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Anonymous No.718905065 >>718905671 >>718906091 >>718906624 >>718910739
>reignites you're passion for vidya
Anonymous No.718905264 >>718910041
why does it look like a tube amp?
Anonymous No.718905671 >>718905795 >>718905878 >>718906694 >>718909061
>>718905065 (OP)
what does this do that retroarch cant do
Anonymous No.718905795
>>718905671
AcCuRaCy!!!!!!!!!!1111111oneonetwo
Anonymous No.718905878
>>718905671
sunk cost fallacy
Anonymous No.718906000
I'll take "meme hardware you don't need" for 400, Alex
Anonymous No.718906024 >>718906479 >>718906570 >>718906835 >>718907072 >>718908084 >>718910792
>magic box the size of a soda can that plays all those retro classics completely hardware accurate with original controllers and completely 100% lagless
>just works perfectly headache-free on CRT with any connection type, or you can hook up and play on 4k TV with zero additional lag
>one shared hardware configuration + update_all script means you never ever have to worry about issues specific to your setup, and never have to tinker with specific builds or settings. Just run update_all script and it just works perfectly for everyone
It's literally the best gaming purchase I've ever made in my life.
Anonymous No.718906091
>>718905065 (OP)
Anonymous No.718906479
>>718906024
>t.
Anonymous No.718906570
>>718906024
How much do they pay you to post this? How do I get enrolled to be paid for posting. I'm interested
Anonymous No.718906624
>>718905065 (OP)
This runs on a dc 5v? How is this enough
Anonymous No.718906694 >>718907257
>>718905671
In one of the huge threads here about a month or 2 ago, the idiots who bought one of these things went from
-arguing that it was more accurate and had less input lag
to
-admitting that they aren't more accurate or less laggy
to
-finally saying that they just wanted a "dedicated box" in their living room as some sort of status symbol.
Anonymous No.718906835 >>718907027
>>718906024
I built a SFF PC in 2013 that does all that.
And emulates more systems than your retard box ever will.
Just as accurately.
And with even less input lag.

Plus it has more configuration options, shaders, features etc.
Anonymous No.718907027
>>718906835
Anything higher than N64/PS1/Saturn,l has dogshit emulation anyways. PCSX2 and Dolphin are trash (especially on a decade+ year old rig). Play on modded original hardware or fuck off subhuman
Anonymous No.718907072
>>718906024
Hope you are getting paid by replies bro, here's an extra reply so you get some extra cash if you do. Life is hard, I get it, but tell your boss to not be a faggot and buy an ad.
Anonymous No.718907257 >>718909708
>>718906694
It's as much lag as original hardware. Overwhelming vast majority of people emulating (phone, tablet, Steam Deck, old console, chinkheld, shitty laptop, 60Hz display) are going to have more input lag than original hardware, outside of those with a decently powerful PC and a low lag high refresh-rate monitor.

it's also as accurate or more accurate than the most accurate software emulators, especially so for Saturn and N64 that are more accurate than any software emulator by far.

You always have one set codified consistent configuration which means less fiddling about and tinkering, and not having to worry about issues or troubleshooting caused by your drivers, hardware configuration, or OS/GPU settings
Anonymous No.718907535 >>718907820 >>718908737 >>718908831
uhh mistsisters??
Anonymous No.718907626
But I already have an Odin 2 with a dock
Anonymous No.718907820
>>718907535
No bro. You dont get it. MiSister is better.
SAGE No.718908084 >>718908903
>>718906024
why do boomers and onions get so giddy at playing antique (read "SHIT") games on useless hardware?
Anonymous No.718908737
>>718907535
Run-ahead is for laggy games, not laggy setups.

It's almost never recommended to use run-ahead as it increases input lag variance for slightly lower raw input lag. It's also not accurate to original hardware, has limited implementation depending on internal game lag and how intensive it is to run, and can cause various issues

The only rare edge case in which it may be worth it (and even then, not really), is games that are easy to run accurately, have significant inherent gameplay lag (5+ frames), and where reactions are more important than timing. In these case, the raw input lag improvement is so large that it could (arguably, but not really) outweigh the increase in input lag variance that it brings.

Run-ahead is not going to remove any inherent lag from your setup or V-Sync lag, which will usually be 2-3 frames at least. So no, you are almost certainly not getting original hardware/MiSTer CRT level input lag, and you certainly aren't getting that level of input lag consistency either.
Anonymous No.718908831
>>718907535
>causes gameplay issues such as jitter
yeah, it does cause jitter, a lot of it
can't be mitigated either
Anonymous No.718908903
>>718908084
Why wouldn't you be excited to have a small convenient box that can play all the best games from the golden age of gaming in the best possible way?

Why does MiSTer make poorfags seethe so much?
Anonymous No.718909061 >>718909226
>>718905671
It's in theory more accurate since it tries to replicate the original hardware's function in the FPGA. Of course this can still be buggy, somebody is writing the cores and there can obviously be problems the actual original hardware doesn't have (those can also be fixed later).

That being said if you run a game on a regular PC emulator and it runs perfectly fine, I think there's little reason to bother.
Anonymous No.718909226 >>718909368
>>718909061
>That being said if you run a game on a regular PC emulator and it runs perfectly fine, I think there's little reason to bother.
>high-end enthusiast product bad, you should never have standards or expectations of quality, just accept the cheapest slop that does the bare minimum
Fuck off and die poorfag
Anonymous No.718909325
Mister Fuckpigga...

You knowed you cane cum to da hood no mo...
Anonymous No.718909368
>>718909226
My "poorfag" emulation system runs way more consoles and way more games than your "high-end enthusiast" lil box ;)
Anonymous No.718909412 >>718909807 >>718910014
I lack media literacy on this topic but help me out bros.
I used retroarch and Kega Fusion in the past but the virtual CRT in this game makes games look better than the results I achieved with either Retroarch and Kega Fusion, even the Genesis Mini does not look as good.

What are the settings to replicate this in other emulators?
I finally see that Retro indie games were done by people who played FF on ZSnes or something when they were younger because the CRT curvature gives sidescrollers and other games a certain visual depth compared to how static the look if you just load the roms into the emulator with no other adjustments.
Anonymous No.718909708 >>718909786 >>718909793
>>718907257
>a decently powerful PC and a low lag high refresh-rate monitor.
What is a good modern monitor for old vidya then?
144hz does not even come close to the refresh rate of a CRT.
Anonymous No.718909786 >>718910226
>>718909708
144 is medium
Anonymous No.718909793 >>718910226
>>718909708
..the refresh rate of a CRT was 60hz NTSC, unless you were in yurop in which case the queen taxed you 10hz
Anonymous No.718909807 >>718910014
>>718909412
a crt that supports dvi or vga input natively will look better then a filter but good luck finding one in decent shape for a reasonable price
Anonymous No.718909867 >>718909991
here's the run down from somebody who actually owns this thing: if you don't have a crt, just emulate unless you're really so autistic about input lag that you wanna spend a couple hundred bucks just to get rid of it
Anonymous No.718909991 >>718910691
>>718909867
it's okay to be autistic about input lag, it's also nice to not have the distinct audio pops and crackle from software based emulation on modern windows with modern cpus
Anonymous No.718910014 >>718910427
>>718909807
That isn't true at all. The thing with CRTs, and CRT filters, is that it's all mostly personal preference.

A 31khz CRT will never give you the same picture as a 15khz one, because triads aren't the same as slot masks. CRTs as a group aren't all the same thing, the picture can vary wildly.

>>718909412
You'd need to provide a picture of the actual fucking CRT image you're trying to recreate. The easiest thing to do would be to go look through examples of retroarch filters until you find one that's a close enough match to what you want, there are plenty of autists out there trying to recreate some dogshit CRT they had when they were 12 with a shader.
Anonymous No.718910041
>>718905264

that's essentially what it is, but for games
Anonymous No.718910090
Does MiSTer let you adjust picture offset on a per system basis yet? While I like that the Mega Drive and SNES cores are just as misaligned as the real consoles are IRL, it'd be nice to to get both of them in the middle of the fucking screen.
Anonymous No.718910226
>>718909786
>>718909793
I misread, I thought the standard for CRTs was 200hz but that is like some odd model.
Also wasn't the framerate of a Ps like below 30?
So you had a refresh rate between 50hz and 200hz depending of the model but framerates between 25 and 30 depending if its pal or NTCS?

What is the conclusion here? a lazy online search says a SNES capped at 60fps.
All I know is that the virtual CRT inside the Mega Drive collection looks cool.
Anonymous No.718910427 >>718910872
>>718910014
I think this looks really cool, I never tried to make the image curve as to replicate a CRT and that changes a lot, the forest in shinobi 3 just scrolls giving the illusion you are moving through a 3D space.
Anonymous No.718910691 >>718910812
>>718909991
>plays at 240p instead of 4k for audio problems I never noticed or input lag that's irrelevant unless you speedrun
Anonymous No.718910739
>>718905065 (OP)
It's....an emulator in a box for $500
Anonymous No.718910792
>>718906024
What an inorganic post
Anonymous No.718910812
>>718910691
don't worry about it then
Anonymous No.718910872 >>718911121
>>718910427
You would probably enjoy something like this.
https://forums.libretro.com/t/mega-bezel-reflection-shader-feedback-and-updates/25512
Anonymous No.718911121
>>718910872
Sweet, thank you anon.