Thread 718936512

why do ppl say this is the best jrpg ever? it fucking sucks. i first started out with the silver guy and then did his story but it didnt feel like he was a main character and has zero aura so i started over as the samurai guy and i just finished his story and i dont get why people even say this is a good jrpg? the story seems like it sucks and it just has no aura and the graphics are actually so mid and brown and washed out. it doesnt even look good, it's blurry. the bloom looks bad. the game does not look good in motion and it has a stupid day/night cycle where you can just have it at anytime you want, like what exactly is the point of that

>>718936512 (OP)
Because it is great. It looks great, the music is good, the characters are decent and each story has everything for everyone, the gameplay is fun, quick and hits the peaks it needs to hit. As simple as that.

>>718936512 (OP)
it’s bad, people have no standards anymore

>>718936512 (OP)
It's a great fucking game, a world fun to explore as you see fit, lots of secrets and the game doesn't hold your hand when it comes to side quests, but you actually have to use your brains. Since you don't like games, I suggest you go watch Netflix or something, you'll find stories there.

You can turn the bloom off. In general whenever you open a new game you should go straight to settings and make the game look good to you.

>>718936718
it does not look "great". the story is not good at least for the silver guy and the samurai. none of the characters have any aura. the gameplay is just typical jrpg. u didnt even specify anything

>>718936512 (OP)
>aura
>aura
>aura

Atmosphere you mean? and yeah, i find the games lacking. I stsrted the demo of live a live and it has everything this game lacks. which is ambition, personality and atmosphere. Which in jrpgs are like fundamental for me.

>>718937247
>u didnt even specify anything
I specified in every aspect that matters.
The graphics are pretty. I like the sprites, i like the lightning, i like the bosses unique battle sprites.
The music is really, really pretty, and it fits every single place. The boss battle themes are pretty cool and hype.

>>718937486
no i mean aura. it's like you want to be that guy. all these characters are dweebs, especially the silver guy with the annoying aah crying about capitalism

>>718938069
This game and the JRPG genre in general is not made for people of your age zoomie.

>>718936512 (OP)
Octopath series is for people new to jrpgs.

>>718936512 (OP)
fag

>>718937247
>u didnt even specify anything
This isn't debate class. I don't have to specify shit. Reality is objectivity. I conceive reality from my own perception. I perceive Octopath 2 as amazing if you disagree you are a fragment of my subconscious trying to keep the illusion of reality not being my own construct in place so my power doesn't get out of hand. Anything you disagree with me on is wrong for I am the literal god of this realm you are nothing but a peon who will disappear the second I leave this thread and forget about you.

yeah im a jrpg, square loving weeb but the octopath games are some of most uninspired trash ive ever played. ive played rpgmaker porn games with more originality and heart

>>718938493
Why is it that people who can write like Octopath 2 and people who can't write dislike Octopath 2 in this thread?

I got both of the games bundled on sale and I don't think I can finish the first game, its so boring. The characters I actually like have their chapter 2 on the other side of the map at a much higher level where I get insta killed in random battles if I try to go to them. None of the characters acknowledge each other's existence and every single story follows the same exact template and the boss fights are just finding the weakness and hammering it till they die. There's no real overarching story just fragmented characters totally isolated from each other who happen to be traveling together and never speak to each other.
Its a pretty shit setup for a jrpg quite frankly, I can't believe how much praise this received, probably not gonna both with the second game because it looks very similar.

>>718938493
>>718938783
the thing about being 17 years old and having your first psych 101 thoughts is that we older boomers already went through that phase

Octopath received the Nintendo Bonus due to how it was exclusive to the Switch for awhile. Or was it the Wii? Whichever one. When it came to PC more people started to play it and find out it was sort of mediocre, most notable for Sqeenix's returning to the old Final Fantasy aesthetic back when FF was a Nintendo game instead of a Sony game.

>>718939330
Since you are an older boomer and very knowledgeable when it comes to JRPGs, mind telling which old school JRPG/s Octopath resembles? I know the answer, but I feel like testing you.

>>718939432
>Octopath received the Nintendo Bonus due to how it was exclusive to the Switch for awhile.
I completely forgot it was exclusive to switch originally, explains everything.

>>718939618
Yeah tendies thought it was exclusive so they praised it a lot, they even got mad when they saw it wasn't kek

>>718936512 (OP)
>why do ppl say this is the best jrpg ever?
who said this?
it's not the best jrpg ever nor is it even in the top 10, but it's still an excellent game and easily a top 3 jrpg of the decade and you are a filtered zoomie.

>>718939607
that was my first post in the thread so i dont know if you think im someone else but asking me to randomly compare games seems pointless.

the most apt comparison i can think of is a generic basic rpg maker game with no unique mechanics or interesting story whatsoever, usuing all basic default assets. thats what it feels like playing.
like attack, items defend, a few fire, ice, lightningagic, a linear leveling system with generic noname dungeons with random encounters vs generic enemies, boring basic animations, on top of the most generic storytelling and completr lack of world building.

im sure id be impressed if it was the first ever rpg ive played in my life but unfortunately its not.

Octopath felt bad to me in the same way picrel was, just less egregiously so. Had potential but felt like the story and characters were written independant of each other, the gameplay is pretty uninspiring. Diofield really brought these problems to a new level, though. Such wasted potential that just torpedos itself after the first (brief) half of the game

>>718939840
not op but im 36 years old and the games suck ass. snes rpgs like chrono trigger still btfo these games by a large margin

>>718940080
Nvm, I misread your post in general, turns out I can't read myself. But have a good one.

>>718936512 (OP)
it is sucks. looks cheap, bad, plays pretty average-mediocre too

well this is some game yes. some game.

>>718940171
>(game that's considered one of the best of all time in the genre) btfo's (great game)
are you mentally fucking retarded? what is wrong with "jrpg fans" on this shithole board? why can you fat bastards not enjoy more than one thing?

>>718940171
That's because chronotrigger was written by a team of people that had actually talked to and worked with each other. If someone had told me that octopath was almost entirely done by ai I would not be the least bit surprised

>>718936512 (OP)
>has zero aura
kek

>>718940330
i can enjoy two good things. i too am tired of endless comparisons and fights over which of 2 good games is better, like burnout 3 vs 4 or dead rising 1 vs 2.

but octopath just isnt good, at all. its not comparing chrono trigger and ffx, its like comparing burnout 3 or 4 vs big rigs.

>>718940171
You don't like games, you like characters.

>>718941492
Octopath is a boring game. The lack of a coherent character design and story just makes it unfun

>>718942462
You aren't talking about anything related to games, you are just talking about characters and stories. Talk about mechanics, exploration, secrets, strategy, planning, the way you can choose how to play through this game. That's why I said you don't like games, you like characters. You probably play with walkthroughs.

>>718938069
That's called charisma, you fucking retard. Even underage faggots can recognize "rizz" so why can't you?

>>718942617
>mechanics
You mean rock paper scissors? I didn't say anything about the mechanics because it's incredibly 2 dimensional, there isn't much to say about them at all

>>718939432
>Octopath received the Nintendo Bonus due to how it was exclusive to the Switch for awhile. Or was it the Wii? Whichever one. When it came to PC more people started to play it and find out it was sort of mediocre

No it's just shit to play on PC.

Are you seriously sitting at a fucking desk to play OctopathTraveler? I can't even begin to imagine how shit that must be.

These are cute retro-styled storybook games which abosultely shine on a system like Switch, playing a chapter a night, tucked up up in bed.

>>718942931
The game doesn't have a rock-paper-scissor system. There are weaknesses, but they don't come with strengths. By mechanics I mean all the game mechanics in the game; the job system, the boost system, the active/passive skills, special skills each character has and so on. The game has a great superboss which is a challenge to beat assuming you don't use guides, so good luck.

>>718942931
If you were to compare Octopath's and Chrono Trigger's game mechanics, what would your response to be?

>>718936512 (OP)
I simply never played it because the artstyle is ugly as fuck. I hate these new "HD pixel art" games with depth of field and bloom. It looks really tacky. Wish they would just commit to the bit and make a traditional 2d game with good pixel art.

>>718943512
>turbokid
Jesus I forgot about this movie. Went in thinking it was going to be complete dogshit but was very pleasantly surprised

>>718936512 (OP)
Because it is retard

>>718942694
imagine being so confident yet so wrong. rizz is about rizzing up a girl, thats not aura. ur the retard

>>718945584
>Went in thinking it was going to be complete dogshit but was very pleasantly surprised

Same.

>why do ppl say this is the best jrpg ever?
It has my wife Ochette Octopath

>>718936718
I'm playing 1 right now and is 2 significantly better? Cuase with 1 I'm not really seeing it. The music has never once stood out to me and the story is the most dull, generic shit ever. Game is great but it's absolutely being carried by it's 10/10 combat and art. Though the regular mobs suck so I wish there was a way to speed it up

Is this game worth playing? What makes it so good?

>>718950129
retards say it is, but not really. combat and balance is worse due to devs dumbing down the enemies and bosses and giving you a ton of overpowered shit at the beginning due to all the tendies that cried about fights being too “grindy” during 1’s release. on the flipside there’s now a 2x speed option for combat.
>>718949964
off model

>>718950697
In what way is the balance worse? I'm only just on the 2nd act of each character so I'm not far in but so far I've seen basically no reason to ever swap Mage man and Cleric woman from my team so I've just spent the entire game(I got them 2nd and 3rd after the merchant) swapping out only my 4th slot cause they're all way less useful.

i liked it because its a jrpg thats just a jrpg. i liked it in the same way i liked 2016 doom.

its also nice because there's not a lot of missables, you can just go in blind finish all the story in whatever order you want, and not worry about being locked out of anything.

also the patch that added the super boss fights -- true vide was one of the hardest jrpg boss fights i've ever played and was pretty memorable.

>>718950129
1 and 2 were very similar to me -- i actually liked the leveling system of 1 a little better because i thought it had more cool switchable passives, like the ones you get with rune knight. in 1, i was grinding to get every skill because there were so many good ones. in 2, i had all the skills i wanted like 70% through the game, with no need to grind.

that said 2 makes things like animal summons not suck ass, and you can learn really cool techniques from dueling people.

overall i liked them both more or less equally

>>718949385
Stop talking like a zoomer

>>718950897
it sounds to me like you haven’t unlocked subjobs yet which might make things hard to explain. but for starters if you start with the thief you immediately get access to an advanced subjob in her starting town that can effortlessly destroy all random encounters in one turn.
in general 2 unit
as a side note the apothecary guy’s concoct heals better than the cleric woman’s but costs materials that you can get with the merchant girl’s purchase and also drop from trash mobs. the merchant girl also becomes || the strongest damage dealer by the endgame with the right setup while the mage man falls off by midgame ||

>>718950897
i dont know if you've gotten to the point, but at a point in the game you can give each character two classes and swap passives learned by the characters. there's also special classes or whatever they are called you can get by beating optional bosses.

your primary class is fixed, the second can be swapped.

some of the special classes are just straight up full on upgrades of basic classes to the extent that one might consider, for instance, warrior and the warrior special class as being highly redundant. in a case like that, there's such overlap that, from a versatility standpoint, you might be better off with a different primary class

the actual base stats between characters, if i remember right, aren't that crazy, and you can use nuts to make up for them.

part of the fun is in figuring out what combinations you like.

>>718951671
forgot how to spoiler text on this site, myb, haven’t talked in /v/ much since they implemented the 120 sec wait time for posts

>>718951671
>>718951723
Oh yeah I have only gotten one sub job so far which was thief as I got it on the way to the 2nd act for merchant which I slapped on her since it gives her that passive to sometimes attack when you use her money acquiring skill. I could see the apothecary guy being a better healer but honestly he seemed too complicated and I couldn't be bother trying every combo of item to figure out where the best effects are but I'll probably do it later.

>>718950697
*on model
ftfy

>>718951671
>if you start with the thief you immediately get access to an advanced subjob in her starting town
The Thief is a girl?

>>718936512 (OP)
>why do ppl say this is the best jrpg ever?

Literally no one says that.

I'm very curious about how 0 is going to turn out since it's supposedly a recreation of the now EOS'd gacha game made into a normal game.

>>718936512 (OP)
It is that good desu

>>718953524
I'd say the pacing of having to do 8 prologues in a row before you get our full party kind of prevents it from being great. Game has some of the worst pacing I've ever seen in a JRPG it starts off so awfully.

>>718952390
2’s is, 1’s a bloke.
He was talking about how 2 was less balanced, hence bringing up the female thief from 2 which gets the inventor job (second best advanced job) immediately after leaving her starter town

>>718949385
faggot

>>718954120
Ah my bad. Yeah I think I'm going to go around and find at least 4 sub jobs so I can equip my main team. Though I'm not really sure how stats with weapon equips work and how damage scales off them with skills and if the added weapons even matters. I don't think it takes all of your equiped weapons into account when dealing damage so is it just the one you currently have on?

>>718954159
Faggot

>>718950968
I specifically never used Ophilia and the hunter bitch cause I fucking hated those weird summon skills.

>>718954368
a spear skill is going to scale based on the patk you get with your equipped spear, sword with your sword, etc.,
elemental attacks just automatically take from the highest eatk weapon you have, so if you give some dude a staff with +300 eatk, giving them a knife with +200 eatk is going to do nothing and you’d be better off putting that on someone else

>>718954870
That's really good to know. Thanks anon

>>718943512
I don't play my PC games at a desk.

>>718950129
different flavors of generic. example:
>1’s warrior is a generic medieval fantasy warrior
>2’s warrior is a generic anime protagonist with a dark side that gives him superpowers (he fights it off with the power of friendship
>1’s dancer is generic kill bill shit
>2’s dancer is about a shojo protag who wants to be an idol
2 stories do tend to be more dramatic though. I think you can still enjoy the stories even if they are generic, not everything has to be groundbreaking. I remember liking the apothecary and merchant in 1 but different people have different tastes. heck, different people can see the same “generic” story and walk away with vastly different interpretations see this retard >>718938069 (2’s merchant is literally the most pro capitalist story I’ve ever experienced in a video game).

>>718956157
Nope Partitio is a communist

>>718936512 (OP)
>Zero aura
lmao

>>718936512 (OP)
why don't you try Expedition 33 and get embarrassed that you ever shilled this awful generic nolstagiabait identityless 2.5D slop?

>>718957441
i quoted the wrong post

>>718956485
Frfr

Am I insane or is the probability of success for these shitty field skills just straight up lying to me?

>>718940143
Oh wow, someone else actually played that dogshit game

>>718936512 (OP)
OT1 and 2 are both very mixed games. Personally, I like the HD2D style, but I recognize it's a very divisive style. The fractured, individualized stories for each of the 8 characters does more harm than good IMO as it prevents there from being an overall plot or unifying boss until the very end through a stupid secret boss that some players will never even see. The voice acting is a mixed bag. About the only universally good thing about Octopath is the combat, which is frankly my main reason for even playing these games. If you don't like the combat, you might as well skip the games since they don't have much else going for them.

if you've played either octopath and you haven't played saga frontier you're a tendie cuck.

>>718936512 (OP)
Kinopath Traveler

>>718960363
This.
Some of the music is pretty good too. Though it's not as insanely good as some people here will make it out to be.

>>718960363
I don't get why people don't like the HD2D art style. I love it. Though I don't think a single game has done it as good as OT yet.

>>718960474
What the fuck is a tendie nigga

>>718962519
Because the market was saturated with HD2D games.

>>718936512 (OP)
Was this the best rpg of 2023?

>>718966041
>""""""""""RPG""""""""""

>>718966483
What else would you call it?

it could have been good if it wasnt so fucking easy. these games had a ton of potential but just werent super fun or interesting

Octopath 0 will be the one chance it has to actually compete against Final Fantasy and SaGa, so far it's been just an average JRPG series.

>>718954717
for octopath 2 there are some pretty good summons, but ochette, the hunter for octopath 2 is extremely good, to the extent that her summons were the only way i could beat extra battles mode bosses.

in octopath 1 monsters have a set amount of summons then disappear, in octopath 2 you can summon them infinite times after capture, AND ochette gets a skill to make them get summoned up to 5 times a turn. some of the monsters can cast shit like auto-revive and spell reflect (i think the caits) on the entire party, so its pretty busted.

there's also a way to cheat and make her use ultimate monsters several times (that are supposed to be one use per battle), but its not even really necessary with how busted summons already are once you can do 5 monster per turn summons, and summons like caits are ridiculous enough anyway.

>>718967646
>easy
they mostly are, but, again, extra battles octopath 2 is among the hardest jrpg bosses ive seen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puAfxPvotYA

You type like a fucking uneducated zoomer.
>aura
>aura
zoom zoom retard

>>718967818
>Octopath 0 will be the one chance it has to actually compete against Final Fantasy
It's never going to compete against FF.
OT doesn't have a single memorable character that's going to be remembered in 5 years from now.

>>718936718
>It looks great
do people actually fucking believe this
we are beyond salvation

>>718969294
Neither does Final Fantasy, the only people who still care about a select few of those cardboard cutouts are a bunch of bitter 40 years old reminiscing about a glorious past that never actually existed

>>718967818
OT0 is a cash grab.

>>718970060
>Octofag
>calling characters from other franchises cardboard cutouts
The irony lmao

i played octopath 1, and it was good for a while but the novelty wore off halfway through. repetitive as fuck.

>>718956429
Partition is anti-corporativist capitalist.
He represents what true free market is about and how moral plays an important part of that.

Partitio was the last character I added to the party because I thought he would be lesst interesting, but he's insane charisma conquered me.
He is such a Chad that even the scrivener that brought back the main villain was affected by his actions

>>718970913
Bro can’t even spell Partitio right. Zero aura mf frfr

>>718938069
this is actually hilarious, since Partitio ends up being the chadest motherfucker of the party.
He charms even his Chapter Boss, being one of the 2 that doesn't kill it.

Thread is useless without the OST
https://youtu.be/0wrdwiR0pCo
https://youtu.be/23F7lA8jbTE
https://youtu.be/YoCR8pyfjPU

>>718936512 (OP)
>day/night version of all village/area theme
>all 8 character has their different version of the boss fight song
Octopath was pretty good but the music carried it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWbj65mn_uQ&

>>718971746
That mashup is insane but only those who played the entire game can appreciate.
And I agree, if it wasn't for the music I don't think the story would make the same impact ( except Castii, that reveal was mind-blowing).

>>718971521
Kino

>>718936718
It became trivial to break around level 15 and by the time I hit level 45 it hadn't gotten any harder. Every non-boss died in one hit and no matter how good the stories were I wasn't getting anything out of them half asleep

>>718970334
Where did I say I like Octopath?

>>718962519
Because it looks like a mess of post-processing effects that can't be turned off in game.

>>718936512 (OP)
Name 5 people who claimed that

>>718974403
In your post retard

>>718974336
Fight the super boss anon

>UH OH PAGE 10
>HAVE TO BUMP MY PET THREAD
I wonder why some autists are obsessed with keeping threads for dogshit games alive.

>>718936512 (OP)
I have a difficult time enjoying this game as well

>HD2D
I don't even need to play this to know it's garbage.

>>718981070
Shouldn't you be dilating right now?

>aura
just kys my man

Even though I mostly liked the game, I did not enjoy playing half the cast of Octo II. The priest was like some smug redditor. I guess that's cool to that demographic, but he annoyed the fuck out of me. Don't like that merchant guy either, even though his skills were OP. Some of the stories were bizarre and grim (Throne's especially). Like some kind of weird fever dream. Very unique, but unique doesn't always mean I enjoyed it.

>>718981070
Bro has no aura or chill lmao

>>718981070
Get fucked nigga

>>718981657
No

>>718936718
That doesn’t make it one of the best just a decent game

>>718936512 (OP)
No

>>718940143
>but felt like the story and characters were written independent of each other
They absolutely were, Andrias is doing shit in the dark the entire game and that's the plot. The problem is that the character who is carrying the game fucks off to carry the rest of the plot, and no one else is given more screen time to compensate. You just get more Fred who is supposed to be an unlikable fuck up.

They also add a bunch of things to the library after finishing the game without telling the player. I wonder if they intended to have an NG+ with scenes added to get the full story but ran out of time/money.

Fuck

>>718967646
These games are meant to be played by young children who have little experience with any other games, if the characters, story and gameplay didn't already give it away

>>718940143
>Had potential but felt like the story and characters were written independant of each other
They were. That's a common criticism of these games.
Feels like they couldn't manage to write one single grand tale with 8 main characters so instead they just wrote a bunch of generic short stories, slapped them together and called it a day.

>>718999338
Yeah. Games like DQIV and LiveAlive are far superior games with the same premise.

>>718997370
>meant to be played by young
>Octopath
You can't be in your 30's if you are this stupid. I'll assure you kids don't talk about Octopath 2, they talk about MOBAs, shooting games, Fortnite, Minecraft, all that crap. There is not a single school bus anywhere in the world where there would be kids talking about Octopath 1 and 2. Octopaths are clearly games designed for old school JRPG fans. SNES era. You owned SNES back in the day, right?

>>718936512 (OP)
Peak gamepay

>>718967646
Octopath 2's balance is fucked (because you overlevel; Octopath 1 kept you underleveled and required grind,) that's true. But the superboss is the most difficult boss of any JRPG, even if compared to Trails, Tales, Mana and Saga series.

>>718997370
If a kid was to try and play Octopath, let me tell you what would happen:
>ugh, why do these characters look flat... they look very pixely
>ugh, I just started a side quest, why doesn't it tell me where to go to complete it...
>ugh, why doesn't this game have movie scenes, I lack imagination so I can't immerse myself into these sprite conversations
>ugh, why doesn't the game tell me where to go next, why must I decide myself, this is so confusing
>words words, reading is boring, I want action and gacha mechanics
>ugh, this game is so grindy, it requires me to fight so many battles, it's like all you do in this game is battle
And so on and so on. So basically you.

>>718999703
>they talk about MOBAs, shooting games, Fortnite, Minecraft, all that crap
Tbf pretty much all of those games are more interesting than OT.
It's just completely uninspired. It doesn't warrant discussion the same way old SNES games like Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana and FF did.

>sics wild animals on innocent bystanders
>GOOD JOBBU!
Why is she so perfect?

>>719000094
They're all crap, you just share taste with children. MOBAs are dumbified RTS, shooting games are just point-and-click, Fortnite is a predatory gacha scheme designed to rid kids of their money, Minecraft is legos.

Only Red Orchestra was good and that's because it was designed to be a historical game for history nerds. And there were no kids around when it was active.

>>719000094
Why should it warrant discussion? Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen was a great game but it doesn't warrant discussion either. Similarly you can talk a lot about BG3 even when it's a shit game, especially compared to BG1 and BG2.

I listen to the OST almost every day while working. I would have never become so productive without octopath.