Thread 718863536

Why does getting the best rank feel like playing as Hank Hill? All you do is throw propane tanks at people

>>718863536 (OP)
self imposed handicaps are the only way to play the game

>>718863536 (OP)
You don't need the highest rank every time. Forego that bullshit and turn the game into a sandbox. For me, I play for the atmosphere. I love just walking around, listening to conversations, being next to the targets, blending in with the disguise amongst the other NPCs.

>>718864734
globetrotting simulator, my beloved

>>718864734
I get frustrated by all the scripted conversations that you hear over and over, especially since a lot of routes just depend on waiting for the NPCs to shut the fuck and move somewhere else before you can keep going
If there's one thing I wish IOI would think about for the next game, that's definitely it

I finished Hitman 3 yesterday, good shit I guess, but Mendoza felt kind eh as a final level. It was okay. I really didn't like how fucking long Vidal's loop is, so much waiting for her
Carpathian Mountains was surprise kino though, really reminded me of that Pandora Tomorrow train level which was also based. I'm surprised to see that a lot of people don't tend to like it, it's like they've been brainfucked into thinking every mission needs dozens of ways to complete it
The final two cars before you reach the constant were a bit awkward admittedly, and the unskippable cutscene at the beginning was awful

>>718863536 (OP)
It used to be throwing fire extinguishers but they nerfed them to be non lethal

>>718865604
>I'm surprised to see that a lot of people don't tend to like it, it's like they've been brainfucked into thinking every mission needs dozens of ways to complete it
much like colorado being all guards its just a departure from the iconic hitman "social stealth" content
even if old hitman games had similar departures

>>718865737
>fire extinguishers
>lethal dart gun
>electric phone
>emetic mine in a briefcase
what other cheese was nerfed over the years?

>>718865803
Colorado isn't really that since you just grab a disguise and have access to most of the map
The thing about Colorado is that it's just not very interesting, even if you're going for SASO, you'd think it'd be hard (and it is) but you just end up camping out in the basement and killing 3/4 targets in there (and you drop the hay bale on the pajeet)

Why is Absolution the most hated game in the franchise?

>>718866289
From what I can tell it mostly comes down to the disguise system being kinda fucked where anyone wearing the same outfit will see through your disguise

>>718866497
>Anyone in that department/familiar with that department and it's workers can tell you don't belong there
That makes sense though?

>>718866289
>latex bazooka nuns
>victoria obviously being set up as the girlboss replacement to 47
>half ton danny trejo
>47 cuts off his iconic barcode
>instinct mode
it was a goofy mess

What is 47's best suit?

>>718866674
Right, that sounds kino though.

>>718866587
Doesn't matter, it just ended making the whole system kinda pointless

>>718866834
>"not a bad game just a bad (...)-game"
anons hate the argument but its true

>>718866789
colorado elusive target suit
since there are so few hats

>>718866674
Most of that is kino and the girlboss thing from my memory is just wrong. She's barely in the game and wasn't the whole point of the story to keep her safe from that happening?

>>718866587
Sometimes it makes sense, other times it's schizophrenic.
In the chinatown level the whole point is that it's a market where random people can set up stalls. Simply being dressed as a chef makes all other chefs report you to the police even if you're just walking around the town.
You also had stuff like the SWAT uniforms with body and head all fully covered, yet other SWAT guys instantly see through it.

Then on the other hand, you have dumb stuff like 47 disguising himself as a specific wrestler and NOBODY sees through it even though it's one specific guy and not just a general uniform.

>>718867125
>lets just introduce the quasi-daughter of the protagonist who has all his unique abilities and several reasons to want revenge while the protagonist shows his aging degradation of skill so she can just stop existing and not be a part of the story ever again
said no writer ever, the agenda was about as transparent as danny trejos wide ass hulk body

>>718867125
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7rpuACsYtc

>>718867559
>I'm gonna breed you like a prize bull
lmao i forgot how over the top cowboy guy was

>>718867559
+200,000 ESG score
>>718867736
gotta show how rapey and evil straight white men are, especially in the south

>>718868591
It's kinda funny how your very first target in the tutorial of the next game is a black guy
These games aren't that political

>>718869105
products of their times
in any case absolution remains the redheaded stepchild of the franchise even in the face of 2016s episodic,always online, time gated content bullshit

>>718864958
even a mgsv time cigar would help

>>718863536 (OP)
The best rank is technically Silent Assassin and you cna KO anyone you want and take their outfits

The reason SA/SO was put in is solely due to retards who are autistic and wanted it in. Defs literally just put in one 'good/easy' path for SO and called it a day. Compare to SA normally where you have a variety of methods.

>>718870105
>wah the devs added extra content for the players because they wanted it
for free no less

>>718863536 (OP)
>shoot the wall
>everyone looks at the impact spot
>shoot the target
>he falls over and no one sees nor cares
>"Good work, 47. Come claim your Silent Assassin at the earliest convenience."
"Act like a fool; Think like a brilliant"

>>718870434
I never said it was bad. I said it was put in for retards who wanted it.
If you enjoy the mode of playing KO all the NPCs and rely on RNG, awesome.

so do I, anon.

>>718865737
>>718865912
it sucks that like 90% of items just aren't worth taking and that's not even counting the reskins that are just there for fun and not function

>>718864123
This. Even just going for SASO is the only way to give the game any challenge.

NPCs are so stupid. Until you start dragging a body and then they spot you from 3 miles away and start screaming and alerting everybody.

>>718870105
>Defs literally just put in one 'good/easy' path for SO and called it a day
I don't think so, in one of those noclip documentaries they state that they literally don't even think about it much and just trust that players will find a way
You can definitely see this in some levels like Sgail, where even though there's a lot of ways to get around there's absolutely no easy suit only kill methods like there is in a mission like Paris

>>718871281
Anon, they also claimed they had to make Absolution easier as during play tests, people kept getting confused in the hotel when the staff member told thme they can't go upstairs

>>718871418
>people kept getting confused in the hotel when the staff member told thme they can't go upstairs
Wasn't that the Arkane devs with Dishonored? Plenty of NPCs tell you you can't go places in Hitman.

>>718871152
imagine if NPCs were smart, game would be unplayable lmao

>>718870860
>t. never played escalations
show me your clear of the Kotti Paradigm 3
You don't even have to SA it, just clearing it is impressive

>>718871619
The downgrade after Hitman 2016 was unnecessary. They no longer have their vision cones tied to their head movement and it makes cheesing the game trivial.

I miss how SA worked in Blood Money.
I say I probably like either Contracts or Blood Money better than WoA but WoA has the most replayability and content so I end up playing it the most.

>>718866789
The one and only, and nothing comes close

>>718871707
>The downgrade after Hitman 2016 was unnecessary.
i never did check if theres a mod to re-add the panties

>>718871768
>m'handler

>>718871537
No, it was specifically in the level with the hotel and playtesters being retards are a common thing, anon.
Before Portal was released, the devs pointed out they'd have players run in fucking same directions over and over because they never through to go left

>>718871775
>i never did check if theres a mod to re-add the panties
I did check and couldn't find it. Maybe I'm just retarded though.
There's mods to restore the 2016 movement, separated camera systems, and to improve the NPCs somewhat, but none for the panties and another big one, suspicious items. In Hitman 2016 you couldn't carry a large number of items around openly unless you had the right disguise, but now it's limited to only guns.

>>718871152
I hate how they nerfed Professional from 2016 to make nuProfessional and you can't play Master with the old AI (which is still slightly nerfed) on like half of the levels because they also decided to guard spam on Master for the 2016 and half of the 2 levels to fuck over speed runners. Their solution. Just enforce Professional with its blind and deaf AI on everything else to tell you that's what you're supposed to play at.

And it's really Suit-only autists fault. Imagine actually WANTING to play this game ignoring the actually fun gimmick that makes it special, using the exact same garbage line-of-sight stealth from Aboslution that everyone complained about. Oh wait you don't have to imagine because like 75% of the Escalations enforce it.

>>718871707
that's actually wrong, I know this as I'm this guy, >>718865604, did SASO of Carpathian Mountains on Master yesterday and I damn well experienced how head turn could ruin it for myself with that one guard in the hallway after you climb into the room with the sleeping guard from outside. That guy has to be forward and not at you or you will get caught

>>718871916
>another big one, suspicious items.
i get that they dropped it because its multiplicative as they add stuff and could end up as a confusing mess on some levels but i did love that feature

>>718872082
And it's dumb, but making it so you cannot be frisked if you have illegal items just feels wrong. Let me fail dammit!

>>718871917
>Escalations enforce it.
escalations like challenges are for a change of gameplay

>>718869604
>episodic,always online, time gated content bullshit
people who use these as buzzwords to describe the games most likely never played them.
>episodic
2016 still has the best map roster of the 3 rebranded WoA games
>always online
just utter nonsense to complain about this. it's like saying your phone is "always electric". if you dont have a modern internet, modern games aren't for you.
>time gated content
ETs are some of the most weirdly over-focused pieces of content in these games. They are basically the equivalent of playing contracts. The gameplay is not the focus, it's just the "log into our game to give us your MAU +1". Only in few cases they have special gameplay associated, like the Le Chifre ET recently, and those always make it back to the game via ET arcade which is always there.

>>718865912
Gas mine in briefcase still works fine. You just put it in the briefcase, walk up to someone, gas them while holding it, and just follow them to a bathroom

>>718872178
It's be cool if the challenge wasn't always the same thing, that thing being, once again, playing the game in the absolute worst method for fun.

>>718872147
>And it's dumb,
>man in a suit running down the street with a hammer in hand
i'd suspect that, not enough to call the cops but its suspicious
>plumber running down the street with a hammer
probably in a hurry because something burst, i should get out of his way and not bother him

makes enough sense

>>718872257
>2016 still has the best map roster of the 3 rebranded WoA games
I feel like when they started out, there was no overarching story and they just followed the rule of cool. Here's a cool location, a mission to kill some people, that's it.
Then they had to tie them altogether to give it a connected storyline and II and III continued it, planned with it from the start, even though they still tried the globetrotting thing, but it feels more forced than in I.

>>718870434
They had to make the AI blind and deaf to make it happen, making playing the game the right way less fun. Probably also helped get more retards to play the game.

>>718872257
>you never played the game!
>okay so that did happen
>okay so that did happen but you complaining about it is LE WEIRD
>*babbles about nothing*
You're bad at this.

>>718865912
>lethal dart gun
But that's not a thing that exists

>>718872584
What are bullets if not lethal darts?

>>718872257
>>always online
>just utter nonsense to complain about this. it's like saying your phone is "always electric". if you dont have a modern internet, modern games aren't for you.
stop killing games would like a word

>>718866289
It had a lot of different ideas that were in conflict with each other:
>for the first time ever, 47 can non-lethally subdue anyone he wants without using a resource like sedative syringes or a very specific scripted knockout. You are punished in score for doing this, ever.
>You have a meter for being able to use your disguise among other people that use the same disguise, and ALL NPCs of the disguise you're using will know you
>This basically means that the game is entirely about crouch-walking everywhere and not interacting with NPCs as much as possible, completely defeating the point of a fucking Hitman game
>to add insult to injury, the basic line-of-sight stealth the game does use is just complete garbage. Enemies can't see a man in a conspicuous tuxedo crouch walking 20 feet away from them, even though they can spot you through your disguises automatically. Gluing yourself to a wall makes you invisible even when the enemy animation shows them walking over to the chest-high wall you're glued to and looking directly over it

WoA has all these same issues with its line of sight stealth except for the rework of the enforcer system and knocking enemies out no longer counting against your score.

>>718872257
>2016 still has the best map roster of the 3 rebranded WoA games
Marrakesh Bangkok and Colorado all suck
3 had the best map roster

>>718872442
I can guarantee you didn't play the game in 2016 when it was episodic, since everyone who did has a positive opinion on the game. To you it's just a meaningless buzzword. Much like "always online". It doesn't mean anything, it's just "it's baaaaaaad, it just is" because some ragetuber told you that. On the off chance you have a 3rd world internet, you have more serious issues in your life than not being able to play a videogame.

NTA who spoke about the online bullshit but there are two major problems with it, even ignornig the obvious one of 'IOI can just cut you off to what you bought'
From a gameplay perspective, we know that ahicevements in game often don't unlock and also with the weird rollback feature it has, they sometimes need to be redone

This is of course solved with the Peacock project on PC but console users are fucked

tho I can't imagine having to play Hitman without Cheat Engine's speedhack

>>718872257
>always online
This is stupid and unnecessary for a 99.9% single player game.
Luckily Peacock exists, but that shouldn't have been needed. Making a game that is a 100% single player experience outside of leader boards require an Internet connection at all times is just retarded.

>>718869934
cut content

>>718872687
Corky escalation is easily Top 3

>>718872791
>*babbles about nothing*
>again
You're really bad at this.

>>718871281
>Sgail
>no easy suit only methods
It's trivial to move around in Sgail. Sneak up to Janus' coffin and from there there's a convenient pipe to take you to the butler's room. I definitely don't buy that they don't plan for suit only

>>718872972
The game is basically built entirely around SASO after 2016. At least if you enjoy any form of challenge whatsoever. That's why the AI is retarded, in order to make SASO possible.

>>718872972
>from there there's a convenient pipe to take you to the butler's room.
Which neither of the targets ever visit
There's a propane flask at the base of the tower you can use to kill shaniqua 1 who walks around the coffin, this basically the only way I know to kill her suit only because nowhere else she goes has enough cover to allow to do anything undetected

Shaniqua 2 the only way I could figure to do it is to go into the security room she visits, take out the two guys there and kill her when she comes inside and even that only works because she leaves her bodyguard in the previous room for no reason

>>718872834
It's just a form of their vision of the 3 games, they wanted an interconnected content environment and they achieved it using a constant connection to a web server.
>>718872962
At least you're making it obvious you were trolling from the start.

>>718873429
One of them should be killable Suit Only fairly easily by sabotaging the stage that she does the ceremony on. You are able to do all of the setup for that below the stage where the crowd is gone.

>>718873501
>trolling
you keep using nonquitters, he isn't even me your arguments are just so bad he felt the need to call you out :^)

>>718873517
I tried that over and over but there's no way to do it suit only as far as I can tell. If you light the thing before she gets there, she'll stop and turn away, if you light it up after she gets there, she won't recognize it and go inside

>>718873429
>Which neither of the targets ever visit
Doesn't one of the sisters pass right by the door of the lounge on the opposite side of that glass bridge? I definitely remember blowing her up there

what elements will they reuse?
>inb4 always online

I have a feeling it will stick close to absolution template, while being more ambitious with semi open levels that tie together using a narrative element.

>>718873605
point out your arguments that aren't trolling, i'll respond

>>718873893
>your arguments
i didnt bother making any when i saw the other anon pointing out your vitriol

>>718873893
007 will definitely be always online. By 2030, all single player games will require constant Internet connections. IOI is just leading the charge.

>>718873891
I think so, but even getting across the bridge requires you to get by the two guys posted there, and if you want to blow her up that means you need a propane flask, which you can't climb with
I don't know how you'd pull off an explosion kill in a crowded area you're trespassing in and have no cover for without getting caught either

>>718874079
what the fuck are you talking about

>>718874358
>and if you want to blow her up that means you need a propane
IIRC there's one by the mortuary where that woman is doing work on Janus' remains, and the guards watching over the tower at bridge level conveniently split during their route to give you easy knockouts on them

So how do I unlock this mission? It's the only thing I cannot buy and Peacock devs are the morality police and refuse to add it despite it being unavailable.

>>718874686
you wait until they replace the references with legally distinct celebrity boxing man and resell it full price

>>718874686
you must Get Access, I think

>>718874817
SIXTY DOLLAS?!?!

>>718874686
Oh, that's the McGregor ET mission. It was taken off stores shortly after being put up due to the wrestler being accused of rape

>>718874686
That's the neat part, they won't due to the contract
The best they can do is remove it but that would mean letting you get achivements for free

>>718874686
You didn't buy it when you had the chance?
You're SOL my retarded friend. Let that be a lesson to you, when DLC comes out, you buy day 1!

Still haven't lvl 20'd every map. I think I have one more left in the 2nd game and then all of the 3rd game ones.

>>718874675
Alright well if you're so certain on that one, let me know your route through Santa Fortuna, because for me, trying to get into the Delgado mansion (at least on Master) feels like pure jank and luck

>>718875236
you'll get most of them accidentally while doing challenges with rewards

>>718863536 (OP)
>Hitman thread
You mean WoA thread.

>>718876493
nah we discussed why absolution is shit too
has anyanon actually played hitmango, i just like its silly name

>>718876618
Absolution is just WoA 0.

>>718876493
Talk about other Hitman games if you want
I never finished Contracts, I feel like the game frontloads all its best missions. Everything after Beldingford Manor just feels kinda eh

>>718876650
no current gen victoria model
none of the targets even fire bazookas

>>718876737
I get that, the remade Chinese levels from C47 feel kind of disappointing. Real shame Dartmoor pales in comparison to Beldingford, even if they made a moodier, rainy version of the map the mansion grounds are much less expansive

>>718866026
Colorado reminds me too much of Absolution and therefore is the worst mission in the game.

>>718877052
Absolution's vibe wasn't bad, it was just too railroaded and the story's premise was pretty shit. I liked how Colorado brought back that rural Americana vibe for a mission.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGj6s48RyQE

>>718877052
I don't mind Colorado.
>fun easter egg exit
>comfy if not stylish hoodie disguise
>get to drown a treacherous woman in pig shit
>kane and lynch reference
>carusos mother painting reused asset
>scarecrow easter egg
>that one escalation with the stalker
>a sniper assassin variant in the vector

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiMXK9eDrMY

i thought this song was the one that plays in absolution instead of black bandana. did i just have a personal mandela effect or did ioi use it in some marketing campaign associated with hitman

>>718875448
Let me think, it's been a while. For the Delgado mansion I usually use the hole by the front door, then hug the right side wall until I reach the staircase that leads down to security's break room and up to the second floor balcony. There's a maid by the balcony but she should be looking at the railing and a butler inside the bedroom, knock them out and then use coin lures to clear the way to Rico's office. There should be just one guy inside, I'm not sure on if he gets found if you hide him inside the bathroom behind the office, same with Rico, so it may be safer to take them to the previously cleared bedroom. Then back to ground level and go for the plantation tunnel. There's probably a much more efficient path using the mines but I don't go there much

>>718875568
I know how to get them I just never did when I originally beat all the games.

>>718878818
the basement IT room on this map is so comfy

>>718879248
justice for dino

>>718879298
knowing how the targets are all badguys he probably has some "hes a rapist!!11" backstory that didnt make it into the game

>>718872584
People discovered that if you timed it right, you could tranq dart someone and headshot them and it'd count as a poison kill

>>718879393
nah i think the being a rude auteur was supposed to be enough for us to want him dead

>>718876618
>hitmango
I liked it (here's your airport level bro) but I thought Lara Croft Go was better. It is very much a puzzle game.

>>718867354
>Then on the other hand, you have dumb stuff like 47 disguising himself as a specific wrestler and NOBODY sees through it even though it's one specific guy and not just a general uniform.
Don't forget him taking off his mask in the ring with all the audience around

>>718867437
Go touch some grass you brainfried retard

>>718879393
He challenged his (((financial backers))) and had to be eliminated.
But seriously, they could have given him an Alec Baldwin backstory where his negligence killed another actor on set before hand and he got away, so the relatives want revenge.

>>718872710
You forgot that it only had like three actual Hitman maps and the rest was linear hide and seek infiltration shit

I recently fucked around in h3 and doing kill everyone on highest dif (yeah i know WOW how original) and if i remember correcly pretty much every targets elimination was ?justified? like they did some shitty thing and suck or were there some neutral guys or even good guys ? It has been year or more since i finished the story + any games similar to hitman i already played older ones.

>>718879507
Crazy how we went from Hitman Go to Hitman WoA being on cell phones in just 10 years. Technology is incredible!
though where is it IOI, summer's almost over

>>718879506
i guess IOI really hate RDJ/marvel and its some inside joke

>>718872791
I am not the anon you are arguing with, but I objected to the always online bullshit since the first day and I wrote that in every single survey, right until they stopped sending me surveys.
But I also voted for keeping separate camera circuits. After that I became a cynic.

Is there a mod that adds Jesper Kyd to the game yet?

>>718871715
There are a bunch of things I disliked about SA in Blood Money. Being caught in illegal areas and getting shot at is fine as long as you're in your suit, because it doesn't count as blowing a disguise if you aren't in disguise. You also have "accidents = free kills" so you can get spotted and just knock the witness out, then chuck them over a rail.

Also, in general I just dislike the notion of
>deliberately set off loud alarm to break AI
>using huge explosion distractions
and still getting SA. SA should pretty much mean being a ghost.

>>718879787
>Spoiler.
watched a whole gamescom slop stream thinking there'd be an announcement
IOI baited me good

>>718879773
It's a bit iffy because the Providence partners that the whole story centers around actually don't really seem to have personally done anything wrong as far as we know. 47 and Grey only want to kill them because they were sort of indirectly responsible for the shit that happened with Ortmeyer or something as far as I can tell

Woke game.

>>718881250
>playing with enforcer indicators
lmao you probably also play with camera grids, instinct and all other indicators.

>>718880235
>>718879773
Most of the targets are criminals in some form or the other. Off the top of my head
Paris - spies selling stolen info
Sapienza - Francesca I think is at least neutral. She's not really doing anything worse than the engineers at weapon manufacturers. Silvio at least killed his mom.
Marrakesh - fraud/coup
Bangkok - Cross is a murderer. Ken is "only" an asshole lawyer, but I think there were strong implications that they do illegal things to get their case wins.
Colorado - terrorists, even Graves
Hokkaido - yakuza
Hawke's Bay - terrorist
Miami - weapon dealers
Colombia - drug dealers
Mumbai - terrorists
Whittleton - Cassidy I don't think has anything other than working for Providence. He did break into that one house to use their attic.
Ambrose - terrorists
Sgail - killing a bunch of natives
New York - fraud or whatever the deal was with that report they were looking for
Haven - nothing really. just collateral damage in the way to get to the partners
Dubai - partners
Dartmoor - partner
Berlin - assassins
Chongching - working for assassins
Mendoza - Yates did illegal stuff, but I dont know what Vidal did beyond working for providence.
Carpathians - constant

>>718863536 (OP)
Reminder

>>718881534
This is my first time playing the game, but I think now that I found out it is woke, I will stop and uninstall it. Waste of $20.

>>718881543
>Haven - nothing really.
You mean apart from helping actual criminals get away and get filthy rich in the process?

>>718881534
explain how you are supposed to tell who is an enforcer without those indicators or the minimap

>>718881647
>a AAA game from 2016+ is woke
No shit?

>>718881729
How about situational awareness and caution?

>>718879847
To be fair that's mostly gaming the system. If you aren't aware of those quirks the rating system, while flawed, does a good enough job at making sense

>>718881647
You must be trolling because someone like you would have already stopped at the disclaimer.
Then again, if you're a chud you're most likely funcitonally illiterate anyway, so you might just have missed it.
Oh wait, you're on Playstation, so you're an actual nigger. Very well, carry on Tyrone.

>>718863536 (OP)
the change to the weapons system kills the entire game for me. I preferred buying guns and attachments for cash in blood money, I just wanted like 5x more guns and mods to amass and play with

>>718881741
Hitman is AA at best. Have you seen the cutscene quality? I would've failed my high school animation class with animation that bad.

>>718881625
bizarre selections
curious about the thought process behind this beyond "the colorful ones are gay obviously"

>>718881543
>>718881678
Interesting

BUT NOW THE QUESTION OF THE ALL any games that are like Hitman ? (already played older ones)

>>718881804
Those do nothing. There's no way to identify who is capable of detecting you before they detect you unless you enable at least one of those indicators

>>718882363
You're just supposed to restart the mission every time you get caught, like a pro!

>>718882363
I remember ww2 game where only way somebody could see throught your disquise was if the invidual was higher military rank than you (i think it was only that or did the same rank as you detect you too?)they couldv used that shit

>>718874686
>even Peacock won't fucking let me play the McGregor mission
What is the fucking point of having a mod that is meant to fight against IOI stealing your money if you're just going to support them doing it anyways?
God I fucking hate this world. Nothing can be logical, it's all just fucking leftists all the way down.

>>718882363
There's a distinct sound and even without the icons you get a direction. Just don't be retarded, retard.

>>718879773
You're supposed to hate them because rich and white, that's it basically.

WoA has an annoying habit of moralizing your kills against all targets that I can't think of any game except maybe H2:SA having. Granted, yeah, the targets were all morally dubious in some way but there wasn't this "just make sure you remember how much GOOD you're doing by doing this, 47" attitude, just more of assassination being something that would likely happen to people in the criminal/terrorist underworld or otherwise.

>>718882912
Yeah i know hitman was kinda ish always like that i wish there was an assassin game where you were well just an assassin killing good/neutral/bad people for cash no all this grand conspiracy bullshit.

>>718879847
>SA should be pretty much being a ghost
It is if you aren't gaming the system, but I still like it better than WoA's system which is also very gameable but doesn't account for leaving evidence in any capacity at all.

I also just miss blood trails being something NPCs could spot from BM, and 2016 having guards check destroyed cameras and being able to hear and see somewhat, but lol gotta make the game good for SASO runs.

>>718882534
Death to Spies, probably.

>>718882912
Many of the targets were literally "they associate with the main target and might know something, so eliminate them".
I can't see that as being a justified kill in any way and I always felt bad taking them out.

>>718883017
It's annoying when you can tell the really lefty shit leaks in. One of the Elusive Targets was a guy who's kinda lazy when doing inspections so you gotta kill him so his lack of care doesn't lead to more deaths. But they also make sure to let you know how much LANDLORDS love him and that the LANDLORD association bankrolled his legal defense.

Also, just to make sure you REALLY hate him they constantly make him reference this old TV show he likes, which is a "bit un-PC" and he notes that he thinks the main female character is attractive, but also that he thinks she has great comedic timing. Only some really lefty guy could actually seethe at that specific line, for everyone else he just likes older humor (most normal people do, before Obamunism ruined everything) and that he has the audacity to think that a woman is both funny and attractive!

>>718882715
Giving access to actual paid content through your mod is a good way of getting a DMCA to knock on your door

>>718883021
I think it's more catering to speedrunners than anything else. There's no point at which leaving cameras active will prevent you from getting SASO, it just makes it take a bit longer

>>718883421
What they're doing already is very DMCA-able, actually pretty much any modification is, from a legal perspective. Companies generally don't do it because it's a really bad look.

>>718883082
No this was more you control an entire squad and they all had their own class there was an german ?sniper? (who hid that he was german) and i dont remember others but there was one guy whose entire thing was that he could sneak and disquise himself it was fun game.
>>718883338
Well i do remember seeing kill all men mission on Escalations and it was like after few scrolls to the left so not hard to find but i dont remember seeing kill all women tho but i didnt bother to look so idk

Peacock adding it in would literally be them helping users pirate
As it is, IOI have a very strict fucking limit on what they'll peacock to do and have threatened to DMCA them before over the escalations always being available

>>718883885
Well at least we have Contracts mode for the community to give us "kill all women" and "kill all niggers."

>>718884120
Fuck i worded it wrong i meant Contracts not Escalations ****************

>>718879484
Poison has some weird issues. I like how emetics are still like a 50/50 chance of working if the NPC is in any kind of state other than neutral, at all.

>start freelancer
>realize there's no SA indicator
so uh, for the missions that you pick to do SA on, how the fuck do you know if you broke SA or not

>>718885975
It shows that you failed the objective.

>>718863536 (OP)
i really only ever got into the first and second level but especially the first leve, i spent like 40 hours in that alone. everything after didnt feel the same. is it just me being retarded or are the levels after actually worse?

>>718887049
You can do pretty much anything in one level, so once you exhaust everything in it, every other level just feels like more of the same.
It's why they took down the free Sapienza promo version so quickly, they realized it wasn't increasing sales because people played it to exhaustion and felt satisfied with just the one level.

>>718887049
Paris (assuming you mean the first proper level and not the first two tutorial ones) was designed with the idea of one new level every 3 months or so but with a lot of content in it over that time
so shit like escalations, side missions, etc
The later levels after Saipenza did away with that because faggots thought the only way to play Hitman was SO/SA and never bothered with extra playthroughs

You can also just not try to do all challenges/escalations/side missions in each level since that will wear you out fast

>>718874686
i pirated it and use peacock and its available

>>718887578
The escalation is available, but the arcade and cosmetics are not.

>>718887625
>but the arcade and cosmetics are not
who gives a fuck?

>>718887625
arcade works for me. i unlocked the items in freelancer too that go on the left-specific wall for them

>>718887847
If you pirated the game you likely also pirated all the DLCs. Peacock makes any DLCs you have available.
Only legit players get screwed by McGregor's raping dong.

Why are there no other games like Hitman?

>>718887928
just pirate the fucking game paypig

>>718887928
its one of those games even if i bought the deluxe version with most content, i'd pirate it and use peacock anyways. its a good game but the always online stuff is really shitty

>>718886878
It's gonna hurt!
H. K. Hitman Kong is here!

>>718887512
Splitting from Square Enix was a mistake. H2 and H3 feel like indie games almost compared to how well done the first game's levels are and how much polish they have. Square also provided all the animators for quality cutscenes instead of the still images of 2 or the dogshit in-game cutscenes with manual animations in 3.

>>718864958
It was even worse in Absolution where reloading a checkpoint reset all those scripted convos, even if you saved the checkpoint after they were done

>>718890292
By the time H2 rolled out the big thing was literally 'grass and a suitcase'

I think the biggest problem with 2 (and to an extent 3) is they just had no idea what the fuck made Hitman work anymore. Like originally it was 'we consider the design and how a player might navigate it so we don't want to have say, a room with 8 rooms where 5 are useless but we don't have to only have one room with everything useful in there'

In Hitman 2 the only level I think that was done well was New York bank. Everything else seems to have some massive obvious gaping flaws. Sgail or whatever the fuck it is considered 'good' but when you look at it objectively, it's pretty basic black bitch in the two targets having very specific paths that you can kill them on. While you can argue that the same could be said for New York, at least you can get the fucking bitch to move from her office.

>>718890292
>be with Square
>game is always online and episodic, but blame Square being assholes
>more budget
>cutscenes better
>AI better
>SA/SO fags haven't ruined everything yet
>split from Square
>game gets noticeably worse
>IO pretends to be small indie company pls understand
>but they still are extremely jewy, force you to buy H1 and H2 again in H3, still always online, "we don't agree with Connor McGregor so we're taking him out of the game. No refunds," dogshit side content, maps that still have X-ray walls and are extremely buggy, DMCAing mod makers

It's like the worst of both worlds with them.

>>718873893
No, I think I won't be taking orders from a currynigger

>>718890898
sar less of the evil raycism

>>718883893
>helping users pirate
>a thing that IO doesn't offer for sale anymore
>and in fact, if you did pay for it, they will not give you a refund

Maybe they shouldn't have pirated people's money first.

>>718892882
Anon, if you bought it, you can play it

>>718890898
>t. bet on the home team

>>718892882
its available if you bought it before it was taken down. i read for ps5 if your friend owns it they can 'lend' it to you too

>play freelancer
>it's another moment of the guard from the story mission decides to warp into a random point because programming Freelancer to not be buggy was too hard