creators made something you find unconscionably bad, why cover their asses for them? Why not let their own work be subject to the criticism it deserves?

Unless, of course, you know there's nothing wrong with it and no one but you, and people like you, has a problem with it and you don't want the parts you didn't like to be a highlight for someone else.

>>718802789
Still not readin fumey
Be careful opening this, your nanny state party might send the gopstapo to your trailer

>>718791591 (OP)
This is why you learn Japanese to bypass these mentally ill people.

>>718802618
>wanting a work untouched and not have offensive things scrubbed out makes you a pedo
Do you ever wonder what it's like to not be a colossal faggot?
I mean yes there are a lot of disgusting pedos on /v/ but there are also people like me who just don't want their games censored
learn to tell the difference faggot

>>718802981
ermmm brownie... this falls pretty flat when you respond after a few minutes
concession accepted THOUGH

>>718802996
wokealizers at several japanese companies have more power than this
they can change the original dialogue and character designs at the source if they find them offensive
you can't escape their influence

>>718802643
>conveniently ignores 10+ years of leftists shrieking for the removal of everything they found remotely offensive, which led directly to this

>>718803128
They can't change old shit. And there's an infinite amount of old shit.

>>718791591 (OP)
pearl is a child

>>718801046
who cares aobut what happens to leftist sjw and tranny games? jap games are still being censored and getting pozzed up with cultural marxism and multiculturalism, which is the real issue

>>718803048
Didnt read>>718803214

Don't get detracted by /pol/'s bullshit in who's passing laws to ban porn and video games /v/

>>718802757
why don't you just do your fucking job already

>>718801415
>leftist psyop trying to gaslight people into thinking credit card kikery is a partisan issue
kill yourself. you're a disgrace to the human condition

>>718803316
you did thoughever ;)
thanks for another (You)

>>718791591 (OP)

>creators are not out to offend

localizers arent creators. and creators are often offensive intentionally and as a result of their art. not that a localizer would know anything about that of course.

>>718802806
You on the other hand are covering for your own ignorance. Try learning a single thing about the world around you instead of screeching about the /pol/ bogeyman whenever information threatens to penetrate your neetcave

>>718803324
It's a good thing that less Americans can access japanese content.

>>718803324
>ESLbrownery
>muh /v/ is leftist tourist cope/revisionism
don't you have some trash soup to eat or something?

>>718803301
I don't want any games censored, I just derive enjoyment from censors getting what they deserve

>>718792804
>No, you're paid to localize, which involves more than than just translation.

Even if you want to argue that localization is re writing the material in the way the author would have done it had they written it for a different audience in a different geography, in general the changes people complain about don't fit that description and the localizer changed something because they didn't like it and they project their personal taste on the entire western audience. They localize to their particular subculture instead of all of america or just all english speaking countries. As if america, UK, new zealand, australia, canada, south africa, ireland, etc were all like seattle, san Francisco or their discord server down to the last man woman and child and we wouldn't want to offend them.

>>718803324
>/v/ is blue
hahahahahaha

>>718803494
>/pol/tard upset he's been outted

>>718803324
>>718803697
>caring about left vs right factionalism at all when it's both sides pushing this shit

>>718791698
/thread

>>718803697
I love how /v/ is always decried by tourists as being nazi chudcel /pol/ 2.0 but also, somehow, the champions of the left as is convenient to shit up threads and topics about localization/censorship
>>718803789
>BOTH SIDES
you browns sure were quiet or even cheering for the previous 4 years when this was happening when the other side was in power
really makes one think

>>718803786
Seek help with your obsession

>>718803583
>He's not a bot, just an actual pro censorship shill
LOL

>>718800179
Most people are offended by pedophilia actually, not just a minority of consumers
>>718800763
The company is changing their own product for consumers.
>>718801357
>also still no proof that age rating changes were even a thing in the first place
The OP post is from the translator of the game and they're mentioning the potential M rating being a consideration.
>>718802021
You don't actually believe this.
>>718802834
In this case (the OP post) it was not a third party translation.
>>718802881
>If the original creators made something you find unconscionably bad, why cover their asses for them?
The creator made a joke which is generally acceptable for a game in Japan, but not necessarily for the west. This isn't a a creator doing something heinous and covering it up.

>>718803903
>Seething this hard and resorting to NPC speak
Pathetic.jpg

>>718803908
reread >>718802789
sneethe and cope and dilate
you'll never be white or a woman

>>718803789
Actually yes, this isn't left vs right, it's the elites vs us
I just get annoyed when I see leftists pivot to blaming the right and pretending they haven't been massive censorcunts for a long time, now that they're getting censored too
But really, we are all against this shit, and we should act like it. We have a common interest

>>718804053
>/pol/ is furious that their censorship campaign as been exposed.

>>718804000
>NPC speak
?

>>718792254
Are you saying that was a good thing? Fucking lol you idiots really are cut from the same cloth.

>>718791698
"NOOOOO I WANT MY PEDO CHARACTER OTHERWISE IS CENSORSHIP!!!!!"

>>718792740
TRVKE NVKEM

>>718803481
It's insane that this a thing that even needs to be argued. You don't even need dialogue. If you just watched the scene play out, it's obvious what the actual writers intended. How do you miss that? The localizer has a working heart right? Blood is reaching their brain right? They're neurons aren't dying from oxygen deprivation right? There were multiple people on this project how did this rewrite get through without anyone seeing the problem. How do that many lobotomites get hired and put on the same team?

>>718803984
>The OP post is from the translator of the game and they're mentioning the potential M rating being a consideration.
wokealizer trannies are known habitual liars
especially on any topic related to their work and censorship such as
>their censorship and changes being approved by the original author/creator (zero proof, ever, for any series)
>"saving" """""failed""""" series like Ghost Stories with their cancer
and this is of course ignoring the narcissism and ego displayed by them on the regular, they constantly tell international fans to think of them like messiahs
anyone with a brain would not trust "their word", since it's not credible from that alone, but also due to their past, self-fellating behavior

>>718795078
Same.

>>718804235
Yes, it quite literally is censorship. I'm sorry you can't handle anything remotely challenging, maybe you should stick to mario

>It's the elites
If you want to find out who the elites are, look at who you mention that gets the most blowback, deflection, damage control or just gets you outright censored here if you bring them up.
Protip, it's Project 2025, an actual cabal that's running the US government and wants to ban porn and violent video games

>>718803324
But /v/ is /pol/'s useful idiots

>>718804350
>If you want to find out who the elites are, look at who you mention that gets the most blowback, deflection, damage control or just gets you outright censored here if you bring them up.
Israel?

>>718803481
>and creators are often offensive intentionally and as a result of their art.
But that's not what happened in the OP image. The creator was just making a joke which comes across differently in the west than it does in Japan.
>>718804271
It got through because everyone at Capcom working on the game's western release agreed it was necessary change.

>>718804146
>pornhub not wanting to verify that they aren't selling child porn to "own the red state chuddies" is censorship
big yikes there senpai ong
lowkey sus as hell fr fr

>>718804423
They're actually co-conspirators.

>>718791591 (OP)
Daily reminder for you to start learning Japanese if you like anything Japanese deeply enough.
I don't mean to demean you by going
>JUST LEARN JAPAENSE FAGGOT
These localizators hate you, they hate what they work with, the only way to fully enjoy the medium you love is to learn Japanese. That's the only way to be free of this shit, it's clear this industry will never improve and it will continue to hire hacks, especially as people's sensivities over Japanese's media increases more and more. So learn Japanese, for yourself, for anime and Japanese games at large.
And yes it's worth it, and yes, it's possible.

>>718804493
>Censorship is fine when I'm in favor of it.
The ironing.

if english dubs vanished overnight, what sector of society would suffer?

>>718804350
>could be
>it seems
the left's recontextualizing machine is still going strong I see

>>718804549
localizers are already changing things at the source
learning japanese does nothing until these troon shitskins are out of jobs permanently
irresponsibly telling people to learn japanese despite this is bad
you should instead be advocating for not buying any japanese media until western influence is gone

>>718804591
Fascinating how the article is non-partisan, yet you reflexively defend the right with your direction mindedness.

>>718803984
If a product is only "generally acceptable in Japan" Why even bother localizing it at all? I'd rather have the original vision intact, over a version altered for other people's sensibilities. Let it live or die on its own merits.
It's just like Pokemon changing onigiri to jelly donuts, or painting out a giant one and painting in a sandwich in its place for no reason. Or pretending like Ace Attorney isn't set in Japan when its entire purpose is essentially inextricable from Japanese culture. There's no reason to do that. It's not 1992 anymore. The average person isn't going to have a fit about fiction set in Japan that isn't some kind of Samurai period piece. Just do as much as you can to preserve the creators' intent.

As in, preserve what can be translated directly, if the story's set in Japan, just leave the honorifics and cultural mores in, and if there are turns of phrase that don't necessarily mean the same thing in the language you're translating to, replace them with a natural turn of phrase that gets as close as you can.

Otherwise, if the meaning is reasonably evident even though you don't think a speaker of your language would use that turn of phrase, use it anyway, because the characters aren't from your culture and they're not actually speaking your language, and that's a nice reminder of that fact.

>>718791698
This pro censorship astroturfing campaign is pathetic

>>718804563
>"censoring" companies that don't want to cooperate with divulging if they are selling child pornography is heckin' bad!
of course this is the hill that leftbrownpedos die on
yikes blud

>>718804549
Essentially, you should learn Japanese because it's a good idea, and ignore everyone who screams JUST LEARN JAPANESE to excuse atrocious localizing practices

>>718804436
>agreed it was necessary change
But that would mean every member of the team is a fucking idiot. Not just dumb and but barely functioning. That many idots being hired and working together? That's a hazard.

>>718791591 (OP)
It's time to accept that Japan has a pedo problem, and that other cultures are right to not embrace it.

>>718804726
>We gotta protect the children by banning everything
>Just ignore the epstein list and trump being at the top of it!
Your virtue signaling is so tiresome.

>>718791698
No, this is the same as leftists saying orcs are black people. They are imagining the problem to be greater than it actually is. Their job is not to censor games anyway.

How every localization thread veers into polshit?

>>718804703
ah, "non-partisan" recontextualizing, my bad
I got thrown off by the "it's not our fault it's your fault"

>>718804847
funny how the epstein list is only an issue now despite leftbrownpedos having all of biden's presidency to act on it
and again, what is wrong with banning porn sites that are selling child pornography, like pornhub is? that's not censorship

>>718804786
>That many idots being hired and working together? That's a hazard.
And also unbelievably common

>>718804672
Don't be a self-defeating doom faggot.
There are plenty of Japanese media that don't have this problem, it's still fairly obvious that anime/manga don't pander to this, I know you will say otherwise without being able to provide proof.
But yes, games are a different story, that is because a lot of studios do make it for more Western market in mind, but if you are someone who plays visual novels you will greatly be helped by learning Japanese.
>>718804785
I think you should learn Japanese not to excuse shitty localizators, but to actively spite them so you don't have to relay on their work and be their bitch.

>>718804953
Care to cite exactly where in the article it reads "it's not our fault it's your fault?

>>718804916
because wokealizer trannies have discords to raid these topics on other sites
they've literally said this on social media btw even the bigger ones like katrina the hambeasts

>>718804916
Because the localizing is done by political radicals, or to appease them
I'm sorry, ignoring reality doesn't make it go away

>>718804916
that happens to nearly every sort of thread

>>718805048
yes

>>718805030
>We must ban everything to protect drawings
>stop noticing the republican's cover up epstein.
No.jpg

>>718804278
Okay, schizo, if you want some proof that translators had creator approval, here's some excerpts from an article written about the localization of the Phoenix Wright series:
>Each name, and even many accents, went through the extended process of being changed by the translator, then approved by the localization team, the producer, the original writer, and even members of the development team. This extensive processes helped work out the best possible choice that could satisfy good English reception as well as fidelity to the original.
>While the practices involved in localizing the title were complicated due to the large number of people involved, Ben Judd explained the core process of how linguistic elements like names and accents were changed as follows: Alex[ander O.] Smith [the translator] would come up with a list of names, and then as a second pass we [the internal localization team] would say oh, like it, like it, oh, that's not going to work, a bit too much, and get through one more filter. And then send it over to R&D, and a lot of the times they would come back and say this, this, and this. And then we would have to sit down and talk.
>Beyond changing the linguistic text, game localization experts are able to alter graphics. With Phoenix Wright a similar interaction occurred between numerous people spanning from Capcom's development team to the external translation agency. According to Judd: "Everyone had played the original game and made suggestions like ‘hey, this needs to be changed,’ and ‘this looks a little bit weird’… And then [the producer] went over to the [development] team and talked about what graphically could be changed. For every change it's going to cost a certain amount of money. And then [the producer] came back with a list."

Article is "Playing (with) the Trace: Localized Culture in Phoenix Wright"

>>718805191
And it's where in the article?

>>718805031
Really? And these are the people translating games? Atleast no one's stupid enough to defend them.

>>718802996
>just sell 4-5 years of your life learning moon runes to bypass the basedlators
we need a real solution

>>718805239
>japanese creator signs off on it because he doesn't really understand or care how it's localized in other countries, and his employer wants to make money
This doesn't make it acceptable localization

>>718805040
not self defeating dumbass, just practical
>it's still fairly obvious that anime/manga don't pander to this
anime and manga are some of the worst offenders though? literally in the same boat as games
endless ecchi anime censorship
ex-Jump heads saying they've had to censor themselves nonstop for westerners for the last few decades
again, learning Japanese does not fix any of this
the root of the problem is these trannies being hired by Japanese companies to begin with and being given power at the source
they are parasites
you don't fix a parasite problem by treating the symptoms, you remove them completely

>>718805157
And the polfags wouldn't want it any other way.

>>718805357
>sell 4-5 years
What are you retarded? Doesn't take nearly that long if you put in the effort. You do a little a day. Here's an easy guide.
https://learnjapanese.moe

>>718805423
Hey, buddy, are your ankles okay? Backpedaling that hard and suddenly usually caused severe sprains.

>>718805239
>wordswordswords "trustmebro, this extremely busy Jap that doesn't know a lick of English understood the retarded fanfic changes I made ;))))"
retard
I don't trust the words of a group of subhumans that are known to be pathological liar narcissists
cope and die mad, they're rats, all of 'em

>>718805239
Anon, a bunch of localizers were outed for going 'lol thats just how we do things' as they've gloated """creator approval"" usually amounts to "hey believe us they dont want x can we change it to y otherwise it will not fly here no siree!" "people wont get this joke here" and then just change entire script scenarios to suit what they wanna push.

And now its only gotten worse with some of them having enough leeway to make the changes during original development on literally a 'trust us mrdev we know how to """"fix'""" this'

>>718805205
>strawman
that doesn't have anything to do with pornhub being banned because they won't stop selling child pornography, thougheverbeit

>>718805483
These people won't learn, they'll find any excuses they can think of;
>B-but anime is pandering to the West anyway so there's no point
>It will take too long!
Etc, etc. I wish people were just honest and admit they don't want to do it rather than using these lame excuses.
>>718805426
Anime has been self-censoring itself for decades long before it exploded in the West or there were puritans everywhere. There are still plenty of shows that don't do this and don't censor themselves, there been a slow rise of ecchi again as it's becoming successful again

>>718805296
>it looks like the feminists but it COULD BE the evil superrepublicans
and that "could be" is all that is required to give faggots like you the nudge to incessantly spam "look at how the conservatives are censoring us (forget about our decade of moral panic censorship btw)" posts here
It really is fascinating how the NPC context updates work

>>718792740
that happens often and TRANSlators always throw a bitchfit and seethe

go kill yourself for even defending them.

>>718805520
I'm not him, just making the point that the creator sign off isn't as meaningful as you might think

>>718805472
okay, what is your non-pol take on the localization issues raised in this thread?

>>718805650
the difference being, retard, that the censorship was only on the television release
but the ecchi series these days are remaining censored even in blu-rays, streaming or non-public, paid subscription channels like at-x
and no, there isn't a slow rise of ecchi, there's a slow rise of softcore porn series getting anime adaptations
of course those aren't censored because that's literally their entire premise is the characters having sex, that is 95% of what's on screen
smut is not ecchi and comparing them is dishonest

>>718805521
I accept your concession. Better luck next thread, bud.
>>718805547
Who asked, retard? I’m talking about Ace Attorney and Capcom. You bringing up that some other translators in a different company lied about a different game has nothing to do with what I just posted.
> hey believe us they dont want x can we change it to y otherwise it will not fly here no siree!"
Okay, let’s accept your scenario for argument’s sake. If the localizers want to make a change and they get approval, whose fault is that?

>>718805547
as they've gloated """creator approval"" usually amounts to "hey believe us they dont want x can we change it to y otherwise it will not fly here no siree!"
exactly, the creators don't know shit about the places they're being localized for, and just believe it when they're told "we need to change this"

>>718805965
confession denied, shitskin
anyone should disregard "trustmebro lol"
especially they should disregard the words of a group who said they "saved" series like Ghost Stories being "failure" despite trading blows with Pokemon in ratings and getting several reruns
trannylators and their brown defenders like you need to be placed in front of a firing squad asap

>>718795002
it is for a game like phoenix wright which is very obviously intended for a teen audience.
however that wouldn't have got it an M rating anyway

>>718791591 (OP)
These threads are always funny, because I can absolutely, 100% guaruntee you that a lot of games, especially Capcom games, would be infinitely less successful outside Japan without their heavy localizations.
For a start, Resident Evil would be called "Biohazard", a completely generic name that evokes generic, indistinct images rather than a proper BRAND title. Similar to Rock Man, just confuses the image unlike MEGA Man.
Here's so examples for RE
>"You want STARS? I'll give you STARS."
This line is so beloved that people got mad when the RE3 remake decided to actually be faithful to the Japanese script, which did not have the line.
>"Alfred... you crossdressing freak!"
Only exists in the English VO, not in the Japanese script.
>Basically the entirety of Leon's characterization in RE4
Dubism. Japanese Leon at that point is very dry, like in Degeneration.
>"Always something with women!"
Leon gets a lot of line changes throughout the series to supplement not translating his Japanese catchphrase, 泣きたいよ. This is one such example.
Nobody gave a shit about any of this 20 years ago, and don't go "nobody knew", anyone who was an RE fan knew because the Japanese versions used to come out first and we'd get guys like News running TL for us and talking about how the Japanese version has different characterization.

As for Ace Attorney- well, that name is a localization. Phoenix Wright is a localization, and don't delude yourself into thinking a Nintendo DS user was going to start breaking out Ryuichi Naruhodo, or start calling the games "Turnabout Coutroom". Ace Attorney works because it's alliteration, it's catchy, and all the characters in the game are meant to be POP. They're flashy and in your face and RELEVANT, and Japanese culture is not RELEVANT to an AMERICAN and it would KILL the sales of your HANDHELD GAME dependent on LONG TERM IN AND OUT INVESTMENT.

>>718806147
>muh popularity
and that's why all these series are pozzed and censored today
congrats
raping creative integrity for maximum profit is heckin' good, amirite xirsters?!

>>718806147
>Nobody gave a shit about any of this 20 years ago
I did.
And "TECHNICALLY this minor change is also a localization!" isn't a clever argument and doesn't make the localization choices you're defending, or the people making them, any less abhorrent.

>>718792740
It's funny, people here will think of a billion excuses before deciding to just learn Japanese.
FACT
No translation, no matter how "good" you think it is, will EVER be equivalent to the Japanese original. You engage with it in an innately different way, it just isn't happening. You can learn Japanese, for free, right now. All the resources are freely available, you have millions of hours of audio and video resources, terabytes of Japanese reading materials and study guides, entire kanji study packs already made, entire applications designed for study assistance, and so on and so on, and people STILL will not commit.

>>718806229
>raping creative integrity
The original creator of Ace Attorney said he made the first game with a western release in mind.

>>718806407
>The original creator of Ace Attorney said he made the first game with a western release in mind.
this doesn't mean "yeah make all of it into headcanon"
try again, dishonest shitskin

>>718806395
learning Japanese does nothing since localizers are censoring Japanese games at the source

>>718806229
>and that's why all these series are pozzed and censored today
>Resident Evil
>censored
Japan censors RE more than the west does actually.
>>718806370
>And "TECHNICALLY this minor change is also a localization!"
I listed three iconic lines that are constantly talked about (one of which, again, caused controversy) and raised an example of an ENTIRE GAME being altered in translation, which is Resident Evil 4. The fan favourite. With particular credit to its dialogue and sense of humor. The majority of which was invented by the English localization.
Pretty much 50% of all RE scripts at LEAST are heavily rewritten from the Japanese. A good example to the degree of this would be Dead Aim, which erroneously included what seemed to be a rough early localization as the subtitles, and it NEVER lines up with what is being said by the characters.

>>718806505
>I don't need to put in the effort because it's already over.
If they're that powerful then you lost.
Cut your losses and kill yourself.

>>718806454
I already provided you with evidence that the translators had approval from the dev team. You just responded with paragraphs of schizophrenic babble. You may want to look into psychoactive medication.

>>718806395
learn japanese
AND
localizers are disgusting faggots who fail at their jobs
Agreed?

>>718805675
You said, "it's not our fault it's your fault" so where is that exact line?

>>718791698
why don't they just localize games with hitler as being a docile misunderstood outcast? why do they feel it necessary to change and protect a character that canonically is a pedophile? what do they/(you) gain from it?

>>718791698
kill yourself

>>718791591 (OP)
this character sucks anyways

>>718805572
>Strawman
>When that was the objective of the ban
You're not fooling anyone, stop banning porn and video games.

>>718806578
>Pretty much 50% of all RE scripts at LEAST are heavily rewritten from the Japanese
Which is also a specious argument, because even the Japanese versions of those games are recorded in English, suggesting much greater intent on behalf of the developers than an after-the-fact outsourced localization.
Try again.

Which game is this? Ace Attorney Investigations? Is it 1 or 2? Is this localization the same in the original DS release or only in the modern port collection? If it's AAI2, does the DS fan-translation represent the dialogue more faithfully?

>>718806578
>Resident Evil
>censored
yes, newbrown
you would know there have been countless threads over this topic over the last several years if you were an actual poster and not a wokealizer trannycord brigader
yikes
way to out yourself

>>718807061
It’s Justice For All (Ace Attorney 2) and its the original release.

>>718791591 (OP)
This didn't bother me as much as Apollo Legend where a harmless dialogue of a girl (Robin Newman) pretending to be boy got censored to appease trannies. I will not play the game because of it.
I feel too disgusted at the thought that each line is chewed up and regigurated to me by these shameless inane narcisstic troons. That's why I avoid Japanese story-oriented games and visual novels.
I despise these people and the worthless goyim who slop it up.
>>718806395
Yes and I prefer that this experience is not censored and molested by autogenyphiliacs before its served to me.

>>718806605
>strawman
why are browns like this?
I already said earlier that western trannies need to be removed from the companies entirely
paint your brains on the side of your thatch hut's walls already

>>718806810
Reread the article a couple more times, I'm sure you'll find it.

>>718807038
>because even the Japanese versions of those games are recorded in English
The Japanese script is written first and then it is localized to English. Most of the in-dev game back before the did JP VO would have ZERO voice acting, with the voice acting being done and added at the final stages of development.
The English VO is also, purely aesthetic. It was done in RE1 because having Japanese voice actors "sounded unrealistic", especially when dubbed over the live action scenes.
>suggesting much greater intent on behalf of the developers than an after-the-fact outsourced localization.
Nope, there really isn't.
The only times they were heavily involved with the dubbing prior to the modern day was RE1 and RE2.
RE1 because Mikami was an autist, and it resulted in the worst voice acting in the series, and RE2 because Kamiya was wowed by having a "real life American voice acting studio" (in Canada).
>>718807138
Nice mountain of buzzwords, but again, RE is censored first by Japan, and the Western version takes that and barely touches it. The only instance of the west specifically censoring RE was the full color gore and decapitation scene in RE1. Everything else? The Japanese side censored it.

>>718807229
Burden of proof is on you, I'm starting to think you lied. Why would you lie?

>>718806969
that deflection cool and all but ermmm
why does pornhub not want to cooperate with verifying the age of the people in the videos they're charging people for?
why are they complicit with selling child porn?
can you stop running from this with concern trolling about your rightoid boogeyman?

>>718807209
Dude, you said it, you lost.
The localizers are there, in the dev room, changing the games. You lost. Kill yourself and hope you reincarnate as a North Korean rice farmer.

>>718791591 (OP)
>ick factor
Why do they all talk like this?

>>718807272
>wahhh buzzwords
the ironing
and the censorship in the Japanese version, especially the recent demakes, is because of western influence
try again brownoid

>>718807289
Why should we have ID verification laws when they just invade privacy and make excuses for bad parents who don't keep an eye on their own kids?
Does this mean you're going to post your ID here? You should to prove you're in full support of the laws given 4chan is an 18+ site.

>>718807185
Apollo Justice* fuck

>>718791698
>>718791591 (OP)

>>718807306
>so anally annihilated he can't even address the point anymore
thanks for the concession that learning Japanese is a retarded idea so long as trannylators have any influence at the companies ^_^

>>718807272
>The Japanese script is written first and then it is localized to English.
As part of the design process of the core product.
In this case the Japanese script can be likened to an early draft.
There IS no Japanese Leon. The western Leon IS Leon.

>>718807420
There's no point anymore.
You literally said "I can't do anything because they're changing the games at the source". There is no coming back from that, if the devs like them enough to have them in the room changing shit, what can you do?
You'll petition? Great, maybe that'll work this time after not working for the past 40 years.

>>718807379
>why should muh fearmongering concern trolling
okay
but why is pornhub complicit with selling child pornography?
that's why they got banned
stop running from that

>>718807285
No, no, it's in there. Keep trying.

>>718807478
>As part of the design process of the core product.
That's something that occurs NOW. Starting with RE7 when it had dual writing teams for English and Japanese.
That did not happen before.
>There IS no Japanese Leon. The western Leon IS Leon.
That is true NOW, with the remakes.
That was not true for the first 25 years of the franchise. The Japanese players aren't hearing the English dialogue for their Leon- they're reading the Japanese subtitles for their Leon.

>>718807383
>One retarded Xitter user is representative of every translator in every company

>>718807504
that isn't what I said at all, brownoid
you're just booty blasted over me saying you bootlickers' tired platitude is as retarded as you all are
treating the symptoms doesn't fix the problem, remove the parasite
anything else you say on that topic is just seething, tranny, brown cope

>>718807148
Ahh, my bad. The original trilogy received script updates with its several rereleases too, didn't it? The latest release is generally considered the better translation I've heard, is it?

In general, how good are the modern releases considered? I've heard the Apollo Justice Trilogy collection was apparently a poor-quality port judging by its (I think it was Digital Foundry?) review, and i heard maybe a line or two was censored from the 3DS games.
But, I heard that the Great Ace Attorney Chronicles collection was much better? I've not been around for discussions of the Investigations collection, so I've no idea how that one's regarded.

>>718807383
This person is a dumbass. There are ways in japanese to call someone a virgin in derogatory manner. Why do people do this? Do they not know japanese and intentionally making stupid changes is their way of hiding that?

>>718807589
this but unironically

>>718807604
>learning Japanese does nothing since localizers are censoring Japanese games at the source
Please explain how you possibly recover from this.
How do you "fix the problem" if THEY'RE in Japan talking to the JAPANESE developers and changing the JAPANESE games at the source?
You think the Japanese guys are going to go "Mmm... this obese gaijin who doesn't speak our language and made no effort to because "it's over", he certainly knows more about game development than our trusted Judeo-American advisors..."
What is your PLAN retard, or is it that you don't HAVE one. Are you so terminally LAZY and RETARDED that you have to constantly run defense for why you can't learn a language when it has NEVER BEEN EASIER to do so.

>>718807621
>Do they not know japanese and intentionally making stupid changes is their way of hiding that?
yes, but they also make these changes for their leftist in group to laugh at because they're "owning the chuds" when they do it
localizer trannies do not care about the media they work on, at all

>>718807721
please explain why you're a retarded brown that can't read chains or the thread
>more crying
the more you run from
>treating the symptoms doesn't fix the problem, remove the parasite
this, the more telling it is

>>718807589
Yeah pretty much

>>718807776
>run from
I directly addressed it.
How do you PLAN to treat the problem and "remove the parasite" if, according to you, they're all in Japan working on the games directly, and getting in bed with the Japanese staff.

>>718807517
>Do as I say, not as I do
So you're just here to ban stuff, Gotcha.

>>718807586
>That's something that occurs NOW.
because they're making and sanitizing the games for western audiences, which is a separate phenomenon altogether.
>The Japanese players aren't hearing the English dialogue for their Leon- they're reading the Japanese subtitles for their Leon.
They're doing both.

AI is getting rid of all these parasites.

>>718807553
Nah, you're lying, why would you lie about an article because you're obsessed with being a directionbrain?

>>718807589
You'd be surprised

>>718807817
no, you cried about it and dismissed it to repeat your tired platitude, brownie
if you had any cognitive parity you would agree that "just learn japanese bro lmfaooo" is retarded "advice"
as I said, remove the parasite first, then you can spam your gay little back-patting circlejerk phrase used entirely for derailing these threads

>>718807879
>because they're making and sanitizing the games for western audiences, which is a separate phenomenon altogether.
Hardly. The games were way more sanitized in the 2010s.
>They're doing both.
You vastly overestimate the typical Japanese person's ability to understand casual spoken English. Again, for the vast majority, it's aesthetic and nothing more.

>>718807849
again, why is the hill that leftrannypedos die on being
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T BAN PORNHUB FOR SELLING CHILD PORN, THAT'S NOT HECKIN' 100 WHOLESOME CHUNGUS
?
explain?

>>718807941
Answer the question.
How do you PLAN to treat the problem and "remove the parasite" if, according to you, they're all in Japan working on the games directly, and getting in bed with the Japanese staff.

>>718808015
what part of "remove trannylator westerners from jap media companies" is so hard to understand, shitskin?
>NOOO YOU HAVE TO DETAIL YOUR OWN PLAN OF GETTING THESE PEOPLE OUT IN 10000 PAGES, DOUBLE SPACED, MLA FORMAT
go back nigger, you're not my English teacher

>>718807994
>It's okay to ban stuff because of my fanfics
/pol/bot is having a meltdown.

>>718807817
Being honest fixing the problem is secondary to mocking localizers. Their egos are hilariously fragile(Because they know they're bottom feeders) Honestly if you mock them enough they'll probably just self-destruct. You don't even have to feel bad about it, they just say something stupid, you point it out, they have a meltdown.

>>718793781
What was this bitch's deal? Why does she look like some sort of cave creature?

>>718808165
pornhub not verifying the age of the people in their pornographic videos they have behind paywalls and being banned for that reason alone isn't fanfiction, thougheverbeit

>>718807901
In fact, you are a dishonest faggot who reads an obvious paraphrase and immediately screeches "WHERE IS THE EXACT LINE" in a pathetic attempt to lay a rhetorical trap.
I have established that the article's purpose is to use pure speculation to package narrative context for people such as yourself to disseminate.
Keep flailing, but it won't get you anywhere.

>>718808136
>what part of "remove trannylator westerners from jap media companies" is so hard to understand, shitskin?
The part where you actually do it.
You don't know Japanese and have no plans to, so your idea is to go to these companies, who trust the translators enough to let them change the games DURING development per your own statements, and just... say they're wrong? And when you, with your inability to speak or read or write Japanese say this, you'll win? Is that it? Is that the extent of your planning? Is that the extent of your ability to do anything?

>>718808238
But it does, it asks for your age when you enter. That's good enough for 4chan. It's good enough for everyone else that's not a censored hellscape like you want.

>>718808251
>Projection
You claimed there was an exact quote, and when asked for it, you kept evading because you made it up to push your directionbrain propaganda to distract from what the article is saying.
Maybe don't outright lie if you don't want to be called out for lying?

>>718808238
>>718808356
How the fuck are you two not banned for of topic. Is it even two of you? Is just one guy. Is the guy a mod?

>>718807979
You're twisting yourself in knots to push the idea that in-house dubbing for the initial release of a product is the same thing as a secondary localization that inserts fanfiction and censorship.
You lost, but it's not because I beat you.
Your position was simply insupportable from the start.

>>718798793
>censor stranger danger
>kids are no longer weary of strangers
;-)

>>718806395
Woah, the translation is not 1 to 1. Mind fricking blown. I guess troonella can insert xer hiv positive fanfic inplace of actual translation, because it can never be a perfect rendition anyway.

>>718793728
>We understand that the pedos and perverts are the bad guys and the joke is that we laugh at them or are grossed out by them in some way

>However, we are NEVER allowed to do this in america, the pedo is sacred for some reason, you are NEVER to mock him in the media!

What the fuck is wrong with the US

>>718808264
>you actually do it
>you
>you
>you
always this angle for derailing, too
>anon, YOU have to be the one to fix japanese media
no, I don't
this is a mess Japs got themselves in
they have to fix it themselves
instead they seem content to pretend like they care, such as faggots like that one mangaka who got political office, and did fuck all with his position since he just wanted power instead of caring about censorship
seethe forever at me saying "learning japanese is dumb considering the current dogshit, compromised state the medium is in"
>whole bunch of strawman brown fanfic I never said
I'm sorry that you want me to write a formal essay or something, nigger, but it's not happening
I'm not at fault for telling people to avoid a restaurant known for food poisoning, nor for saying that bad advice like "just become a chef at your own restaurant" doesn't fix the main issue of the original restaurant serving poisonous food
hope this helps, though you're probably too brown to understand such a simple comparison

>>718808451
>in-house dubbing for the initial release of a product is the same thing as a secondary localization that inserts fanfiction and censorship
It is. Do you Final Fantasy 14 has a good localization because the team is in-house?

>>718808419
>You claimed there was an exact quote
Learn to understand sarcasm.

>>718808451
>that in-house dubbing
It wasn't in house retard.
The modern ones are, starting with 7, but the dubbing for the games before then was in another country, and the translations were done by staff who often were never involved with the scriptwriting or any game production elements.

>>718808356
age verification to access the site =/= age verification of the people in the videos that pornhub hosts, which they denied doing
so, again, why is pornhub being banned in some states for seemingly peddling child porn a bad thing?
>hurrr because I extrapolate it to tangentially related shit due to ESL reading comprehension and dishonesty
is not an answer, it's a concession btw
>>718808421
begone spic

>>718791591 (OP)
Reading keyed up and other zoomer shit in TotK still passes me off to this day

>>718808562
>I was merely pretending to be retarded
This is the best damage control you can do after being caught distorting what an article says to push your directionbrain trash?

>>718791591 (OP)
>ick factor

>>718808628
Why should i give up my privacy when the old system worked fine? Why are you so hell bent on spying on people and removing anonymity on the internet? The irony being you're on a site that's all about anonymity and in your world, you'd have us all use our real names to post.

>>718808735
>why are you so intent on doing shit you never said
all I said was that pornhub got banned for peddling child porn, my brown fellow
try again

>>718808552
>>718808563
>in-house
Was a poor word to use.Whether it was technically in-house is irrelevant. It was intended as a core part of the product, and is part of the vision for that product.
FF14 is just Yoshi P being a faggot. Games sell out to the west before they're released now, but that's just corporate streamlining and audience chasing, it's not integral to the game like it was in early RE.

>>718808481
>Woah, the translation is not 1 to 1. Mind fricking blown.
It's not about being 1:1, it's about certain things not even being transferable to another language.
How do you make Baldr Force's English furigana and random German come across the same way IN ENGLISH?
Danganronpa, very easy series in Japanese, but nearly all of its humor is then reliant on Japanese quirks and wordplay and the like.
Hell, how do you go about translating Metal Gear Solid 4? The staff who worked on it evidently went the "literal" translation route, with reservations for existing dubisms, but that made every character in the game sound completely retarded. The whole game composes its language in a 'poetic' way, which does not work in English.
Naomi can certainly start and end a statement with "Unmei" in Japanese, but in English that becomes
>“If you want to change your fate, you’ll have to meet your destiny.”

>>718808840
>Pushing fan fics again
Try again

>>718808549
>I have no plan
>I have no investment in this
>Learning Japanese is pointless because they've already taken over Japanese media
>But somebody someday will do something about it
>Not me though
>I could never learn Japanese
>I could never stop this thing that I spend my evening complaining about
>I'm a useless retard who could never achieve anything, in life or in death
>I can only write textwalls explaining how useless and retarded I am
Thanks for admitting it.

>>718808910
>It was intended as a core part of the product,
And in RE's case, the English VO isn't checked. Leon in RE4's English VO and his Japanese script are two completely different characters, and it is a "Japanese Leon" thing because Degeneration, a film derided for including a "boring Leon" in English communities, is a film consistent with that Japanese characterization due to a simple change in who was translating the material.

>>718808647
>damage control
No, it really is just that you cannot understand sarcasm, or are pretending not to in another pathetic attempt to lay a trap.
Anyone with a functioning brain and an ounce of honesty would know I was paraphrasing. You lack one or both of these.

>>718808910
Nintendo Treehouse is in-house theirlocalization are not good.

>>718809209
>I'm merely pretending
>It's your fault for not believing my lies
Your damage control and directionbrain intensifies.

>>718809005
>NOOOO YOU HAVE TO BE THE ONE TO FIX THE SITUATION JAPS GOT THEMSELVES INTO OVER NEEDLESSLY WORRYING OVER SHIT THEY DIDN'T NEED TO
I shan't
I already said anything else you say on this topic is just brown seething and cope
I am not responsible for fixing anyone else's fuckups
>ignores the example since it's inconvenient for his derailing agenda
of course, because you're brown

>>718808950
>brown babble
it's true that all I said was that pornhub got banned for peddling child porn, my brown fellow
I'm sorry if that upset you but it's the truth
find another boogeyman

>>718809357
>I will do and achieve nothing

>>718809357
>>718808549
then why do you care lol

>>718809424
>>718809357
These are the same person oddly enough.

>>718809424
Why are you both so upset at your fan fic being called out and revealing you're from /pol/? We get it, you love censorship

>>718809074
And it's still part of the core game, and not a secondary localization, so it's an entirely different beast even though you attempt to paint them as the same.
At the very least, the lines of creator intent are much more heavily blurred and subject to speculation than they are in games that are released in Japanese, THEN localized and released in other countries. Surely you can at least admit that.

>>718809334
And you are continuing your attempt at petty deflection instead of addressing the actual points that I made, like you dishonest shitstains always do.
Everyone can see what you are and what you do. You are fooling nobody.

>>718809596
>the lines of creator intent
Are not, In-house teams are just as bad. It's changes fuck all unfortunately.

>>718809596
>And it's still part of the core game, and not a secondary localization
The English script IS secondary, and your continual, uneducated insistence on it being core is not going to change that.
The intended Japanese vision and what the typical Japanese player intakes is completely different. End of. English is an aesthetic choice that the majority of Japanese players and the people working on the games will not understand fully.

The ONLY intent involved is that they want that foreign language being spoken to give an air of verisimilitude.

>>718803984
You are a worthless fucking faggot who should commit suicide.

Bump? >>718807620

Why do Japs keep hiring these faggots in the first place? Don't they realize that they're butchering their games for no reason

>>718793503
You are a disingenuous fuck who's baiting and you should kys. This much attention whoring isn't healthy or normal

>>718809756
Except your only point is to turn this into directionbrain shit, and lied about what was in the article to try to push this.
It's extremely clear you're doing this in bad faith and you look to be a shill trying to defend whatever the article is reporting on.

>>718809437
>you have to learn a whole other language before you're allowed to complain about bad localizers

>>718809437
>>718809483
>>718809523
>I will continue to spam brown strawmen and have my fellow discord brigading brown trannies respond to all the posts off cooldown
I know
because you ran from that example and refuse to recognize it's an issue that Japs need to fix themselves, and spam the same tired platitudes used to derail on this topic before, ad infinitum

>>718807589
It is unironically how anti-localization grifters think.

>>718793728
literally nobody would be upset with this.

>>718809973
Probably not. No one is comparing scripts unless they're unhinged.

>>718793070
Capcom absolutely would do that. They don't have to make sense to be abhorrent.

>>718808936
Most dialogue can in fact be quite simply related to an English speaking audience. And obviously things like the plot, settings, characters, visuals, themes usually need little to no "localization". Translated works are not inherently worthless, I don't know why you choose to believe this.

>>718809558
>we get it, you're my brown boogeyman
I'm not thougheverbeit
all I said was that pornhub was banned in some states because they didn't want to verify the videos they are selling have 18+ year old people in them or not
pretty sus ngl

>>718810035
Why did you not respond to the fact that you're getting mad about localizers censoring things, and then praising the fact that the government censors porn sites

>>718810161
>Admitting he's from /pol/ and pro censorship to cover for terrible parenting
Pathetic.

>>718809854
>game gets released in Japan with English dialogue
>with FMV cutscenes acted by Americans
>somehow not intended
Yeah, I guess they just tripped and accidentally filmed some scenes and recorded a bunch of dialogue and put it in the final release, what a massive blunder that was, I sure wouldn't want to be the poor intern who made that mistake!

Is there a bot or something that alerts pro-localizer discord or something?

I wonder what these fucks are saying but i'm too afraid to click cause I might get upset. Can anyone translate to me

>>718810159
>retard misses the point
Of course, someone who thinks words are nothing more than that, probably would miss the point entirely.
Translated works are inherently worthless. That's why everyone used to learn Greek, or Latin, or Roman, or French, or German, and of course, Mandarin and Japanese if they wanted to experience and have dialogue on their greatest works, going centuries back.
Nobody who reads a translation of Faust persists under the delusion that they've had an equivalent, let alone intended, experience with the work, and they recognize they are at an innately lower level of understanding than someone who read it in the original German.

Translation is a crutch you use when you are uneducated. To choose to not become educated is a failing on you as a human being, because it denotes how you lack any curiosity in your brain. You have resources for every language on the planet right in front of you and you actively choose to let yourself wallow in having your understanding of a given work prepared for you by an intermediary. It's embarrassing, it's like having your mother cut up your steak for you at age thirty.

>>718791591 (OP)
OP has that Draymond Green energy signature.

>>718810442
You are a pretentious faggot trying to feel superior on an anime forum. You are almost certainly underaged. Kill yourself you embarrassing faggot.
>le smug anime image
Yeah, it really completes your faggot post.

>>718810273
Are you sure he's not actually a shartynegro?

>>718810304
>>game gets released in Japan with English dialogue
>>with FMV cutscenes acted by Americans
>>somehow not intended
The only intent was aesthetic. They originally did the game with Japanese actors- including actors who dubbed over the FMVs. That's why none of the actors from the FMVs that were shot also act within the game, because their plan was to do a Japanese VO and they decided to instead use English for aesthetic reasons- and aesthetic reasons only. That's why the English dialogue is so weird, as Mikami basically directed it and he directed it to how he thought English should sound (not actually listening to the spoken words, just what sounds nice to a Japanese guy- Godzilla acting basically).

>>718810013
>posts speculative fearmonger article about project 2025, designed to shift blame for censorship
>calls others directionbrained
>pretends he doesn't know the content of the article he's accusing me of lying about, in a valiantly retarded attempt to samefag
Wow, I'd say they're not sending their best, but sadly I think their entire shill pool is just as retarded as this guy

>>718799654
>Which shows a high degree of contempt for the doctor. Do I need to explain further?
Yes, actually you do, because you haven't proven jack shit with your gay little analysis. Phoenix finding Hotti gross in-game does not mean that author intended the *player* to be offended or shocked.

>>718810517
>anime forum
Wrong board, retard.

I am not being 'pretentious', I am stating a fact. This delusion that translations are equivalent is purely a recent thing conceived of by the terminally lazy.
Again, there is nothing stopping you from learning Japanese. There are thousands of guides, thousands of resources, millions of study materials, many of which are on your PC right now in all likelihood, and you choose not to.
That is embarrassing.
>>le smug anime image
You failing to recognize the anime in question illustrates why this is not an "anime forum" by the way.

>>718810190
>>718810273
>>718810609
and here comes the spam + samebrowning

>>718810709
>Upset about an apolitical article pointing out Project 2025's involvement and potential future plans
>Reveals he's a shill for it by going full direction brain
>Also lies about what's in the article making up a fake quote to justify his direction brain ways.
Pathetic, clearly the article is onto something given the level of damage control you're doing. That's just a the facts.

>>718810304
You're a retard if you think the reason for the difference between the Japanese and English scripts wasn't due to localization. Stay consistent and call it out or admit you're fine with localization in some cases.

>>718810610
>The only intent was aesthetic
Aesthetic intent is still intent.
>Mikami basically directed it
Intent.
You are only strengthening my point that this is not comparable to a secondary localization.

>>718791591 (OP)
Kek very American.
If not about genital, it's about their fragile feeling being uncomfortable. China 2.0 lmao

>>718807620
>>718809908
Yeah, the originally trilogy had a few script changes, mostly just correcting a few errors or adjusting for other games in the series. This blog here gathered them all.
https://gyakutengagotoku.tumblr.com/post/144339054017/ace-attorney-trilogy-dialogue-changes

As for the Apollo Trilogy release, it has some nice features and the sprites were remastered well, but frankly is a bit overpriced. I know there were a couple lines regarding a cross-dresser was changed for one of the cases, but I don't know if this was just western release change, or if it was changed in the JP as well.
Great Ace Attorney collection is good deal and definitely worth playing.

>>718810950
I only strengthen your point for the first game actually.
After that, they kept the English aesthetic for dialogue, but outsourced the translation and performances, and again, the English scripts were dramatically altered from the Japanese.
You just say "Yeah but that doesn't count" and then ignore any points being made. It's annoying.

>>718810897
>brown knows about inspect element
sad...
still doesn't change phub selling child pornography and being banned thougheverbeit

>>718806395
These are culture war threads for trolls that spend 12 hours a day arguing online, not threads for people that care about games. People that like Ace Attorney post in Ace Attorney threads, not threads like this.

>>718811226
>inspect element
I feel like you have to be a third worlder for this to be your immediate conclusion.
Not photoshop, or paint, or just a built in feature for 4chan X (not that a thirdworlder phoneposter LARPing as an American would know about a browser extension), it has to be inspect element, because that's all they let you use on your school issued chromebook I guess.

>>718810836
>apolitical article
No.
>pointing out Project 2025's involvement
Speculating that it MIGHT be involved, but I'm sure you're totally impartial, right anon?
>Also lies about what's in the article making up a fake quote to justify his direction brain ways.
I'm begging you to look up the word "paraphrase", or at least admit you don't know what it means.

>>718810741
The MC has an thought that is visible only to the player that's only there to explicitly state the MC finds the doc reprehensible. What is the purpose of this line?

>>718810442
We are talking about visual novels and video games. I can extract what I want from this medium without speaking the language. But maybe you do not have imagination for that sort of discernment. Your neovagina is leaking.

>/pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/
Is there any other group that lives more rent free in tourist brains than this?
What's funny is that /pol/ is mostly SEA/LATAM larping as whites. It's a literal RP board, like /trash/.

>>718811367
I feel like you're mad because that's exactly what you did kek
better luck next time samebrowning I guess

>>718791591 (OP)
>Creators are not out to offend their players
Meanwhile avant garde theater actors used to launch poop on their audience in the last century

>>718811420
Yes, it's apolitical, which caused you to go all directionbrain to the point you fabricated a quote. Where you first claimed it was in the article and I just needed to look for it. >>718807229 and then you backpedaled more claiming it was 'sarcastic' >>718808562 now you're trying to claim it's a paraphrase, aka you made it up, were caught and are now trying different types of damage control.
It's really pathetic.

>>718810871
It's not localization if it's not being changed for a local market. It was recorded in English for Japanese people.
But it was never my position that all localization is bad. You're drawing a false equivalence between those that take excessive liberties and those that don't.

>>718807589
yeah

>>718810871
Localization preserves the meaning. So by definition if the meaning isn't preserved it's not localization.

>>718811538
>half the threads on the board at any given time are culture war retardation
They also live rent free on the catalog, retard. And if you don't see a problem with them being allowed to shit things up constantly, regardless of what color they are, then you're just as braindead as they are.

>>718811884
If only there were people who would clean up off-topic threads on boards for zero pay.

>>718811852
You appear to be confused. Translation preserves the meaning, localization means deliberately changing things (including the original meaning) to make it more digestible for stupid people. See: the hundreds of thousands of examples of retarded 'localizers' inserting unfunny jokes or quips in place of the actual script.

>ANY DISCUSSION I DON'T LIKE WHICH ISN'T UNABASHED SUPPORT OF UNRESTRAINED CONSUMERISM IS CULTURE WAR /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ AIEEEE I'M GOING INSAAAAANE
Meds.

>>718811043
>I only strengthen your point for the first game actually.
My point is strongest for the first game, but the fact that they purposefully continued the trend certainly suggests intent to me, even if there was a bigger gulf between the scripts. It's still a far cry from Phoenix Wright.
>It's annoying.
Since you're being so civil, I'll apologize for that. I'm 100% correct of course, but my arguments aren't terribly focused today, owing to various factors. In fact I'm going to go and address that now, have a nice day.

>>718811884
That's not /pol/ retard, that's /v/.
/v/ is responsible for the culture war threads, and was the board that infected /pol/- not the other way around. /pol/ pre-2015 was a completely different board.

>>718811708
>and I just needed to look for it.
No need to remind me of my own incisive wit, anon, I was there.

>>718812052
Unfortunately what happens when you hire stupid people. They think that being a "professional" game translator means they have qualifications. And then they misuse words because google requires at-least one brain cell to use.

>>718810086
It is unironically how localizers are. Every single one is a mentally ill troon on twitter.

And soon, they will commit suicide after they lose their jobs to AI.

>>718812436
I'm just reminding everyone else of your deceitful behavior and attempt to cover up what is going on by appealing to direction brains, assuming you aren't one yourself, which it looks like.

>>718791698
Whats wrong with M rated games fag?
>>718795368
This

>Everyone who complains about localization is an ESL or Xitter retard
Hmmm makes you think

So if i wanted to play AA, where should i start and which platform has the "best" translation since i know that AA games are notorious for the localization

>>718811739
It was changed for the local market that's why the script was changed when localizers read the Japanese script for re4. They just never bothered to do a Japanese voice over but that doesn't mean it's not localization because localizers are the ones that added some of Leon's 1 liners. They altered his personality drastically which I would is taking some excessive liberties but it's fine because some people like it.

>>718812623
>Whats wrong with M rated games fag?
It'd be a pretty big issue if you were releasing a game for children and then said children couldn't play it.

Where did all the based translators go?

>>718813421
Hunted down and exiled for daring to be free.

>>718813330
Why would you release an M rated game for children?
>inb4 COD

>>718813712
The idea was that a Japanese game could have content that nets a higher rating outside Japan. Shit like skimpy outfits in an E Rated game most obviously, casinos usually got taken out before the E10+ wiggle room was added, and explicit references to sex always got cut because that bumps the rating up.

>>718813330
I don't think "anime game with big titty bitches and bloody violence and genocides and rape and killing deities" is meant for kids, sweatybrown...
Try again.

localizers dont even know japanese. how do they get these jobs?

>>718813856
Sometimes you just can't get around it, like this scene from Dual Destiny is the reason it got an M rating and it was plot vital.
Capcom bit the bullet there because Dual Destiny in America was digital only, making it easier for kids to get around any potential blocks.

>>718814349
>talks like a nigger
>calls other people brown
???

>>718792740
Both. But why should I pay Japan and the West for something they both messed up on? Why should anyone receive my money? It cuts both ways.

>>718814409
Some nose gets them into the position.

>>718802996
Running away from your problems does not solve them. It only makes it worse. Take it from someone who has been learning Japanese only to find out that they are trying to filter them through Credit Card companies, and various other pipelines. We have to solve it ourselves.

>>718813856
>explicit references to sex
Japanese games aren't any more explicit than western games when it comes to sex references. Actually did you know Seren Kagura and Gal Gun are 17 and up in Japan. Dead or Alive 17 and up. >>718814434
Even Dual Destinies was 15+ in Japan. Mature is a big threshold but still. I can't think of a
>Disgaea CERO A
What?

>>718814437
>has niggers on the brain
>seethes at being called the shitskin that he is
big yikes family

>>718805547
True Creators have zero clue about anything outside their own bubble and they just say "yeah whatever here you go" because they do not have time to care about the Western Market despite making more. It's usually about the Domestic one.

>>718814724
>Japanese games aren't any more explicit than western games when it comes to sex references.
Dude, the fucking retarded Sonic isekai anime has Knuckles considering going to a strip club.

>>718812997
guess thats a no on Ace Attorney

>>718807589
Anon you would be absolutely shocked. Translators are literally like the EVERY.SINGLE.TIME meme.

>>718814880
that brown tourist knows which is why he (male, forever) seethed

>>718791698
sure

>>718804350
Russ Vought and Project 2025 are controlling the EU and UK, which generally have left-leaning governments which all threw fits about the original Project 2025 document?

>>718812997
Just start with the Ace Attorney Trilogy on Steam.

>>718814958
It's censorship for a show intended for toddlers.

>>718791591 (OP)
'ick factor on 'eck

>>718808542
Intellectual Pretzel basically. They try to justify their beliefs even though it's wrong, but also project their beliefs onto foreign media thinking that is what it is even though it's not. It's a misconception of trying to project ones culture on another instead of understanding the culture itself and how it's different.

>>718815031
>toddlers
You have to be trolling.

>>718815231
4kids time block is one intended for incredibly young children. Toei sold them One Piece as part of a package because they felt it fit in with their content.

>>718814409
Nepotism. Look at the HQ's in America you would be surprised at how many are along a singular highway in the coast of California. Konami, SEGA, Atlus, you name it.

>>718791591 (OP)
all localizers are failed writers, give them a break

>>718814836
What's the rating for Sonic X in Japan?

>>718792740
I'll just use AI
:)

>>718815397
Kodomoshit probably

>>718812213
>>718811884
I think there is truth to what both of you are saying. Pre-2015 /pol/ was very much different. Yes they talked about Jews, and Black people etc. But hardly did they care much about Culture war stuff. It's interesting to see how it has evolved over the decade thanks to the Culture War GAMERGATE and then the Election Tourists right after. I will say that it does seem like both are going away.

>>718814975
>Article is about American companies and government, and who is influencing them
>WHATABOUT...
No.

>Retards itt screaming censorship for the sake of "protecting the children"
>"The character is a pedophile you chud, why are you defending him"
Does that mean we should rewrite all the tranny characters in games/movies/tv?
I mean, it certainly get rid of that "ick" factor while removing pedophiles from games.

>>718815589
It's pretty funny how the same guy is obviously getting mad about censoring Japanese games while also running defense for removing porn from the internet to protect the children.

>>718815512
The same thing is happening all over the developed world. It's clearly not a left vs. right issue and neither side is solely responsible for it. They're working together to create conditions over which they can squabble and fight for total control amongst themselves, without anyone else getting a seat at the poker table.

>>718815589
Tyrants always use “defending the children” as the basis for their power grabs.

>>718815724
Well in America, the issue clearly appears to be Project 2025, regardless of left or right, they are the bigges threat in american that needs to be addressed if you care about video games and anime. Yet directionbrains are trying right now to make this into a left verses right issue.
Why is that?

If political bait threads got a 14 day ban, how quickly would this board improve?

>>718815980
You'd need to delete /pol/ if you're actually serious about cutting it off from the source since containment is clearly a failure.

>>718815965
Trump signed an executive order that prevents financial institutions from refusing to do business with entities who are following the letter of the law, regardless of their opinions or the nature of whatever goods and services they may produce. There's no cut out in the order that says it only applies to banks, or that it refers to exclusively political affiliations. It's a blanket order that says that because they have a functional duopoly, they have to do business with anyone who's not committing a crime and their own opinion cannot factor into it.

>>718816076
>containment
You're on the containment board retard.
Again, /v/ infected /pol/, not the other way around. Nobody native to /pol/ is coming to /v/ to shitpost, they just do that on /pol/ and twitter.

>>718816441
>/pol/ actually believes they aren't a containment board
Election tourists say the damnest things.

So you aren't allowed to depict morally bad things in media even if said character is unambiguously in the wrong?

>>718816506
>Election tourists
You're the newfag since you think /pol/ took over /v/ and not the other way around.
In 2014-15, two major things happened.
First, /v/ welcomed in DROVES of redditors with open arms.
Second, dozens of /v/ threads got moved to /pol/.
Essentially, /v/tards and their redditor pets were dumped onto /pol/ and completely changed the makeup of that board, which is why by 2016, it became an unusable hellscape of Trump "memes" from twitter and people following reddit drama.

>>718815693
it's pretty funny how no one did that and you ignored that pornhub didn't want to remove child porn off their website so they got banned

>>718816587
>Re-writing history
I've never seen this cope before, but given /pol/ always needs to play the victim while they attack everyone, I'm not shocked.
First off it was /r9k/ that opened the flood gates to reddit, then /pol/ for the 2016 election, and you just kept letting them in until /pol/ became the gateway board,
So it's all your fault.

>>718814434
This is also why FF16 got an M-rating from the getgo. Cause Joshua got blood spatter on him. Everything else, the cursing and covered nudity was barely anything.

>>718816076
Containment worked great until they decided to actually give those retards real grievances and made their shit sound more reasonable.
Stormfront was a tiny, isolated forum of racists who would be told to go back if they ever leaked out and started spamming their schizo nonsense elsewhere on the internet. InfoWars was a laughing stock that was only carried on rural radio stations run by paranoid people.

These things were obscure and massively disliked niches. Compromising on core principles of this country and trying to extirpate them despite the fact that they were mostly irrelevant pariahs, and catching some much more reasonable people in the crossfire in the process is what made radicals of people. It made people start saying "Man, I could be next." "Shit, are these the only people I have on my side?" "Huh, maybe they have a point." Then finally, "Fuck it, I don't care. One side offers me no dignity or respect, and the other is promising solutions to problems instead of kicking the can down the road."

That's how the Overton window shifts, on both sides. It's where both the Neo-Nazis and New Communists come from.

There's nothing you can do with Crazy except let it make a fool of itself in the marketplace of ideas. Trying to root it out only ever makes it stronger, because it relies on a persecution narrative. If that persecution narrative has any weight of truth behind it at all, it starts to work.

That's why censorship is bad. Radicalism NEEDS censorship to thrive. Without censorship, it looks as unreasonable as it really is and it always hangs itself in the end as a result.

>>718816208
Given he's the one who installed project 2025 into power, any rational person will be dubious that his executive order actually comes to pass given there's a 6 month leeway period. And even if it does, project 2025 is still in power so you're trying to claim putting a band-aid on a massive wound will fix it.

>>718816616
You realize what that actually meant was any pornography that didn't have the full IDs of everyone involved submitted to the porn sharing site, right?

>>718816745
>First off it was /r9k/ that opened the flood gates to reddit
Nah, fuck off retard.
/v/ LOVED reddit, fuck, every other picture from the gamergate era was about how "Reddit is on our side bros! We're brothers in arms! They should flood our fucking site because they all got banned!!"
God, fucking "/r9k/ opened the flood gates to reddit" may as well say /x/ and /b/ did that too for how relevant what you're describing even is.
And guess what- /pol/ in 2016 was /v/'s fault. /v/ changed /pol/, not the other way around newfag.

>>718816929
>/v/ loved reddit
Yet it was /pol/ that welcome them with open arms during the election and continues to do so to the point /pol/ is the gateway board because you keep accepting more redditors.
Again, /pol/ has only themselves to blame and are rightfully blamed for the current condition of the site.

>Oh nice a thread shitting on lolcowlizers
>Actually its just leftypol having another meltdown cause all their orange man fanfiction fell apart today
And its almost at bump limit damn.

>>718817009
>Yet it was /pol/ that welcome them with open arms during the election
That was AFTER /v/ infected the board and made it all about its retarded culture war shit you retard.
Again, it's /v/. You're some deranged newfag trying to teach a history taught to you by someone who only wants to feel like they're on the good team, and not on the containment board for retards that ruined the site.

>>718817104
Incorrect, /pol/ opened the door to reddit while /v/ just fucked off to another site entirely. Meanwhile you're still harboring redditors and shitting up the rest of the site.
The fact you're scapegoating everyone else is par for the course.

>>718817191
>Incorrect, /pol/ opened the door to reddit while /v/ just fucked off to another site entirely.
The only people on 8ch were retards who couldn't evade, retard.
/v/ opened the floodgates, let them all in, got their threads moved to /pol/, and completely altered the nature of the board.

>>718816820
The dirty secret of why 4chan was so successful under moot early on and why it's a shitshow under rapeape is the fact that moot had no problem censoring stuff when it got cancerous. Some meme being overused and overstaying its welcome to the point it's not funny? word filtered. We still can't get repeating digits on /v/ because of how out of control it was before moot just outright removed them to solve it. Under rapeape, every thread would be check'em and checked to be derailed. And it would be used almost entirely on the few good threads we have as well, so don't try to pretend it would be used to fight cancer.

>>718811013
Oh thanks a bunch for the link anon, will look over it for sure.
Frankly I prefer the old sprite art anywho for the games that had it, and think the low-poly models look better at the 3DS's resolution, so I totally don't mind playing the original DS/3DS releases over the Apollo Trilogy rerelease.
Assuming by you not commenting on it that you don't know about the Investigations Collection lol, no problem; thanks anyway!

>>718799654
>Which shows a high degree of contempt for the doctor.
bro it's a tsukkomi line

japs deserved to be censored
they can make good stories but can't stop themselves from adding retarded shit for no reason

>>718817267
That's most people because they got sick of fighting the mods, so the again that proves /pol/ opened the floodgates to reddit with the election and the fact you're trying to pretend it altered anything is comical. /pol/ took the same exact path as /n/ and /news/ of coming stormfront lite only moot didn't have the brains nuke you again so we got to see how you evolved further into a shithole while inviting every redditor her to shit up the rest of the site.
Take responsibility for the fact you're to blame, you won't but no one with a brain will actually believe you given it's /pol/ shitting up every board and we won't have any peace until you're nuked.

>>718817474
>uh-uh doesn't count!
Riveting.
There's a reason the board moot hated most was /v/. Retards claim it was /pol/, but he loved that board simply because he could fuck with it constantly and wouldn't need an excuse, it having IDs is still a relic of moot messing with it all the time.
But he detested /v/ because you retards easily fall for mob mentality and following the crowd, getting easily led along by a single group and fucking up everything for everyone else. That's the exact mindset that caused /pol/ to turn into /v2/: Politics Edition. /pol/ from 2015 onwards is quite literally an unrecognizable board and that is entirely /v/'s fault.

>>718812639
so incest is ok, but calling someone a slut is no good?

>>718791698
cuckold hand typed your post

>>718817438
Yeah they're already add this lol random humor. Don't they understand subtly?

>>718817305
The problem is that no one obsessed with that shit would take the hint. "Nubs" (Palindromic sequences in the last digits of your post number) would have been forced instead. Word filters would be subverted with alternate characters, or some new intentionally even more obnoxious terminology would take its place. If some image fad got too out of hand, and they started filtering that, it would turn into the shit the Dick Pic Blackmail VPN system does. Where they'd post the exact same thing over and over again, changing whatever they needed to to evade the filter.

The people have changed. You can't just filter words or make quick fixes like that anymore. Because those retards don't give up. They take it as a challenge and a moral imperative to spite the administration for trying to keep things in order.

>/v/ hates japanese writing
>but also hates when it gets altered

>>718817635
>He loved /pol/ the most
Now this is next level delusion, moot's favorite board was /sp/ because he enjoyed how /sp/artans would not put with the mods trying to crack down on board culture. He absolutely despised /pol/ because the cancer you all bring, but felt he had no choice but to keep it as a containment board.
Once again that was his biggest fuck up because you kept becoming more of a shitshow infecting every other board with your culture warring and shilling for politics. Maybe if moot was still around he'd put the foot down and nuke you like you deserve, but we have to deal with you and your reddit hoards. And it's entirely your fault.

>>718817635
>and that is entirely /v/'s fault
You mean the mods' fault for funneling /v/irgins to /pol/ instead of keeping a single containment thread on /v/.

>>718817871
>>He loved /pol/ the most
Never stated.
>moot's favorite board was /sp/ because he enjoyed how /sp/artans would not put with the mods trying to crack down on board culture
8 pages.
>He absolutely despised /pol/ because the cancer you all bring, but felt he had no choice but to keep it as a containment board.
You're talking about /v/ currently. That's /v/. He didn't have "no choice but to keep it", he literally had removed it and nothing had happened in the time of its removal.
>Maybe if moot was still around he'd put the foot down and nuke you like you deserve
Maybe you should remember that moot left because of /v/.

>>718815980
>how quickly would this board die
>>718816506
the irony considering what anon said earlier is true
these threads are a result of tourist trannies crying about gg discussion on /v/ 10+ years ago and having them be deleted or moved to /pol/ when /pol/ never talked about it until that started happening
any other revisionism you'd like to share with the class?

>>718817756
They'd absolutely would be given people still spam pepe and wojak and delusionally think they're site culture even though they've both been total cancer for over decade.
The smart thing moot did was shake things up to stop shit from stagnating. Something got word filtered? It's a challenge to get around it now.It's the same thing, but at least it forces people to change up how they do it.

That's never the case now which is a big reason things are shit.

>>718816830
you realize that's just a long winded way of saying I'm right, right?
how does your dumb, brown ass think age verification works?
how do you think people making porn verify the age of the actors/actresses?
why is this somehow a bad thing to ask sites, literally selling said porn, to verify? and I expect an answer that isn't yet another deflection or concern trolling about the slippery slope you niggerfaggots never gave a shit about up until orange pedo was president again

>>718818163
>Porn censorship GOOD
>b-but not my video games!
You're gonna die

>>718817967
>Saying he loved /pol/
LOL he hated yo guys.
>Can't even refute he loved /sp/ more than you.
>Actually claiming he would delete /v/ and not /pol/ when he deleted /pol/ lite 2 times before.
>Ignoring the fact that /pol/ is the gateway board now because you have so many redditors flooding it and shitting up the rest of the site.
This is all on you, but you'll never take responsibility.
Also he left because he couldn't take the financial hits from glownig ops like the flappinging. You'd know that if you were actually here, but you weren't.

>>718817980
>>how quickly would this board die
I think the board would be fine if slower.

>>718818221
You looped it back the games and it only took the bump limit. Round of applause.

>>718791591 (OP)
Killing isn't enough, people die all the time and no one notices and it doesn't change anything. What we need is a symbol, something that can't go unnoticed or forgotten. We need localizers tortured in the public square daily.

>>718818302
You're speaking to a painfully autistic goblin, pay him no mind.

>>718818302
>LOL he hated yo guys.
Like I said, he loved /pol/ because he could openly and freely fuck with it without major backlash.
>>Can't even refute he loved /sp/ more than you.
I did, actually. You just couldn't tell because you're new.
>Also he left because he couldn't take the financial hits from glownig ops like the flappinging.
He had stated months prior to leaving that the financial hit was nothing to actually worry about in regards to the site.
What made him leave was /v/. He got stalked, harassed, humiliated, and dragged through the mud due to gamergate, and all attempts to control it blew up in his face, and it all tied into 8ch, which itself was a reminder of the last incident that blew up in his face, which is when he was wanting to shut down /r9k/.

>>718818221
again, retardbrown, asking pornhub to make sure they're not selling child porn =/= censorship
literally every other porn company verifies the age of their actors, why is pornhub immune to that?
>wahhh b-because /pol/ and red states like texas uguuuu~~
not an answer, niggerfaggot
and yes, I want total trannylator wokealizer death along with their entire bloodlines, and for retarded Jap companies that enable them to bite the dust, how could you tell?

>>718818542
you're mexican

>>718818406
Thought this was going in the direction of a vigilante. A mysterious fan translator that fixes translations and exposes errors. Not public execution.

>>718818541
>Like I said, he loved /pol/ because he could openly and freely fuck with it without major backlash.
So he loved the fact you were total cucks? What an odd excuse.
Also you didn't because you got rhythmically slapped.
Also wild fan fics, but it was /pol/, unless you remember his attempt to purge you by removing both catcha and cooldown to make board unusable. Should have kept that as permanent fixture to get rid of you cancer.

>>718818603
>no u
concession accepted, trannybrowntourist

I don't get how MLP can be fucking contained but /pol/ gets free reign over the site.

>>718819441
It's amazing how /v/tards will do this song and dance of "Hmmm, how does /pol/ do it?" and constantly deny how it's their fault even though, seemingly, the only boards suffering a /pol/ invasion are ones that they occupy.
Almost like this is the /v/ermin's innate behavior.

>>718819441
the first step is realizing you need to take your medication because /v/, let alone 4chan, was never your leftist, tranny, brown utopia and that shitting on corpo pushed wokeniggery was always in vogue here
sorry you had to hear it here first
you will never fit in

>>718813330
>It'd be a pretty big issue if you were releasing a game for children
>game for children
>is full of murder and assault by the very nature of the game.
What game for children is full of murder and assault?

>>718819714
The difference is moot and /b/ era's racism was cheeky and fun.
Rapeape and /pol/ era's racism is cruel and tragic.
Also you're forgetting the big thing 4chan was always contrarian, the only difference now is the people in power are doing everything they can to cling to it here.

>>718817039
It's not, it's also lolcowlizersimps having a meltdown that the Trails in the Sky remake DElocalized the new script so it's closer to the original. That game being one of their favorites of "localizers are better than the OG writers and you can't do anything about it chuds, Estelle is ours" and then the remake removes all their MCU quip lines.

>>718820301
>noooo it was muh headcanon just for jokes, no one on old 4chan actually hated nigs and jews ;((((
nope, this is tourist revisionism at its peak
you nigger tourists have tried this time and again
the entire point was to be offensive
you lost shitskin troon
I win
thread closed

>>718820565
>/pol/ fan fiction
pathetic