Thread 718903181

i have a shumup idea and wanna know whats the best engine to make one.
is unity good?

make one yourself duh

RPG Maker

>>718903398
i am no compsci major bruh
i got a C- in my college python class bro and thats out of sheer fucking luck

Unreal Engine 5™ with Nanite™ technology.

you gotta do unreal 5 man with ray tracing and make sure its unoptimized as shit its what all the cool devs are doing now a days glory to the CCP

>>718903790
Fuck off this is NOT your general thread and I DONT want a 1 day ban again because some faggot thought it would be funny to hijack my discussion into a ERP general

GM or Godot for 2D, Unity for 3D. All the tutorials you will find on Danmaku are peak retarded by the way. To handle bullets you use particle systems, not objects. You also need an Instance Pooling system or you won't be able to create patterns with more than 100 bullets before performance tanks

>>718903181 (OP)
I know this is normally a meme but for something like a shmup you should really really just do your own thing with a library rather than using an engine. They need optimizations in the right places and an engine will be loaded with bloat that does nothing for your game

>>718903924
How the fuck are you supposed to build a shumpup from ground up with 0 game experience?

>>718903181 (OP)
If you're making bullet hell, using a premade engine is a bad idea. Good bullet hells have slowdown in dense patterns as a result of them intentionally running at the limit of arcade hardware (then the developer has to match that slowdown exactly on a port or it either becomes impossible or the strategies change).

is this the thread?

>>718904342
Same way you would make any regular game from the ground up?

>>718904708
I have no idea how to make a game wtf
I just thought of an idea and wanna actually make it instead of being an idea guy

>>718905192
Hi?

>>718904478
Nope

Well guys I guess that's it

Any more answers

>>718904342
It's not really that hard, with a library you'll have input and "draw this graphic at this coordinate onscreen" commands and all that. You just build a game loop that updates every object by one frame worth of time and then draws everything.

>>718903181 (OP)
There are multiple engines specifically made for shmups, not sure if they are actually good though.

>>718903903
Never make a thread with touhou in OP on /v/.

>>718903181 (OP)
Use Godot if it's 2D. Unity doesn't have real 2D rendering.

>>718903924
Not true. Just use Godot and compile the parts you need or don't because it's a small engine. It saves a lot of trouble.

>>718907856
Any tutorial on that?

>>718908448
Ignore him. Use Godot. It's never that simple. UI is difficult, but Godot makes it very easy. There are a lot of small things that will come up that will make you wish you just used an engine. It also makes it much easier to debug and port to other platforms like mobile. Start here: https://docs.godotengine.org/en/stable/getting_started/first_2d_game/

Go over all the tutorials on there and consult the docs if you ever forget something. Also, download ChatGPT and ask it for coding help once you figure out the basics. IT can be very helpful.

>>718903903
I have bad news for you then

>>718904342
Doing things from the ground up from a "low level" stand point will make you learn more about how programming, computers and games work rather than if you use an engine that is extremely prepackaged and does everything for you, so doing shit in C is a good place to start actually

>>718903698
Thanks Tim. I too love being blinded by vaseline and watch another couple of decades worth of games be made where people in about 20 years can laugh about the smearing mess that this current joke of an industry's best is.

BODIED

>>718903698
unreaal suckds

nyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

>>718903181 (OP)
The filename triggers me in different ways
>The game shown isn't Imperishable Night
>Touhou 8 is called Imperishable Night, no plural.

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>>718903618
It's really not that hard. I believe in you.
Look into using SFML.
They've got built in functions to load in textures, draw them to the screen, take input, keep time, and play sounds.
I've heard good things about PyGame if you already know python. It's not going to require a lot of processing power, so you'll be fine using a slow language like that.
A Shmup is one of the simplest types of games to develop. All you need for a basic one is a way to display a player sprite at set coordinates, display bullets and enemies on the screen, and detect when the player or enemy overlaps with a bullet.

MOFAAARUK

Sakura sexo

>>718908448
literally just google "game loop"
Start with love2d if you want something simple

>>718903181 (OP)
SDL2 unironically
Or Raylib

>>718903517
Damn, this guy has EXTRAPOWER

>>718903181 (OP)
STGBuilder
It's on steam
No programming though, I hate it but it has all the features

what the helly??!

>>718912646
>20 bucks
anon...

>>718903181 (OP)
Just download Raylib, create circles or boxes, make them movable with the arrow keys, add collision logic with other circles or boxes that act as bullets, and implement logic to spawn and spread bullets into more beautiful patterns. Implement your game loop logic and that’s it

>>718903181 (OP)
haha funni meira balls danmaku

what if i wanna make my enemies able to make melee attacks the main character can parry?

Should i rely on AI to help me code then ask for you guys to proofread the thing?

>>718914378
no

>>718914378
Yeah

>>718914378
maybe

I've tried out tons of shmups and the only ones that ever grabbed me were Dangun Feveron and Under Defeat
Why is that bros

>>718914378
nah

>>718914378
yup

Sumireko's opinion on AI?

>>718903181 (OP)
C and SDL2
i tried this multiple times maybe just use game maker

>>718917320
How about godot

>>718903181 (OP)
just learn maths bro

>>718914378
Perhaps.

>>718917634
idk never used it

>>718914378
Zun literally made a game that says that this is a bad idea

>>718903181 (OP)
Doesn't matter because your first attempt won't be even close to what you've envisioned. You should begin experimenting with Unity or Godot or whatever and make dozens of shitty versions of the game first. Then either keep refining them, or make your own game engine if you're really dedicated.

>>718914378
You probably should, but the AI isn't guaranteed to work either.

>>718903618
>i am no compsci major bruh
you don't learn programming in compsci retard

>>718908414
>Unity doesn't have real 2D rendering.
Every engine renders flat quads in orthographic projection for 2D, because that's what GPUs can do fast. Nobody in 21st century blits. What Godot has is 2D logic, not rendering.

>>718918154
Who the fuck is zun

>>718918997
Japanese beer artisan, he has a popular vlog that reviews different brews and sometimes sake

>>718906561
>This was implanted into her brain

1ccs?

>>718918997
Fag

>>718903181 (OP)
>bunch of shit on a screen + anime cringe
Shmup incels need to be left behind in the early 2000s.

>ArIya generated 2hu
>jeets flock to it like flies to shit

>>718920597
good one

>>718920597
bad one

>>718920597
middling one

>>718920597
Ok one

>>718920597
Wasn't that debunked in the game? I could have swore /jp/ was baseding out over Nareko not being an ai

>>718921976
Nobody is an AI creation, where the hell is this headanon shit coming from?
The slop from the outside world messing up Yuiman is the only AI involved (besides ZUN slopping background textures)

Gamemaker (gamemaker 2?) there's been awesome shmups made with it
Just make sure your idea isn't a meme.

So, godmother or SDL2?

>>718922851
Godot

do 2hufags need to hide behind shmup threads now in order to survive?

you arent even playing the new game are you

>>718923425
2hu is a shmup
shmupfags can seethe and cry all they like

>>718926110
2hufags know they don't mess with shmup threads since millennia, you must be a newfag

>>718923425
>do 2hufags need to actually engage with the source material the characters come from now?
lol

>>718924420
I'd feel bad pirating it and can't justify the purchase, there are better schmups out there.

>>718927019
We don't need to because you make boogeymen of us within the threads unprompted. I wish I was joking.
Sad to see.

>>718927134
Who are you quoting?

>>718927397
all games are free in Moriya Shrine thoughever