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Anonymous No.718903116 >>718903251 >>718903345 >>718903414 >>718903586 >>718903873 >>718904059 >>718904240 >>718904257 >>718904284 >>718904361 >>718904582 >>718904632 >>718904634 >>718904646 >>718905292 >>718905743 >>718906260 >>718906265 >>718906668 >>718906719 >>718908532 >>718908608 >>718909754 >>718910023 >>718911293 >>718912635 >>718916420 >>718919273 >>718921020 >>718921269 >>718926408 >>718930436 >>718934794 >>718936251
Behold! I have designed the perfect video game controller.
Anonymous No.718903214
ha ha ha yeah dude go for it
Anonymous No.718903251
>>718903116 (OP)
oh hell nah bruh what the fuck man
Anonymous No.718903265 >>718903353 >>718907718 >>718908269 >>718909589
4 face buttons is enough
Anonymous No.718903345 >>718907656 >>718909375 >>718935054
>>718903116 (OP)
No, pisstation controller shape is perfect
Anonymous No.718903353 >>718908031 >>718928857 >>718935865
>>718903265
6 buttons is superior. It lets you do things like have the B button be the run button in Mario World and then have the A button be spin jump and the C button be regular jump. Much better than the original control scheme.
Anonymous No.718903414 >>718903454 >>718908269
>>718903116 (OP)
>circle d-pad
no
Anonymous No.718903454 >>718903516
>>718903414
bro's never used the Saturn/Genesis 6-button Dpad
Anonymous No.718903516 >>718903594
>>718903454
I wish they made made a 6 button controller with the 3 button d-pad
Anonymous No.718903586 >>718903653 >>718903726 >>718906719
>>718903116 (OP)
>the worst analog sticks ever
>they're also in the wrong spot
What a shame.
Anonymous No.718903594 >>718904035
>>718903516
I know the 3-button controller has some variations but the one I have (the one with the red letters on the buttons and red arrows near the dpad) kinda fucking sucks. Very mushy and not really raised at all.
Anonymous No.718903653 >>718904690
>>718903586
N64 controller's analog sticks in good position are the best ever. There's no stick even nearly as precise as it. It just needs a change to the mechanism to eliminate the plastic dust issue.
Anonymous No.718903664
>right stick on the bottom
Retard.
Anonymous No.718903726
>>718903586
>the worst analog sticks ever
you shut your whore mouth fucking zoomer
Anonymous No.718903739 >>718903771
Stick and Dpad position switched for no reason, DS format is better.
Top face buttons are too small and you are going to end up pressing the ones underneath by accident.
Grips too small and nowhere to put your finger
Some games don't benefit from N64 sticks being locked into an octagon
Xbox button is fugly and start and select too small and cheap
Wired
Anonymous No.718903758
it also needs 4 buttons on the back and a z button as well as LB and RB
Anonymous No.718903771
>>718903739
>Some games don't benefit from N64 sticks being locked into an octagon
I kind of don't care
The games that do benefit from notches benefit a LOT from them
Anonymous No.718903873 >>718903923 >>718906719
>>718903116 (OP)
Remove the octagonal gates.
Anonymous No.718903923 >>718904153
>>718903873
No, fuck you
I like to be able to run in a perfect straight line in 3D Mario games and hold Up on the stick to not fall off Silence in F-Zero X
Anonymous No.718904035
>>718903594
>Very mushy
The rubbed contacts are worn out. I have a couple that are in good condition and they have great tactile feedback. You can get replacements online.
>not really raised at all.
I like the d-pad being recessed. Makes everything more deliberate.
Anonymous No.718904059
>>718903116 (OP)
triple button rows only work in arcades because you use your fingers to press them, not your thumb
you have to redesign the entire thing if you want it to work like that

honestly even the modern "standard" 4 button + arrangement is pretty ergonomically dogshit, it could be so much better
Anonymous No.718904153
>>718903923
Fine keep them on the left stick, but the right needs to be rounded for finer camera movement.
Anonymous No.718904190 >>718904280
OP here, an update
Anonymous No.718904240 >>718905054 >>718906609 >>718910072 >>718910606 >>718911093 >>718912074
>>718903116 (OP)
If you want to go with 6 face buttons just go with pic related design. Sega design is awkward whenever you need to press two buttons at the same time.
Anonymous No.718904257
>>718903116 (OP)
The world's most precise controller
Anonymous No.718904280
>>718904190
Wii U Pro Controller stick layout is based, but those face buttons would be a disaster
Anonymous No.718904284 >>718904395
>>718903116 (OP)
Gulikit has been releasing controllers with the Saturn style dpad and they've all been pretty great. If anyone is gonna make a full featured six button controller, it'll probably be them.
Anonymous No.718904361 >>718904395
>>718903116 (OP)
>no trackpads
Anonymous No.718904395 >>718904635
>>718904284
might actually buy this as a replacement for my kinda worn down Xbox controller, looks great

>>718904361
dang you're kinda right
but not really any room
wonder how the Steam Controller 2 will look
Anonymous No.718904426
why are there no controllers with a slider? like a volume slider but it's free as an imput? you could use it to control your power.
Anonymous No.718904502
Anyone else have a problem with how ugly modern controllers are? I can't stand the flat minimalist vaguely rectangular look they all go for, no contours, no styling.
Anonymous No.718904534 >>718938193
Needs rapid fire toggles.
Anonymous No.718904582
>>718903116 (OP)
GYROSHILLS NEED TO GET KILLED
Anonymous No.718904632
>>718903116 (OP)
I read this post in his voice
Anonymous No.718904634
>>718903116 (OP)
I fucking love the Saturn Dpad. We need to go back.
Anonymous No.718904635 >>718904781 >>718904814
>>718904395
>might actually buy this as a replacement for my kinda worn down Xbox controller, looks great
If you're looking for a replacement to your xbox controller, then they just released the ES Pro, which pretty much a 1:1 xbox controller but with TMR sticks, 1000hz poling rate (wired), and better bluetooth performance than the Dualsense. It can also swap the face buttons and it has a switch mode that wakes up the switch 2. All for 30 bucks. No extra buttons, but if you're gaming on a Series X controller you're used to it.
Anonymous No.718904646
>>718903116 (OP)
>Behold! I have designed the perfect car.
Anonymous No.718904690 >>718904826
>>718903653
>precise
That's because it's literally an order of magnitude less precise than almost any other analog stick ever made
A regular Dualshock has over 32000 positions in each direction, meanwhile the N64 has a theoretical max of 128 but an actual max of 80 and still almost a quarter of that is an outer deadzone
It's also technically not an analog stick at all, it's entirely digital. The N64 joystick is electrically just an old-school ball mouse.
Anonymous No.718904765
joysticks on the shoulders
Anonymous No.718904781 >>718905060
>>718904635
nah but i want that dpad on the other one
Anonymous No.718904814
>>718904635
As good as Gulikit controllers are, they all seem to ommit D-input. It's only ever a toggle for Xbox or Switch mode, which means you can't have full steam input on PC for mappable keyboard buttons and gyro+analog triggers. At the moment only 8bitdo seems to be prioritizing steam input on all their controllers.
Anonymous No.718904826
>>718904690
>A regular Dualshock has over 32000 positions in each direction
doesn't really matter when you can go through half of them in 0.0000000000001 seconds with the lightest push
Anonymous No.718905054
>>718904240
what are c and z for?
Anonymous No.718905060 >>718931780
>>718904781
I've been fiddling around with the Elves 2 and the saturn style dpad is good for rolling, but it's kinda bad for precise diagonal inputs unless you spend a lot of time to relearn how to use it and roll from the every edge of the dish in wide motions. Xbox dish dpad strikes a superior balance, and unlike the Saturn you can easily press from the center in whatever direction you want with 100% accuracy because it doesn't depress.
Anonymous No.718905292
>>718903116 (OP)
6 face buttons don't work on modern controllers because they aren't flat backed. When holding a controller with grips it's deeper in your hand so its harder to cover more distance with your thumbs. On another note the small + large button combination just sucks because it's harder to press 2 of the small buttons at once like you would in a fighting game
Anonymous No.718905743
>>718903116 (OP)
you forgot pressure sensitive buttons
Anonymous No.718905801 >>718905957
Anybody have any recommendations for a good 360 controller?
Anonymous No.718905957 >>718906273
>>718905801
The official Microsoft ones are the best. Failing that the Rock Candy ones are alright. Hyperkin makes one, but I think it only works with Xbone and XSX.
Anonymous No.718906101 >>718906141 >>718906309 >>718909913 >>718910790 >>718918805
>N64 stick
Once mario party came out, these things lasted about a month. They also ripped the skin.
Anonymous No.718906141 >>718906320
>>718906101
You can lubricate it with silicone grease to make it last a lot longer
As for the skin being ripped off, you can fix that by not being fucking stupid
Anonymous No.718906210
you forgot the rumble/memory pak port!!
Anonymous No.718906248
I have never seen an analog stick let me throw rings in that one pokemon stadium minigame with the same precision since playing on an actual N64, or managed to properly walk slow in games without moving too much or too little in another direction since playing on an N64.
It sucks that the stick just fucking dies but no other stick has ever felt that good to use.
Anonymous No.718906260
>>718903116 (OP)
>segays are still a thing in 2025
how?
Anonymous No.718906265
>>718903116 (OP)
why the cancer d-pad though?
Anonymous No.718906273 >>718907295
>>718905957
They no longer make them (which is a shame) and the one's sold online have probably a pretty high chance of being fake.
Anonymous No.718906309
>>718906101
skill issue
Anonymous No.718906320 >>718906396 >>718906774 >>718918805
>>718906141
Other sticks don't need lubrication to not break.
Other sticks don't require proper handling to not hurt you.
I think the N64 stick may not be super good.
Anonymous No.718906396 >>718906434
>>718906320
>Other sticks don't require proper handling to not hurt you
are you 3 years old?
Anonymous No.718906434
>>718906396
Most likely just an American.
Anonymous No.718906609 >>718921164
>>718904240
Its a shame their more expensive controllers aren't 6 button.
Anonymous No.718906657 >>718906804 >>718910546
fixed
Anonymous No.718906668
>>718903116 (OP)
>6 buttons
fuck off
Anonymous No.718906719 >>718921020
>>718903116 (OP)
Dual analog is a bad control scheme and a right trackpad is better for the occasional flickstick-like inputs and gyro.
Dpads are retro shit, just get a fightstick or 2d controller for anything where that's relevant, no point in shitting up the controller so that you can scroll through menus 1 item at a time, replace it with trackpads, buttons or even mousewheels.
Making all the face buttons one size is also retro shit, make one face button comically big to encourage good game design, you can already see bad game design being encouraged by diamond layouts when you look at the new Kirby air riders two buttons disgusting.
Haptic triggers are an over-engineered and fragile meme when dual-stage just werks.
Single body controllers are the realm of 6th gen and below now that wireless is good enough, just use split controllers.
>>718903586
The only right spot for analog sticks is the exact middle of the controller.
>>718903873
That's what tank controls are for, gates are fine.
Anonymous No.718906774
>>718906320
>Other sticks don't need lubrication to not break.
They're already lubricated, Nintendo are just cheap cunts and sold a self-destructing stick and nintendo 64 fans are too inept to develop quality replacements.
Anonymous No.718906804 >>718909442 >>718925951
>>718906657
Anonymous No.718906847 >>718907084
the titan sub could have been saved with this
Anonymous No.718907013
twisting this for steering input would be fire
Anonymous No.718907084
>>718906847
>Ball Fondler 360Β°
Anonymous No.718907171
Anonymous No.718907295 >>718907604 >>718907832
>>718906273
When did this epidemic of fake controllers become a thing? Knockoff controllers have always existed, but when did they start masquerading as the real thing?

Anyways, you can either examine the ebay listings to look for inconsistencies between the listed controller and a genuine one, or you can get one of those Hyperkin controllers.
Anonymous No.718907313
Xbox controllers have the best layout but they really halfass the bumpers. They're creaky as fuck.
Anonymous No.718907512 >>718907547 >>718907582
What games benefitted from having a circle dpad?
Anonymous No.718907547 >>718907582
>>718907512
any fighting game
castlevania sotn (it was on saturn)
Anonymous No.718907582
>>718907512
>>718907547
oh yeah also space shooters
Anonymous No.718907604
>>718907295
>When did this epidemic of fake controllers become a thing? Knockoff controllers have always existed, but when did they start masquerading as the real thing?
>Move all manufacturing to China
>Chinese factory can overproduce or sell anything that doesn't pass the QA demanded by the company they're working with
>No one is going to buy the no-name chinkbrand and being able to dissolve the company is good to avoid lawsuits and liability
Anonymous No.718907656 >>718910819
>>718903345
This 100%. I can play with a DualSense for 20 hours straight and my hands are fine. An hour with an Xbox One controller hurts my tendons using the triggers.
Anonymous No.718907718
>>718903265
>hold button to do action
Anonymous No.718907832
>>718907295
>When did this epidemic of fake controllers become a thing?
When it became profitable. Buying them online makes it harder to detect fake ones. Ten years ago, there were still lots of genuine 360 controllers in circulation, but since MS stopped making them, most of them were removed from the market (as people bought them).
Also, the high price of the new official models might have increased demand in older versions as the 360 gamepad is still pretty decent (aside from the dpad).
Anonymous No.718908031 >>718916785
>>718903353
so the other 3 buttons do what?
Anonymous No.718908269 >>718909231
>>718903265
Face buttons kind of suck honestly. We need controllers to start shifting to extra shoulder and back buttons instead, it's a lot more fluid of a gaming experience to be able to keep your thumbs on both sticks at all times and use your 8 fingers on button inputs.
Fuck Corsair for patenting paddles too.
>>718903414
8 way d-pads need to be the norm, shame the Elite series is the closest to that and their quality is piss poor.
Anonymous No.718908532
>>718903116 (OP)
This but the Playstation D-PAD
Anonymous No.718908557 >>718908832
So would it be possible to take one of those cheapo chinesium controllers, desolder the shitty analog sticks, and solder on some better ones? Or is there some electrical reason this wouldn't work?
Anonymous No.718908608 >>718908776
>>718903116 (OP)
>n64 RIP AND TEAR your fucking thumb skin joysticks
nigger why would you do this?
Anonymous No.718908776 >>718909465
>>718908608
it doesn't tear your thumbs. actually the main problem with the n64 sticks (other than the durability) is that they slip with the smallest amount of thumb sweat. it's fucking spinning it on your palm like a retard for mario party that rapes your skin
Anonymous No.718908832
>>718908557
Somewhat unrelated but I really appreciate that the N64 stick isn't soldered on, it's just plugged into the back of the PCB. Makes it a lot easier to clean/repair.
Anonymous No.718909231 >>718911145
>>718908269
>Face buttons kind of suck honestly. We need controllers to start shifting to extra shoulder and back buttons instead, it's a lot more fluid of a gaming experience to be able to keep your thumbs on both sticks at all times and use your 8 fingers on button inputs.
This is only a problem due to dual analog controls, retro controllers like Xbox with no motion controls and lazy devs forcing you to play cameraman. Face buttons are fluid, quick to tap and comfy.
>it's a lot more fluid of a gaming experience to be able to keep your thumbs on both sticks at all times and use your 8 fingers on button inputs.
This is always better accomplished by having the game mostly handle the camera on its own or have the camera be tied to the motion of your arm (mouse, lightgun, gyro or VR), because there is a lot more fine and gross motor control present there than just the tiny range of thumb movement you have.
>Fuck Corsair for patenting paddles too.
Ironmonger and Burgess (insert boss music here) only have that patent on "traditional" controllers, if we moved away from retro controllers, then this wouldn't be an issue. If you want someone to blame, blame the shit patent system, the shit American courts (a patent that could unironically be defeated by just holding the controller reversed, but it's still going to be in court for years) and normalfags who are obsessed with their Xbox and Playstation controllers that they got when they were 8.
Anonymous No.718909317 >>718909405
Octagonal gates are good but the stick itself sucks shit, also the bumpers on the 360 controller are shoddy. Also, fuck your wired bullshit.
Next time you post this you should use the SEX controller as a base and use GC sticks instead of the 64's
Anonymous No.718909375
>>718903345
if you have little baby hands
Anonymous No.718909405 >>718909481
>>718909317
>SEX controller
Horrible shape on that thing.
Anonymous No.718909442
>>718906804
Whats the doug button do
How do i pick up apples
Anonymous No.718909465
>>718908776
go get drunk and play some mario party with your friends and get back with me
Anonymous No.718909481
>>718909405
I think it's comfy, but I'll accept a 360 base with bumpers from literally any other controller. Those are awful.
Anonymous No.718909568
damn nigger you're a retard
what kind of insane idiot actually liked the n64 sticks you are defective and probably ugly
Anonymous No.718909589 >>718916989
>>718903265
Fuck Sony for killing the six face buttons, it could've been the industry standard. Even nintendo did it stealthily with the c-buttons.
Anonymous No.718909754
>>718903116 (OP)
>6 face buttons
That would require them to be angled the same way 4 buttons are, otherwise you fucked it. You know how awkward would be to position your thumb so you can hit A and X, B and Y, C and Z in a controller like that? You don't know because you suck cock.
Anonymous No.718909913
>>718906101
My daddy taught me a few things too, like uh, how not to rip the skin by using someone else's mouth
Anonymous No.718910010 >>718911267
I bought this pad and it shits on many many, many controllers out there. I like the symmetrical layout of my dualsneed more and I gave it up for this shit because the chinese seem to know what the fuck people want on a controller
Anonymous No.718910023
>>718903116 (OP)
Replace the right stick with a smooth circle gate, give both sticks rubberized tops and replace the dpad with a snes dpad and we are GOLDEN.
Anonymous No.718910072
>>718904240
That's the onlyh good option for 6 buttons, but if they're soft enough you may accidentally push on them.
Anonymous No.718910546 >>718911489
>>718906657
>sega dpad + neo geo dpad on the left
????
Anonymous No.718910606 >>718911093 >>718911151
>>718904240
>Sega design is awkward whenever you need to press two buttons at the same time.
you're insane, it's supremely easy because of the size difference and the way they're fanned out.
Anonymous No.718910790
>>718906101
mmMMHmmm.
Anonymous No.718910819 >>718935054
>>718907656
Xbox layout is weird because your left thumb gets very close to your left index finger if you're trying to press LB.
Anonymous No.718911093 >>718911134
>>718904240
yeah this >>718910606
with B as the "home" button (equivalent to Y on Nintendo or Square on Playstation, basically the button you use to run or shoot), you can actually easily press any other button at the same time. I just recently tried this with Cuphead, every action was mapped to one of the 6 buttons and it was completely fine, even X and Z. Whereas on a 4-button scheme, you can't easily press "Y" or "Square" at the same time as "A" or "Circle" without also pressing something else.
Anonymous No.718911134
>>718911093
actually Z might be the only somewhat troublesome button, but you can map that to an action that is less frequent.
Anonymous No.718911145 >>718911595
>>718909231
There's nothing wrong with being able to freely control a camera in games IMO. Fixed viewpoints are basically nonexistent these days. I also don't expect modern devs, or "devs" in some instances, to be able to make a competent fixed camera/"automatic" camera system (for lack of a better description) these days either.
For all intents and purposes KB+M is usually better in most games that have camera controls since you have to constantly swap between the stick and face buttons with most controllers, and for the fine control reasons you already stated. The simple fact is that if you want to develop a 3D game with things you want people to see in landscapes, buildings, characters, etc., you just have to give the players the freedom to move anywhere in the world's boundaries and look anywhere, too.
In that regard, fixed/"automatic" camera systems just don't really work that well if you want players to look at various angles, which in the modern era most do. The push for ever more detailed graphics only enforces this mindset. Most devs want players marveling at the visuals and taking screenshots from any which way they please/can.
I also agree with the nostalgia faggotry, and its accompanying consooming. Has been one of the worst things for this medium. It's why we've suffered the constant raping in remakes over the years, and also the snail's pace development of certain peripherals, like these, or other hardware. And it's never nostalgia in the sense of wanting to keep the same vibe the older stuff had, instead it's always "I enjoyed this thing from this brand/series when I was younger, so I'm obligated to buy every new thing they crap out forevermore, no matter how dissimilar it is, like the good drone I am :)"
Anonymous No.718911151 >>718911378
>>718910606
It's not about easy, it's the angle of your thumb. Bottom is more comfortable.
Anonymous No.718911247
only people who care about 6 face buttons are fighting game idiots who are all fags and I would prefer 4 instead to not please them
Anonymous No.718911267 >>718911385 >>718924492
>>718910010
Chinks make the best controllers.
Anonymous No.718911276
Ideally you use all your fingers for buttons rather than just your thumb
Anonymous No.718911293
>>718903116 (OP)
can it play nortubel?
Anonymous No.718911378 >>718911514
>>718911151
counterpoint:
Anonymous No.718911385 >>718912356
>>718911267
I don't know how they do it. I'm not sure about durability though. The huben 2 for instance looks more solid than my xbone gamepad for sure, but we'll see how those omron switches fare in a year. Still 65€ for a controller with soft mechanical everything, perfect analogs and 4 back buttons that can be remapped to keyboard keys is insane
Anonymous No.718911489
>>718910546
sometimes you just need more dpads
Anonymous No.718911514 >>718911737
>>718911378
The only combinations I don't see awkward in there are B/A, B/X and C/B. The point is not having to change your hand position too much to hit buttons.
Hell I can hit A and Y on the 4 button layout if I just press with the side of my thumb. Not pleasant but sure as hell better than whatever the fuck B/Z is.
Anonymous No.718911595 >>718911687
>>718911145
Fixed cameras are infinitely better and create better visuals and are infinitely more memorable. It's a shame they can't make them work anymore and you have to spend the entire game fiddling with the camera.
Anonymous No.718911687 >>718913017
>>718911595
Nta, but fixed cameras are good until they aren't and sometimes free cameras are better. I'll take free camera and fiddliness over fixed cameras where I can't get a better look at the scenery or environment when I want to any day.
Anonymous No.718911737
>>718911514
The Sega controllers with no grips were not held the same way. Post PS1, people started playing with their hands more on the side and thumb on the right hand facing 'west'. Before that, people played with the hand lower facing NW. The things that guy suggested in his pic for button combinations is ridiculous though.
Anonymous No.718912074 >>718912262
>>718904240
I had this controller. It's dog shit. The d-pad is flimsy piece of junk and the CZ are set up in a way that you'll bump into it with your thumb while pressing ABXY. At least the Xbox S controller had the sense of making the CZ buttons recessed, unlike this.
Anonymous No.718912262
>>718912074
I have never pressed those buttons by mistake. In fact, I have forgotten those buttons exist every time I played with that controller. I don't know about flimsy but the dpad is too clicky if anything.
Anonymous No.718912356
>>718911385
>I'm not sure about durability though.
I'm not worried at all.
Anonymous No.718912424 >>718912585
>thumb buttons
>cant look around at the same time
Anonymous No.718912585
>>718912424
We need a controller with 6 back buttons and 6 trigger buttons
Anonymous No.718912635
>>718903116 (OP)
This is just a half-assed fightpad.
Anonymous No.718913017 >>718913090
>>718911687
Then you just add some minor camera adjust options on top or maybe a camera mode if you're feeling fancy.
Holding a controller should mean that you are holding a device that maximizes fun and game design, constantly controlling the camera does not lend itself towards that.
Anonymous No.718913090
>>718913017
I have the most fun when I am in complete control of the game I am playing. You can have an automatic camera fill the same role as a fixed camera, but then it still allows me to change the camera angle if I disagree with the dev on what the best camera angle is, or if I simply just want a different one.
Anonymous No.718915085 >>718919541
You fags DID order the parts to finally create the greatest (true) analog stick ever created, right that will literally never drift and last forever, right?
Anonymous No.718916420
>>718903116 (OP)
Never cook again.
Anonymous No.718916785
>>718908031
light kick, medium kick, heavy kick
Anonymous No.718916820 >>718920483
Anonymous No.718916989
>>718909589
actually, the SFC was the first to do 4 face buttons. 6 face buttons was basically exclusively a sega thing, which makes it suck even more that they ditched it with the dreamcast, despite not even needing to make extra room for a second stick
Anonymous No.718918805
>>718906101
>>718906320
Mario Party 1 is a poorly designed video game with dramatic overreliance on spinning the stick, which you're not supposed to do using the palm of your hand.
anonymous No.718919273 >>718919541
>>718903116 (OP)
>GOAT n64 sticks (assuming they're lubed metal)
>8 direction d-pad
>6 button face!!!!

unironically you have. I would literally choose an entire gaming platform just for the controller if that was what it used.
Anonymous No.718919541 >>718920038
>>718919273
>>718915085
I didn't even think about the steelsticks (i was never able to get one and even if they were still available they're too expensive), but yeah that would make it literally the perfect controller
anonymous No.718920038
>>718919541
I've heard that lube will make the default last long enough that the difference is irrelevant, but if we're in the realm of fantasy controllers they might as well be a steelstick
Anonymous No.718920357 >>718920458
/v/ recommended me pic related and it's actually pretty good
the xbox layout is a bit hard to get used to tho
anonymous No.718920458
>>718920357
six
button
face
Anonymous No.718920483
>>718916820
this could never work
Anonymous No.718921020
>>718903116 (OP)
I legit have no idea why controllers like this don't exist. 6 fact buttons is needed to properly play Arcade/SEGA/N64 games and gives you a good level of expressive power that's available for use both for your thumb and for use as 'piano keys' or claw style.

Two thumb sticks are necessary, and high placement for the left one is more comfortable (the 'N64' control with one stick on the left completely misses the point of how you play shooters wit hit and sucks).

Gyro is amazing for camera aim and is way underutilized despite being perfect at what it does with a controler. Gyro is 'better' than a mouse because the way you aim is more realistic and closer to how you actually use a weapon. For actual cursor control the controller should incorporate a playstation style central touchpad, LCD screen form a possible option for an 'ideal controller that does everything.

>>718906719
>Dual analog is a bad control scheme and a right trackpad is better for the occasional flickstick-like inputs
You may be right if we're talking a trackball specifically.
Anonymous No.718921164 >>718928872
>>718906609
>all style, no substance
>still buy it
retard
Anonymous No.718921269
>>718903116 (OP)
I get the joke, you took the worst features from multiple controllers and put it on one thing.
Anonymous No.718922365 >>718929748 >>718934115
I would like to see more controllers use an extra shoulder button, convenient and more comfortable to me than back paddles.
Anonymous No.718924492
>>718911267
>Chinks
Why they named it gameSAAAR?
I suspect some foul play here.
Anonymous No.718925951
>>718906804
Came here to post this exact edit.
Anonymous No.718926408 >>718929873 >>718935219
>>718903116 (OP)
>no clickable sticks
>6 face buttons fucking sucks. you sacrifice 2 bumpers and it only works on fighting stick where you use all your fingers to hit the buttons
close but no cigar
Anonymous No.718928857
>>718903353
if a game needs that many buttons to play it then it's a shit game and not worth playing it
Anonymous No.718928872
>>718921164
I literally said there's less features for 2.5 times the price, why the fuck does that make you think i bought it?
Anonymous No.718929270
Where's the "Doug" button
Anonymous No.718929748
>>718922365
I'd rather have buttons for my middle and ring fingers to press when they usually have nothing, but ideally every controller would have the two extra shoulder buttons alongside four back paddles.
Anonymous No.718929873 >>718935219
>>718926408
Why do you assume the two extra face buttons replace the triggers and not the click sticks
Fucking retard you just made up something in your head to get mad at
Anonymous No.718930436
>>718903116 (OP)
>haptic triggers
Who actually likes this?
Anonymous No.718930919
I WANT THREE ANALOG STICKS, FUCK A DPAD. I WANT LEFT AND RIGHT ANALOG STICKS TO HAVE CIRCLE, AND I WANT THE ONE REPLACING THE DPAD TO HAVE 8-WAY GATE
Anonymous No.718931780
>>718905060
>Xbox dish dpad strikes a superior balance, and unlike the Saturn you can easily press from the center in whatever direction you want with 100% accuracy because it doesn't depress

This post reminded me that I made a 3d printable mod for xbox 360 d-pads that adds a central pivot so it can no longer be pressed down.
https://litter.catbox.moe/1lg4iz84clw4b3w1.zip
Anonymous No.718932247
I bought a Gulikit Elves 2 based on the recommendations of an Anon here and I think it's excellent. I have no nostalgia for the Sega Saturn (never even seen one) but I'm really liking the dpad.
Anonymous No.718934115
>>718922365
I wish more companies added a third set of bumpers like 8bitdo or razer.
Anonymous No.718934794
>>718903116 (OP)
The controller shell needs to be a bit bigger.,
Anonymous No.718935054
>>718903345
I cannot fathom thinking those things are comfortable to hold
>>718910819
What the fuck are you talking about
Anonymous No.718935219 >>718935369
>>718926408
>>718929873
Do you guys realize that there isn't a hard limit to the number of buttons a controller can have? It is, in fact, possible to design a controller with ALL the same shit as an Xbox 360 controller but with two additional buttons. Nothing had to be "replaced" when we went from A+B on NES to A+B+X+Y+L+R on SNES. Old games won't necessarily recognize more buttons without remapping, but that doesn't mean technology isn't allowed to move forward after 2005. But I know it's hard to understand when you're only about 20 years old and video games have been exactly the same for your entire existence.
Still, for what it's worth:
>stick click
Total garbage nobody asked for.
>shoulder bumpers
Absolute dogshit on Xbox 360 controllers. Designed to break. They could have just put regular-ass buttons for LB and RB, but instead they chose to make this squishy lever-action bullshit that has this weak-ass click, and then keeps squishing down AFTER the click so that it immediately starts wearing-and-tearing as soon as you inevitably press it beyond the bare minimum required pressure, and after a month of regular use it's already clicking well before the input registers, so you have to push it harder, and you probably end up pushing it too hard now that there's no tactile indication of what the right pressure is and you're in the middle of a game needing to be 100% sure the game takes your input from this squishy bullshit with a lying click response. Holy fuck. Why did they design it like that? To sell replacement controllers is the only plausible answer. So although shoulder buttons can theoretically be nice in that they free up your thumbs for other inputs, I would give up Xbox 360's shoulder buttons in a heartbeat. FUCK them. Plus I always found them to be awkward as fuck to use at the same time as the LT and RT triggers, so I don't really gain anything from having both LT/RT and LB/RB simultaneously.
Anonymous No.718935369
>>718935219
no fag i like this shit go away
Anonymous No.718935865
>>718903353
Spin jump on R is the superior control scheme.
Anonymous No.718936251
>>718903116 (OP)
Anonymous No.718938193
>>718904534
That can be done by sofware nowadays, donΒ΄t need to have those switches wasting space.