Thread 718856878

You WILL buy one.

>>718856878 (OP)
It doesn't even play Xbox games. I have over 300 Xbox games tied to my Xbox account and I can't play a single one of them on it. What's the purpose of it?

>>718856878 (OP)
I want a z2e device, so probably

Sorry, but I'm sticking with my Steam Deck

>>718856878 (OP)
i might save the 900 to buy a 5070 Ti super

>>718857007
what do you mean? its running a modified xbox windows OS.

This thing is gonna be $1000+, isn't it?

Also why tf is this "Xbox" a Rog Ally and not a Windows or Microsoft-branded thing?

>>718857336
Its 549 and 899

>>718856878 (OP)
I actually do want one, I just don't have the kind of money to blow on one.
I have a desktop with a 3070 Ti and it'll probably be the last gaming machine I ever use.

>>718857431
MS hasn't announced the official price yet. Best Buy leaked the prices and MS came out and said they're still definitely what pricing should look like. I'm guessing $100 under that. $499-$799. But even if they keep it the same price, I'm still getting it.

>>718857794
wonder if the tariff is affecting it. aren't most of these made in china?

>>718856878 (OP)
I will never buy a console more expensive than 300 bucks. Once Nintendo comes out with a Switch 2 box, I'm buying that.

>>718856878 (OP)
No, I won't

>>718856878 (OP)
Isn't it like $900? Lol at that point with a little more money you might buy a deck and a switch 2.

>>718857896
They are all made in china except switch 2s sold in burger land.

>>718862153
Yup, look at the bright side, the $600 one will lead to more verified Steam Deck games, kek.

it's definitely better than that piece of shit the deck is

>>718862465
>more verified Steam Deck games
are they still doing that?

>>718856878 (OP)
Shan't be buying a handheld PC until they get Nvidia GPUs
Especially because AMD is seemingly sandbagging their mobile APUs and hamstringing them with RDNA3.x and having no official timeline for APUs with RDNA4
I'm not using non-ML upscaling

>>718857007
So this can't play your Xbox library? And no streaming is not playing.

>>718856878 (OP)
I already have a Deck.

>>718856878 (OP)
Does it have backwards compatibility like a real Xbox?

>>718862653
Yes, they're setting up for next generation 2027.

>>718856878 (OP)
>$900
No thanks bro

>>718862572
>worse battery
>worse efficiency
>better
lmao

>>718862803
>better hardware
>can actually run modern games
stop grasping at straws

>>718863056
The Steam Deck 2 will be able to do that while having better performance, better efficiency, and better battery life than this piece of shit. Plus, it'll have SteamOS over XboxOS.

>>718856878 (OP)
Its tooooo big

>>718856878 (OP)
I will buy one in a year after the used market gets flooded with the things, like the og ally

>>718863418
It's both too big and too thick compared to the Switch 2 and Steam Deck OLED.

>>718863409
Let me know when it comes out.

>>718862670
FSR4 is backported to RDNA3 and RDNA2, and there will never be an RDNA4 APU, its UDNA after this. That isn't sandbagging, the added xtors hurt perf/watt in mobile.

Rog ally?

>>718856878 (OP)
>ALLY
DEI slop

>>718856878 (OP)
Just stream your PC

>>718863409
>Steam Deck 2
any day now anon, any day now. just like half life 3

>>718857282
You can only play games that have the "Xbox play anywhere" icon in the store, which is not every Xbox game. If you buy the Ally X and a game you bought isn't an "Xbox play anywhere" title, you cannot play it on the Ally

>>718856878 (OP)
The CPU/GPU doesn't really look more capable than what the Steam Deck has.
It's cool that it'll run a trimmed down version of Windows optimized for handhelds. Must be cool to have games just work out of the box and not require tinkering.

Still, I see no reason to upgrade. Though, if that special version of Windows actually performs better and requires much less memory and a steam deck compatible image gets released, I might try that.

>>718863945
what kinda oversight is this
it almost seems too stupid to be real

>>718864061
It's actually just stupid enough to make sense, Xbox is 100% leaving the console market

>>718864061
It isn't a Xbox. It's a windows laptop(handheld). What did you expect?

>>718863597
Everything is 2027

>>718864061
>>718862675
It's a regular computer that runs Windows. So it can only run games that have been ported to Windows.
Furthermore, you can only download games from the Xbox store that you bought on the Xbox if those games have opted in to allow you to also download the Windows version if you bought the Xbox version.
Otherwise, you'll have to buy them again, possibly from a different store if the Windows version exists, but isn't available on the MS Store.

>>718864218
i actually thought all xbox titles could run on windows

>>718864218
>It isn't a Xbox
it is tho

>>718864724
This was terrible gimmick marketing that they had no intention of carrying out

At first I thought this was a smart move from Microsoft. But seeing the thousands of mouth breathers who don't understand that this is an Xbox branded PC I'm starting to doubt that.

>>718865870
It was never a smart move, it was always retarded. The partner handhelds using the next gen Magnus chip with somewhat of Xbox BC will cost even more than these.

>>718864283
That was literally never the case

>>718865870
Console wars fried brains.

>>718866018
No, it's a smart move to make an Xbox branded fork of Windows that's optimized for gaming and controller input. The problem is that apparently every retard expected this to play Series X games. Also the true next gen handhelds with Magnus will cost the same as this one because two years will have passed by then.

>only 2.8Tflops compared to Deck's 1.6 for that price increase
if a deck 2 does eventually happen it should hit the 5Tflop mark at the very least

>>718866330
You're wrong, 2.8 is the Z1 Extreme, this is more like 3.2

>>718856878 (OP)
Is there even a market for this? I mean the Deck sold pretty well for what it is, but it's still a fairly niche device. Normalfags just buy a Switch, and the Deck owes most of it's success to PC gamers love affair with Steam/Valve.

>>718866330
>>718866386
Theoretical compute means nothing when these chips are heavily power and bandwidth constrained. Phoenix and Strix mainstream chips barely show a worthwhile performance uplift over the now super old Van Gogh when brought down to the same power level.

>>718856878 (OP)
I have a Legion Go, so why would I bother with this?

>>718865870
>mouth breathers who don't understand that this is an Xbox branded PC
Being only an Xbox branded PC was literally the worst case scenario, why the fuck would I buy this shit over any other handheld PC? Even other versions of the rog ally itself are a better deal than paying extra for a green X

>>718864061
MS doesn't give a shit about console users anymore. They are after the prebuilt PC audience. They hope to create slightly cheaper than the usual PC builds with an Xbox category stamp. Like what Steam does with Deck verified. They will try to get develoeprs to ship games with "Xbox" profiles for their two or three SKUs. They bet normalfags will buy these out of simplicity.
These prebuilts will price out 90% of the current Xbox userbase of course (just like the Ally X) but as I said MS doesn't care.

Will it have exclusives? If not, no point. My port machine is my PS5 and my BingWahoo machine is my switch2.

>>718866206
This is a dumb move because Valve already does this and their handheld is already far more PC friendly than whatever the hell this will be. Same with Valve's upcoming controller.

My dad wanted one so me and my siblings are splitting the cost of it as a gift. Not gonna buy one for MYSELF.

>>718857336
Microsoft doesn't want to spend energy on hardware anymore. They rather get third parties, give them a pile of money and put an Xbox stamp on their stuff. Just like with the studios and games they bought. Xbox is essentially their gaming brand, similar to ROG or TUF and such. Xbox will mean nothing but a Microsoft gaming device/game.

I think I’m gonna spend the money on a 5070ti super instead

$1000? just build a PC

>>718866330
Valve wants balance in the Steam Deck 2, my expectation are they'll go for around 3 TFLOPs same as the Switch 2 when docked.

for me it's the legion go 2. OLED screen, slightly improved performance, $1099 starting

>>718856878 (OP)
>can't fit into my pocket
Why bother?

>>718869989
Have they announced a price and release date?

>>718869979
The flops mean nothing. 3 TFLOPS without AI upscaling is DOA. You've had that since late 2023 with Ally X and Legion Go. But 3 TFLOPS with AI upscaling would be pretty fucking sweet.

>>718870183
no

>>718869989
Performance is the least important part of the Go 2 compared to the first one, it's like 10 percent faster. But the HDR VRR OLED, the big battery, and the 32 gigs RAM will be big steps forward.

>>718863507
The Deck is already big and thick enough to be a hassle to carry arround.
The Switch 2 is fucking great, you can throw that thing into any bag no problem

>>718856878 (OP)
I've never bought an Xbox product in my life, I'm not about to start now.

WHERE IS THE STEAM DECK 2

>>718871451
Are you all there cunt? Switch 2 is literally the same size just thinner.

>>718871585
2027+x.

>>718856878 (OP)
>Rog xobx ally x
Imagine the next gen name.

>>718871773
Asus rog ally x 2

what's the point in getting one when I already have an Ally X?

On the rare occasion I find myself "in a place and bored", which happens maybe a few times a year, I'll play a mobile game. Fire up Rush Rally 3, continue Grimvalor or whatever. If I'm out of my house, I have something to accomplish, or entertainment I am already participating in.

I cannot fathom a situation where an adult is not at home with a consoles and PCs and needs these PC handhelds. I'm clearly not the market, but I don't even know what the market could be.

>>718856878 (OP)
I already have the better handheld

>>718870953
Who says it won't have AI upscaling, it'll have a GPU based on UDNA meaning it'll have a FSR based on FSR4 meaning you should expecting AI upscaling in the Steam Deck 2.

>>718871451
Steam Deck 2 should be thinner and lighter given Zen 6 UDNA which is made for this stuff.

>>718872181
Z2e will get you like 5 extra frames and better power usage, so none.

>>718871585
2027 announcement in 2026 on Valve's 30th Anniversary.

>>718872697
Valve was so right about these chips and people shitted on them for it.

>>718872806
All the chips are meh. The ones with hx370 will give you more frames but youre still playing ue5 games on low/mediums settings

>>718872649
I pray Valve makes it smaller, i feel like it's possible even with current deck
the problem is i've see massive amounts of retards wanting BIGGER screens which is stupid, it's a fucking handheld. faggots out here wanting 17in size laptop screens on handhelds while buying 13in laptops

i have the legion go Z1e other than the 16gb of ram i think its still pretty good

wished the other releases had the detachable controllers and mouse feature that the legion go 1 has

>>718856878 (OP)
What are it's pros over the deck and legion go? I didn't bother to check, if the thing is loud and with a short battery I'm not interested, I also hate the ROG logo at the front, makes it look like a chinese bootleg console

>>718872893
They'll probably make the trackpads smaller, maybe, but increase the screen size to like 7.9-inches. In terms of resolution, I'm expecting 1920x1200 120Hz given the Switch 2 and other handhelds either on or coming to the market.

>>718873832
>I'm expecting 1920x1200 120Hz
not worth
higher refresh rate SD OLED screen that's normal ass 16:9ratio would be better
at most a slight increase in res but there's simply no reason to do 1080p

>>718856878 (OP)
Make me faggot

>>718871603
Yeah, and that helps a lot

>>718871603
>just thinner
so you get it

>>718874167
We're moving away from 720p/800p screens, 1080p/1200p screens will be the new hot shit.

What's the point of an Xbox that doesn't play Xbox games?

>>718875602
Normies know the name. Normies buy things based on their name, or the name of the people who (are being paid to) recommend the product.

>>718856878 (OP)
So what can this do or play that my PC with a 3090 can't? Sell it to me.

>>718856878 (OP)
i dont buy anything with an Xbox logo on it
>just buy the regular rog ally then
no, buy an ad faggot

>>718876338
That doesn't seem like a sound long term business strategy. MS should probably focus on making a good product over banking on a name that is fast losing relevance.

>it's the xbox one because you just need ONE to do everything :)
>xbox series x and series s are actually part of the same generation, yes saying it's a different series sounds like a different gen but it's just uhh the same :)
>well it's not an xbox for xbox games but it plays games so it's sort of like an xbox :)

are microshart.... retarded?

>>718856878 (OP)
>almost 2026
>buying anything with rdna 3.5

>>718876338
When normalfags see the Xbox name, they can only thing of Xbone, nobody likes the Xbone.

>>718877068
>are microshart.... retarded?
You're just now realizing that?

>>718875503
useless when it'll struggle to play unreal stutter engine 5 games from whatever year the deck 2 releases

>>718878496
It's based on Zen 6 UDNA, it'll be fine since it'll be made for UE5 games.

>>718862670
Mobile nvidia gpus are fucking god awful which is why the only company that uses them is Nintendo because they sell them dirt cheap straight out of a landfill and Nintendo doesn't care about quality.

>>718856878 (OP)
I already have a Legion Go, so no, i'll not buy a Rog Ally.
I do however hope Lenovo makes proper use of the handheld improvements on Windows introduced for the Rog Ally.