Thread 718888820

Play Fallout 4

I have about 700 hours in that game. Unmodded :)

>>718889802
N..no way

>>718888820 (OP)
What is Todd's opinion on the London game? I can't play it until I know what he thinks of it.

>>718888820 (OP)
antique gun with antique ammo? Because they literally don't make revolvers like that anymore, the snapping point to hold the gun closed is just too weak for modern ammo.

I can't play Bethesda games, I feel like a rat chasing a reward on a maze without walls.

>have to colect stupid junk for settlements
>always overencumbered
>borderland-esque random weapon stats
>doesn't even show you comperative stats to your current weapon, have to go into the menu to compare
>gay writing overall
No I'll pass

>>718888820 (OP)
I will once they make it a good game.
When will that be, Todd?

>>718890746
>have to colect stupid junk for settlements
Even in vanilla this isn't a problem as you can simply buy everything you need or get settlers to collect trash.
>borderland-esque random weapon stats
What? Gun stats are always the same and legendary effects are a mix of unique items from NV and enchantments from Skyrim
>>718890947
They will be adding even more paid mods for Fallout 4 soon

>>718888820 (OP)
Already am
Just finished Nuka World in my latest playthrough
Really wish the Raider Radio had more music, Redeye is something else

>>718891129
>Even in vanilla this isn't a problem as you can simply buy everything you need or get settlers to collect trash.
That only grabs a few random items per day, and quickly stops grabbing items.
There's a bunch of shit that you'll be missing from rarer items if you rely on scavenging stations.
>What? Gun stats are always the same and legendary effects are a mix of unique items from NV and enchantments from Skyrim
FO4 guns gain magic damage values from receivers which make no sense, plus most of your damage will be from perks also which isn't how Fallout is supposed to work.
And legendary effects are straight out of Skyrim/Oblivion which also breaks the setting and game balance.
If you get an explosive/wounding pipe weapon at low levels it will outperform end-tier guns.

>>718888820 (OP)
I'm waiting for commonwealth slavers to get it's next update.

>>718891425
>There's a bunch of shit that you'll be missing from rarer items if you rely on scavenging stations
Collecting rare resources is not a problem since they weigh little and you can just highlight them. Or you can still just buy them.
>FO4 guns gain magic damage values from receivers which make no sense, plus most of your damage will be from perks also which isn't how Fallout is supposed to work.
It doesn't make sense but it works fine in terms of gameplay. Besides Fallout has always had this “magical” damage from perks and different weapons dealing different damage while using the same type of ammo
Fallout 4 is definitely more gamey but Fallout has always been like that

Fallout 4s basically a looter shooter. The mid to endgame becomes mowing down legendary enemies hoping to get good legendary drops to take out the bloated bulletsponge enemies.

>>718892051
>Collecting rare resources is not a problem since they weigh little and you can just highlight them. Or you can still just buy them.
There's random shit like nuclear material, gold, etc that can be hard to deliberately find or buy. You just sort of stumble across it when you shove your pockets full of trash.
>It doesn't make sense but it works fine in terms of gameplay.
It doesn't work fine for gameplay at all, that's the issue. A wounding automatic pipe rifle will outperform assault rifles, miniguns, SMG's.
RNG across an explosive minigun or combat shotgun and the only thing that's remotely going to get in your way is the infinite-level-scale enemies.
Fallout has never had magical damage from perks, the classics had some that added 1-2 damage per attack, but that's absolutely nothing compared to FO4's nonsense.
Weapons using the same ammo but different damage also was more sensible as they were DIFFERENT weapons of the same class, more advanced rifles or unique variants with visual uniqueness.

I don't really like the atmosphere or the designs of the guns and armor unfortunately. And I don't like the story or the exploration. I also don't like the music in this one which sucks because I liked the music in all of the other games i played, 1, 2, 3, nv, tactics. some of the companions were cool but i don't think they all had quests which was weird. deacon was cool. and nick ofc is great. the far harbor dlc was really solid too. nuka world sucked imo, but i liked the worldspace. oh i also did like kellogg and the radiation guns are awesome, i always used them and got the perk to make them better.

>>718892687
For some dumbass reason they added a bunch of obscure shit like the Radium Rifle being a Volksturmgehwer.
If it was a unique weapon ingame that'd be fine but no apparently hundreds upon hundreds of years post WW2, Americans are rebuilding super rare nazi rifles into radiation guns.

>>718890453
ok autist amerimutt we get it you live in a ghetto country

I never liked in fallout the bits of music where the trumpets are going cause it just seems to drone on for a bit too long and cuts through everything else, maybe an autism thing

>>718890453
I am so happy every game with guns make /k/ommandos angry.

>>718892268
>infinite-level-scale enemies
Very rare and not a problem unless you use one of the exploits to get a high level early on
>Fallout has never had magical damage from perks
>he classics had some that added 1-2 damage per attack
That's literally it, magical damage
>but that's absolutely nothing compared to FO4's nonsense
Anon, maxing out your guns skill in Fallout 3 and NV gives the same result as maxing out your gun perk level in Fallout 4
>Weapons using the same ammo but different damage also was more sensible as they were DIFFERENT weapons of the same class
Anon...
This is all just a massive cope. Yes, Fallout 4 made the game feel more gamey, but it's not as different from previous games as everyone wants to think

>>718888820 (OP)
>fanning the hammer with that vertical recoil
>hit absolutely fucking nothing

10/10

I didn't like the "fantasy" songs in FO4. They just so obviously out of place when playing with the real old songs.

I would if I could get my mods working, the fucking trannies who made these guides are braindead retards who put conflicting information in their instructions.

>>718888820 (OP)
I did. I liked building up settlements into firebases and slowly colonizing the wasteland under my banner

>>718892992
>It's another bethestard not paying attention to context and subtlety
Yes yes, a single special-event BB gun in FO1-2 is totally the same as every single firearm in FO4 operating with fucking Diablo logic.
You're so clever!
Now let the adults talk about the classic 90's RPG series.

>>718892687
>I don't really like the atmosphere or the designs
this is what really ruins it. say what you will about the writing being bad or skills being removed, fallout 4 just isn't cool looking. that works against it even if you don't care about roleplaying at all

>>718890453
>>718892883
It even has a silencer because the author hates tacticool faggots who bitch about realism

>>718888820 (OP)
try and force me, see what happens

>>718893101
Absurdly based

how about you play a real game bitch boy

>>718893069
>You don't understand it's not the same thing!
Fallout has never been realistic and has never even attempted to be. It has always been just an RPG and guns were chosen and balanced based on how cool they are

>>718893326
>Bethestard can't read the added E on the weapon name
Lol.
Lmao.
They're confirmed illiterate?

>>718892785
oh yeah it's weird they chose that as the base, it was fun to use tho. maybe someone found a cache of them buried in a vault or something?
>>718893098
i think what also kinda annoyed me was the whole like unique and legendary situation, idk it just all felt like some sort of proto skinner box thing? i think they should've included fo4 modularity but also kept uniques from previous games that have their own special models and stats. best of both worlds maybe? and armor idk, i want to blame the lack of armors i like on modularity but idk if that's really the complete reason. maybe the art direction was just lacking somewhere.

>>718893101
This guy and his friends made a ton of really good mods.

https://next.nexusmods.com/profile/DegenerateDak/mods

i already did. on hardcore mode with no fast travel. its a standard video game that was bland as hell. new vegas was way better.

>>718893098
>fallout 4 just isn't cool looking
skill issue

>>718893372
>oh yeah it's weird they chose that as the base, it was fun to use tho. maybe someone found a cache of them buried in a vault or something?
That's part of the reason FO4 is so badly written, there's no thought put into anything.
>Why is X happening?
>Eh who cares, they found it in vault 69 because some rich guy buried it there
>But that's a stupid excuse
>Oh and jet is pre-war now

>>718893370
Fallout 4 guns also change their names depending on the receiver

>>718893643
>He's still shilling FO4, poorly
Yes yes FO2 had weapon upgrades, they actually changed things aside from just slapping extra damage on the weapon
If you'd actually play FO2 you'd know the HPFA turns the FAL into a gun that has to fire shitloads of ammo per turn

>>718893528
nta but that's a 76 outfit imported into 4... and admittedly 76 has a bunch of cool clothing. and that gun is idk is that from a mod i'm assuming.

1400h, survival mode and a light amount of mods to make it more interesting
I just like having BoS npcs as a squad of followers and patrolling the wasteland
Last time I did the main story I had Piper, Preston, Curie, and Dogmeat like we were a group of good guy explorers instead of the usual bethesda protag one man army
Kept my stats low so I was easy to kill to balance out all the backup and it was just a fun time
The vanilla game is ass but just like any bethesda game it has potential for fun if you change stuff yourself

>>718893528
>FO4 is cool looking
>Posts things that aren't actually in FO4
What did you mean by that?

>>718893812
I also did this for one playthrough skyrim with mercenary npcs I liked and didn't fast travel. It's the most fun I've ever had with that bland pos
It's the

>>718892785
>>718893372
>>718893592
Volksturmgewehr is more believable than G11, L64, CAWS, or Jackhammer.

>>718893941
>A hyper rare expendable weapon is more believable than a setting that goes to 2070 using schitzo-tech weapons up to and including plasma casters and gatling lasers
You realize Fallout is a science fiction world, right? And that it's timeline is a lot different to ours?

>>718893812
>>718893884

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/14946

If you like having generic faction npcs as a squad then try out FCOM on top of the base factions it's got America Rising 2 Enclave support

>>718893270
doom wad?

>>718888820 (OP)
>download new coomer mods since the last time I played
>update Modern Firearms and my bloatkino settlement mods
>start game
>grab Preston and the gang
>build random shit with new mods in Sanctuary and Red Rocket for an hour
>take screenshots
>spawn a gorillion mobs with Endless Warfare and watch the laser turret lightshow
>game crashes
>lose all will to play
>do it all over again next year

>>718888820 (OP)
>Play Fallout 4
I did, for about 180 hours and it's still trash. Radiant quest slop that threw what makes a Fallout game a Fallout game out the window; with bad art design choices to boot. It is a black mark on the Fallout franchise and should have never been released in the state that it did; insted, Bethesda should have made an actual Fallout game. It's arguably not even a Fallout game but a Fallout themed game.
The only redeeming factor is that the combat is improved a lot from previous installments.
Give me FNV with Fallout 4 combat and I'll be the happiest man alive; and even that can be achieved with mods. FNV makes Fallout 4 seem like a fancy toy for retarded children with adhd. FNV superiority for ever.
FNV>FO3>FO4 full stop. (didn't include 76 cause I have no experience with it at all and don't know what's it like)

>>718889802
>tfw have 160+ hrs without mods
This is my first run, and I wanted an "authentic" experience with the game. It's better than people say, but holy shit, Fallout 4 has the most annoying bugs of any of these games. It's never a funny glitch or an outright crash. It's just some small detail that you won't notice until it's a nuisance later on.

>companions don't dismiss correctly
>companion perks don't work
>companions won't initiate affinity dialogue
>perk effects stack differently based on the order you acquire them
>you can contract mole rat AIDS from a protection being bitten
I'm about to lose 3+ hrs of gameplay because Preston Garvey randomly became completely broken and cannot be interacted with. Can't complete the pending radiants. Can't send his ass to another settlement. Can't beat sense into him. It's just broken for some reason.

>>718895765
>you can contract mole rat AIDS from a protection being bitten
This was the dumbest fucking thing, the Mole Rat AIDS is spread to YOU if a companion is bitten.

>>718893941
>>718894029
The one thing I find the most unbelievable in the entire series is the way 1950s culture and music was still predominant at the time of the war in the 2070s, and somehow around even two hundred years after that for FO3/NV/4. I might have swallowed it if the game's setting had the war happen in 1960, so there'd be an actual reason for the sudden cutoff in media production at that point. But nope, 120 years later and it's still Dean Martin on the weekly top 10. It's almost distracting how it makes zero sense in any form. Even bullshit like the 200 year old food has the in-universe excuse of "lol let's sterilize our canned goods with radiation so they'll keep forever"(the fact that you're somehow the first starving asshole to find it in two centuries is a different story, but whatever).

>>718896114
There's no indication 50's music is common in the wasteland in FO1-2, aside from non-diegetic intro sequences.
It's FO3 where that started, and NV foolishly continued it...I guess NV has the benefit of the doubt being set in Vegas. Then FO4 completely goes full-retard by making all of it's radio songs about radiation and nukes.
Hilariously you can find 200 year old food in FO2, guess what it does when you eat it? It poisons you because it's fucking inedible kek.

>>718888820 (OP)
I have never and will never play fallout 4.
I did install it for fallout london which is an amazing game. Shame its built on the shitty bones of fallout 4 engine. Hands down the worst building system ever made. I am constantly fighting with it to do the simplest of things. Also fuck the retarded 'boss' mechanic.

>>718896267
I guess that just adds another weight to the side of the scale that says it should have ended with the first two games.

>>718896267
>Hilariously you can find 200 year old food in FO2, guess what it does when you eat it? It poisons you because it's fucking inedible kek.

In F4 you can walk into a grocerie store and find perfectly good melons, gourds and carrots still there.

>>718890746
Game massively improves if you ignore nuBethesda's boner for building shit(F4,F76,Starfield)

>>718896267
>>718896558
Whoops my bad, remembered shit wrong. It doesn't poison you. It's outright inedible and your character doesn't even TRY eating it.
>>718896580
Which place has melons/gourds/etc in FO4?

>>718888820 (OP)
I did. Like all bugthesda game, the first 10 mins are the best parts and then it gets worse as you play it.

>>718896715
>Which place has melons/gourds/etc in FO4?

Tons of places. Super Duper Mart is the store Im tlaking about where its an abanded store full of ghouls, but theres still bins full of melons and other stuff for some reason.

But then theres other dumb shit becase of the ranom loot tables you can open safes that havent been opened since before the war and find postwar pipe weapons and vegetables.

>>718896267
Eating pre-war food in Fallout 4 gives you radiation, satisfies hunger and thirst way less than fresh food and makes you way more likely to get sick. Funny enough only NV allows you to eat pre-war food without any negative effects if you use it for crafting Caravan lunch
>>718896938
I'm pretty sure it's next to the Minutemen corpses who died there recently. That Super Duper Mart is fucking empty and only has a few bottles of Nuka Cola on the shelves if I remember correctly.

>>718896267
It only kinda works in NV because Mr. House has the whole Vegas radio thing and he's obsessed with the old world.

>>718897481
>That Super Duper Mart is fucking empty and only has a few bottles of Nuka Cola on the shelves if I remember correctly.

You remember wrong, friendo. And they werent brought in by the minutemen.

>Several melons (not melon plants) can be found inside the Super Duper Mart in Lexington.
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Melon_(Fallout_4)

>>718888820 (OP)
The coom mods are not as good as in Skyrim sadly

Before the war they made fruit and vegetables that dont rot and stay fresh forever. prease understand.

if the minutemen used weapons that werent muskets they would be able to kill a couple ghouls

>>718897656
>>718897814
This box is made of dirty boards with paint residue. It was obviously made after the war and is most likely connected to the corpses nearby.

>>718898108
>>718897814
lol no my man, its just bethesda being retarded and lazy.

>get quest to go find lost BoS patrol that went missing years ago and can only track them by beacons.
>each beacon you find has a fresh BoS corpse next to it, despite dying there years ago

>>718898251
It's literally a copy of the quest from NV

>>718897734
While that's true, I love big tiddy goths and ratchety sluts and they fit in way better in FO4. Pic semi-related

>>718898251
>>718897814
>>718898108
>Canonically the previous minutemen leader died YEARS ago at the fort
>You find his corpse perfectly intact and non-rotten/skeleton
Bethesda can't make good worldbuilding if they had a gun to their heads.

>>718897814
All of Lexington was controlled by the MinuteMen until they fell. Preston even gives a quest for that Super Duper Mart.

>>718895347
>combat is improved
Bethesda had nothing to do with that - both iD and Bethesda operate under ZeniMax. iD did the gunplay. Shame you were still shooting at health bars.

>FNV with 4 combat
Tale of Two Wastelands comes pretty close. The first person shooting mechanics are on point and it doesn't require the use of VATS at all, unlike the original 3 and NV. TTW won't look as pretty, but you can still make it look pretty damn good, considering the game's age.

>>718895765
use console commands to try and fix stuff, bro. one or two commands with presto can save you hours

>>718888820 (OP)
i have 3000 hours in it, it's my favorite game easily, it cracked my egg
thanks so much todd and emil for this masterpiece :)

>>718900883
You're welcome.

>>718893270
>saves his brass
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