Thread 718884582

why do all AAA games look like this now?

Because modern gamers consider it a game design flaw if you don't do things the same exact way every other popular game does something.

Consoles. Controllers need to easily access every menu.

"Engagement advisors" who have boiled game design down to hard data and know exactly what's popular and sells.

>randomized loot gear and level progression
>open world
name a better combo.

>>718884860
who?

>>718884582 (OP)
It's probably some shit that came from mobile games, it helps to sell boosters, passes, etc

>>718884582 (OP)
believe it or not, Jews.

>>718884989
isnt that your answer to anything negative?

>>718884582 (OP)
For me, the most retarded feature everyone accepted is the cursor for gamepads, like why?

>>718884582 (OP)
Unironically dark souls 2 started this trend. It was cool at the time

>>718884582 (OP)
because braindead UI/UX designers have zero imagination and can only copy what they see in other AAA slop

>>718885030
But it's true. Especially for things related to the gaming industry.

>>718885547
look here incel it's a living

>>718884582 (OP)
it's called UX
a bullshit job where you try to make every game look completely fucking identical

all cars look the same
all buildings look the same
all movies look the same
all music sounds the same

>>718884582 (OP)
Skill trees are absolute cancer in game design.

If you have a skill tree, it gives players the option to choose what upgrades they want, which sounds good in theory.... but it means the level design has to be done in such a way that it's so plain and boring that everyone can get through it without getting stuck because they accidentally chose the wrong upgrade in the skill tree.

My friend complains about modern luxury sportscar design and how it's become this incestuous clusterfuck because the same engineers / designers get traded around by all the manufacturers, resulting in all the cars looking a lot more similar than they used to. I imagine a similar thing goes on in the vidya industry.

>>718890013
There's a lot of homogenisation going on with big budget games. They all copy each other because publishers are terrified of letting developers do what they want.
So everything is designed to a list of things compiled by market analysts and other dick heads who don't even play video games in the first place.

>>718889442
>UI/UX
not a real job. it will never be. these faggots' entire job is randomly switching up stuff to justify their worthless paychecks, then fabricating metrics to fool the boomer middle decrepit managers into thinking that things are improving
they're about as helpful as used car salesmen

>>718884582 (OP)
>why do all AAA games look like this now?

>>718884582 (OP)
because thats what sells according to their marketing research

>>718884989
every thread has to get nuked because some schizo can't go five minutes without dragging his weird blame game into everything. touch grass, dude.

>>718884582 (OP)
It's because of Warframe and Destiny but I like it

>>718884582 (OP)
one step closer to the homogenization of civilization

>>718894549
these menus and navigation and endless little mods are NPC core

>>718894549
no pubes? why bother posting this garbage?

Is it me, or are these actually really shitty and hard to navigate?
What's wrong with just a vertical list of all of the options?

>>718895657
Vertical lists aren't what's in, OLD MAN!

>>718884582 (OP)
because games today are made by the same mediocre software devs that cycle through netflix/hulu/facebook/instagram/etc.

>>718895657
project managers love to say "make it look like this [common standard] and anything else is out of scope" without considering the functionality. it's done because every dev does it and no one working on AAA games sees it as more than a job so theyre not gonna speak up about it. Meet your KPIs, collect your paycheck, no one cares enough to go through the bureaucracy that would be involved in disputing a feature.

>>718895815
It's a shame even Expedition 33 has this ass menu design. That was supposed to be the good one.

>>718884582 (OP)
>now
>all of those games came out 5 years ago.

>>718884582 (OP)
>mobile ports
>console ports

>>718884582 (OP)
>now
The paper-doll-style inventory/equipment interface has been around for decades.

because all the good UI/Menu designers quit, were laid off or exited the game industry ages ago, and now all that's left is netflix web app graduates and this is what they know how to do

>>718884582 (OP)
because they know that rpg's create artificial playtime and allow you to reuse assests without making any significant changes so that players can feel like they're doing something different even when it's only marginal upgrades.

This started back in Farcry 3, they found out you can just put on a skill tree, call it "Skyrim with Guns" and people will eat it like the fat pigs they fat are. fat.

>>718884582 (OP)
At least some indie games have gone back to being cool. Similarly decent in game UI too.

>>718884582 (OP)
Because devs don't even design their own UIs, instead they outsource it often those who design those UIs don't even know for what game it even is for. The worst part is that those new UIs are often less functional than the than the old stylized ones. Simple functions that could have been done with a classic menu are now buried God knows where

>>718884582 (OP)
Reddit.

>>718894371
>ask question
>get assblasted when you hear the answer

>>718884582 (OP)
>A-ARE THOSE QUADRILATERAL SHAPES? IN *MY* VIDEO GAME UI???
>AIEEEEEEEEE I'M GOING INSANE

>>718884582 (OP)
Honestly because they're designing an inventory screen to be clear on TVs and work with a controller. Most just don't bother making a seperate system to take advantage of mouse control for the PC version. But some do. For example here's BG3 when using a controller.

>>718900238
And here's an example BG3 inventory screen for PC using mouse.

>>718884989
Kys nigger faggot.

Because your average consumer is a retard.

>>718884582 (OP)
Streamlining and casualization of all aspects of games is the worst thing to happen in the medium, and it's been happening since Ocarina of Time came out.

I blame americans

>>718884965
She inherited halo as a franchise and she wanted to turn it into her own star wars cash cow
Doubling down on divisive decisions, never being able to read the room and misjudging on purpose fans expectations.

>>718903185
Which game was the first under her direction?

>>718884726
I just don't get these retarded posts. Consoles have been around for 40+ fucking years, and they are even comparatively less popular now than they ever were.

No, games haven't always looked like this because "muh consoles" you fucking stupid brown PC gaming tourist playing on a laptop

>>718900285
That's a mod you stupid nigger

>>718900106
go back

>>718904504
The time consoles have existed =/= the time consoles have been the dominant target for computer games

>>718884582 (OP)
The real answer is UI design went from being created by actual artists to match with the themes and design principles of their game to being outsourced to designated "UX specialists" who just incorporate the most generic, soulless, dumbed down UI to be as accessible and inoffensive as possible.

>>718884582 (OP)
If a game has this menu scheme, I get a free "I-know-this-game-is-shit" pass. I don't even need to watch reviews. It just goes straight past the radar and into the trash. No time wasted at all. It's a really efficient system.

>>718904792
PC gaming is more popular than it's ever been you stupid nigger.

>>718885235
Kek, it's nothing like that at all. Why are you like this? Everything is Dark Souls this, Dark souls that. God damn, God forbid talking about things that are actually bad, nah, fuck that. Lets talk about Dark Souls again!!!

>>718904792
>PC gaming more popular than ever and devs are catering to it
>HURR DURR CONSOLES DID THIS!!!
holy fuck you are retarded and should kill yourself

>>718897931
is this a banquet for fools? is it fun?

>>718904702
I mean okay? Point still stands. I bothered to go take an unmodded screenshot just for you. Still doesn't look anything like the OP or >>718900238

>>718900285
>>718905475
To be fair, that game got a ton of praise for breaking the mold. If anything it is the exception that proves the rule.

>>718903185
Ok but how is she relevant to this thread?

>>718884582 (OP)
Because it's been "figured out".

>>718904927
The amount of people playing PC games is a separate statistic from the fractional dominance of console games on the video game market

>>718898098
at some point someone decided rotated squares the end all, be all for icon shapes

>>718905753
He's been posting that image in tons of threads. It wasn't related to the conversation.
Though, you could argue that what his post is about is a symptom of the same issue this thread is about. I doubt that was his intention.

>>718905838
its insane how shit the menues are you just posted the first screenshot is acceptable (barely) the rest is just shit tier ui

>>718884582 (OP)
When it's AAA the answer is always jeets
Go make a burner on Twitter and start talking shit about the UI, you'll see a river a shit and SAARS flood in to defend it while trying to also brag about their experience in video game UIX design

>>718906336
why are you on a burner arguing about UI. do you not see that you're a white jeet?

>>718884582 (OP)
>>718898098
>>718905838
It’s like investors and upper management heard people loved Dead Spaces minimalist UI, googled what minimal means, then demanded the devs do that

>>718898098

ass cancer

>>718884582 (OP)
>WHY MENU LOOK SAME
what is it supposed to look like, retard? this is like complaining that all wheels are round and that game devs are too woke for square wheels.

>>718884582 (OP)
The Cyberpunk one looks appropriate for the game's aesthetics.

>>718906696
Which appropriately enough if bleak and dystopian.

>>718905994
>fractional dominance of console games on the video game market
Which has also decreased significantly you absolute shit for brains. Just stop talking already, you're a fucking dumbass.

>>718906230
>He's been posting that image in tons of threads. It wasn't related to the conversation.
im gonna bet that it might be the same anon thats been making Halo hate threads lately unprompted.

>>718906671
I assume he's lamenting the decline of Skeuomorphic UI.

>>718884582 (OP)
>now
has been like this for a decade retard, AC Unity in 2014, Witcher 3 in 2015, The Division in 2016, Dark souls 3 in 2016, RDR2 and God of war in 2018 etc
>>718900238
there's no difference between your shitty UI and the ones in OP pic retard

>>718884582 (OP)
The Guy Stats Menu Screen is indeed fairly souless, what would you do to fix it?

>>718884989
I believe it because its true

>>718907091
for one thing the Guy doesn't have to be there on almost any of these, it looks like only the one in the middle actually even has access to visible worn gear on this screen, and half of them are stock characters that never change anyway. these look like they were designed by the marketing team. "IP must be on screen at all times!"

>>718907091
remove the involvement of any browns, homosexuals, and semites

>>718907082
>there's no difference between your shitty UI and the ones in OP pic retard
You can't read

gobalhomo hates soul

>>718884582 (OP)
>500 million dollar budget UI

>>718884582 (OP)
not a single good game in pic related

>>718884582 (OP)
>see your gear
>see what your gear looks like
>see the stats of your gear and compare it
>see your characters stats
>all on the same screen
It's efficient but lacks soul.

My gut instinct tells me that menus have been ruined in RPG games because they're not built around dragging and dropping things with a mouse. Even then there's some element of creativity bankruptcy, I don't deny that.

The people who work in UX design are hilariously unimportant who act like they're important, yet they have jobs to just ruin everything aesthetically appealing about gaming.

>>718884582 (OP)
Stop playing shit games, I can't even remember the last time I played a game that had UI/menus even remotely near this.

>>718907489
They'll have to reverse this trend eventually, when these logos have literally zero room left for reduction but those marketing execs still need to justify their salary

>>718907232
fucking love king's bounty.

>>718894549
goonerbait

>>718884582 (OP)
UI needs to be dumbed down for consoles and their gamepads.

>>718884726
This.

>>718904504
>Consoles have been around for 40+ fucking years, and they are even comparatively less popular now than they ever were.
That's a non-argument. If you plan to release a game for console, at all, then the UI/UX must be usable with a console's controller.
You cannot deliver a UI/UX tailored for keyboard & mouse, and release it on console. It simply cannot work. The game would be unplayable.
You either have to cater to the lowest common denominator, or to abandon that denominator completely.

>>718884582 (OP)
Destiny won a bunch of awards for its UI (which was fine and worked stylistically with that IP) so everyone and their dog decided to copy them.

>>718894549
>dog
you just know

Like everything else they've optimized their way into the same thing. Like all sea creatures evolving into crabs.

>>718904504
Because once consoles and PC were very distinct ecosystems. You actually begin to see UI issues when they began to overlap in significant enough numbers.

>>718907232
>>718912404
King's Bounty probably gives anxiety attack to modern UI designers. They made sure to fuck it up in the sequel.

>>718885235
ever heard of world of warcraft?

>>718914461
know what?