Thread 718919690

Thy thoughts on Skyblivion?

anything using skyrim as a base cannot be good

>>718919690 (OP)
just makes me wonder if it'd be faster to remake oblivon and skyrim in morrowinds engine

>>718921870
It would, just taking away voice acting removes a substantial amount of work

>>718919690 (OP)
Is it making changes to level scaling and loot? If yes than maybe, if not its irredeemable garbage.

Waste of time.

>>718919713
Fpwp

>>718922041
>Is it making changes to level scaling and loot?
It will be similar to Skyrim

>>718919690 (OP)
Neat project, superior to the UE5 demaster by virtue of being a fan remake over a corporate reheating. Oblivion's biggest issue (well, after the retconned main quest and ugly visuals) is its might-as-well-be-copypasted caves and forts and this will turn them into Skyrim dungeons, each unique while sharing tileset. Also, making unique weapons actually unique by giving them distinctive models and not just a different name. They'll add more variety to the Deadlands, to other Princes' realms, it's clearly made with love and I have to assume Rebelzize is an actually good project leader/manager because while the likes of Skywind or Beyond Skyrim seem to waste years heading nowhere, this dude has stuck to a schedule for nearly a decade and is managing to release the project without (seemingly) delays. I also feel sorry for what he went through with his gf :(

>google skyoblivion release date
>2025

skipped the remaster to wait for this, i want dual wielding, are they adding perk trees? Or hamfisting oblivion's system somehow

>>718919690 (OP)
Every video update they say "coming soon".
Every video update they are looking to recruit to do a lot of work they mention.
Just check it out for yourself.

Kek.

>>718923528
the release date has always been 2025 since 2023. They are set on releasing it this year.

I doubt it comes out this year like they hope, but it'll be better than Bethesda's slop

I'm excited for Skyblivion. I don't find many of Oblivion's quests particularly interesting or well written, but the prospect of being able to have my big boob jiggle physics Orc walk around the kindo forests of Cyrodil sounds pretty fun

>>718919690 (OP)
it will probably be better than es6

>>718921924
>It would, just taking away voice acting removes a substantial amount of work
Skyblivion uses only the original voices

>>718924103
They still need to extract them, port them, splice them in, adapt them to quests and to whatever differences Skyrim's Creation Engine had from Oblivion's Gamebryo, QA test the entire game so they play right, etc.
You remove the middle step of having to record them yourself like Skywind and Beyond Skyrim need to do, sure, but it's still more work than it'd be to just copypaste a couple text paragraphs and call it a day

>>718922928
>retconned main quest

>>718923856
Making perks situational is not the solution to "boring" flat rates. This guy is retarded.

>>718919690 (OP)
Fucking retarded decision to not switch to a more modern version of the creation engine when development got serious.

I think it was around late 2016.

They added more variety to ayleid ruins

>>718924485
They're using SE.

>>718924551
Neat

>>718924591
They are?

>>718924425
>"Uriel Septim is sick, and wizards say his heir and the younger Septims are just doppelgangers placed in the household during Jagar Tharn's tenure as Imperial Battlemage. They say the Guard charged a mob demanding destruction of the false heirs... lots of folks were killed"
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Generic_Dialogue_U#Unrest_in_Cyrodiil_City
>"Like all members of the Morag Tong, Dram worships Sithis, the God of Death; indeed, he is a thrice-born initiate who continues his faith even after his exile"
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/General:Redguard.com_Archive/Characters
>"I found this particular passage among the papers of the Tharnatos. [...] The Dark Brotherhood was born in these times– which, in Morrowind, is known as the Morag Tong. [...] Are all the simulacra accounted for? [...] I have uncovered nothing explicitly tying the Morag Tong to Tharnatos, but my suspicions grow stonger. [...] As for the simulacra, at last report the Blades were on the trail of the last three. I continue to hope that one of the nephews may have avoided the fate [...] even he may yet prove only one actor in a great conspiracy against us"
https://www.imperial-library.info/content/redguard-forum-madness
>"I am coming to believe the rumors of dopplegangers infesting the Empire after reading what “Hasphat Antabolis” has been posting in my name. [...] Flee while you can, and take your Wisdom with you. Your Era is ending. Nirn reborn will have no room for your kind, and the smoke of your pyres will be sweet in the nostrils of all true Heretics. Tharnatos Ultimo"
https://www.imperial-library.info/content/masser-and-secunda
>"I have uncovered a conspiracy that stretches back to Dawntime and the split of Aldmeris"
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/General:Nu-Mantia_Intercept

>>718919690 (OP)
This project is not dead at all, and it's a shame if the modders decide to give up. This conversion let people use the Skyrim mods, on the Oblivion world. I would not superficially understimate that potential.

>>718924425
>>718925192
>"In my romantic notion of how things might have been, I really think Oblivion was poorer for not including the Elder Council stuff, the really elaborate kingmaker role the player would’ve taken on, and a horror vibe to what happened to Septim’s heirs which we had set up way back in Morrowind. [...] There was talk of holding a torch near important members of the court to see if they cast a human shadow and not some horrible, hunched over clawed thing. There was an invasion from another faction from within.
https://www.reddit.com/r/teslore/comments/okc6tp/comment/h587et8/
>"Warhaft had a big role in a now-lost questline for Oblivion"
https://www.reddit.com/r/teslore/comments/2s3x83/comment/cnm0lyp/
>"The title and a bit of plot for Oblivion existed. Rolston put in some hints about what it would be in Morrowind. But the actual Oblivion plot wasn't that"
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/General:Douglas_Goodall%27s_Posts#2023
Oblivion's plot was meant to revolve around Uriel's heirs being daedric doppelgängers left behind by Jagar Tharn during the Simulacrum, and a Morag Tong-resurrected Tharnatos leading a Daedric invasion while the Empire crumbles from internal politics and the player is involved with the Elder Council, rooting snatchers out with torches and shadows. What you got was a dumbed down version made for people that hadn't played TES previosuly, so all foreshadowing became moot and for a game that starts with the death of the Emperor that was focal to all previous mainline games in the franchise, there's zero fucking weight behind the assassination of him and his heirs: the Elder Council is utterly irrelevant until you need to speak with Ocato five minutes before the main quest ends, and the entirety of Cyrodiil is as cheerful and sunny as ever so you'd never think the whole place is meant to be "crumbling". It doesn't feel like the Emperor died yesterday. Nobody cares. The world doesn't care.

>>718925234
there is 100% going to be a new booming era of mods

>>718919690 (OP)
The Unreal Engine is a total pain in the ass to mod, and you're very limited compared to the Creation engine, so the new game Bethesda released, is limited and can easly be overtaken by SkyBlivion, that can not only replicate the same graphics, but do so, without the usual UE stuttering problems.

>>718919690 (OP)
Eagerly waiting for my globe-trotting mercenary playthrough with this and some other land mods

Also Beyond Skyrim Bruma was 8 years ago and other Beyond Skyrim projects are nowhere near done for no good reason inb4 troons

>>718924454
Interesting perk combinations sounds better than "One-Handed weapons do 20% more damage"

>>718923796
>2025 since 2023
JEJ

>>718925773
they had no release date prior that

E33 won

>>718925295
Absolutely. Bethesda has been completely mad in not joining these guys, giving them official support for this project, releasing the UE version instead. Seriously.

>>718925243
>sunny as ever so you'd never think the whole place is meant to be "crumbling". It doesn't feel like the Emperor died yesterday. Nobody cares. The world doesn't care.
Oblivion always had this fairly tale tone to it, complete with "By golly Mrs. Henderson, those pesky demons are at it again!" voice acting. The battle of Bruma is 15 dudes fending off 10 daedras while it's business as usual in the nearby stables.

>>718925192
>>718925243
Forum posts are not canon, and the mention of doppelgangers from Morrowind is just hearsay. Also, the death of the emperor means everything: the guards are constantly talking that they fear where the empire will end now that there's no emperor, and seeing daedra everywhere; the Blades failed in their duty and is eating at them, especially Baurus; and random citizens worry about the assasination too.
>entirety of Cyrodiil is as cheerful and sunny as ever
What, you want everything to be dark and grim and broody 24/7? Are you one of those who believes having color is childish? Because you forget Morrowind was extremely sunny too, and the threat was just as dangerous there as the Mythic Dawn is.

>>718919690 (OP)
Pretty good, but why does every city need a child brothel?

>>718925950
arthmoor insisted on it

some maga worked on this so i will pass

>>718925950
Men have needs you know.

>>718925931
I'm sorry you grew up with Oblivion anon, but going "no u" to a quote by a literal developer saying "yeah that Morrowind line was meant to foreshadow Oblivion's main quest but then they changed it" isn't an argument. I'll accept the concession.

>>718919690 (OP)
Colossal, retarded waste of time. All of the time, effort, and creative energy could have been put into making something interesting and original but instead was dumped into recreating an existing game that took so long Bethesda themselves beat them to the punch.

>>718926070
the fuck is "a maga"?

>>718919713
retard

>>718927185
but the bethesda remake sucks monkey balls and i dropped it. Having a the whole of oblivion in the skyrim engine is huge

>>718919690 (OP)
Biggest problem with it is that they still don't have enough scripters/programmers.
Quests are still not fully implemented and they are by far the most time consuming/unfun part of Skyrim modding. No one wants to do that shit in their free time.
There's no way that will magically change in the next 5 months

>>718927414
It would have been smarter and probably taken less time to backport Skyrim features to Oblivion

>>718927285
mod all games angrily

>>718927185
The point is recreating it in Skyrim's engine to allow Skyrim mods as well as making the overall game map bigger. That's the appeal, you can travel from Anvil to Dawnstar and back

>>718926481
Yes, outside posts are not canon. On the other hand:
>We realize that the end of the era will bring many changes. We believe that the gates of Oblivion will open, and the multitude of daedra will roam this world freely. Some might tell you that this is a good thing, that we are descended from the daedra and it will be a return to the natural order of things. I know differently, though. The coming age will be a time of great horror.
>The Daedra Princes are not our ancestors. Nor are they our allies. They will wash over the land, destroying all that man and mer have built over these thousands of years. The only protection from this scourge will be our true ancestors that have gone before us and watch over us even now. Many of our followers choose to participate in the Cleansing, to prepare the way for the rest of us. It is a sacrifice to be sure, but it is for the greater good.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Tribunal:Eno_Romari

>%PCClass, the skull of Oddfrid White-Lip is speaking to me, telling me your future. She says...she says you have accomplished much here on Solstheim, and your future is unclear. But wait! She sees something else. Something very cloudy, something that could affect us all. When the dragon dies, the Empire dies. Where is the lost dragon's blood, the Empire's sire? And from the womb of the void, who shall stem the blood tide? I...I do not know what this means. It is very unclear....
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Bloodmoon:Geilir_the_Mumbling

From Morrowind itself, and so canon.

>>718919690 (OP)
Made irrelevant by the Remaster. Well even more irrelevant.

>>718925243
Can you really retcon a fanfic? Sorry your headcanon didn't work out.

why would anyone give a fuck about this when skywind looks so much more interesting?

>>718927185
Anon, nobody remembers the demaster and it's not even been half a year. Elder Scrolls YouTubers tried to make videos about it like they've been doing Skyrim for 15 years but they stopped after a handful of 'em because nobody cared

>>718928039
the more the merrier
its not a zero sum game

>>718927709
Now is when you reread the "Tharnatos leading a Daedric invasion while the Empire crumbles" part and I keep accepting the concession.

I'm excited to play it in skyrim vr

>>718928071
The remaster sold 9 million copies.
I doubt the mod will reach that many free downloads.

The mod will come and go with the same impact as Fallout London. None.

>>718928039
Because that one doesn't come out in less than 4 months

>>718919690 (OP)
I chuckle every time I see this and am reminded that Bethesda basically destroyed any and all hype because these "folks" couldn't finish their shitty mod within a decade lmao.

>>718928253
D-did you say... Skyrim VR?!?! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>718928398
>sold 9 million copies
>8.3 million people stopped playing after Vilverin

>>718928559
The mod won't even sniff a 10th of the interest.
So just remember how awful you portray the Remaster the mod is going to have far less interest.
> At least the mod is free.
Jannies of the game world.

>>718919690 (OP)
Developers raised a fag flag in june on discord

>>718925898
Skyrim's death of the High King is felt more than the fucking Emperor of Tamriel in the Imperial Province lel

>>718928702
>l-le INTEREST! SALESSALESSALESNUMBERSSALESSALE-
I don't care about sales. I don't care about journo articles. I won't play the outsourced UE5 slop. I will play the fan remake. You will keep coping.

>>718928221
As I said, forum posts are not canon, so even if the Tharnatos thing existed it was dropped, so it doesn't have any saying on what came later.

>>718919690 (OP)
Looks interesting and I like a lot of the changes they're making, I'm interested in seeing how the dungeons turn out.
desu I cant really see myself putting heaps of time into it when it does come out though. I already played oblivion so many times as a teen I cant really see myself playing all the way through it again, even as a remake.
I only ended up putting 20-30 hours into the remaster. These days I'm more of a morrowind or heavily modded skyrim kind of guy.

>>718919690 (OP)
why not just play oblivion?

>>718929114
Be as hipster as you like. I am not the boss of you.
I am just pointing out you chose wisely.

imagine wasting your life FOR FREE on a project that was already done and remade by professionals.

>>718928789
Cyrodiil has fallen, billions must die.

>>718929142
>even if the Tharnatos thing existed it was dropped
Thus >>718922928. No different than Cyrodiil being a jungle. Come up with something anon or I'll be forced to stop gifting you (You)s.

>>718929114
also you will be able to actually run it at a stable 60+ fps, unlike the jeetmaster.

>>718929205
because i hate the copy pasted caves and ayleid ruines

>>718929251
people do this shit just to put it on their resume and then get into the industry afterwards.

>>718923856
Hate this shit. Just give me the number.

Hoping by the time Skywind and Skyblivion are out we can get something like Tale Of Two Wastelands to go from one campaign to the other. Mite B cool

>>718929535
He's been working on this shit for like 10 years. If it was just about getting a real job there are easier ways.

>>718929814
Isn't that the point of this whole thing?

>>718929814
In the perfect world, it'll be wild. Mods to import weapons and armor from one project to the other. Mods to go from 3E Cyrodiil (Skyblivion) to 4E Cyrodiil (Beyond Skyrim). Mods to add mechanics from modded Skyrim directly to these new projects. Mods to go from pre-Red Year Vvanderfell to post-Red Year Vvanderfell. Cohesion mods that distribute new weapons and armors to vanilla NPCs based on their backstory and what parts of the world they come from.

We just need to wait until 2045 for it to become a reality.

>>718930146
no. that's beyond skyrim

>>718923876
Wrong, tranny.

What happened to oldblivion

>>718927285
he meant "naga"
guy hates snakegirls

>>718927484
no

>>718925515
What's the troons thing? I liked Bruma a good bit and was excited for more regions, but yeah feels like they've done fuck all in a million years. Is the project dead?

>>718925515
>other land mods
that shit won't be compatible with skyblivion dude, it's a total conversion that changes everything