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Anonymous No.718817731 >>718819297 >>718819323 >>718819486 >>718820164 >>718823209 >>718828339
Red Mages
Based or cringe?
Anonymous No.718817813
what color is the magic they use again
Anonymous No.718818815
rez mage is beyond based
Anonymous No.718818947 >>718826212
Based. FFXIV version is kinda boring to play once you figure it out but at least it's a reliable class to carry PFs.
10/10 aesthetics as well, I like playing spell fencer type classes in games
Anonymous No.718819297
>>718817731 (OP)
Based if Viera, cringe otherwise.
Anonymous No.718819323 >>718819424 >>718819991 >>718820135 >>718820312 >>718822632 >>718822882
>>718817731 (OP)
Why be good at one thing when you could be mediocre at 2?
Anonymous No.718819410
Love RDM
Anonymous No.718819424
>>718819323
>Doublecasts at u
What now faget
Anonymous No.718819486 >>718820135 >>718825970
>>718817731 (OP)
When you're immature and your tastes are undeveloped, you'll think a class that can do everything is cool. When you're older and more refined, you'll understand that because it can do everything, it can't do anything exceptional, and thus it's just two gimped classes.
Anonymous No.718819859
Only if they're Mithra
Anonymous No.718819991
>>718819323
It's good at one thing, though: speed. Its gimmick is being fast. Fast attacks, fast movement, fast spells. The attacks and spells aren't particularly strong but there sure are a lot of them, hence its main feature often being Double Cast. It's good at both burst damage and burst healing. If you need magic and fast, you get a Red Mage.
Anonymous No.718820135 >>718821624 >>718823743
>>718819323
>>718819486
There’s never any case where you’d need to be “exceptional” at a hyper-specific specialization. Fluidity and versatility will always trump one-note skillsets, especially in areas where being “the best healer” or “the best nuker” is superfluous because you’re only getting a negligible benefit over the next best guy on the team.
Anonymous No.718820164 >>718820197 >>718820264
>>718817731 (OP)
>Bad WHM or bad BLM along with melee capabilities so weak you may as well not swing a weapon, make your choice
Explain to me how SCH isn't just a conceptually better RDM when they are mages that can switch between WHM and BLM mode
Anonymous No.718820197
>>718820164
SCH looks like a fucking nerd
Anonymous No.718820264
>>718820164
don't look at what FFXIV did to SCH. You won't like it
Anonymous No.718820312
>>718819323
>Doublecasts haste +protect/shell
>The game is now pretty much beaten
Anonymous No.718820756 >>718820797 >>718820967 >>718821002 >>718821542
doesnt red mage deal barely any damage? why not just play summoner at that point
Anonymous No.718820797
>>718820756
Summoner does less damage now
Anonymous No.718820967 >>718821474
>>718820756
In most games you use it for applying buffs quickly with doublecast, or rezzing+healing a party member in one turn.
If you're talking about FFXIV, because SMN is boring as fuck to play and does even shittier damage.
Anonymous No.718821002 >>718822469 >>718822681
>>718820756
red mage is:
>alright for 1 but peters out and becomes a temper bot
>useless in 3
>is a subjob for any caster for 5
>is a subjob for summoners in FFTA
>is a status specialist in 11
>is a standard caster in 14
Anonymous No.718821474 >>718822165
>>718820967
>boring as fuck
Maybe now. Double weaving dots and damage with a pocket insta-rez and short term tanking was fun and versatile and led to insanely clutch moments if you could pull miracles off properly
Anonymous No.718821542
>>718820756
They always have the couple of really good passives you level the job for.
Anonymous No.718821624
>>718820135
Preventing a nuclear meltdown is probably a good case. Being somewhat good at two other fields isn't much help in that situation.
Anonymous No.718822165
>>718821474
Yeah but that was two expansions ago.
Anonymous No.718822469
>>718821002
Haste + Blink and Protera and temper make it the best mage in ff1
Anonymous No.718822632 >>718822817
>>718819323
>FFTA
>can doublecast summons
That shit pretty much cleared maps on its own, not to mention the insane utility it has.
Anonymous No.718822681
>>718821002
XI RDM is too broad to put under a single role. Their SJ choice affected their role dramatically more than almost any other job in the game
>Tank
>Control
>Zerg
>Healer
>Nuker
>Melee
Were all viable options for them. Also Convert was one Hell of a drug that let them do all of this, kind of a shame it didn't become a staple ability for them
Anonymous No.718822817
>>718822632
To be fair double cast can be put on any other class. But red mages can clear groups just fine with doublecasted tier 2 spells.
Anonymous No.718822882
>>718819323
Its the best at swag though
Anonymous No.718823017
>be RDM
>wear blue
LOCK ME UP AND THROW AWAY THE KEY
Anonymous No.718823209
>>718817731 (OP)
When I play RDM I have the 2B pants for glam, combined with a long red coat. Most of the time it just looks like a rugged adventuring setup with boots. During the one attack when you do a backflip though, you can see the panties.
Anonymous No.718823743
>>718820135
The coolest part of FFV was making a Red/Blue Mage and having both the versatility of Red and the niche application of Blue.
My only qualm is not being able to dualcast Blue Magic. If I could do that, it'd be perfect.
Anonymous No.718825970
>>718819486
It's a bell curve scenario and you're still stuck in the middle.
>dumbasses just want to be able to do everything
>midwits try to hyperoptimize even though it's unnecessary because they heard it was 'meta'
>smart people know they will win anyway regardless of what they choose
Anonymous No.718826054
I hate that FFXIX RDM so well because FFXIV sucks.
Anonymous No.718826212
>>718818947
It's much more fun to play in PvP than in PvE in that game.
Anonymous No.718828339
>>718817731 (OP)
I respect them probably the most out of any of the caster DPS options. Nobody plays them, they're undertuned as fuck, limited glamour options, etc...