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Why doesn't /v/ like rhythm games?
>they are too hard
You don't have to play on the hardest difficulty. Low level charts can be cleared by literal retards.
>no arcades near me/you need an expensive controller
There are thousands of PC and console games designed with keyboards and gamepads in mind. Arcade sticks and hitboxes work really well with most of these games.
>the game and dlcs are expensive
There are plenty of completely free options. Paid games usually come with a decently large song list with the base game. Alternatively, free simulators exist for the popular series.
So, what's your excuse?

>>718895354 (OP)
still waiting for Rhythm Heaven Groove

Plenty of people like rhythm games but there's nothing whatsoever to discuss about them.

>>718895354 (OP)
My eyes or brain can't process the scrolling style rhythm games so that excludes the vast majority
I do like crypt of the necrodancer and rhythm heaven

i luv rhythm games as much as i like sucking dick
i puked on someone once sucking dick

>>718897078
Pretty much this

i turned 30+ and my knees hurt when playing ddr
literally dont know how i ever did jumps

>>718895354 (OP)
>There are thousands of PC and console games designed with keyboards and gamepads in mind. Arcade sticks and hitboxes work really well with most of these games.
It's not the same. VOEZ is the only one that works because touch screens are ubiquitous on phones/tablets.

>>718895354 (OP)
>>no arcades near me/you need an expensive controller
>There are thousands of PC and console games designed with keyboards and gamepads in mind. Arcade sticks and hitboxes work really well with most of these games.
>>the game and dlcs are expensive
>There are plenty of completely free options. Paid games usually come with a decently large song list with the base game. Alternatively, free simulators exist for the popular series.
Cheap Chinese shit doesn't endear people to rhythm games, nor do garbage touchscreen games where you lose full combos more from the device failing to read inputs than from anything else.

I'm lucky I got into rhythm games back when Konami were still making cheap PS2 IIDX controllers for the entry level option.

>>718897367
what was his reaction?

>>718895509
fpbp

>>718897078
I keep seeing threads about short indieslops from years ago. Surely there's more to discuss about an entire genre than those kinds of games.

>>718897927
were married now

Because the majority of soundtracks suck
>shitty J-pop
>shitty electronic remixes of classical music
or worse
>songs with Chinese vocals

>>718898297
Sounds like Fortnite Festival is more up your alley. It has plenty of nigger "music" for you.

>>718895509
Based
Same

>>718898297
You do realize you can find many rhythm games with custom tracks as well so you can get whatever music you want.

Eurobeat songs in SDVX are peak fun

I like Bust a Groove II. Bring back Bust a Groove.

Last Graceful bump

>>718895354 (OP)
But I do like rhythm games. Here's a crappy score clear I did today.
Not very good at them compared to others, but I don't mind, I like the music

>>718898297
This is more of a problem with current rhythm games. Especially the ones by sega
Older rhythm games were filled with stuff normal people could enjoy (for the era it came from, anyway)

>>718897693
You sound like a boomer
The vast majority of People who play rhythm games are doing it on a touch screen and they do it just fine

>>718897509
It depends what level you play. I never went past 13 and a handful of 14's. I'm 33

>>718895354 (OP)
Played groove coaster this weekend T round1. It was great. Any chance of a follow up?

>>718904867
>the vast majority of people play modern movie games and think it's just fine
>the vast majority of people played the demons' souls remake and thought it was just fine
>the vast majority of people buy shitty modern first party controllers with sticks that start fucking up within a few months and think it's just fine
You could not have made a worse argument.

How do you git gud at rhythm games?
No matter the game, I feel like progression always gets absurdly hard at some point and jumps from "tapping the melody and occasionally some drum beats with single keys" to "you're playing the whole damn drum part including fills nonstop while pressing multiple keys" and I can never hang with the later long enough to not instantly fail.

i miss playing ongeki bros...
>Why doesn't /v/ like rhythm games?
because they have gameplay
>>718898297
clone hero/yarg has pretty much every dadrock song in existence
>>718905821
try to break things down to individual skills and work on those. some games have better difficulty curves than others and some games have better practice modes than others but if you're truly getting hardstuck somewhere it means you're probably fraud-clearing charts. when that happens i jump down 2 difficulties and try to s rank every song until im back to where i got stuck

>>718905821
unironically I just kept increasing the scroll speed and something just magically clicks
i think i've hit a limit with my reaction time though so there's definitely only so many times you can do that

>>718906241
What's ongeki like? It's not something you can play in the states, right?

Why the fuck can I not do alternating jacks if they start with my left hand? I’m hitting the same amount of notes at the same frequency with both hands no matter which side starts but for some reason if I have to start with my left it can’t keep up the rhythm.

>>718905821
Depends on the game. Muse Dash and Project Diva are more about the difficulty of visually interpreting the charts than they are the execution compared to IIDX or DJ MAX. In IIDX specifically you have multiple modifiers that are good for training your skills in different ways, particularly the random options. The charts are generally designed with specific rhythms in mind where they try to match the placement of the notes to the beat or the melody and you see the same patterns over and over again, and using random mode throws that out entirely so any note can be in any lane, and that forces you to sight read and learn to play anything that comes up instead of getting used to the same patterns over and over. So when you start hitting a wall in IIDX a good way to improve is to go back to lower difficulty songs and playing them with random turned on.

>>718895354 (OP)
I like sdvx. I don't play any other rhythm games. I used to play pop'n, iidx, and project diva arcade, but I've basically quit everything except sdvx since if I'm in the mood for a rhythm game I gravitate towards it the most.

I've been playing Beatmania IIDX for 4 years and I still can't break into 12s

>>718906435
Are you left-hand dominant? You might be going too fast and it takes you out of the rhythm

>>718904937
Taito is done with the arcade version. They are focusing on consoles now. A new game was just released for the Switch a few weeks ago.

Should I get Fitness boxing 1, Fitness boxing 2, Fitness boxing 3, Fitness boxing fist of the north star or Fitness boxing miku?

>>718895354 (OP)
more like memorization games

>>718906432
Large anime conventions tend to have at least one Ongeki cabinet they haul around running semi-up to date data.
Like the other Sega games it looks complicated but is actually pretty intuitive in practice. Piloting your team around while playing the rhythm is super fun and there's even entire charts that straight up turn the game into a bullet hell with very little button input. One of the biggest hurdles at the start is actually being able to tell when the side purple notes are holds or not, they blend into the playfield quite a bit.

Everything outside of the gameplay is pure unfiltered gacha liveservice AIDS though

do you play multiple rhythm games at once or just focus on one at a time?
i've been autistically fixated on gitadora but i feel bad for neglecting iidx and popn
>>718906435
try practicing with just your hands and a metronome at different bpms
https://youtu.be/mgdHvjJ7ljg?t=91

>>718907270
>have to memorize what button press in what moment
like every game

>>718907214
i wish there was an arcade version of miku boxing with an actual bag

>>718907040
Right hand so I don’t think that’s it. I’ve noticed it’s a bit easier to do even numbered jacks because I can treat LRLRLR like 3 LRs in a row but an LRLRL is like a triple L and an offset double R which throws me off, but even then I have no trouble hitting left hand solo jacks or odd numbered alternates that start with right hand.

>>718907570
try playing osu taiko maybe. there are some chart packs that are just basic alternation patterns

>>718895354 (OP)
This is the only rhythm game that matters

I am playing theatryhthm final fantasy curtain call, it's my first rhythm game since GH3. it's extremely comfy

I mostly like rhythm-blended games, personally. Necrodancer, Hi-Fi Rush, Patapon, Rhythm Heaven, etc. Really hoping the new Rhythm Heaven is good.

>>718906806
I've been playing IIDX for 20 years and I still can't break into 10s

>>718907895
Turn on random NOW

>>718895354 (OP)
>Can press buttons in SDVX like none other, tons of 17 UCs and a few PUC, play 18 speed charts for fun
>Laser skills perpetually stuck in the 15 range due to the retarded negative feedback loop of not wanting to actively practice them because I'm bad at them
Anyone else /fraud/ here

>>718908061
>still stuck on the fucking vita

>>718907895
>>718906806
I played iidx twice on a trip to Japan and i was able to break into 6. Is the difficulty curve that severe?

>>718908325
Everything up until difficulty 8 is just you finding your footing.
difficulty 10 is the real plateau, followed by an even bigger plateau with difficulty 11. you could spend literal years on those two difficulties.

I've been told that the time and effort it takes to get from difficulty 1 to difficulty 12 is nothing compared to the time and effort it takes to get from low-tier 12s to high-tier 12s. The 12s category basically has its own difficulty range within it, it's crazy

>>718907413
I mainly play DJMAX and SDVX, but I also play other VSRGs on the side. The reading and some of the skills transfer between VSRGs, so I don't get too rusty even if I neglect them for months.

>>718907270
Depends on the chart. Most are pure reaction. There's few gimmick ones every once in a while which might require you to study few sections.

For me it's project diva
And customs
But I'm not good enough to do extremes even though I really want to be
I have so much fun playing a game in godawful at
>tfw

>>718908681
my wife...

>>718908325
i'll put it this way, it took me about a month to comfortably clear all 6s. Fast forward a few years later and there are still some 10s I cannot clear no matter what.
Yeah the difficulty curve in iidx utterly fucked at the higher levels, it just gets a point where the density gets so overwhelming that it forces you to really understand exactly what you are doing, where your eyes are looking at, how your hands are positioned, how you are "reading" note patterns. Any the bad habits that you accumulated have to be violently undone with great prejudice.

That or you just end up hitting a genetic wall

How do I git gud at Project Diva? Reading the charts is hard...

>>718898089
Indieslop typically sells itself on its lore and characters, so it will have an audience that will discuss those topics. Meanwhile, rhythm games, although they do usually have a lore no one reads, sell themselves on the gameplay and soundtrack, so typical rhythm game topics of discussion boils
>look how good I am at pressing buttons
>how do i press buttons better?
>My game is harder than yours.
>My song preferences are better than yours
>goonslop that appears on song jacket/bga is my wife
And other similar topics that don't incite the type of discussions that hit bump limits.

Speaking of lore, do you like lore in your rhythm games?

>>718908061
If only this got release in the west, or on any other console. It's a pretty decent game and gets fairly hard.

Thoughts on Maimai?

>>718911186
As much as it hurts to say and hear, play the easier tracks. It'll help you get a feel for where notes might be (both visually on the screen and in the song). Of course it'll depend a bit on which game it is.

Every rhythm game I've played was fun for the first few dozen hours while getting past the "total beginner" stages.
Then the improvement stopped and the fun stopped.
At least for most of them I noticed pretty quickly and dropped the game, but osu! I somehow played for another 600h without ever actually getting better.

>>718913697
For me improvement in my main game hasn't really ever stopped, just slowed down to a crawl.

I love rhythm games

>>718895354 (OP)
Beat Saber is based but Facebook basically killed the studio behind it. Wacca is fun but requires a whole butt arcade machine.

>>718915679
>but Facebook basically killed the studio behind it
How so? All they seem to do is handle licensing.

>>718915984
The core team walked out, basically any VR studio acquisition by Facebook lead to a harsh culture clash and exodus of talent.

>>718915668
i still cant figure out a good home setup for taiko where the drum doesnt shake like crazy

>>718915679
when i was in japan they were giving you 9 songs per credit on the wacca machine.
my hands were in so much pain

Touhou Danmaku Kagura was on sale so I bought it, even if I already own it in Switch. Now I have to get used to keyboard because I can't even beat songs in Hard.

On the other hand, today I played Muse Dash, I can beat Lv11 songs with relative ease with the Silencer elfin.

>>718916003
Beat Saber is their VR money machine. The original devs left only after like 3-4 years after said acquisition. I think it just got stale for the devs, there's not much to improve on the game. Now it's all just new lighting environments for new packs.

>>718897509
I just turned 36 and I'm still playing DDR (Mainly StepManiaX these days, because DDR sucks in comparison)
Your body only falls apart in your 30's if you're not active
Work your way back into it slowly and you will become stronger

>>718907270
If it's memorization then why can I full clear charts the first time I play by sightreading them? Huh faggot? What now??

>>718898297
>shitty electronic remixes of classical music
If you ever as much refer to Beethoven Virus as shitty, I will kill myself and proceed to haunt you for the rest of your life.

>>718913210
It's good. Nothing special. Has a lot of players and the arcade cab gives you extra songs so it encourages interaction with others, i think that's why it's so popular

>>718913210
Personally, I prefer WACCA as my washing machine of choice

>>718915668
I like taiko's drum input but I don't like the UI.

>>718911546
There are also "forbidden" topics in rhythm games
Starting a debate on holding the bar or not in DDR will get you banned from most DDR communities for some reason
Probably because the majority of modern DDR players get their feelings hurt then told they're playing the game in a way that requires less skill.

>>718915934
>over $100 of DLC
Hmmm, no.

>>718916663
Works with cream

>>718916013
Cant help you there since Im playing on keyboard. Maybe one day I will also get a drum, bet its 10 times more fun
>>718916487
I like UI a lot

>>718915679
Wacca beats the shit out of my hands, I can’t help but gorilla slam them into the panels.

the japanese one where you twist the nipples is pretty cool