Thread 718834818

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Make something new, faggot nigger

i would love a remake - then they could fix everything wrong with me and then I could be normal.

>>718834864
You're telling me I'm supposed to take creative risks in a creative field? AIPAC arrest this man, he's being antisemitic.

>>718834818 (OP)
Remakes are for retards and faggots.

>>718834818 (OP)
A 1:1 remake shouldn't be 70$.

>>718834971
Based on what reason?

>>718834818 (OP)
You can’t win with a remake. You’re not even actually competing with the old game but against the nostalgic memories of its fans.

>>718834864
fpbp

Actually true. There's no satisfying a crowd who likes being mad.

>>718834818 (OP)
Odin Sphere made both in the same cartridge. And it's great.

>>718834818 (OP)
>/v/ is one person
Dumb collectivist

>>718834818 (OP)
This is why I don't play video games anymore.

>>718834864
Holy based

>>718834818 (OP)
If the game is unavailable on modern hardware, then release a port, ideally as open source, that targets generic modern hardware and software.
If the game has dated assets, then either release your own assets for it or rely on community mods, don't release an entirely new game.
>>718834993
Almost all of the work has already been done for them and copyright is theft.

>>718834864
fippy bippy
Remakes are always bad

>>718834864
fpbp

>>718834818 (OP)
outdated "meme" format

>>718834864
fpbp

>>718835228
same. i also hate niggers

Why don't they just make something new? Not everything needs a perpetually unending coat of paint for modern audiences and newer generations.

Friendly reminder that every remake is a new game that didn't get made.

>>718835246
Intellectual Property is owned by whoever owns it, which isn't always whoever made it.

>>718835343
New ip higher risk for investors who want to see line go up
Fanbases are also actively requesting remakes

>>718834818 (OP)
75% price cost release from a typical game full price standard would be cool for a remake 1:1 with just updated graphics, models and animations. 45% from standard price cost if it's just a re-release for modern hardware. This is reasonable. (Especially if they release two games for one like they used to.)

>>718835246
>Almost all of the work has already been done
You're talking about ports.
For remakes, they have to pay programmers and artists to create entirely new assets to replace the old ones.
I can tell you've never worked on software in your life.

>>718835343
The market majority wants nostalgia, there's some crossover with the market majority simply not wanting new stuff because it fucking sucks. New games are made all the time, play those if you don't want to play remakes.

>>718835343
remakes don't somehow occupy spots reserved for original games. new games are made all the time, but you don't play or like them either

>>718834818 (OP)
This is why remakes suck retard
Make something new

>>718835343
something new doesn't mean they'll make something good

Kill yourself jaknigger.

>>718834818 (OP)
In both cases, he is right.

>>718834818 (OP)
>everything works in extremes

maybe they should just ya know stop remaking stuff?

>>718836056
Why would they stop when it keeps selling?

>>718834818 (OP)
How come they don't call them "make overs"?

>>718835343
No but everything should be available as a modern port without bugs or cut content.

>>718834818 (OP)
>when a remake isn't made at all and an actually new game is made

>>718834818 (OP)

Sequel should have an improvement over all aspects of the game. Not be "different". But actually BETTER.

Picture unrelated

>>718834864
Addendum

>>718836259
Then it's a spiritual successor

>>718834864
fpbp

>remake a game
>it's extremely successful
>go on to make a new game but exclude a platform
>franchise dies

thanks squareenix

>>718834864
fpbp shills on suicide watch

>>718836302
make new games that are good

>>718836317
That's a million times better. Even if it's shamelessly derivative.

>>718834818 (OP)
yes, and?
your remake should be <$30
it's not that complicated
it should also be faithful and not dogshit that completely misses the point and fails to capture the atmosphere

>>718836435
They did that with KCD2 and you still sperged out because there's a jew and a black

>>718835343
Safe, cheap to make, have the brand recognition of a beloved IP already.
What's not to like for the shareholders?

>>718834864
/thread

>>718834818 (OP)
Those are two different people. I like RE2R because it's different and hate RE4R because it's not different enough. Very consistent position of mine
Of course you can be different and still suck like RE3R

>>718835495
>You are talking about ports
The term remake and remaster are almost entirely marketing terms to begin with and are taken from the days when you genuinely would be making analog media from an master copy.

All of the finalized design work for aesthetics, design and gameplay has been done. For a 1:1 remake all of the models and textures are also usually available just from dumping game assets, if they're lucky enough to have source code, then they also don't have to code entirely from scratch.
The massive volume of skilled labor and management that has been preemptively accomplished can't be understated and the relatively lower quality programming and artistry that goes into making a derivative of that is nothing by comparison.
I wouldn't necessarily state that this is free labor, but the amount of effort and budget that goes into it is a fraction of a fraction of what would have gone into the original game and you couldn't possibly justify a 70$ asking price.
If they don't like that value proposition, then just leave it to fan passion projects like AM2R.

either youre too young to care that its a remake, or youre old enough to have seen a handful of good remakes.

>>718836302
/v/ in an image

>>718836436
Good artists copy, great artists steal.

>>718834864
Leave the thread people, nothing more needs to be said.

>>718834818 (OP)
Games don't need remakes, simple as, the industry see it as a lame cash grab not like opportunity to fix issues

>>718835343
>make something new
>NOOOOOOOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT!

>>718836607
Problem is those good remakes are of GREAT originals. If you're an oldfag you have no problem playing OGs instead, remakes are made for zooms who find OGs clunky
Unless it's a "remake" in name only like FF7R then it tries to appeal to all

>There is only one Person in existence who will only give one of two responses.
Many people have the opinion of the first Wojack, many people have the opinion of the second Wojack.

>>718836717
>Make a shitty new game
>Act surprised that people don't like it.

>>718836761
Stop being reasonable, we don't do that here

>>718834818 (OP)
>Make 1:1 remaster
>Fuck it up by making it run worse and upscaling shit with AI while adding new bugs

>>718834864
fpbp /thread

>>718835343
In order to fuck up the original so it doesn't compete with their new inferior products

>>718836747
streetcredniggers are all underage.

I WILL be buying Metal Gear Solid Delta, and enjoying it like it's the first time again regardless of the price.

>>718834818 (OP)
>Remaster/remake/director's cut
>It's good
I'll play it, and probably many new people will. The original is still there.
>it's bad
I won't play it, and probably many new people won't. The original is still there.
It's truly that simple, which one small addendum.
>The original isn't still there.
Then some suit needs to be shot.

I hate when there is an actually decent first post but the person who posted it is a cancerous, autistic retard who relentlessly samefags replies to it for some gay ass reddit screencap.

>>718834993
games shouldn't be $70

>>718834818 (OP)
esl image

>>718834864
fpbp
OP A SHIT

>>718835343
Because there's barely any new players, newer generations barely "play" videogames, they consume them instead, and you don't have to play it yourself to consume it, watching a streamer playing it is consuming it for example. Chasing newer audience only works if you make quirky streamer game to be flavor of the month, if you chase them with an actual AAA game project you company will crash and burn.
So you keep chasing the existing ones with a game they loved 10 years ago and sell it to them again.

>>718834864
FPBP

>>718836995
I don't prefer MGS3OG for streetcred, I prefer it because that's the one I liked for 20 years. I'm not going to stop liking it just because someone cloned it

>>718834864
All of the FPBP replies to this post are all the same Person. FPBP spam responses are always the same Person who made the first post. Always. Without exception.

>>718837212
Factval trvth right here

>>718834864
damn

>>718837212
>>718837996
>>718838106
Hi OP.

>>718839275
Hi >>718834864

>>718834818 (OP)
What's so hard about understanding this?
Remake everything about a game, or I will go back to playing the remastered original.