Thread 718906424

i'm finally going home bros
can't wait to get my all my pc performance back
fuck windows 10, 11 and fuck microjeetsoft

ahhhhh I tried this distro but it was too minty man ahhhhhhhh

>>718906424 (OP)
how well does this work for gaming, run into much issues?

Le "Nigs" Mint

>>718906424 (OP)
This is not the way.
If youre a gamer, you have two solid options tailored specifically for that use case: Nobara and Bazzite.

I would recommend Bazzite because it's more stable at the cost of limiting some minor freedoms.

>>718906424 (OP)
that's great, anon

>>718906601
cute cat

>>718906502
Literally just install Steam and install your games.
You can also use Lutris of Heroic Game Launcher if you want more options.

>>718907349
Lutris or*

>Falling for Linux without any background on coding.

In theory, yes, Linux is better. Most people don't know how to operate it. I recommend Windows if you are a casual.

>>718907349
thanks anon

>>718906424 (OP)
>fatally hacked by "bulgarian" hackers couple of years ago
>event never explained, memoryholled, tens of millions were exposed harder than a public google account
I wish to physically bully you for being such a slave

sage>>718906584
>Exclusively Fedora meme distros
Debian/Mint and Arch are solid beginner's choices depending on where you skew towards.
>I want it to just werk on my slightly older PC and i'm not interested in trying a bunch of software -> Debian/Mint
>I want a guide and handholding for trying a bunch of new software and I have some time to actually do that -> Arch
I am aware of the controversy of recommending Arch, but most of the memes about its user-unfriendliness are probably as old as /g/ and don't reflect its current state.
>If you're a gamer
I would respond with the possibility of installing a "Gamer" oriented Arch distro like CachyOS, but trying to get that to do what I wanted was more of a headache than just using Arch and just installing the CachyOS kernel from the AUR. Speshul snowflake pre-riced distros are a maze of idiosyncratic decisions that you don't know about, just use a minimal distro or accept that you're installing a distro for whatever the maintainer is interested in and nothing else.
>>718907469
>Recommending Windows without any background in spreadsheets and menial office work.
You need to learn some basic shit either way. Yes, you can do some basic bash scripting for fun and personal profit on Linux (the profit being your time), but you really just need to know basic commands if that.

Just use Ubuntu, Mint is the most outdated distro

>>718906424 (OP)
I went the other way. Yesterday I removed that piece of garbage linux mint, and installed Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC, now I'm happy because all my games work

>>718907989
linux mint itself was never "hacked", their livejournal page was hijacked and pointed to a version of linux mint with a botnet preinstalled, and it was found extremely quickly
basically just download an ISO and wait 12 hours to see if any news broke, and then install it yourself. or check for an archived md5/checksum if you want to be a schizo about it

NTA but checking the checksum was the most annoying part of installing Min (it still wasn't that bad).

>>718907469
i switched to linux without any IT background, you just have to be willing to read documentation.

>>718906502
mint is not good, but linux gives you faster performance than windows so that's good.

>>718906424 (OP)
Mint is good, but it lacks HDR. Win10 has HDR. My recommendation is to distrohop to either Arch or Fedora because they support HDR

>>718906424 (OP)
based

>>718908885
Debian is completely taken over by dei nutjobs nowadays though. I'd be wary of its stability/reliability in the future when they're driving out any and all contributers and code that doesn't toe the line.

Editing game files for modding just feels "right" in terminal now.

>>718911920
can't you just switch to wayland on mint

>>718906424 (OP)
Install CachyOS

Cool, enjoy being retarded and falling for the Linux meme.

>>718906424 (OP)
I used it once but it was too clunky and old, I'm on fedora now and I'm a happy gamer

>>718912063
As far as I know, no. Mint only supports Xorg

>>718912758
Enjoy bill gates' dick up your ass, make sure your webcam is facing you at all times, he likes to watch.

>Linuxtroons spend many, many, MANY years proving that they're utterly incompetent when it comes to gaming and that their programmer tranny OS is a complete meme while games just work on Windows
>one day Gaben, a Windows chad, feels bored and walks up to linuxtroons being like "here, this is how you can make games work better on your meme OS"
>Linuxtroons declare victory and keep begging people to use their shitty OS because all games totally work but especially if you use Linux Super Cool Special Edition version 2.0 (this is the best linux version for sure this time bro)
Kek
Don't you have your discord servers or something
Just stay there

>>718913057
>linuxtroon instantly starts screaming about gay sex
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Also I have my webcam taped shut, dumb linuxtroon

>>718906584
Bazzite is terrible and has 20% less fps

>>718913123
Oh no winsissies, what are these tranny flags doing on your desktop? Why are there so many tranny flags everywhere on windows? Did they code your OS in a gay bar?

>>718913159
Bill gates rapes you daily
>Also I have my webcam taped shut
Why though? He wants to see.

>>718913196
Windows chads sometimes see a rainbow flag but they can ignore it
Linux is used and developed 90% by trannies
We are not the same

>>718906424 (OP)
See you in a week

>>718913259
why are you so defensive of windows? genuine question.

>>718913325
Because I used windows for decades and it always worked, including for gaming.
For the same amount of time Linux was always a complete joke, especially for gaming, and Gaben had to step in to help out.
Why I refuse to trust Linux should be obvious.

>>718906424 (OP)
The only reason I might consider going back to linux is that now chatgpt can find the answers to the most obscure questions in seconds on how to fix shit instead of wasting hours digging through every scattered forum for them.

>>718913378
>Because I used windows for decades and it always worked,
lmao

>>718913196
JUST. USE. FUCKING. LTSC.

>>718913378
>For decades, implying more than 2 at most
>Well known for its a very mixed track record for 20-30 years, the good-bad-Windows cycle is known even by normalfags
>Last usable Windows version launched in 2009 and even extended support for it was discontinued in 2020
>>718913419
>Hallucinating and drawing data from deprecated forum posts anyway.
Just use the Arch and Gentoo wiki, you're only going to need to dig through forums for meme distros and ricing scripts.

Mint is en excellent choice. It's stable and robust. Don't got for a "GAMER" distro unless you wanna turn your PC into a console.

I do recommend adding a PPA for newer MESA drivers if you wanna play CS2.

>>718906424 (OP)
Mint is a solid choice for a first distro. Hope you don't have too many issues and enjoy it.

>>718906424 (OP)
Mint is one of the few based distros not made by troons
The issue is Linux is hoarded by weirdo freaks but at the same time Windows is bloated spyware so there aren't many great choices

>>718913259
>Windows chads sometimes see a rainbow flag but they can ignore it
Nah you wintroons love seeing your tranny flags all over, you don't need to lie here. Who do you think programmed them into your OS? Trannies like you, and you love that. It's ok.

>>718906424 (OP)
>get my all my pc performance back
I daily drive Linux(Fedora) but this is only true if you have an AMD card. If you have Nvidia you get slightly less performance(though Nvidia said they were gonna fix DX12 performance very soon)

Don't give people unrealistic expectations.

>>718913891
If ppl are still buying nvidia in 2025 they dont deserve good performance desu desu senpai

Compiling programs on and for Linux is so much easier it isn't funny.

>>718913550
>>718913686
Any real arguments? Because I played hundreds of games on windows over the years. Before Gaben helped out "gaming on linux" boiled down to tux kart and windowed World of Warcraft without audio.
>>718913825
I'm not a troon, I never used Linux.

>>718913419
Eh, I wouldn't count that much on chat GPTs help they can be hit or miss. I remember I had issues with Dolby Digital movies (the colours were weird) the other day so I asked GPT what to do, and it gave some ass responses. The solution was to literally go to mpv's config file and add vo=gpu-next in it.
You need to have developed some sort of troubleshooting mindset before you start dealing with Linux, and be willing to ask questions on your distro forums. And also time and patience. And I mean that for every distro.

everyone says linux has better performance but intensive games like cyberpunk perform worse on proton for me

Eh, call me when Nvidia support is fixed. I aint taking 20% performance downgrade

>>718914384
>Any real arguments? Because I played hundreds of games on windows over the years. Before Gaben helped out "gaming on linux" boiled down to tux kart and windowed World of Warcraft without audio.
Do you really need an argument other than "Linux has gotten better, Windows has gotten worse"?

>>718906424 (OP)
>>>/g/

>>718914385
>You need to have developed some sort of troubleshooting mindset before you start dealing with Linux
It's both funny and sad that at my job how many people either say "THIS SHIT DOESN'T WORK!" or "Eh, I'll get over it" when they get an error that tells them exactly what is going on and sometimes even how to fix it.

>>718914519
Decades of windows working fine
vs
Decades of linux being shit
+
Linux "got better" thanks to outside influence.

>>718906601
boomer slop lol

>>718906424 (OP)
Where are the video games on this thread?

>>718906424 (OP)
You aren't doing shit. If you were going to switch you would have done it when Windows 7 hit EOL and cancer was you only Windows based option. You didn't. You bent over and dropped your pants and took it like a champ so now just let them and their large black friends finish like a good little slut.

>>718906424 (OP)
Wow look at that, the power of /pol/ faggotry racism to get someone motivated to try a broken, un-uniformed, so-called operating system.
You know I would be rather impressed if you can instead use FreeBSD for your boring stuff and networking and you then use some dedicated software distribution for gayming.

>>718910164
Why did you check the checksum?

>>718911920
It's not the distro that defines HDR support, but the desktop environment. KDE Plasma and Gnome should do the trick.

>>718906601
South cream with pancakes?

>>718906584
Bazzite literally bricks itself for no reason, it's the peak distro for people who don't do anything serious on their PC ever

>>718909421
God I could kill for some black and white pudding. Can't get that where I'm living now.

>>718914385
>You need to have developed some sort of troubleshooting mindset before you start dealing with Linux, and be willing to ask questions on your distro forums. And also time and patience. And I mean that for every distro.
...so Linux is a waste of time and you should just stay on debloated Windows with disabled telemetry, got it.

>>718917169
>you should just stay on debloated Windows with disabled telemetry
If you're a tranny. Linux is less work than that

>>718913419
Fair point. I've been doing that even though I've used Linux since 2016. My latest discussion was how to do LVM disk management. No need to search when the LLM can do that for you and filter out-of-date instructions.

>>718917252
yeah but you don't learn anything

>>718913419
>>718917252
Put's another spin into the sentence.
"I moved to Linux because of AI"

>>718917428
>yeah but you don't learn anything
People don't want to learn, they want to use their computer, get that through your head, especially gamers.

>>718917221
Yeah Linux is the lazy troon option
If you're lazy just install the Microsoft spyware, yeah it sucks but so does Linux and at least windows will work

>>718917221
I have literally never needed to go to microsoft forums and ask for any question with hardware compatibility or driver issues. Everything just works.
It's pointless anyway, you'd just be waiting for a jeet to give you the usual customer service "clear your cache and cookies saar" shtick

>>718917221
Linux is for trannies.

>>718906584
>fotm meme distros maintained by one or two trannies
when will you niggas learn

>>718917428
>ChatGPT gives me an answer
>It seems reasonable
>Try it and it works
>"I'll need to keep in mind that command since it works

>AAAAAAAA STOP USING LLMS YOU DIDN'T LEARN ANYTHING HELP ME NIGGERMAN!

>>718906424 (OP)
I'm not switching to Linux until it is idiot friendly because I'm stupid.

>>718917649
mint is idiot friendly
t. stupid

>>718917649
>I'm not switching to Linux until it is idiot friendly because I'm stupid.
Have you tried the nintendo switch, that shit is absolutley idiot proof.

>>718917736
yeah let me just fire up CAD and Excel and watch a 1440p movie on the Switch

>>718908885
You sound young. As you get older, you'll learn the value of having something simply work. Your time will be worth that much more to you.

>>718917818
>You sound young. As you get older, you'll learn the value of having something simply work. Your time will be worth that much more to you.
Soi kids, as usual.

>>718917807
That would actually work if consoles would just allow to ship webview wrappers since a lot of professional software is running in the browser anyway. But they're like Apple in that they'll never allow any method getting games outside their store unless the law forces them to.

>>718906424 (OP)
Using mint since july last year. It's pretty good. I most emulate and play Stardew Valley but the games I tried and worked were disgaea 5, ff12, tomb raider 4,5,6 remastered, Skyrim, Sonic ASRT
The ones that didn't work were little witch in the woods, Victoria 3 and Torchlight 2 but I only used steam idk if these games work on bottles/lutris/ etc
I like mint so much that nothing made me want to go back to windows but I miss using CSP tho

>>718913160
More like nvidia is evil and sabotages games that dont use their proprietary firmware. I can't think of any other scenario than that for your claim. It's less a problem as time goes on because driver updates get better, but I don't play those games in the firstplace anyhow.
>>718917106
>bricks for no reason!
>Huh? Of course I was trying to rpm-ostree all my packagages, I hate flathub.
>I also deserve to be able to change the config files and inadvertently fuck up my install
Gee I wonder why it bricked for no reason.
>>718917614
Nobara is maintained by two straight white men, a guy and his dad or brother or something.
Bazzite has a team of people, and that's a good thing because it means better and more frequent updates.

>>718906424 (OP)
You'll be back within a week, sadly
Someone needs to unfuck Linux

>>718918198
Those games might work if you switch to a newer proton version in game settings. No guarantees though.

>>718909421
Japan has some of the worst food imaginable

>>718906424 (OP)
>Using anything but cachy OS for gayming
NGMI

>>718918303
>let me just make up all sorts of reasons and strawmen to support my non-existent argument!
https://youtu.be/Bute69Oj87I?si=WbXdck2HkJ8n6U86&t=1350

>>718918401
do gaming os shills literally do nothing with their computer but game?

Why not use SteamOS?

>>718917493
>driver issues
Only winjeets suffer with drivers

>>718918460
It's just Arch with gaming focused optimizations. Pipe down faggot.

>>718918460
>do gaming os shills literally do nothing with their computer but game?
Hurrrr durrrrr gee williker idk

>>718918517
literally saying "black is white".
Water is dry
Jeets are human
Linux is not for trannies
see I can lie just as well!

>>718909421
pretty bold coming from Japan where they'll serve you a raw squid bollock on some rice and call it food

>>718906424 (OP)
You’ll go back to Windows within a week.

>>718918484
Cachy OS Handheld mogs that outdated shit. Installed it on my Deck day 1 never looked back.

>>718916929
it says to in the installation instructions

Debian 13 just released and that's what imma be using for years to come.

>>718918578
You have tranny flags on your computer though.

>>718918690
I use that on my pi 5 16GB desktop :)

>>718918407
>install malware (windows) next to your linux
>it currupts the bootloader because it is evil and doesnt want you using anything other than windows
>this is bazzite's fault somehow

>>718917818
>you'll learn the value of having something simply work
As someone who has been using Linux since 2006 when I installed my first box, it mostly "just works" for me while I still get called on to help relatives and family with their Windows computers. It's all about experience. For people who have been using Windows their whole lives, it feels like it just works because they have learnt how to fix shit in Windows when it stops working.

That said, if you're relying on software that only supports Windows officially, of course it is probably going to be more of a pain running it on Linux so unless you have some other reason for switching, staying on Windows might be for the best.

>>718913581
I.
AM.

>>718912924
Cinnamon still uses an ancient X11-centric keyboard library that GNOME dropped before they even supported Wayland. They have a long way to go.

>>718918741
>install malware (linux) next to your windows
>it corrupts the bootloader because it's a piece of shit coded by niggers in their spare time
>this is windows' fault somehow

>>718918701
You have tranny flags on your computer and phone and your room walls though.

>>718919445
No I don't, I don't use windows.

>>718909359
>>718906424 (OP)
>>718908885
>>718913768
>718913823
>>718918198
>Debian
>Mint
>Ubingo
LMAOOOOO stop trolling OP you fags

>>718919402
He's right you know, if you want to dual boot install Windows first Linux next.
If you install Linux first Malware next it will fuck up the bootloader 90% of the time.

Privacy, desktop environment and politics aside, why use linux over windows if its solely for gaming? I mean one werkz and one less so.

>>718921210
I have more control over my system. No start menu adds or preinstalled garbage.

>>718921514
What does that have to do with gaming?

>>718921210
If the literal only thing you care about is your games running, then no, there is no real reason to switch since an overwhelming majority are made with Windows in mind.

>>718906424 (OP)
>performance
>systemd
Lol

>>718921210
It's easier to sandbox all my games and their mods. You can create an entire Windows filesystem for each game using wine/proton and copy and paste it to other installs without any trouble or worry of fucking up anything else in your system. It's very convenient in that respect.

>>718921616
Not having to deal with window's bullshit is pretty big for gaming.
Me personally I have an arch session that runs without the desktop and goes right into big picture to play vidya.

>>718918741
its unfortunately a temporary and now fixed issue with the kernel and btrfs. if it was a nuked bootloader you wouldnt even be able to see the options to boot to bazzite. it was an issue where metadata gets corrupted if improperly shut down. its fixed now but its funny that linus tech tips and jay both got hit with very specific software bugs right as they were trying out linux and that were fixed just as they released the videos. this bug is fixable but requires you to boot a linux iso, mount the disk, and run a repair command.

>>718921210
considering 99% of my vidya is either on steam or emulation, gaming on linux has one extra step. enabling proton for everything on steam settings
that's it

>>718906502
>gaming
Are you twelve?

>>718913196
>This is considered gold in protondb
I'm just scared of buying a new game and then finding out it doesn't play on Linux because it sucks
Like pic related, on Windows everything just works

old /v/ used to shill against the botnet but nu/v/ are a bunch of goycattle first in line to buy the latest nvidia card to plop on their windows 11 machine, sad!

>>718922116
That says that game natively supports linux so you wouldn't need to use proton, if it doesn't work it's because the programmer didn't do their job properly.

>>718922190
american hours sucks for 4chan since about 2015. and theyre waking up now. so post quality and shilling will intensify for the next 12-16 hours.

>>718918639
https://youtu.be/ed88fkb2W0c?si=pvVnDGAS8XmtClLi

>>718922116
>https://www.protondb.com/app/2058180

Most users are claiming the game works just fine.
Reminder that anyone can submit a report on ProtonDB. You need to look at several reports.

>>718921920
Same. Have you figured out what to change in the system so that "Exit to desktop" doesn't just freeze steam? I usually have to connect with ssh and run `steam -shutdown` to get into SDDM

>>718906424 (OP)
Doesn't run Playnite 0/10

>>718922114
Why are you on a gaming board?

>>718921817
>You can create an entire Windows filesystem for each game worry of fucking up anything else in your system
That does sound convenient. The windows feels unintuitive and ticks me off more often than not. I played around with PopOS for a day and it felt miles more comfy. It uses GNOME I believe? However applications would occasionally hang and it would freeze everything like old OSX, that annoyed me and I never bothered to look for a solution and went back to wincuck. Maybe PopOS sucks.

>>718907349
what about multiplayer games

>>718921616
I would have to navigate through that garbage before and after gaming.

>>718921817
That and resetting the filesystem to its defaults just requires deleting said filesystem.

>>718922371
Americans worship public companies so it's not surprising.

I'm gonna install Linux on my GF's PC when I upgrade it soon, all she does is occasionally AA single player game and web browse.
I want something she'll be able to use without me explaining past the initial setup.
I've narrowed it down to Bazzite / Mint / Ubuntu in that order, anyone got any experience putting clueless retards on these? how'd they go?

>>718906424 (OP)
>PC performance
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
If you're on an AMD gpu, Linux Mint will give you significantly worse performance because of outdated mesa drivers. If you want performance install EndeavourOS or literally anything on a rolling release

>>718923492
There's a reason why SteamOS chose KDE Plasma.

>>718923642
Bazzite sounds good for that use case.

why would you ever use mint over ubuntu

Linux fucking sucks. Everything runs worse, everything.
Niggas opening a terminal to open a web browser and update it.

>>718923973
Way to out yourself as never using linux

>>718924049
Whatever nigga I know Mint has a package manager, Linux still sucks.

>>718923901
Cinnamon is 500 times better than base GNOME and you know it.

>>718924073
OK dumb nigger

>>718922878
>He's literally doing this meme
Why can winjeets only lie and slander linux, why don't they shill all the great new quality features of windows?

>>718924119
I can just switch to cinnamon. Is everyone in this fucking thread a retard?

>>718923731
COSMIC will solve that issue.

I like the base tools Mint comes preinstalled with, I like Timeshift, Mintupdate and I like the driver manager because it's very convenient and it's weird most other distros don't have anything like that out of the box.

I bought a Steam Deck to play VNs.
What am I in for?

>>718924798
Congrats on your new e-reader.

>>718924798
A good time. Mine is in for its 32GB RAM surgery and I'm ready to play more vidya!!!!!!!

>>718924798
Good time and the potential to do more if you so desire.

If I buy a Steamdeck + the dock, can I basically use it as an off-brand desktop PC/Switch by connecting it to an external display and just leaving it always plugged in?

Mint's entire aesthetic and its prebundled applications are all extremely kino, and I love Cinnamon as a DE. It's just that Mint's packages are from the year 400 BC and so I'll never use it for anything requiring a lot of performance

>>718906502
Works great. Only thing is you have to run some games through Steam or Lutris, you can't just double click on everything and expect them all to work.

>>718922114
(You)

>>718921210
SOME (not all/the ones you care about) games work better in Linux.

>>718921210
I just don't want to use Windows 11

>>718925151
Yes and no. Gamemode supports only one display at a time. If you go into desktop, it works as expected. Any dock will do as it's just a PC. The official dock has one HDMI and one DP so choose accordingly.

i tried bros, i tried mint and it simply didn't work
installed steam and it downloaded a fuckton of those proton stuff, none of my games launched
tried installing wine but still nothing, i had no idea what to do next and got tired of it, went back to w10
i swear to god i want to use linux but holy fuck this is a nightmare for me

>>718926786
Use cachy you stupid fucking fuck holy fuck

>>718906424 (OP)
For me, it's Arch

>>718926786
I tried mint and it just werks, sounds like a you problem

>>718926786
I had no problem installing steam and running everything through proton. Dunno where you could've gone wrong.

>>718926786
>This retarded wintroon transnigger was 1 click away from getting his gaymes to work
Thank fuck the filter is working fuck off forever

>>718906424 (OP)
Let me guess, you need more?

>>718923650
Couldn't you just… install the new driver manually?

which distros are reddit so i can avoid them

>>718926786
Let me guess, nvidia card?

>>718928834
yeah, lol

>>718906502
i remember last time i tried mint WINE was being a bitch and i being the dumb fuck i am couldn't figure out what was wrong. This time around is fine, i'm playing emulated stuff through mednafen and pcsx2 and it just werks. Hopefully in a few years i'll man up and try arch

>>718928585
>want to use linux
>complains about reddit
you're in the wrong place, faggot