Thread 718818003

Just watched this
Why are there no Shin Godzilla video games?

goozilla?

>>718818003 (OP)
there's plenty of japanese political sim games if you know where to look

>>718818393
such as

>>718818040
gooz

>>718818003 (OP)
Licensed games aren't a thing anymore.

>>718818003 (OP)
Anno doesn't like video games

>>718818003 (OP)
Is this movie actually good?

I loved how many times they changed meeting rooms. I laughed harder each time it happened. Anno is a funny one

>>718818003 (OP)
Watched this in 4k at Cinemark last Saturday, by myself, empty theater, sat middle and in front. My 3rd time seeing this movie. An actual masterpiece, one of the best movies made in the last 25 years.

>>718818003 (OP)
The parts with Godzilla are cool but it’s deadass an hour and 40 min of Japanese people talking around a table

>>718818837
Nobunaga's Ambition

>>718820428
I loved it, but I'm not a typical Godzilla fan. It was a dry, humorous story about Japanese politicians determinedly marching from room to room to ask what the fuck they're supposed to do about this giant nuke lizard. Meanwhile everybody in a position of power goes
>Uh... I dunno.... Ask somebody else
All the while Japan crumbles all around them. It'a funny as fuck because there's always this tense music playing while the footage is just overhead shots of a bunch of tired office employees march with deadpan faces to the next middle manager's office trying to get going a plan of action. Cue Godzilla fucking shit up.

For reference I also watched Minus One and thought it was hokey, melodramatic crap. So take that as you will. As someone who just likes good movies and doesn't care for Godzilla all that much, I think Shin is a legitimately good movie, and Minus One in the same league of Marvel movies.

>>718820583
Yes, but it's satirical, so it's ok

it's so funny how the "american" woman has some of the worst english in the movie

>>718820705
I can see that but the sheer amount of info and bureaucracy crap it was too much to keep up. I swear there was like 40 different characters all with different job titles I don’t remember most of them
>>718820885
Couldn’t understand half the shit she said lmao. The glasses guy had better english

>>718820885
As is tradition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sOMvf5fBAU

>>718821060
You weren't supposed to keep up with all of them anon. All of that was useless info strictly for comedic purposes

>>718821060
>I swear there was like 40 different characters all with different job titles I don’t remember most of them
I'm at least 90% certain that was the whole point.

>>718821140
>>718821180
That wasn’t funny at all for me. Guess I got filtered.

>>718821258
I think the idea Anno was shooting for the most was the amount of useless bullshit you have to go through in the government for anything to get done, especially in a timely manner. It was meant to overwhelm you like a child overwhelmed with the amount of reading they were assigned for homework. Like how you might feel at the DMV or when doing a lot of paperwork

ENTER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qELvHXj2P60

>>718820428
I liked it but then Shin Ultraman and Shin Kamen Rider made me retroactively think less of it and wish it was more in line of the later shin movies. Minus One kinda filled its spot.

>>718821367
No I definitely see it’s critique on how bureaucracies are completely useless

>>718821478
Are those two also directed by Anno?

>>718818837
Sengoku Rance

>>718821530
Yeah

>>718818003 (OP)
Shin Godzilla was fucking trash. Every scene with the humans was some lame ass low budget bullshit with acting so bad it felt like I was watching a fucking school play.

>>718821732
Sick, I know what I'm downloading for the weekend

>>718821880
Pssst
f i l t e r e d

>>718821912
We don't sign our posts here, bro.

>>718818003 (OP)
Man, Susie's titan form looks kino

>>718821881
Shin Kamen Rider has a episode format version as well if you want to check it out, it's split into 5 episodes and have some extra scenes.
For me, it's the best of the bunch.

>>718822579
That sounds pretty kino, does it have a special title I should look for?

>>718818003 (OP)
>america bad and stupid

>>718820428
Lol no. It's like 90% of a "political commentary" where the comment is a pedestrian-tier "The government is kinda slow and inefficient." Of the 10% with Godzilla, it's literally just an Eva angel in terms of edgy death-weapon where it's just ass-pulling new abilities to rape humans with. Even then, I genuinely don't think I would like it if it hadn't been Godzilla.

Either way, Godzilla Minus One is INFINITELY the better movie without fail.

>>718822815
This movie has nothing to do with America. Most don't except the first

>>718818003 (OP)
dogshit, Showa era wipes its ass with Anno

>>718820428
Yes, it's the best Godzilla movie since the 1954 one. People don't like it because Godzilla isn't some goofy retard fighting some goofy enemy or fighting a big CG monkey. It's what Godzilla should be: a villain and horror.

>>718822815
>>america bad and stupid
you don't need a movie for that

>>718822854
You're not giving Shin enough credit. It's uncanny monster designs were very well done. The CGI was used to make it look as practical of an effect as possible. The political commentary is closer to 60% of the movie and it's specifically a comment on Japanese beauracracy, not beauracracy as a whole

>>718822854
It's just a shame they went for a "live action anime" vibe when it came to the acting.

>>718822767
"Episode version" should do the trick

>>718822983
don't reply to TKtards

>>718821880
>lame ass low budget bullshit with acting so bad it felt like I was watching a fucking school play.
That is literally EVERY Japanese production after the 90s, you huge retard. It's why nobody talks about Japanese film anymore unless it's a new Ghibli movie.

>>718823018
They act as adult government officials would act. What was the performance lacking in your opinion? Civilian drama? That would have been even worse

>>718822854
From what I've seen of the trailer, minus 1 just looks like Legendary slop but by japs.

>>718823065
He has a point about what to expect and that Minus One is different and appeals to a different crowd, he's just wrong that it's a bad thing

>>718823035
Good deal, I'll take a look, thanks again

>>718822983
>The CG in Shin was so good that I actually thought they were using puppets by the way it looked
>Only one scene looked extremely CG and obvious (after he does the big mouth laser and has to cool down)

>>718823141
It's far better than Legendary. There is human drama but it's actually well done, sincere, and heartfelt. You give a shit about the MC and what becomes his team. It's not forced and makes a good comment about Japan's wartime attitude in WWII

>>718823101
I was talking about zero. I didn't care for the acting in Shin. Maybe the ENG dub is a different story but the Japanese acting is just incredibly stilted and poorly mixed.

>>718823018
If you watched Shin Godzilla in English it has an absolutely terrible and poorly translated dub by a kids anime company. I'm not kidding.

>>718823223
Yes. Why the greentext though, friend

>>718823278
I really felt like Minus One had great acting. I could more easily see criticism towards the acting in Shin, but I believe it's done the way it is in that film intentionally.

You really thought Minus One was more melodramatic than sincerely heartwrenching?

>>718820447
>get me my uniform
>hard cut to godzilla plowing through a riverbed

>>718822983
>It's uncanny monster designs were very well done
I wouldn't even call it uncanny. This genuinely looks really retarded. And okay, sure, not even half the movie. But even when he is fully evolved and stops looking like a chubby chungus-wungus derp monster-pal that I might see on a tumbler, his final stage looks like someone made a creepy-pasta of the original Godzilla design, with a really awful wiggling tail. Unique? Maybe. Dumb as fuck? I think so.

>and it's specifically a comment on Japanese beauracracy
I can grant you that it is specifically about Japanese bureaucrats, but there are so many parallels between that and my government (US) that I can't say I'm all that shocked or impressed.

>>718821478
What was wrong with Shin Iultra and shin kamen?

>>718823394
You get it. The sheer amount of destruction Godzolla can conjure in seconds, and all the time they wasted with formalities and cowardly bullshitting. Good stuff

>>718823409
Have you seen the original or any of the early films? It's very faithful to the design of those suits

>>718821060
that's literally the point
the young guy who's the closest thing to a main character gets an increasingly longer and more ridiculous title as he assumes more responsibility throughout the movie
the whole thing is political satire giving the middle finger to japan's government for their retarded ineptitude during the Fukushima disaster
it was basically japan's hurricane Katrina

>>718822815
this movie actually has a nuanced take on america
it's a genuine foreign perspective which is what makes it interesting

>>718823467
Nothing.

>>718823507
>Have you seen the original or any of the early films?
I've seen all of them up to around the third legendary film (I think I've seen all the others too, but my memory gets kinda fuzzy around all the newer stuff and I think I might have missed one of the vs. Kong ones). I don't think the Shin design is similar even to the 1954 one. Shin's design is very skeletal on the upper torso and mouth. It almost looks like a bloody skeleton. Aka Creepy-pasta Godzilla.

>>718822983
>>718823409
the best thing about shin is how he's depicted as a walking natural disaster
the faraway shots showing him towering over that city and a massive path of destruction behind him are the best shots in the entire franchise
the scale of the destruction is unreal

>>718821367
>I think the idea Anno was shooting for the most was the amount of useless bullshit you have to go through in the government for anything to get done, especially in a timely manner.
Anno was not only the first to mention this, his version was significantly less impactful. I felt way more emotion from this than I did Shin. Genuinely, if you liked Shin, I think you'll like this.

>>718823376
I thought Minus One was great overall and the ending scene is a fantastic example of less is more when it comes to acting. It's not enough to spoil the movie for me but my issue is more to do with certain side characters that drift a bit too far into pantomime territory for my liking. It is probably just a me thing though, I pretty much despise anime in all of it's forms.

>>718823970
>certain side characters that drift a bit too far into pantomime territory for my liking. It is probably just a me thing though, I pretty much despise anime in all of it's forms.
Aren't you just basically saying that you hate Japanese personality types at the end of the day? I get that they are often grossly exaggerated in anime, but even then they're not acting like impossible aliens.

>>718823895
What Kurosawa I've seen hasn't disappointed at all, I'll give this a watch, thanks for the rec


>>718823789
Eh I guess you're right when I think about it but I'm still a fan of Shin's design. Like the other anon said he's very much like a walking biohazard, complete with the bleeding and bulbousness and walking shambles look

>>718823970
The woman who is shown to be infected at the end was less of a good actress than the rest of the ensemble but overall I thought it was stellar performances all around. The MC especially didn't feel animeish at all, it was a very human story of fear and redemption

>>718824184
shin godzilla is literally this thing
shin is KINO

>>718823970
>>718824089
japanese acting is based from theater which is inherently exaggerated
that's just how they act culturally

>>718824390
Ooh good call

>>718823970
The ending is the most embarrassing thing I've ever seen in my life
>>718823895
that one doesn't have a giant monster and modern weapon system porn

>>718824640
What's embarrassing about it, the sequel bait?

>>718818003 (OP)
Expand your Gojizons

>>718820428
There are some very good scenes which break up the movie which is predominately board room meetings. Really hope they let Ano make shin 2 which was allegedly going to be him doing goofy wahoo bullshit.

>>718824812
Pretty sure there's never been plans for a Shin goji 2 man

>this nigga suddenly appears in the distance

What the fuck do you do?

That's what I hate about Legendary Godzilla, he just isn't scary. It's not meant to be scary. It's not even meant to keep in awe. It's just "awe poor baby wants to sleep in the ocean and eat fish".

>>718824272
>The MC especially didn't feel animeish at all, it was a very human story of fear and redemption
It's why I specifically mentioned side characters but if I'm being picky I do think they could've used another take of his scream after the attack in Ginza.
>>718824089
>Aren't you just basically saying that you hate Japanese personality types at the end of the day?
I guess. I inherently hate dishonesty regardless of what culture it comes from.

>>718824883
THIIICCCCCCC

>>718824704
Hot bitch with the nice job randomly dies when Godzilla barges in out of nowhere, then magically pops back up at the end because our pampered protagonist already handed every comfort imaginable suddenly decides to quit whining and choose life. Absolute dogshit stain on the very concept of film.

>>718824947
Oh, that felt asspullish to you? Not to me. It would've been weirder if they took her away without any resolution at all, imo

Shin Kamen Rider kinda disappointed me after the first fight. That was amazing and it felt like everything after was just pretty predictable and none of the fights were as inventive or fun.
t. Hasn't watched much Kamen Rider outside of older movies like Hakaider and Kamen Rider ZO

When is Gamera gonna get the respect he deserves?

>>718824883
uhh
run perpendicular
not be japanese

>>718825219
>not be japanese
Not an option in this scenario

>>718823467
He's saying they were better than shin godzilla. At least I think that's what he meant. And I certainly agree that shin ultraman is better. That movie is really great.

>>718825203
And what has Gamera done to earn this respect exactly?

>>718824947
>>718825014
The MC should have shown up after godzilla wrecked the place and presumably killed her (but it's never actually shown)
then her showing up at the end wouldn't feel so asspulled and the drama of him showing up to the scene but only after it's all over and not being able to find her would be far more biting and less contrived melodrama as it is in the movie where he happens to get there just as Godzilla is rampaging after she just happened to survive being crushed and then just happened to push him to safety instead of diving into him which would both save herself and also save him more effectively by having more force to push them to safety and you literally see her get yeeted and mc reeees about it
it's just too contrived when a parallel audience and mc know the same thing (nothing) would be more poignant and make the reveal at the end feel like a genuine relief instead of a generic asspull
hire me toho

>>718825128
I watched a bit of it way back but I just didn't find it interesting.

>t. Also didn't watch much Kamen Rider

Didn't watch much Ultraman either but I still wanna watch it. I think peak kino would be to somehow shoehorn in ultraman fighting shin Godzilla for a Godzilla sequel.

>>718825014
It mainly the whole thing felt like a unserious cartoon that demanded it be taken serious and what the fuck was that bargain-bin spreadsheet slideshow with the stock morse code sound effect right after the opening? Instantly told me something was off.

>>718825434
Hate to say it but you might just be autistic buddy

>>718820428
It's like Evangelion but this time the Angel is a lizard and Japan doesn't have Evangelions or a competent organization like NERV.

>>718825383
The MC should have been someone I gave a rats ass about then maybe bringing the bitch back would've been more than an asspull to me. These two are just more main than the rest of it's huge cast of characters and I cared more about him getting some engrish pussy that night than the entire 2 hours of minus one.

>>718825582
>shin Godzilla but they DO have evangelions
imagine the kino

>>718825427
Shin Ultraman is pretty good. Unfortunately Shin Ultraman and Shin Kamen Rider and fighting a battle Shin Godzilla didn't have to. They're both trying to adapt their original entire shows into movies. Shin Kamen Rider stops halfway through the original show, but Shin Ultraman does the whole original show. Unfortunately I think this hurts both when they they should have just been original stories like Shin Godzilla was.

>>718825604
logistical drama>human drama
anno also unironically proves he is a god tier director with this movie
if for some reason you disregarded all the kino he already is responsible for

>>718825604
Again sounds like a (You) problem

>>718825671
Pacific Rim but not shit? Fund it!

>>718818003 (OP)
Just read this why there are no games about it

>>718825804
There was one for the 3D0

>>718825750
it's not the fact it's a human drama
it's a bad human drama where bullshit just happens and our protagonist has no struggles and people clap to this and expect you to do the same

>>718820428
If you think the failure of Japanese bureaucracy is super interesting, sure.
Otherwise watch Minus One.

>>718825925
>protagonist has no struggles
so you indeed have autism

>>718826000
If you like anno or evangelion you should watch it
it's like a live action 2 hour version of my favorite eva episode

>>718826070
The Andromeda Strain one? That's the only episode it felt too similar to.
And that was already based on a movie.

>>718826000
You cam watch both. He'll, it's the weekend

>>718822854
Minus One is a live action anime with the worst acting ive ever seen

>>718825427
Shin Ultraman is good but it's played completely straight. There's no real twists or subversions and it's hardly darker than the original, unlike the other two toku Shin movies.

>>718826039
what the fuck are any of minus-whatever characters going to do in the sequel? They already increased his power levels and now has some giant dick head to fight, what the fuck does that do for a semi grounded human drama in post-war japan?

>>718826000
>Otherwise watch Minus One.
But that was also about Japanese government fuck ups. It's almost like the Godzilla series has this theme of Godzilla being a karmic punishment for poor leadership.

>>718826176
the ramiel one
ep 6
where the whole ep is just coordinating that country to route energy to shoot 1 (one) nuke shot at a fucking CUBE

>>718823224
>There is human drama but it's actually well done, sincere, and heartfelt.
It's a fucking soap opera

>>718826397
I love Minus One but I really don't feel like in needed a sequel.
>But the teaser!
That's fine. It's still a nice standalone thing.

How did Minus One win an Oscar for special effects when its CGI is so much worse than Shins?

>>718825604
>>718826397
I felt absolutely nothing for these characters.

>>718826414
little goober didn't make it
>>718826452
exactly the problem it's too cheesy

>>718825604
>>718826397
I did not give a single fuck about these characters

did I mess up

>>718826565
>>718826720
soft little bitch

>>718820698
That's my opinion for both movies as well, Minus One was really disappointing after Shin and not campy enough to be enjoyable as the old movies.

Why is it called "Shin" Godzilla, anyway?

>>718826837
Says the faggot who thinks le engrish girl was a good character

>>718826743
>Godzilla minus x1 $55.25

>>718827113
she's just one of many in a slow burn procedural film with a large cast of characters and I cared more about her being on screen than whoever the undead bitch was

>>718827261
how can you say anno is a bad director
this movie looks a hundred times more interesting than 99% of shit

>>718823467
>>718825298
I'm a Godzillafanboy thru and thru and nothing is going to stop me from being one, but by god was Shin Ultraman so much better. I despise Shin Godzilla and think Shin Ultraman was the better one. Even if Ultraman did feel a little rush.

>>718827530
you seem to be lost
>>718827649
you hating it is exactly why it's a film instead of pigslop

>>718827795
Pretty clear you’re just a gigantic dickrider

>>718827795
Ok, explain to me on why this movie is a masterpiece right now.

>>718828298
shin is a masterpiece

>>718828396
Which one? Kamen Rider? Ultraman? Godzilla? Kamen Rider?

>>718828459
You said Kamen Rider twice.

>>718828298
it doesn't have to be

>>718828506
So do you mean Shin Kamen Rider or Kamen Rider Shin?

>>718822854
>ass-pulling new abilities
ignorant retard

>>718828689
What, no? I'm the one asking the guy to explain to me on why Shin Godzilla is a masterpiece. Especially since he's going crazy telling everyone is wrong for not liking it. I thought you just put Kamen Rider there twice as an accident.

>>718828808
i'm just messing with ya brah

>>718818003 (OP)
he's in nier automata

>>718828836
You reminded me of that old meme of the white guy walking down the street and meet the black guy and cried about it here.

>>718828751
ultimate lifeforms can do anything they want
>>718828808
it's just a better movie than minus one as I actually enjoyed watching it

>>718829161
why did folding this make it make sense

>>718821478
>Minus One kinda filled its spot.
Hard disagree. Minus One is better than every movie that came out around the same time, but that bar is so fucking low you'd have to tunnel to get underneath it. Minus One isn't actually very good as a standalone film, let alone a Godzilla film. Shin was innovative, nuanced, unique, and absolutely earned a spot among the top 3 Godzilla, not to mention completely blew 2014 out of the water by being everything it should have been.
Minus One is representative absolutely everything wrong with the Japanese film industry, and is derivative, sterile, safe, cliche, and grossly formulaic. The one thing I can give it over Shin is the soundtrack.

>>718829161
What the fuck am I even looking at here? Like is it his blood I don’t get it?

>>718829742
>over shin
>soundtrack
you are insane
sagisu is God

>>718829794
>sagisu is God
I agree, but he made like 3 tracks for the film, the rest are CD rips of other soundtracks.

>>718820428
its 117 minutes of japanese people sitting in conference rooms discussing how they are going to deal with godzilla, and 3 minutes of cool godzilla shit that you have already seen in clip form 1000s of times

>>718829742
wtf the music is one of the few great things about Shin tho

>>718829871
Let me guess, you like the legendary films?

>>718829752
his genetic make up???
>>718829742
>better than every movie that came out around the same time
2023 being a bad year doesn't make it good

>>718820428
Yes it's great like many people have said. A lot of these movies are at least fun. I like when anons like >>718822854 get a reality check when they don't know how to handle the reception on a larger level (I saw this in theaters btw)
People were saying Minus One was a Top 3 Godzilla movie when it came out

>>718829927
no those movies are also pretty bad but at least they arnt 117 minutes of people sitting in a conference room talking, you will never be japanese btw

>>718820428
not a fan of disaster movies nor a godzilla fan but I liked it. heard good things about minus one but it had too much of japanese overacting.

>>718825369
Being straight up better than Godzilla for a golden 3 movie stretch that Toho couldn't match for 20 years

>>718830114
adhd phone brain

Of course /v/ contrarians love shin but absolutely despise minus one. So predictable

>>718830114
>but at least they arnt 117 minutes of people sitting in a conference room talking
And evidently you will never have an IQ in the double digits.