Thread 718905360

What RTS (or RTT) has the most satisfying artillery?

>>718905360 (OP)
Warhammer Total War with the dwarfs, seeing a cannon shoot down a dragon, a Fire Cannon burn down a whole legion in a single shot or cavalry get shot down during their charge in one or two Organ gun volley is incredibly satisfying. Chaos Dwarfs are pretty satisfying too with their mortars acting like mini nukes.

>>718905360 (OP)
Total War SHOGUN 2 Fall of the Samurai

>>718905360 (OP)
Steel Division Normandy 44

>>718905360 (OP)
mortar, howitzer, towed, selfpropelled, or rocket? i think Eugen games do pretty good in how devastating artillery is such as steel division normandy 44, sd2, and WARNO.
warhammer 40k: dawn of war imperial guard basilisks are also very satisfying.

Total Empire/Napoleon really drills into your brain the meaning of fire superiority. Entire lines of troops getting obliterated by cannon fire from a bad maneuver is a highlight.

>>718905360 (OP)
World in conflict.

>>718905360 (OP)
>>718905489
this, twwh has very satisfying artillery, but if a more traditional rts is what you're looking for then beyond all reason has all the artillery you could ever want

>>718905360 (OP)
Blitzkrieg had amazing artillery effects

>>718905489
Warhammer arty is like a fucking wet noodle compared to earlier historical total war games. What the fuck are you even talking about.

>>718905980
Had it right.

>>718905980
lol lmao even

>>718906072
Part of this is the way Rome 2 and on changed how unit damage works. They did away with dynamic collision and basically made each formate a tactical blob with health. It’s really atrocious what happened.

Arrows used to find marks in shogun 2. Now they just tick away health and a predetermined number of guys fall off.

captcha: G4YNA(poleon)

>>718905360 (OP)
world in conflict

>>718905360 (OP)
Wargame: Red Dragon.
The devastation is on such a good scale. Watching just half an entire town go up in napalm from your Burratino is unlike anything else.
The funny numbers that pop up also give it so much satisfaction.

>>718905360 (OP)
Supreme Commander

>>718906459
>>718906505
Where my quicklime and high explosive niggas at

>>718906574
GT games are pretty good with simulating arty accurately, with the limitations imposed by vidyagayms. you need spotters, connections (telephone line, radio sets, voice), plenty of correction and so on.

>>718906137
Anon you're only like half right. There still are dynamic collisions and each man in the unit is its own thing, they're just retarded and fucked the formation AI and various values so units don't function right. Additionally, individual man within the unit have health, even if it depicts the overall unit as having a health bar.
This is gay and is worse, but for example a cannonball in TW:WH will crash through lines. It's just deliberately made ineffective in various ways. Arrows will knock health off individual models and there's some circumstances that can lead to a unit where every model has lower health but isn't dead, or where there's only a few units at high health.
tl;dr it's literally just CA's incompetence, it's not even anything systemic with the games

Supreme commander Cmon you fucking niggers. All that time to build a mavor and then you get to watch it get hard and unleash shot after shot deep into the enemies base. And there is not a God damn thing they can do about it

>>718906845
Supcom had some great arty anon, but we are talking aesthetics here, so there are a variety of answers.

>>718906845
I already said bar which is better supcom

>>718906978
If by better, you mean more sweaty and less fun…

>>718905360 (OP)
supreme commander

World in Conflict

>>718905360 (OP)
Company of Heroes

>>718905360 (OP)
I'd say Men of War because of building destruction.

A well timed Fire at Will canister shot into cavalry in Napoleon or Empire. There isn't a greater feeling.

>>718905360 (OP)
is it a universal experience to turn on sandbox/cheats mode on RTS/RTT games at least once and nuke an entire team of AI bots with a bajillion arty pieces or is this just something my friend group does

>>718907327
nah I did that in starcraft with the battlecruisers as well. Would build like 100 and nuke everything.

DoW basilisk
Watching them break squad formations is satisfying

>>718905360 (OP)
men of war series. artillery is absolutely horrifically devastating

>>718907445
>DoW basilisk
Top kek.
Literally one of the worst artillery and flyers game-design

>>718906539
Ironically the artillery in that game is pretty weak, pretty much any other fire support is better.

Gates of hell is pretty high up there.

>>718907647
this nigger playing soulstorm LMAO

>>718905360 (OP)
World in Conflict. Artillery and bomber can level whole blocks of units, they are really powerfull. The only problem is that these are mostly power buttons you press and direct the ground to bomb. But if you want satisfying destruction there are few games that deliver like WIC.

>no mention of Supreme Commander

Watching your T2 artillery blow up advancing enemy is still as satisfying as it was 15 years ago

>>718905360 (OP)
Factorio

More traumatizing than satisfying, but whenever I read about Stalinorgel I remember bf1942. Despite explossions having no umph in that game it really captured the helplessness and chaos of seeing everything around you blowing up, and knowing that you'll probably survive but maybe you won't, and there's not much you can do about it so you just lay down and wait to die.

>>718907786
Those guys in the hill must be experiencing absolute fucking terror watching rockets fly over them/miss and hit the ground right next to them.

>>718905360 (OP)
Ground Control artillery hit like a fucking hammer. There's a reason that aside from the Command APC and Drone Deployer, they're the only unit in the entire game where you get only a single one instead of a squad.

The sequel had much better visuals for it, but the actual damage was nerfed into the dirt.

>>718907825
1) Played all DoW-1 games. Artillery remains lame, since game itself is very non-lethal
2) Like it or not, bu Soulstorm have most refined balance in the series

>>718908208
>T2 artillery
Waste of mass. Usable only in campaign, where you had to turtle.

COH2 and 3.

>>718908302
>random rocket hits a tree and sends wood splinters all over the place

>>718905360 (OP)
Wargame Airland Battle

Deserts of Kharak is pretty good.

>>718905523
Correct.
It's one of the few RTS where artilleries itself can wins you a battle, and not just some auxiliary siege machine or long range counter unit.

>>718906015
Best post and no one agreed. Fucking casuals

>>718905360 (OP)
most infuriating would be sudden strike when you are spotted by enemy infantry out of range and all the arty units zero in on you instantly

BAR
Company of heroes
Gates of Hell

These are artillery porn games, specially BAR

>>718905360 (OP)
Seeing it take chunks out of buildings and shred anything out in the open is amazing. When you fight it on the other hand it's pure torture.

>>718908980
You just described Napoleon Total War.

And Defcon.

Super charged, super charged, all callsigns FIRE!!

>>718909671
>expensive
>hits fuck all
>does lackluster damage
>costly to maintain
Glmrs kinda sucks but the howitzer platforms are cool.

>>718907786
is this a MOWAS clone?

>>718907445
>tried the demaster with UA vs the Nids
>watching 20 basilisks pieplating the gaunt shitters and tossing carnifexs around
>does nothing against zoanthropes and the giganigga carnifex variants that are about half the size of a trygon
Distinctively remember them being a lot more powerful before then again I never managed to get more than 12 on the field before the game started crashing.

>>718906072
The main point of Warhammer is variety, in the other historical games you have little target or artillery variety. Seeing your Rocket troops kill a guy with a gun gets old after a while if I have to take Empire for example, having a chain axe throwing artillery piece turn a legion into mincemeat isn't something you can get somewhere else.

>>718910960
HIMARS is excellent for raping enemy artillery positions or else other static strongpoints.

>>718911013
No, it *is* MOWAS. The devs made a new engine for a shitty modern game, then leased this engine out to a mod developer to create a WW2 game on it.

>>718908804
The Gras rocket artillery that the GLA gets in Rise of the Reds is pretty cool. If you thought the missilespam from rocket buggies were bad this shit turns it up to 11. So much that you start hitting friendlies with how saturated the area gets.

>>718911786
They buffed it? Haven't played the new dlc yet.

Rangewhore the RTS

Foxhole.

>>718912802
*Builds rocket artillery thinking it'll beat everything*
*Get overrun by t1 units and btfo'd*
wtf you lied to me

>>718912802
>Rangewhore the RTS
Perfect for me.

Wargame

>>718906459
>>718906505
i dont remember napoleon being this kino

>>718905360 (OP)
Total War Warhammer and the original Dawn of War series.

>>718911824
Feels like I've seen a gorillion MOWAS-likes the past few years, they borderline look like mods of MOWAS most of the time.

Is any of them good? does any one of them have an MP community more active than MOWAS 2?

>>718914362
GoH Ostfront is just a better Men of War at this point

>>718908235
+1, was gonna say this

SHATTER THEIR SKIES!

>>718916281
Reminder that the Basilisk has smaller caliber than the Hummel in the OP.

>>718916281
Remember when Basilisk had map wide range in WA?

>>718916596
UGH

>>718914462
How is the modding scene?
Honestly the only thing holding me back at this point.

>>718905360 (OP)
Act of War, World in Conflict, Supreme Commander

generally you are better off in real time tactics game with artillery that actually feels long range and not somethign that outranges stationary defense by 5m.

Now what are some RTS games that have good Naval units?

>>718918906
Not an RTS, but Ultimate Admiral: Age of Sail. It has both excellent naval battles and Total War like land battles.

>>718918906
Rome 2, Empire, Napoleon, Shogun 2, Shogun 2 Fall in the Samurai.

>>718919034
Total War naval battles are shit.

>>718919086
vanilla shogun 2 is the most balanced imo

>>718907786
The maps are so small that it makes artillery look retarded with its tiny range.

>>718905360 (OP)
Warzone 2100. Watching like 10 hellstorm batteries vaporize an entire cyborg rush is so satisfying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH-3TtO6Rjs&t=2371s
>>718916281
Did you accidentally post in the wrong thread? How is this satisfying?
>Giant howitzer hits a squad dead center, scattering them a bit
>Every single model proceeds to jump back and get into formation
>Models received barely any damage