Thread 718806213

I just want a MGS4 port. As a huge MGS autist I'm tired of being unable to play that because it's exclusive to dead consoles.

>>718806213 (OP)
what even needs to be added to the mgs games that the older games havent done already?

cobras prequel

>>718806213 (OP)
Whats the point?
Its soul is tied to Kojima. Nobody but him can replicate his own style. Its like trying to replicate another persons signature.

How do you even make MGS without Kojima? It's so much of his concentrated autism sold as a product

>>718806285
Just buy a PS3? You are a "huge" fan right?

>>718806213 (OP)
VR Training?

>>718806549
I refuse to fuel shitty business practices

>>718806213 (OP)
Shouldn't be an issue. He wasn't involved in every aspect of the games and actively got opposed by the rest of the devs. No need for his ego trips.

>>718806213 (OP)
probably another remake if this one does well

>>718806595
You're not a fan.

>>718806213 (OP)
Misleading headline. They only said they want new generations to "carry on the legacy." Does that imply more metal gear games? Yeah, more or less. But that headline make it sound like they straight up said they're going to make more.

>>718806213 (OP)
They'll probably remake the rest of the series, and the real test will be when they're making an entire new game and/or are remaking Metal Gear & Metal Gear 2. Other companies have done this too.

>>718806513
ghost babel

>>718806712
Yes I am, everyone IRL knows me as the MGS girl

>>718806915
formerly the MGS guy

they would never

>>718806213 (OP)
Remakes for the entire series coasting on the series' already established success until they make something original and misses the point (see: Metal Gear Survive).

>>718806213 (OP)
But how? It worked only because of hacky brain of Kojima who watched gazillion of movies and anime

>>718806213 (OP)
Sequel between 2 and 4 featuring Raiden and Snake

Liquid Snake game set in the middle east during the turn of the millennium.

Eventual reboot when you run out of room in the timeline, there isn't really much there now.

>>718806213 (OP)
>konami back in business ressucitating IPs
>Platinum back in business being outsourced by KTecmo to make Ninja Gaiden 4
>Platinum also outsourced to make Guy Savage segment for MGS delta

100% we are getting Metal Gear Rising 2 soon

>>718806601
He was clearly the most important part though. Without him most stories and games in the series are mediocre and forgettable. They should get the guy who did Rising. Only non-Kojima story and game that people actually care about.

>>718806513
Metal Gear Rising with Etsu Tamari

>>718807602
Nope, kojima is just the idea exec guy who assembled the team together.
MGS writers and artists did the hard work of making MGS.

>>718806601
Mgs works because of strange balance between serious, silly, sexy and grotesque. It can fall into boring political drama, ironic comedy when something moves on a millimeter

>>718807000
It's crazy how Debora Wilson is also in this game

>>718807751
Kojima was the main writer and designer and director of every game, the original creator and mastermind of the franchise. Hours of behind the scenes footage and countless interviews exist demonstrating how much work he does in all his games. Few other video game series are as closely associated with one person. It's delusional to suggest otherwise, pure contrarian hatred drives this narrative.

>>718808125
The wall comes to all

>>718806906
I know it's been said a million times, but remaking 3 instead of any of the overhead pov games first is going to piss me off until I die.

>>718808125
>>718808295
Blowing my fucking mind right now.

All new characters with little to no connection to previous games with complete freedom to do anything the developers wanted.

>>718807751
Bro Kojima directs his games in a very specific way and follows his same tropes through most of his games.
The other people here are right in that the guy who wrote Rising is the absolutely the right guy for the job.

>>718806213 (OP)
Something something Dr. Clark still being alive. Something something the Boss ai core from mgsV. Something something soft reboot sequel.

>>718806285
This. I just want Volume 2 of the collection with MGS4, MGAC!D 1-2, and Ghost Babble MGS:GBC. That's it.

Delta is whatever, I'm happy for Keknami, but I want the last of the series that wasn't ported to Steam already.

>>718806906
Overseen by Kojimbo. Same as any other title, yes, even Platinum's.

>>718806513
MGS OPS

>>718806513
There were plenty of Metal Gear games released without Kojima directing or writing them. Series veterans like Korekado and Okamura still work at Konami as well.

>>718807000
Raging Raven is so fucking sexy bros

>>718808919
See: >>718808810
For better or worse, Kojima was tied to the series. You can't do it without him, as proven by Survive.

>>718806549
you're a huge fan of video games, but you don't own an N-gage???????

>>718806213 (OP)
give me volume 2 with piss walker and 4 already konami you cunts

>>718806213 (OP)
4 and 5 proved Kojima should be kept away from MGS from now on

>>718806213 (OP)
Kojima said he always wanted younger devs to take over developing MGS games, but somehow I don't think he is going to appreciate this.

>>718807000
Laughing Octopus was so hot in this

>>718808125
>>718808295
She's just the voice. Not the model. Supposedly in later printings, they changed voice actresses for the fight, so she was only temporary/early runs.

Which is funny as Phil Lamar (her MadTV coworker) is Vamp.

>>718808810
>yes, even Platinum's.
I wouldn't be so sure.
If I recall correctly Kojima wanted to work on something else, the next game was going to be a spin-off with Raiden, this spin-off was set before the events of MGS4, Kojima doesn't want to direct the game, without his guidance, the team does not have a head or direction, the team also does not have experience with that type of game, the project stalls, Konami decides to continue the game but now under the direction of Platinum Games.

>>718809091
He tried to let them a few times and they bumbled and begged him to come back. It's why they had to get Platinum to save Rising.

>>718806213 (OP)
>les gaem develepres terribles

>>718806330
There's quite a bit left to discover, like the missing link between PW and MG1 that MGSV was supposed to be and that Kojitard lied about.

>>718807496
Platinum is clearly under some NDA but they are already working on it.
Konami already outsourced Silent hill to 3rd party companies. It only makes sense they do the same with Metal Gear

>>718809514
I don't even know what that is supposed to be. Just him doing the exact same thing as PW but edgier. Build up mother base again but with more war crimes than before. It's no wonder he tried some sort of twist instead.

>>718808313>
>any of the overhead pov games
Even if they'd preserved the game design it would have been too much work. I don't think Delta looks bad, but it's not hard to imagine MGS3 with UE5-ified graphics, and even by that standard Delta isn't exactly impressive.

The best time to have remade the MSX gamsx was 20 years ago as a GBA/DS/PSP game or something as a smaller budget project.

They inject Solid Snake with youth serum and he has to infiltrate another nuclear testing site with a golden metal gear and two cyborg ninjas (red and blue).

>>718806595
your buying it from ebay 2nd hand what the fuck are you on about your not paying the man you stupid fucking nigger

MGS0 with The Boss is inevitable

>>718809729
There wasn't much of a gap between PW and MG1 to begin with. The biggest loose end that PW introduces is Miller, but even MGSV doesn't handle that very well.

>>718807000
gets remade
changes the models
they not as good looking
not naked like how kojima wanted them

>>718809792
they inject snake with too much youth serum and he has to go have japanese highschool hijinks

>>718809235
Oh that is interesting. Thanks anon

>>718809954
the youth serum does turn him young but there's some side effect solid snake is now a girl and johnny is trying to fuck him/her on the dl

This remake is the perfect opportunity to pretend that the rest of the big boss games didn't happen and just make a new 5 that is a direct sequel to 4.

>>718809905
Where we finally meet The Boss' mentor:
The Chief.

>>718806213 (OP)
I predict it will be better than ever before since Kojima won't be there to take a fat Hollywood shit on it. Hopefully it makes him seethe and hopefully all of Japan learns to never ever let another Kojima happen ever again. Game directors should not be treated like geniuses or pseudo-celebrities.

>>718806285
I just want Aqua to fart on my face. Is that much to ask?

>>718806330
character creation

>>718806330
in terms of gameplay and stealth, verticality.

it would be interesting if they can actually implement the Gekkos for a full game instead of small segments of Act 1,2,4 and 5.

the Gekkos were a very neat but underimplemented. if you play the opening part of Act 1 with the Gekkos and waited until they killed everyone, it is hard hiding from them, it was very interesting to hide from an enemy that can outrun you. it can be an interesting game built around that

also it would be interesting to try again Kojima's idea of sneaking through active battlefield and can join any faction fighting on the battlefield (scrapped to fighting only for the militia in MGS4)

>>718806213 (OP)
How bout they get on their knees, and bet Kojima Productions to make an entry for them? Otherwise, just go the Capcom route and Remake 1-4 in the style of the RE remakes.

>Big Boss is dead
>Snake is dead
>All the characters moved on after 4 except Raiden
What could they possibly do? A reboot?

>>718810553
Somehow... everyone is back

>>718806213 (OP)
Ideas for new Metal Gear games
>a game starring The Boss and her exploits during WW2, maybe ending with her meeting John aka Naked Snake
>a game about solid snake's experiences during the gulf war, maybe cut to liquid's perspective too since he was there as well
>a game showing what ocelot and big boss were doing during and after the events of the phantom pain
>a title taking place between MGS1 and MGS2 or between 2 and 4 about snake's and otacon's organization philanthropy taking down metal gears

>>718810641
>>a title taking place between MGS1 and MGS2 or between 2
This already exists for nokia ngage

>>718810641
I dont know if adding games between games really adds anything to the universe of MG. Especially if these new metal gears have metal gears in them that are somehow more powerful than later ones for some reason.

>>718810553
MGS 4 prequel where Raiden goes around battlefields and doing shit and the ending is the raiding a Patriots training facility to rescuing Sunny mission

>>718810734
They should remake that one

>>718810768
Nah. I think they need a new story not tied to the rest of the series. Don't muddy the story more than it already is.

>>718806330
New Metal Gear Rising game or Solid that tells the story of Raiden between 2 and 4

>>718810750
I would consider them side stories that help fill gaps in timeline. Not critical to the overall narrative. Like what the Resident Evil series does occasionally.

Metal Gear Turgid

>New Metal Gear model, Metal Gear SEX, stolen by naked chicks from the feminist activist group, Collective Trout (the name signifies their vag scent)
>You are Nekkid Nostepon Snek, your job is to defeat the feminist terrorists by sexing them in boss fights
>As the story unfolds you discover that actually, the Jews did it
>Travel to Israel to fight the Moshiach, Judah Goldsteinbergowitz
>His diabolical plan involves using MG-SEX to launch canisters of a special gas into every country in the world that will make women addicted to BBC
>He's been having his feminist terrorists flood every country with black dildos and getting total control of the dildo supply so he will control the world
>You ruin his plan by having the bosses convert to your side, team up with you to take down his Metal Gear and force him to suck black cock
>Post-credits scene shows that Judah Goldsteinbergowitz was actually acting on the orders of the US President

>>718810459
I figured verticality was part of what they were going for with original Metal Gear Rising. Part of being a ninja hunter and all with Raiden's super strength and agility.

>>718810845
it is a canon event though, Raiden went around doing shit and rescued sunny and gave her to Snake and Otacon but was shot and dead by Patriots and Snake and Otacon has to leave him behind. Raiden was revived as a Cyborg Ninja but escaped and seeked help from Dr. Madnar's daughter and then silently helps Snake behind the scenes until MGS4 where he started to participate acttively

Doesn't really matter, games take so fucking long to make now that we'll only be on MGS7 by the time I die of old age

>>718806213 (OP)
Konami doing something Nintendo has no balls to do

>>718811089
I know, but it's better to not know how it happened.

>Metal Gear Rising Zero
>play as Gray Fox escaping the Patriots after being ninjafied
>final boss is Para-Medic

>>718811228
Hopefully it plays closer to what they had in mind with MGS Rising

>>718810143
you're welcome

>>718810553
Make a new Snake?

Isn't this what Kojima was trying to do since metal gear 2 they failed at it everytime and ended up asking his help anyways?

>>718811373
Haha you actually believed me? I was just kidding, it wasn't interesting at all

>>718809954
How about this except unironically? Make it a Persona-like where you investigate the intrigue going on at the school and discover that the school is a front for the Patriots. You can use this to do some hard-hitting commentary about how schools are just indoctrination camps. You'd have plenty of combat, from CQC fights against bullies to somebody trying to shoot up the school.

>>718811451
It's finally time for Gas Snake to take center stage...

Is totally possible to squeeze one more game from the point of big boss building his army instead of "le venom snake" the real problem is the story

Theyre gonna use AI to mimick Kojima's writing style for future releases

>>718806213 (OP)
CAN WE MAKE NEW THINGS??????

Not everything needs to be James Bond and continue for 50 years after the author died.

>>718811520
sounds like it would work better a little tongue in cheek, park persona part bully part j<->m

>>718806513
Anybody could have come up with the dogshit plot of mgs5

>>718811451
In the Acid games there was a Solid Snake clone I think. They could do it.

>>718806213 (OP)
You can't train an ideas man, you have to be born a fagget.

>>718806213 (OP)
no more big boss games for the love of god

wait, I thought Hedio was the producer and not a dev? Just the ideas guy?

>>718806213 (OP)
Metal Gear Survive 2

>>718811826
The plot MGS5 is good. It's the way it's told to you that stinks.

DESU they should just remake MGS V, add all the cut content and expand the game maybe even a third area

They should focus on Gaiden games centered around new retconned characters in various time periods. Call them MGS:SIDE OPS and go wild.

Kojima just steals everything from old movies, you just need to reference these things in the game and copy the camera direction and aesthetics of those films.

This is why you can't train an ideas man, they just know what works.

Also Metal Gear game isn't complete with supernatural themes and bisexual, sexualized men and women, but mostly focus on the men.

Imagine if they do a very "making fun of game revivals" plot just to try to sound like Kojima

You also need a muse and an artist who can bring your ideas man's work to life, you can't train up a Yoji Shinkawa aka Kojima's life long boyfriend. If the director doesn't have gay sex with the artist how can they create videogames?

remake of mg 1+2
mgs: rising
another spinoff like the handheld consoles

>>718806213 (OP)
Remakes of the MSX games might be cool. It will never happen though.

Piss Walker remake that's actually worth playing, maybe a 4 remake with more gameplay sections.

why do you need some old guy to keep a white sci-fi gimmick running? Look at star wars.

>>718809236
i'm pretty sure mgr:r takes place after 4

>>718812520
All I would want for 4 would be some sort of mission pack expansion added. Like VR mission or Snake Tales, add a bunch of extra levels to do in the eventual modern port, whenever the fuck that comes out. 2035 I guess.

>>718806213 (OP)
Just give me a mgsv clone with more maps and another throw away story/villian and I will purchase your game.

>>718806213 (OP)
this just means more remakes. Otherwise they would have to retcon the whole thing.

>>718812821
>Otherwise they would have to retcon the whole thing.
They can retcon the "everyone was actually patriots this whole time" retcon.

>>718809771
I wouldn't want them to remain top-down perspective, room by room scrollers. I'd want them to be reworked altogether into modern 3d games that look and play like metal gear solid games. Instead we're getting a shot-for-shot remake of a game that doesn't look bad, doesn't require any imagination on the part of the player to perceive the characters and actions as being realistically depicted.

Just give me MGS4 PC port and Konami can fuck off from this series

>>718806330
multi-million dollar character reveals
assessories
candy crush gacha

>>718806213 (OP)
Probably more remakes and repacks. Also an online mobile-friendly MGS game with gacha elements. As an aside, they're probably getting their employees more experienced with using UE5.

>>718809648
Yeah this is probably the biggest hint that they're working on Rising 2

>>718806285
Can't you just emulate it?

>>718806285
>As a huge MGS autist
>not owning a PS3

Casual detected.

Frankly I'm surprised Metal Gear, the shitty PC/NES game, hasn't gotten a remake with 8000 different unnecessary mechanics.

>>718813134
Can PS3 games still be downloaded or is all online support yanked?

>>718809059
Prior to like last year, being a "huge fan of MGS" and not owning a PS3 was an innately contradictory statement, as the PS3 was the only console with access to the entire series.
For a time, this is what the breakdown looked like for English players:
>Metal Gear
PS2 (Subsistence Disc 2)
PS3 (HDC)
>Metal Gear 2
PS2 (Subsistence Disc 2)
PS3 (HDC)
>Metal Gear Solid
PSX (2 Disc Title, $30~)
PS3 (PSN, $5)
PS3 (Legacy Collection)
PC (Broken as shit PC port THAT CAN BE PATCHED)
>Metal Gear Solid 2
PS2 (Substance for complete version)
PS3 (HDC)
PC (Broken as shit PC port)
>Metal Gear Solid 3
PS2 (Subsistance for complete version)
PS3 (HDC)
>Metal Gear Solid 4
PS3
>Peace Walker
PSP (Single Version, Transfers to PS3)
PS3 (HDC, Transfers to PSP)
>Metal Gear Solid V
On everything

Like, you see the deal here right? You see the one console that had EVERY game right?

>>718809514
>like the missing link between PW and MG1 that MGSV was supposed to be and that Kojitard lied about.
Because there is no "missing link".
Everything is explained with MGS3's ending. All that PW and V add is further characterization showing "Yeah, Big Boss went down a bad path".

There is no "next thing" for MGS. It ended five separate times. Every new thing since MGS2 has felt hackneyed and tired.

>>718806595
a hacked ps3 slim is literally less than $50 online

>>718810553
Time for George to take up the mantle

I just want a remake of MG1 and 2

>>718806213 (OP)
MGS was running on fumes even when Kojima was there lol. PW and V didn't actually add much.

>>718806213 (OP)
The dude pioneered auteurship in video games just by plastering his name all over them, for better or for worse. Either way it's just not the same without being "A Hideo Kojima Game."

>>718806330
I'd like to see what happens after Raiden takes down Armstrong. The MGS world seems to be a perpetual shit hole where mercs somehow control most countries to the point second world countries are something out of Mad Max.

>>718808205
>Kojima was the main writer and designer and director of every game
Yeah and the main story is always a complete shitshow with the exception of MGS3, which Kojima intentionally simplified as a homage to James Bond. All of the good parts, ie. the codec conversations, were written by Fukushima. Just get that guy back and have him do codecs again.

>>718810553
Ummm actually liquids arm was real liquid and it somehow it survived and got etched on some dwarf gekko and its now an AI so now liquid lives on and solid snake must now go on a new mission to track down this dwarf Gekko who is raising a supper army of cyborg soldiers called the Inner Heaven

>>718806213 (OP)
I don't know and I don't care

For me, Metal Gear ended at 4. There wasn't any reason to continue after that, and there still isn't.

>>718807000
Does anyone have a copy of that terrible interview that Kojima did describing these girls? That video I am 99% certain is the reason you can't find any video of him speaking English, his accent is super thick, and he can't describe anything to save his life, not only that but it was super embarrassing for him. I'm surprised no one ever posts it in every Kojima thread, it is PEAK shitposting material for whoever finds it.

>>718818260
you could probably hunt it down on the internet archive if it was with one of the major outlets

>>718818260
This one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XQ8TQquuHM

>>718810272
"Let me cook."

>>718806285
>a MGS4
it's an MGS4

>>718810272
imagine kojima doing a commentary on us-indian relations

>>718818702
>an Metal

>>718818602
It's that one, but it showed his face. When he does the WUH!? WAMAN IN AN NGS? He makes an exaggerated face to the audience. But yeah I think is the last time he ever talked without an interpreter because of how stupid he sounds.

>>718806213 (OP)
Even if kojima was making it I'm just not interested. The series has run its course.

>>718818740
retard

>>718818740
This is why I love /v/

>>718813645
Not everyone wants to spend money on old consoles you fucking autist.

>>718806213 (OP)
more remakes
they can't do it without Godjima

>>718806285
FPBP.

I don't care what Keknami does with the series past Kojimbo ports because only the Kojimbo entries matter.

>>718806330
more intersectional characters of course

>>718818798
>That video I am 99% certain is the reason you can't find any video of him speaking English
I distinctly remember him trying to speak english during one of the VGAs and the crowd cheering him on, but he still failed after like 5 minutes lol

>>718806285
It emulates perfectly fine now Aquaposter

>>718818738
Codetalker? He had a lot of stuff to say about the US

>>718819103
oh yeah that's right, i'm retarded

>>718813194
The original Metal Gear is pretty good. Its only real issue is some of the arcane shit you have to do to progress.

>>718806213 (OP)
I guess remaking older titles until they run out of Kojima stuff. Maybe the PSP ones, or again the first Solid. I don't think they can recreate the Kojima weirdness to create new titles or revamp the IP. Just ride the nostalgia train for some profits.

>>718813645
Kids will never understand anon, good on you for trying but they don't want to own old things. They want to rent games from Steam. Eventually they will get their MGS4 with all the soul ripped out. I remember how hopeful 4 was for the PS3 at the time. Shame it didn't work out.

>>718812962
I'd rather had remakes that bumped up the sprite detail and toughened up the enemies. A version of MG2 tweaked to play more like Ghost Babel is my dream MG game.

>>718812632
Originally MGR was supposed to be a prequel set between MGS2 and MGS4. After the game was handled to Platinum, the concept of prequel was scrapped, changing the game to be set after MGS4

>>718818856
>Not everyone wants to spend money on old consoles you fucking autist.
Actually learn to read retard.
Before the Master Collection, the PS3 was the ONLY console that had all the games. It still is really, but people aren't missing out on MGS1-3 so much as they are MGS4 and PW.

>>718819359
I think you can make Metal Gear without Kojima. MGR had minimal involvement from him and felt exactly like a Kojima MGS, in some ways even better.

>>718806478
AC!D, Ghost Babel and Portable Ops say otherwise.

>>718819442
>what is emulation
Or are you one of those original hardware only spergs?

>>718819816
Oh you're retarded, alright.
Emulation is unspoken. If you have the option, you wouldn't be wondering what platforms have the games.
Dumbass.

>>718819867
>Emulation is unspoken
What the fuck you talking about you schizo retard?

>>718806330
A new game in the same universe. Leave the old characters behind and come up with new ones, but preserve the whole "historical/near future with nuclear mechas and cyborgs" setting. And stealth/action gameplay. The game and world are great but that doesn't mean everything has to be a sequel or retread of 20-30 year old shit.
if snake absolutely has to be kept then just make him "neo snake" or some shit and have him be a different person. He's just a ripoff of the guy from escape from new york anyway.

>>718820097
Oh, you don't know English either.
It's implicit in the concept. I don't need to mention emulation because I'd just be adding "emulation" to everything in the list. Everyone knows that. The only people who would need reminders are people for whom emulation isn't an option.
Fucking retard.

>>718819596
PO is pretty terrible.

>>718813645
>>718819442
You could play most of the series through emulation to the Master Collection coming out.

>>718820508
See >>718820152

>>718820560
>>718820508

MG1+2 remakes would be cool

>>718806213 (OP)
What a dumb way to describe interns or entry-level (nepotism) hires.

>>718820684
Hey retard, the point is, again, nobody asking the question of "where to play the games" would need emulation pointed out to them.
This is why nobody likes you. You're annoying and retarded.

Snake wakes up in an isekai world and has to stop Magic Gears from launching weapons into the real world.

>>718820103
That would require people who give a fuck and have talent. Which in an environment like the modern game industry and mainly Konami is not likely to be produced anymore. A new MGS with only the name, has big shoes to fill for fans who inevitably will have a negative bias towards it and executives with unreasonable sales expectations. None with vision is going to risk their career over it, and even less with Konami considering how they treated Kojima.

Well duh. They weren't doing the most faithful remake in history for shits and giggles, they were getting their sea legs by following a template very carefully. About the last thing I expect from them next time around is Metal Gear Solid 6. Per the Resi remakes (if nothing else), there's obviously a big giant audience that is interested in seeing fresh takes on classic games, especially a big portion of the audience who is (for whatever reason) intimidated out of playing games that are actually old. Which is especially funny to me in the context of MGS3, because surely, there are millions of people who are like "finally I can get into this series now" and will be doing so with a game that is nearly EXACTLY the same as its 20 year old counterpart, sans a very small suite of QOL changes. One thing I am wondering about Delta--I saw that there's a codec menu that can be brought up in-game now. Does that codec calls can happen while playing? Because I love that as an idea. I want to experience all of the codec silliness but I don't have the patience anymore to completely freeze the experience to do it still, for the most part.

As for what's next: Master Collection Vol 2 in 2026 or maybe early 2027. The port work on MGS4 is likely already going on but it's not going to be nearly as easy as clumsily shitting out the HD ports of the previous entries that already existed, and a poorly emulated version of MGS1. I think the next "new" entry though will most likely be MGS1, because I think the team will still be too green around the gills to do MG or MG2. And modernizing Metal Gear Solid 1 should be done thoughtfully this time, which will mean altering some aspects about how the game works, and hopefully with more tact and common sense applied than in Twin Snakes. It'll certainly be more of a production though--unless they're using the Peter Jackson AI tools they won't be able to salvage that legacy VO, and using the Twin Snakes re-recordings would be a bad mistake.

>>718806213 (OP)
Ew. We already explored every inch of the story and then some. Some things are better left as a complete collection.

>>718809514
No, fuck off. Just give snake random missions to go on with their own isolated stories and villains. He’s a fucking secret agent, surely he’s done enough missions in his time where you can just send him on random missions.

>>718806285
MGS4 dearly needs a remake of some sort. It has some awesome fucking mechanics but the entire game is basically just a tech demo for the S3. You never really get to experiment with the mechanics before it’s all over. What a shame.

>>718808919
>still work at Konami as well.
I'm going to guess they are lightbulb changers or people greeter or whatever humilliating shit konami did to their game devs.

>>718821376
Thats what MGO2 was for.

>>718809729
Creation of Outer Heaven, Gray Fox, the reason why he created Fox Hound, and him being cool with training child soldiers.

>>718807496
>>718809648
After this Guy Savage news, we have never been closer to a new Metal Gear Rising. Delta is probably gonna sell well, Revengeance is a cult classic and everyone loves it, people are getting critical Souls slop fatigue and there seems to be a resurgence of classic hack n' slash action (ninja gaiden 4) so there's an appetite for it. You can set the game 10-15 years after Revengeance as the Metal Gear future seems to be endless PMC conflict, have a new team of psychos for Raiden to brutalize, there is not really a need for major improvements in combat mechanics, just add variety and weapons. Bring back all the Maverick folks. Boris, Doktor, Kevin, Courtney + Blade Wolf and adult hot Sunny. Just call the same director and writer of the first game and hope wokism shit doesn't interfere in any way, shape or form and we're golden. You can even get flashback missions where Raiden remembers when he turned into a cyborg and rescued Sunny so you make everyone happy.
Metal Gear 0 (Cobra Unit/WW2) is a concept that only Kojima could and should handle to make it right and the guy's just not coming back, so hopefully they don't bother with that shit.

>>718821206
>As for what's next: Master Collection Vol 2 in 2026 or maybe early 2027. The port work on MGS4 is likely already going on but it's not going to be nearly as easy as clumsily shitting out the HD ports of the previous entries that already existed, and a poorly emulated version of MGS1.
the head producer guy who does interviews was doing a QA and was asked about MC2 and he basically said as much, they were doing it but taking their time with it to avoid the backlash MC1 got.

Dark horse candidate is that they remake Peace Walker. Which you would think: Well they're going to re-release that game soon though anyway. But that didn't stop them with MGS3. Peace Walker is the only post-Solid game that has a lot to gain from a fancy fresh new take. Its handheld roots show through in some really ugly ways.

Funny to think back about how people were (And still are) so miffed about what V ended up being. Maybe people wouldn't cop to it now but most people did not realize that Portable Ops and Peace Walker so clearly marked the direction the series would culminate in.

>>718820772
You're retarded and gay.

>"Metal Gear Zero"
>Build hype for it being a The Boss prequel
>Not-E3 2029
>stage darkens
>Snake Eater theme starts playing
>before the lyrics start, it gives way to Jpop music as the screens turn a vibrant blue and green
>METARU GYARU?
>Solid Snake lives... in another world!?
>FIRST KISS KARA HAJIMARU
>Trapped in another world as a young man, Snake must befriend the students of this academy, all while stopping the evil Kingdom's attempts to utilize the new... METAL GEAR ZERO
It's an RTS btw.

>>718821507
Yeah I saw that sometime ago, I wonder if it'll be a super substantial release and include stuff like ACID 1 and 2 or if they'll part it out and do a third volume. The idea of re-releasing V and GZ though seems silly--that's still a modern game, even though it's 10 years old. I'd even be curious to see a port of that mobile phone game, not the iOS shooting gallery for 4 but the other one. Don't expect it though, just like I don't expect to see Ghost Babel again. For all of the sensible directions for them to go in, I wonder when the first surprise will be. I cannot believe how much Silent Hill shit is in the pipeline, you have to imagine that their plans for Metal Gear are maybe slightly more considered or careful but that they must have a lot of different plates spinning up in the background right now.

What I wonder, too, is that by the time Konami gets around to taking a big swing of their own with Metal Gear, how close they'll be cutting it to competing with whatever PHYSINT ends up being. That'll be a real showdown. Draw!

>>718821740
i wonder if they'll re-port Silent Hill. they were looking for devs to do it many years ago but ended up hiring the guys they were fielding for the port job to do The Short Message instead.

>>718821485
I don't think any of that is very interesting. Like what is there to say about Outer Heaven that wouldn't just be a retread of PW or MGSV, what is there to say about Gray Fox or Fox Hound even? Child soldiers is the only slightly compelling idea I guess but I don't know what you want out of that. I always saw his lapse in morality as a slow, natural process of decades of constant war. Like what would a story about that be and would it even be as good as what Metal Gear 2 says just on it's own, what would be the point.

>>718822369
I agree that attempt at trying to explain Outer Heaven was ruined by PW/TPP by dipping their toes in a similar concept but refusing to use Outer Heaven's name, it's still a hole in the plot and I hope there's a different approach to explaining this without being another "we have a big base on the sea and it's part of the gameplay!"
Gray Fox is definitely important explaining for BB's reasoning for accepting child soldiers, and Fox Hound is needed to explain why BB is using it to do a long term reverse-glowie tactic on US government, which is highly uncharacteristic for him as he's been nothing but a "leave me alone" guy instead of being scheme-y

I want a genuine Metal Gear Rising. The one that was supposed to be how Raiden saved Sunny and became a Cyborg.

>>718806330
coop and they should try to do a mix of different gameplays, you should be able to play as a normal soldier, sword fighter, mutant etc.

>>718822369
>Like what is there to say about Outer Heaven that wouldn't just be a retread of PW or MGSV
If anything it would be a step above PW and MGSV since what Big Boss starts to do no longer involves crawling around in a cardboard box. He stole all of the world's nukes, a chunk from Russia, conned CIA into letting him run an operation to capture himself.

Like say, it could be told from Solid Snake's POV and describe his early rookie years, and then culminate with an actual MG1 ending mission since let's be real remaking MG1 as-is would be stupid, but using them as inspiration to soft-retcon some things in a more dynamic game wouldn't be bad.

>>718810553
Clones and more unethical shit

>>718806213 (OP)
The fact that both Konami and Kojima aren't refusing to speak of each other anymore is suspicious.
Konami greenlit the sentiment "We'd love to work with Kojima-san again."
Kojima played coy with a scripted question in the last HideoTube video where he pretended to be caught off guard when he was asked if Physint was Metal Gear.

I think there's a pretty good chance Physint is a Metal Gear project, so Kojima can leave the series on good terms and make better use of Liquid like he always regretted not being able to, and Konami can finally reclaim some face from how poorly the split went in the first place, now that it turns out the strategy they tried to force on Kojima wasn't the right play.

>>718823213
I feel like right there you explained why he did Fox hound, to do reverse glowie tactics. We also already saw him become scheme-y in MGSV with the whole Venom Snake thing. I feel like he got tired of being played by Cipher and decided to start playing others. An he gave an insane reasoning for child soldiers in MG2 already, not sure how much you can add to that, showing him going increasingly crazy on screen I guess. That would probably have more emotional weight than a text box on an MSX game admittedly.
I feel like in an alternate timeline where PW and V, and even Portable Ops, don't exist there is a lot of room for a great game that gives the entire villainous decline of Big Boss through the 70s and 80s. But after those two filled up the timeline and shit it's hard for me to imagine what they can cram in there without it feeling superfluous or repetitive.

>>718806330
trump allegory
china politics
india/pakistan warzone

>>718823652
>now that it turns out the strategy they tried to force on Kojima wasn't the right play.
Konami have been doing alright without Kojima though.

>>718811145
Nintendo is doing this right now, the Splatoon team were all fresh faces, people are inheriting Zelda and Mario from Shiggy.

>>718823652
No, you lunatic.

>>718823310
sure buddy

>>718806213 (OP)
>Predictions for Metal Gear Solid going foward?
unrealslop with microtransactions

>>718823310
>game rankings
I miss it.

Reminder that this is what happens to Metal Gear without Kojimbo

>>718823652
I was always surprised he didn't just straight up bring Liquid back. He had the weird arm/ghost/hypnosis thing but I never really got why he didn't just have him be a cyborg or something, like Gray Fox, as he very clearly wanted to. I know he was supposed to fake his death in an early draft of 2.

Apart from the "teenager infatuated with hollywood" writing and selective attention to detail in random spots, they're generic third person stealth games, I don't see why someone else couldn't make a new one.

>>718823853
forgot pic

>>718823749
No they wouldn't. They tried to invest heavily in the gambling and mobile games divisions and would have put the Digital Entertainment business on permanent mobileslop/live service duty. Which Kojima wasn't happy with, and for good reason.
Those didn't pan out. The gambling didn't work out because Covid helped the boomers it didn't kill cure or moderate their pachislot addictions, The mobile stuff didn't work out because Konami were fucking late to it. And the Live Service strategy also didn't work out because their first foray into it was a tasteless asset flip of MGSV right after they were getting flack for the split in the first place.

>>718806213 (OP)
If they keep the series going as in make new Metal Gear Solid games instead of just remaking the old ones then I think that would be pretty neat. I never cared for Kojima's ego and that's despite being an MGS fan, he let me down with lame artsy shit in Death Stranding. I don't like anything else he put out under his name, but maybe he can salvage his reputation with Phsyint. They should use the Fox Engine to achieve it, and not Unreal Engine. Fuck Yong Yea and all of Kojima's obnoxious fanboys.

>>718823864
You can say a lot of things about Metal Gear and Kojima but I don't see how you can call them generic. Shit there aren't even many stealth games out there anymore, not like they making any new Syphon Filter games.

>>718823310
Fukushima wrote Freedom Wars is now working at a dev team called TVT with ex-Patapon guys.
I've played Freedom Wars before but from my experience with that game, I can safely say he probably wasn't some kind of "real genius" behind MGS.
It was a really mediocre game with a terrible ass story.

>>718824168
>Shit there aren't even many stealth games out there anymore,
There aren't. It's a dead genre outside of Hitman. Which is why I want MGS to come back and revive the genre. Inspire games like Splinter Cell to be made again. Only upcoming game I know about with an AA budget is Styx Blades of Greed.

How well did Konami handle Castlevania without Koji?
How well did Konami handle Silent Hill without Toyama or whoever you want from Team Silent?

>>718824284
IIRC, Fukushima also wrote the Ac!d games, and no one praises those as the highest level of writing in the series, despite being "Pure Fukushima without any Kojima influence pulling it down."

And, he only ever wrote the incidental Codec calls in 2 and 3 anyway. The ones you'd get if you made calls outside of major story events. That's it. He did the busywork. It wasn't bad by any means in either of those games, but everything that's beloved about MGS2 and 3 absolutely came from Kojima's own brain. That's just the truth, even if you think he's gotten too avant garde and pretentious for his own good ever since.

Metal Gear Solid without Kojima has the same chances of being a successful and well made game if it had Kojima on board. Because after Death Stranding like 90% of /v/ figured out he was hack with no bearing on making the past games great and he was carried by people in Konami's actual studio. I don't think he poached everyone into Kojima productions completely anyway. Otherwise Death Stranding may not have turned out as shit as it was. There was no one to stop Kojima and tell him that people don't want to play the crap you're creating.

>>718810553
There's a shit ton of things they could do, can't you imagine?
>>718812932
I honestly hope they do, I just recently replayed MGS2 and the fact that they leave the patriots as a mystery is fantastic

>>718811868
We already had new Big Boss clone in the previous game, please no more new eye patch man clone as a protagonist

>>718810553
I want to play as Solidus, how would that play out in the story? I don't fucking know but Solidus is cool

>>718824590
>but everything that's beloved about MGS2 and 3 absolutely came from Kojima's own brain.
Unlikely the gameplay and general design direction on the other hand. MGS4 is the key example of where Kojima was power tripping over every other department in the studio. To the point of where they were barely utilised unless in some very controlled scenario of where they had to work inside his very narrow box.

>>718810553
reboot from Portable Ops on, do a whole new timeline

I'm old enough to remember when rabid kojimatards threw a tantrum 20 years ago when Kojima wanted to do stuff other than MGS. These days gamers are even more mentally ill subhumans so they will never accept Metal Gear without Kojima.

>>718825642
It wasn't really a power trip though. Kojima was tired of the series and didn't want to make 4 at all. Fans and Konami and his own studio demanded he do it. Otherwise he wouldn't have been involved with 4 at all. That's why the story is fucking retarded meta thing that seems to intentionally sabotage and mock the series and is all about being old and dying.

>>718825642
>"Kojima actually didn't write MGS, the other guy fixed his shitty writing"
>shows resume of the other guy being a worse writer than Kojima, and him not really writing MGS
>"Ok Kojima wrote the game but he didn't make the gameplay"
Stop shifting goalposts retard. MGS4's mechanics were alright too, map design and gimmick maps like act 3 sucked? Sure but the stealth mechanic of the game is actually good.
Also if Kojima was a dictator during MGS4, the game would've ended with Snake and Otacon being imprisoned and executed due to his random autistic obsession with Sacco and Vanzetti incident.
I agree that he's a pretentious fucko now but you don't have to cope about it like this, he is a bit of an idiot but the guy had talent.

>>718824327
>Splinter Cell
They keep having Sam Fisher cameo in a bunch of other shit, but never commit to an actual Splinter Cell game. And while I still play Hitman WoA, it's a nearly decade year old game with a drip feed of content. Let's see how IOI's 007 game turns out.

>>718806213 (OP)
We already saw what they make with no kojima. Metal Gear Survive.
Gonna just ignore anything that comes out besides a remake.

>>718806213 (OP)
wouldn't it have made more sense to do that 10-20 years ago when the series was still running instead of letting it rot

>>718826369
Survive was based on a game Kojima was already developing with them, it was the suits at Konami that fucked up the concept

>>718826190
I still think that ending would've been better than the actual ending of 4.

>>718826190
>Stop shifting goalposts retard
I was never involved with the conversation to shift the goal posts, nor was I ever questioning what he originally wrote. My claim that Kojima doesn't know how to design fun games without someone there from stopping him from screwing it all up. Even that anon admitted that Kojima didn't even like the tactical espionage action games he was forced into associating his name with and he just had to make 4 against his own wishes. And there was a similar story in what happened during the production of V. Why I want Konami to continue Metal Gear Solid is that I don't think it will lack anything good in gameplay if Kojima is not present. There's also the chance for it being a failure and awful, but it wouldn't have been any different of a result if Kojima had been on board.

>>718826517
>Kojima reportedly requested to Platinum Games that the sequel to Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance have Gray Fox fighting against nanomachine-empowered zombies.
My god did they fuck that up. Jesus christ.

>>718826541
You say that as if Big Boss exposition dump wouldn't happen with that ending, but it's made by Kojima so I can assure you that BB would visits Snake's cell to dump exposition and die anyways.
Other team only persuaded him to no longer make the characters suffer now that the story has concluded, which is actually not a bad part of MGS4's ending and I think it saved it from being a worse trainwreck than TPP

>>718826612
I didn't say that he disliked making stealth games, it's that he was tired after making so many in a row and was forced into it the 4th one at a seemingly bad time. Hell you can see in Death Stranding when it isn't making you walk around that there is a lot of Metal Gear influence in the limited combat and stealth of that game. The claim he doesn't know how to design games without someone telling him what to do is just as delusional as the Fukushima thing.

>>718806213 (OP)
Why does every IP needs to go on forever though?

>>718827095
nobody trusts modern devs enough to buy new unheard of brands

>>718827025
I already do think 4 is a worse train wreck than TPP. The Patriots reveal literally ruined the series from then on, no story could ever be good with that albatross around the series neck and no story since has been. If you want to do the "I hate my fans and my work thing", go all the way with it I say.

>>718811554
Gas snake should just be a swarm of nanomachines

>>718827089
Until he can prove himself with Physint then I don't want to hear any excuses about what he did or didn't design. We've seen time and time again in the industry with studio veterans making failed comebacks and falling flat on their faces because they never represented the combined effort of their old studios. Yu Suzuki fucked up Shenmue, Glen Schofield didn't make another competent Dead Space successor, Kenji Inafune scammed people with Mighty No. 9. And so on.

>>718806478
>what is Metal Gear Rising

>>718827575
He's already proven himself by making Death Stranding games, two good and successful and well received games. Not to mention an entire career of success prior to that. And he still has the OD thing coming out before Physint. His writing has gone down hill over the years but his gameplay is consistently good for decades now.

>>718806213 (OP)
The problem with making new Metal Gear games is this, not only is Snake dead but remember what Meryl said in MGS4? The era of espionage is over. The technology has become so advanced in Metal Gear that agents for stealth missions like Snake are obsolete. Even if the technology of the Patriots was destroyed from what we can see in Metal Gear Rising humans continued personally advancing the tech the ais founded so stealth missions and such are irrelevant.

You really can't make new Metal Gear games in the timeline as its.....contrived. Unless you do a wholly new game in a new timeline or else world you really can't continue making much. And it doesn't help that again Snake is dead. And even if he was alive he literally put down the gun to live as a normal human in his final year of life. Snake is not going to waste his "senior" years fighting terrorists.

Metal Gear can't get new games except remakes like Delta. And another thing it doesn't look like the staff at Konami WANT to make Metal Gear games. They want to make different games altogether.

>>718827939
>He's already proven himself by making Death Stranding games
Which were complete shit, awful terrible games that are only propped up by his delusional fanboys that can't admit that he makes walking simulators. However well dressed up they are, walking simulators they are none the less. He has yet to prove himself. OD looks like awful Quantic Dreams shit. The same kind of games that we've mocked on this board for god knows how long.

>>718806330
Anthro Females. We need a revelation that the evil ais were doing experiments to make anthros. The funny thing is it wouldn't even be the first time such an idea was touched upon the Talking Cat from Monster Hunter and the apes from Ape Escape were all collaborated with Kojima's direction. So inhouse anthro women in Metal Gear.

>>718806513
>How do you even make MGS without Kojima?

Simple, make a game and ensure the gameplay is good and the story is simply entertaining for what it is. Look at other franchises that flourished without their creators working on them anymore like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. The most famous Batman stories were NOT written by Mr. Finger and Mr. Kane. Zorro's most successful movies have NOTHING to do with his original books. So simply make something good and make sure you don't listen to Leftists and Jews from the USA.

>>718828329
You sound delusional yourself.

>>718806213 (OP)
it's not MGS without kojima, end of story.

>>718828796
It doesn't matter if it's well rated if you're defending a walking sim. You're still a shit eater.

>>718806213 (OP)
My hope is that the teams Konami is training right now use their experience to make NEW original games. I don't care if they don't have cutting edge graphics, make them PS2 graphically but I want new games with new characters and imaginative mechanics.

I don't want more Metal Gear or Silent Hill while we're at it. I hope the new Silent Hill Remake fails. And I don't know how to feel about Silent Hill F. Anyone else think Silent Hill needs to END?

>>718829048
Delusional and spouting incoherent nonsense.

>>718806213 (OP)
Title reads like "scientists try to discover immortality".

>>718806213 (OP)
I want a sequel to Metal Gear Rising where Raiden meets a sexy android chick who is so good Raiden abandons Rose while taking his son to raise as a family.

>>718829095
Silent Hill really isn't a series designed for never ending installments the way a Resident Evil is.

>>718806213 (OP)
I just want remakes for Metal Gear 1 and 2. Nothing else matters.

>>718829095
>I don't want more Metal Gear
Why not that specifically if it just means new stealth games? I know that it is unlikely that's what we're really talking about here, and it's just remakes. But hypothetically let's say it just meant a new direction in the franchise and completely original new entries, that could work out just fine. We've seen how Metal Gear Rising turned out without Kojima. Even if the genre was different, it was still tonally Metal Gear Solid. It's not impossible to make MGS without Kojima.

>>718823854
That's a good point, Gray Fox was effectively legally dead but advanced tech injected the spark of life back in his corpse. Sure he was a cyborg afterward but the tech to make Liquid continue to exist was there.

I think that Liquid never returned because Kojima never imagined Liquid had much potential. He was some jealous guy who wanted to kill his brother and that's it. Trying to make Outer Heaven hardly counts as a unique goal since Solidus and Ocelot also attempted it. Liquid simply never had much substance as a character.

Metal Gear villains only show up to be main villains in one game only and its one of the series best elements because it shows how one and done human life is. You seriously can't expect a villain in this series to be like Joker from Batman who death can never stop. And it gets ridiculous and annoying.

>checks credits
>raises voice and stomps foot in disapproval
a HIDEO KOJIMA series!

>>718806330
Other than more remakes of the early games (or full reimaginings in case of the MSX ones), or maybe an interquel between 1 and 2 about Snake and Hal's work destroying every metal gear, or Raiden rescuing Sunny between 2 and 4 (which Rising started development as), there's not much left to tell. The story is already told from Big Boss' first mission to the death of the entire cast. You can't extend either direction, only between the games.
>>718810446
V did it.
Survive did it.

>>718831573
You could do a game with Boss & the Cobras, lotta material during the war and in the early cold war.

Mgs got the campy feels of seeing american politics through the autistic len of the Japanese
So as long as they got the vibe right it will be ok

>>718825642
To be fair, Kojima thinks MGS4 is melodramatic fluff at this point too. The entire final act of Death Stranding 2 is the most fucking tongue in cheek satire of MGS4's ending possible. The whole game is, really. Kojima's more self aware than you think. That's why DS2 is comically melodramatic and literally revolves around a dead baby while also being so heavy handed with those themes that no one could actually take it seriously. You literally have Guillermo Del Toro playing with baby toys to explain the plot one minute, then it's revealed he's been dead the whole time. Then his ghost ends up controlling Not-Gray Fox and you have an electric guitar laser battle against metrosexual Troy Baker, then recreate the microwave hallway scene.

>>718806330
Not really new or hasn't been done but they should bring back co-op play to MGS again. Still think Portable Ops and Peace Walker have great co-op.

kojima not make it, it bad >:(

>>718806330
Nothing needs to be added, but they should retcon the story after MGS.

>>718834145
V would've been perfect for it

>>718835140
>tfw the MGSV co-op mod comes out of nowhere and actually works albeit buggy
wish this franchise didn't went through such a horrible mess after MGSV and the Kojimbo drama.

>>718806213 (OP)
We want MGR2. You don't need to "train the devs", Platinum is RIGHT THERE.

>>718835810
Why rely on an outside contractor, a shitty contractor that could've closed down at any moment at that, when you can just train your in-house devs for the job?

>>718836278
Because Platinum is great. You can't replicate their veteran talent so easily. Bamco tried and shat out Scarlet Nexus which was dogshit.

There's only 3 dev teams in the entire world capable of making stylish action games: Itsuno's DMC team at Capcom, Team Ninja at Koei (but they handed over NG to Platinum) and finally Platinum themselves. Kick, scream, people that play these games know that these are facts.

>>718806712
>blindly consoom and never criticize, or you're not a fan

>>718826190
Kojima didn't do anything except plagiarize anime.

>>718806213 (OP)
UE5 already killed the franchise.

>>718836680
Yeah, in 2013 maybe. Platinum has sucked shit for a long time

>>718836680
Sequels are not Platinums strong suit.
I mean for fucks sake Kamiya was such a shitter he accidentally made one of the best action games trying to make a survival horror game.

>>718837404
Astral Chain is 2019 and it was good. More recent than any other aspirants (DMC5 was 2018 and TN makes Soulslikes now). And guess what's the next best action game - new installment into the stylish action genre? Ninja Gaiden 4 by Platinum. Sorry but people that play these games know that these are facts.
The tales of Platinum's lack of quality have been greatly exaggerated. The hatred comes from secondaries. They're a small AA studio and they're carrying an entre genre on their back with nobody even coming close to their output.

>>718837806
Nier Automata was a sequel and it mogged the original.

>no no doesn't count since it's not the sequel of a Platinum game
Ok, Bayonetta 2 was a sequel to Bayonetta and it was good. Maybe not Bayo's 10/10 but it was a 9/10.

>>718835810
MGR2 would be cool but I just want a new Metal Gear Solid. A platinum game should be established after the series is confirmed to be alive or not. But I do believe potential devs should take notes about how you can take creative liberties with the franchise writing in the same way that platinum did it.
>>718806285
MGS4 is better off dead on consoles. It's the only Kojima game pre Death Stranding in which you could watch it on YouTube and get the same experience. Well I'm just talking about when Kojima was relevant and made MGS of course.

>>718828061
What if Delta is an attempt to reset the timeline like Capcom did with their remakes? MGS3, MG1 and MG2 would work well as a trilogy.

>>718838101
>Bayo's 10/10
dick ride a little harder bro

>>718840057
Bayo is in the holy trinity of action games - therefore one of the best games of all times because stylish action subgenre is the most difficult breed of games to get right.

Of course I'm biased but even if you look at it objectively Bayo 1 is a 8/10 game at least. Bayo 2 is a worthy sequel despite slightly streamlining aspects only appreciated by the hardcore /cgg/ players. Shave off a whole point and you'll still get a 7 or a 7.5/10 game desu which is great.

>>718806330
the most obvious thing to mine is a new remake of mg2. it's the centerpoint of the series storyline but it only was ever playable in the mainstream as an unlockable in a rerelease of mgs3 and the original game isn't really up to the standards of the series post solid story presentation even as cheesy and videogamey as those games are.

>>718838101
Bayo sucks cock though. Imagine making the same game you've already done but with a woman instead and you make everything about it worse.
On second thought Platinum are gods just like la creatividad, it was shit on purpose!

>>718841917
>making the same game you've already done but with a woman
Yeah, you don't play these games. Thanks for outing yourself.

>>718806330
>what even needs to be added to the mgs games that the older games havent done already?

There's a lot of things they could do with a sequel
>MGR2/MGSR revival, the script is supposedly finished and you played as both human/cyborg raiden between 2 and 4
>MGSV2 sequel, focus on expanding the action stealth gameplay and PMC mechancis
>Gray Fox game, this is something Kojima has wanted to make for years so there was probably quite a few ideas for it
>Metal Gear 1 and 2 remake, would practically be brand new games because they're so old and retconned now.

>>718806330
I'd like to see a WW2 game as The Boss, but the gimmick being she isn't on the Allies nor Axis but her own mission secretly. Bring back some of Act 1/2 MGS4 with being "neutral" in a warzone.

>>718842193
Yeah sure faggot, should I go grab my ps2 discs too

>>718842428
>gave money to tam tam
oof
we're done here

Remakes are boring, and I think remakes of the MSX games would be a disaster.

>>718842428
>dmc drone
>can't accept a diffrerent game is better than his shit
dont worry you'll always have Donte and the emo faggot kyrie retard to play since they ruined dante

>>718806285
>huge MGS autist
>doesn't have a PS3
>doesn't emulate
heres your (you) aquanigger

>>718826497
pachinkos didn't work out

>>718806213 (OP)
It will be extremely fucking funny when these nuMGS will be better than whatever kojima barfed out over the years.

>>718806285
>MGS4
Is absolute dogshit. You should consider yourself lucky

>MGR writer still at Konami
>Says he's always wanted to return to the shelved MGS Rising script
>Konami working with Platinum again for Guy Savage Delta
>Quinton Flynn changed profile picture to Raiden and retweeting Delta stuff even though he's not involved in the game at all

Bros....

>>718844612
don't give me hope

>>718806330
I also add
A liquid snake, and gray fox spinoff

>>718806478
Jima dick rider detected.

>>718806513
>>718808919
I'm all down with more MGS but if MGS gonna move forward without Kojima, we will never get kino trailers as this, you can't deny Kojima editing and style.
https://youtu.be/RhseWPWYPBA

>>718806213 (OP)
I want a Metal gear MSX remake

Stop using Unreal and use your Fox Engine Konami!

>>718846568
The people who knew how that engine worked left the company

>>718844563
thanks for being there for anon. so sad that noone ever listens and needs to experience the trauma firsthand.

>>718835810
It's not the same Platinum at all. That said, the fact that they went out of their way and got Platinum specifically to make the Guy Savage remake instead of just replacing it with a cutscene or leaving it out entirely, plus the Granin Rising Secret Theater joke both make me think they're priming the audience for MGR2, or at least a Platinum developed Castlevania game or something.

>>718821485
We already know all that stuff.

>>718819587
MGR doesn't feel like Kojima at all. It also sucks.

>>718846262
The game was supposed to be the missing link. It was supposed to show how BB created Outer Heaven, made amends with America, and created Foxhound.

>>718806213 (OP)
It's not a Metal Gear game if Kojimbo didn't make it.

>>718806285
>MGS4
Rpcs3 is good enough now that it's a moot point. If you have a x3d or AM5 chip it's effectively on PC

>>718806213 (OP)
How are they training them? Are they forcing them to watch shitty b-movies from the 70s and 80s and tranny porn?

>>718809514
There's no missing link, the Big Boss at the end of Peace Walker already is just like the one in MG1.
MGSV just hammered this down by showcasing Big Boss having no problems using one of his soldiers the same way the US used him.

UE5 has been a complete disaster for Konami. PES dies from Unreal, Metal Gear died from Unreal, Silent Hill died from Unreal. What's next Yugioh dies from Unreal?

>>718810553
Somehow the Patriots have returned

>>718806213 (OP)
just soft reboot the series & and focus on a new protag with a another well liked director

>>718806213 (OP)
MGS 1 >the rest

>>718848407
That's not really a great solution for most people though. Even if you're above the hardware requirement it can be a little glitchy, or at least it was when I last checked a few months ago. RPCS3 has a ways to go.

>>718823310
>MGS1
>music makes it feel like serious shit is going down
>opens up with some faggy romantic song
lol no

>>718847830
>It's not the same Platinum at all
It is. NG4 looks amazing.

>>718848072
MGR is the best MG game. Sorry not sorry but it is what it is.

>>718825642
>>718824590
>>718823310
>Fukushima is in
>boring movies with atrocious gameplay

>no Fukushima
>Peace Walker, one of the best portable games ever
>MGR
>great hack and slash
>MGSV
>peak of the franchise, an actual videogame, and an operator simulator at that

>>718806213 (OP)
>Predictions
Generic action-centric slop. No balls to incorporate hard topics.

>>718806213 (OP)
It's going to be the sequel trilogy all over again.
Only game I'd accept is a direct sequel to MGSV that uses V as a base and expands it with more refined gameplay, more weapons, a pilotable Metal Gear and a huge variety of environments.

>>718848904
MGS 1, 2 and 3 were all fucking incredible games in their day. MGS1 feels better to control than 99% of PS1 games, MGS2 was a gigantic fucking leap from 1, with one of the most Kino stories in all of video games, that also happened to be extremely prescient. And MGS3 is just a really good spy thriller with insane avant garde elements.

>>718849073
If Physint is Metal Gear, I expect it to be a sort of Metal Gear Liquid, even if they don't call it that. Kojima's said outright that his one regret with the whole series was not using Liquid to better effect and killing him off the first time he appeared. Then teasing his presence for the entire rest of the series without actually fleshing him out, because he was either a petulant child who says almost nothing in the whole game, or dead the whole time.

>>718806285
>huge mgs
>doesn't own a PS3
>>718813195
The store is alive.

>>718849104
I don't know if it's because I played the first three in... well, reverse order, but I always found 2 to be the least impressive gameplay-wise. It doesn't have the depth of 3 yet isn't as snappy and arcade-y in good way as 1. To me, 2 was always the inbetweener. Which is unfortunate because it's arguably the most 'important' game in the entire series, and an actual good effort to do something with the medium that cannot be done with others.

Metal Gear Kart, pls

>>718849368
>MCAC GRR KAFT

>>718849368
>two bionic arms
How do we stop him

>>718849250
>>doesn't own a PS3
I tried that once. The console I bought off eBay was filled with 18 years of butt dust that emanated from the vents. I had to return it.

>>718849361
Yeah, you ruined your enjoyment a little by playing them backwards. 3 is 2, but strictly better in terms of gameplay and level design, and 2 is 1 with prettier graphics and a million little nuances and gimmicks. Literally. It's Raiden intentionally being put through a parallel experience to 1 that's been choreographed from the start. Just so the Patriots could have a pretty boy to wave around as an Ubermensch National Hero.

>>718849945
I've owned the same Fat Model PS3 since I was a kid. You can't expect the cheapest one on eBay to actually be good. That's always some dickhead selling his crapped out neglected piece of shit way under asking price just to get it off his hands.

>>718806213 (OP)
Studios failed to prepare to pass on the torch to new leads for when the veteran devs left. Remakes look like a good way of assembling new teams. The destroy all humans remakes are fantastic and I'm hoping they do a brand new sequel as a well

>>718849361
MGS2 is pretty different. It's much faster than MGS3 and more stealth-focused than MGS1. Even in terms of sneaking alone it's more claustrophobic than MGS1 or the MSX games. That's the appeal of it. MGS3 is a sluggish cakewalk in comparison.

It has its issues (crawling may as well not even exist; it's too easy to headshot your way through; the bosses aren't my favorites) but there's nothing really like MGS2.

I want another Solid Snake game. Big Boss had too much spotlight.