Thread 718852925

Specifically I wanted to ask about chinkshit mice, I hear they are good and cheap. Haven't seen any of the most talked about models in store listing in my country. But maybe I'll get some recommendations

Currently using pic-related and I just bought last year as a cheap gaming / work mouse; it uses batteries and can do BT and 2,4G and I'm surprised how good it is.
Perspective; previous mouse was a Zowie EC3, still have it and it's utter dogshit in comparison. Zowie kept using shittier and shittier ABS for their shells over the years, so the 1,5 year old EC3 is all shinny and gets sticky after 15 minutes of use.
Still have the original FK1 with the yellow wheel. It sits in my office is like decade old and it's not even close to the level of shine the EC3 got. I also used the S2 for 2 years and that one is also less degraded, albeit more than the old FK1.

So questions:
- which of the chink mice is the most sshine resistant and I guess POM or PBT is too much to ask?
- are there any good ones that can use AAA bats and do BT?
- I consider 4 and 8K polling a meme, am I wrong?
- from what I've seen most chink mice use a symmetrical Zowie-like design, are there any ergo ones, but on the shorter side (wide is actually good for me)?
- the fuck is everyone shitting themselves over mouse weight? Don't care for that as I'm more accurate with the Razer with the AAA bat than the significantly lighter EC3, but still very curious.

>>718852925 (OP)
>>>/g/

anything from gayzor is an absolute ass cancer. Especially compared to zowie.

That's a lot of text, I just bough whatever non-extremely cheap mouse and that's it.

>>718852925 (OP)
>I hear they are good and cheap
>good
>and cheap
You really should have stopped yourself right there.

rgb or bust

>>718852925 (OP)
i have no idea why you would specifically want "chink mice". all mice are made in china (other than Zaunkoenig) but the mice designed by european or american companies are by far the best.
anyway to answer your questions

1. i know Endgame Gear uses better-quality structural grade plastics for their mice, not ABS
2. g305 and its clones is the best AAA/AA mouse
3. 8khz polling is useful if you flick a lot and play games which support 8khz polling ingestion, games like valorant and OW do
4. no idea. the only "chink mice" i find any good are WLmouse, pretty sure they're all ambi
5. marketing trends
5.

>>718853598
>mice designed by european or american companies are by far the best
outdated thinking, especially when game controllers show that china incomparably mogs the west in certain products

>>718852925 (OP)
>I hear they are good and cheap.
No they're just cheap. The thing is that every mouse is kind of shitty so you may as well buy the cheap thing, so the logic goes.

>>718853787
Is this another fucking wumao shill thread?

guys will spend a month researching the best mouse, watch 100 videos and trawl through every forum, because they refuse to settle for less, and then finally buy the ULTIMATE mouse and it's wireless

always makes me laugh

Why can't anyone say a good mouse? I have a 203 Logitech that shit double clicks and double scrolls, I FUCKING hate it, and I don't know what an upgrade is.

>>718853909
just observing the reality as it is

>>718854228
open your mouse and clean it, retard

>>718854228
just buy this
https://www.endgamegear.com/en-us/gaming-mice/op1-8k-v2

>>718854228
>Why can't anyone say a good mouse?
They don't exist. Good products in general don't exist anymore.

MX518, my beloved.

cheap isn't really the word i'd use but they are pretty good

>>718852925 (OP)
I was recently looking for a right-handed modern mouse. But I want all the meme shit like being ultra lightweight and 8K polling and other crap because I want to see if it makes any difference at all. So I narrowed it down to the Razer Deathadder v4, ASUS's Keris II Origin, Teevolution Terra Pro, and Lamzu Thorn. Ended up ordering the Terra Pro. It's weirdly slim pickings.

>>718854541
yep if you want a mouse buy a mx500/10/18/g400/400s

>endgame OP1
>clicks are so stiff that pressing down moves thet mouse

>>718854228
I've been using VXE R1 Pro for close to a year now and I can recommend it but surely some new and better mice already exist...

>>718855231
no such issue for mine
but you can always open the mouse (there's just 2 screws on the bottom and they aren't covered by the feet) and replace the quickswap switches, iirc the package includes spare switches

>>718854357
>have to use a heatgun to remove the skates that are blocking the screws
yeah fuck you

>>718853336
Used to be like this, but currently, I'd argue. Zowie is solid, but their quality has declined and their products are seriously overpriced and some are utter shit like the mouse-pads. Razer definitely improved over the years. I went through 3 Deathadders back in the day and then switched to Zowie and it was night and day, now it seams the tables have turned.
>>718853392
>You really should have stopped yourself right there.
Dumbass post, chinks have stolen tech from western brands, improved upon it an sell it at lower prices. If you need an example, just look at mechanical keyboards
>>718853598
>i have no idea why you would specifically want "chink mice"
For a living room setup, wanted to know if I can get anything game-worthy on the cheap, otherwise, I'll just get another Deathadder Hyperspeed.
>8khz polling is useful if you flick a lot
Dude, I mostly play Quake 2 and 3 with friends, we fucking did those flicks 25 years ago on a ball-mice. It's basically all you do if you play Instagib or just like RG. You can do that shit on your moms shitty BT mouse (also major spoiler, it's easier in Quake 2 Enhanced than in any sourceport or Q3). The only thing I'd be interested in is smoother tracking though I don't know if it's the mouse, the mousepad, or just me. If people say it's just better for flickshots, they are outright lying.

>hands are 22cm long
>there isnt a single mouse on the market that feels natural
>always have to weirdly contort my fingers

>>718855483
>Dude, I mostly play Quake 2 and 3 with friends, we fucking did those flicks 25 years ago on a ball-mice
that's nice but flicking is objectively more reliable on 8khz polling, at high speeds there are significant gaps between polling reports at 1khz

>>718855534
FK+ is what you're looking for

>>718854541
This was my dream mouse since I first saw it in a gaming magazine. Then I got to try it and it was awful. Turns out size and shape are a factor.

>>718854541
Mein Neger.
Mine turned 20 in February this year. The second oldest and still functioning mouse. They are not mere objects anymore, they are a part of my life.

>>718853319
Funny because on /g/ they would send you to /v/ kek

>>718852925 (OP)
>>718853392
No, not really, I got a g90 china mouse or something. Magnetic click or something. Never double click they said. Still work after 6 years. I got that in Vietnam. Can't find them anywhere back home. Its g90. 15 bucks.

>>718855534
https://www.rocketjumpninja.com/mouse-search
You can search mice by hand length, width and grip style here

I used a Zowie FK1 for like 10 years before it recently started randomly double clicking when I only clicked once. FK1 is super good, I can recommend it. I had the Zowie AM before that, which was also really good, but it broke kinda quickly, also the same issue with double clicking.

I got a OP1 8k now, which is also great.

>>718855564
>flicking is objectively more reliable on 8khz polling
More reliable compare to what? It's a fucking muscle memory type of action. If I can do it reliably on my current mouse why would I care. If that the only benefit of those high polling rate, then it's just marketing bullshit. I imagined it made tracking smoother and that would have been an improvement, but flick shots? LOL
>>718855710
>FK+ is what you're looking for
No it's not. Zowie mice are overpriced for what they offer and the quality has declined significantly. Also, why FK+? Why not FK1? FK2? Maybe U2? It's all the same mouse, just with different sizes to fit the players hands. It's also sub-optimal just in comfort of use compared to ergo mice, but then again your parent might have no beaten you enough as a child and you became a lefty.

>>718852925 (OP)
>aliexpress chinkshit
>good and cheap
most of them have negative mouse acceleration so you are taking a gamble every time

get yourself a g502. it's amazing and cheap. 20 bucks. that still might be 4x more than what you'd pay for a chink mouse but at least you wouldn't be gambling.

>>718855534
I hear they sell some that are made from crystals that should be right up your alley.

>>718856279
And you can stop shilling fucking ecelebs.

Csgo pros play with shitty 5$ Walmart mouse and won. The fuck u noob talking about, just buy any goddamn whatever the fuck mouse and be done with it, pussy. RGB? On my mouse? Faggot.

>>718854010
You know you could just post data showing how modern wireless is measurably worse compared to wired. It would give you some credibility at least.

>>718856645
>Csgo pros play with shitty 5$ Walmart mouse and won.
Who exactly did this?

>>718856487
you are around bronze or silver level in fps games so yes, for you, you could use a 125hz office mouse and not notice a difference

You are playing on 3200DPI for the best balance of latency and SNR, right? right??

>>718856807
i do but it sucks how many games don't have proper sens settings and i have to drop to 800

Just get this. Fuhlen g90. On temu or something. Super cheap. Built likes a tank. Optical magnetic switches, never double click. 15 bucks. Its just works.
Trust me its that good. Only 15 bucks anyway, try it out for yourself.

>>718856928
>chinkshit
>'optical magnetic switches' (not a thing that exists)
no

>>718856873
How is it that Quake, a game from 1996 got mouse sensitivity so right. And 99% of other FPS's have some integer sensitivity value between 0-100 with anything past 6 being unusable?

>>718856928
Its likes the mouse version of phantom assassin air cooler. Super cheap, best p/p, good performance. Its a hidden gem. I only told u guys cause u are my /v/ros.

Are glass mousepads worth trying? Are sleeves necessary?

>>718857014
>buy, install, launch game
>go to options
>mouse sensitivity: [00]-[]--------[10]
>refund

herro buy g90 neva doubre krikku

>>718857014
>How is it that Quake, a game from 1996 got mouse sensitivity so right.
quake was programmed by genius white men who all played videogames regularly and tested the game themselves

modern game "UX" is programmed by genderdiverse obese lesbian brown women who don't play videogames

>>718856985
I bought it as a throw away shit while on a trip. 6 years later and its still here. Its dirt cheap, trust me this shit is worth it. Its only 15 bucks anyway

>>718852925 (OP)
Reddragon have the best chinese mouse but you have to find the right model

The best keyboard Is qsenn, the ones used by StarCraft pros...its cheap too

is this thread created by some chink to advertise his chink shitmouse
he's replied to himself like 10 times about it

>>718857140
Trust the process. Have faith.

G90 fuhlen. You aught to try it out. This shit is fuken lit fr fr

i got this one recently, the keychron m5 because i have persistent hand problems and its weird but also pretty good

I hope there becomes a market for gaming vertical mice

>>718854010
wireless transmission is in theory faster, in practice it doesn't really matter at distances of a few meters. Most of the delay from wireless mices probably comes from the translation process. Ideally we had dedicated pci receiver instead of usb (even ps2 would be better) and god forbid, bluetooth.

>>718857403
U have wrist problem. Vertical mouse forces u to use whole arm so its makes it seems like u got better with it

>>718857513
in my case its nerve issues, hereditary disease.
it's the same nerve that gets inflamed with carpal tunnel but without an actual carpal tunnel syndrome

i have it in in both arms/hands

>>718857060
>Fuhlen g90
ok thx, mouse literally isn't buyable anywhere, gg

>>718857543
Long term use of heavy mice will harm your wrist. Don't.

>>718857470
>wireless transmission is in theory faster
it's .95c vs 1c
meanwhile the DAC on both ends will take ages

>live in canada
>ordering niche high end mice is shitty
>can only use amazon because every other courier are lazy and dont even attempt delviery or even have product on truck they just put a sticky tag on door

>>718857707
imagine if someone finds a way to make an onahole controller that is more precise than mouse input.
And foids and tranies will desperately try to recreate that same input with a dildo controller

>>718858026
>onahole controller

>>718854541
I'm still mad mine got stolen from my dorm room days after I bought it.

>>718854541
Wat the fuk with them dents

>>718852925 (OP)
You guys ever had your mouse skip on some movement? My chink mouse used to "understeer" when i moved it too fast, like i usually do when flicking aim in FPS games.

>>718858474
battle damage from hardcore battles

>>718854010
>muh latency
It's a difference of milliseconds. And being as I am neither a speedrun tranny or comp autist, this is irrelevant to me.
Please explain the benefit of 1/1000 of a second better latency for when I play System Shock.

Simple shape and design. Love me g305. Only problem for me was the right button was activated just from my hand resting on the mouse, so I bought a switch with a higher force and soldered it in.

>>718855879
>gamer crust

>>718861169
i bought a g102 and the cunt started doubleclicking after two months of use

>>718861571
Yeah, I read about that, but it's never happened to me. I'm almost on year 4 now.

>>718852925 (OP)
how I buy mouse where scroll wheel never breaks buttons never double click for the rest of my life

>>718854228
A "good" mouse is entirely subjective because the primary quality of a "good" mouse is unfortunately the mouse shape and how it feels in your hand.
No matter the technical specs (mouse sensor, microswitches, latency, etc), if someone recommends what they think is a "good" mouse but it feels like shit in your hand, you'll think they baited you and call the mouse shit.
i.e. it's impossible to recommend a good mouse

Extremely comfortable. I couldn't go back to a non-ergognomic.

>>718858474
it's just visual it doesnt actually have any dents

>>718854228
>I have a 203 Logitech that shit double clicks and double scrolls
update the drivers. duh

Are the logitechs that mimic the MX518 design any good?