Thread 718939526

it's better than banjo now

>>718939526 (OP)

so what exactly did they change

>>718939685
super mario odyssey + yooka laylee

>>718939526 (OP)
did they fix the fundamentally shitty level design?

>>718939781

That doesn’t answer anything

>>718939796
No. Its still shit and soulless

>>718939796
yes cause you have all movement abilities from the beginning now

>>718939796
they did
i tested the demo they changed the location of every collectible

>>718939526 (OP)
>Small company can afford to put game on normal cartridge
>Big company uses gay card
Why?

>>718939526 (OP)
This will always be a shitty bootleg of Banjo-Kazooie made by grifters.

Is it at closer to being BK-tier? If the levels are large and empty like Tooie, I don’t know if I have it in me to play it.

>>718940643
They’re lazy as shit and want to see if consumers will purchase their shitty ports anyways.

>>718939526 (OP)
Are 95% of the bosses still walls or attached to a wall?

>worse graphics
>same shitty levels
>fucking terrible performance

How is this better than anything?

>>718939796
Kind of. The levels are now in their big state by default and the only changes is placing the collectibles in other places. adding a few new collectible types and giving you a map, but the levels are still big, empty and uninteresting without any good setpieces.

>>718941026
the levels are not really empty anymore

>>718941026
the guy from gameXplain said, its polished like its made from a tripple a studio now

>>718941026
>If the levels are large and empty like Tooie
yea

>>718941263
>all movement abilities from the beginning now
>levels are now in their big state by default
so they removed progression?

>>718943137
no? progression is tied to pagies

>>718943137
You can still unlock stuff at Vendi at least, though it's shit like tonics and merch. Apparently there are some "game changing" unlockables in there but who knows what that means.

I'm not gonna cry about them removing the level expansion mechanic cause it was a failed attempt to bridge the gap between BK and BT's levels, but the levels were already big and uninteresting by default anyway. But the moves thing is strange, I'll say that.

>>718943234
that doesn't answer the question. Providing the entire moveset and unlocking the whole level at the beginning removes progression

They better give us a release date on the 29th

>>718943490
the world unlocks were stupid to begin with and most of them just were blatantly just "level but unfinished" rather than a new area opened up. the only world that did this well was the casino one and that world sucked ass either way

>>718939685
They added gay anti soul gas and cranked the contrast up my 200%

>>718941263
>worse graphics
We are trollinnnnn

>>718944037
just look at the screenshot above yours. plus yooka and laylee look too fucking detailed, laylee's a fucking shaggy ass motherfucker now, ugh

>replaylee
nintendo is going to get away with this again and they're openly mocking you for it

>>718944173
Subjective disagreements aside, the original game had blurry PS3 textures including the dimension-less grass and horrible hard lighting like the 1st level and basically no lighting like the factory level.

This looks like a decent improvement all around - particles, textures, overall resolution. The Rextro levels look like a whole new different game (because it is) and way sharper. And this doesn't mention the re-designed levels, goals, and so on.

If they let people upgrade for a reasonable price, no one has any reason to bitch. I'd be more open to people complaining about the original considering all the money they raked in off of the Kickstarter.

>>718943986
Looks a million times better

>>718939685
Since no one has listed the changes allow me to do it
>level geometry, empty spaces meant for decoration have been removed or repurposed to have stuff
>new type of collectible, coins. infinite collectible meant to buy costumes and shit. There are challenges in the world to get a bunch at once
>every collectible location has been altered with
>every challenge has been altered with
>you get every move from the beginning, certain moves like flying remove
>worlds are expanded to begin with
>moveset completely revamped, you can chain moves and theres no stamina for rolling. movement also feels much better in general
>there's a circle shadow under your character like a lot of other 3d platformers
>rolling controls a lot better
>no double jump, jump works like banjo now
>there's a map and fast travel now
>cutscenes have been altered heavily
>all bosses have been altered with, animations, mechanics e.t.c.
>all rextro minigames have been removed and replaced with captain toad-like levels where you control rextro
>cart segments have been revamped, not enough footage of this though
>there are twice as many pagies
that's about it as far as we know

I bought the kickstarter but never got around to playing it so I guess I'll wait for this.

>>718944809
forgot to say, quills are no longer hidden in retarded locations

>>718944809
>worlds are expanded to begin with
Good, the world expansion was such a shitty feature.
>damn I can only explore half of the level because I didn't expand it yet and when I do I have to do an entire second loop of the whole area

>>718943986
The light rays are distracting and the contrast unfortunately seems toned down, but the assets look better on the whole.

>>718944173
I actually like that, I always felt they looked way to plain

i'm more excited for this than bubsy 4d

>>718945113
>world expansion was such a shitty feature
doesn't Metroid do this? I thought replayability when your character is more powerful was the point

>>718945508
people dont like yookah laylee so anything it does is inherently bad

>>718939526 (OP)
I am boughting

>>718945508
It worked in Metroid because, beyond the first few games, YOU COULD TELL WHERE THE FUCK YOU WERE. Making levels that were already big and aimless even bigger just makes them worse. This is something that all 3D platformers, from SM64 to Banjo to Tooie to Conker, did right.

>>718939526 (OP)
>Yooka-Rapelay

I haven’t played yooka laylee so I don’t know how they compare but I’d say banjo and kazooie look way better as character designs.

>>718945127
The light rays also don't make any sense, unless there's a giant tree offscreen.

>>718946395
this pisses me off so much, I loved the game, and now everyone is going to play the remaster and claim it's good now

it was good then you fucks

>>718948519
it was pretty meh all things considered and i liked the game (i've finished it twice, once on pc and once on switch)
replaylee just makes it what it should've been to begin with, a modern banjo-kazooie game

>>718948519
>it was good then you fucks
lol no it wasn't. it was a mediocre platformer from the 64 era with nothing new besides a handful of good jokes, blurry graphics, and a bad framerate.

impossible lair is actually competently made nostalgiabait but that's all this franchise is and will ever be.

>>718948639
they promised me an N64 game, and I enjoyed my N64 game
I hate everyone who underrated it

>>718948828
it was what they promised me and it was so fun and interesting, the remaster is only going to be good by merit of how good the original is. eat a bag of cocks

>>718948945
I'm not trying to piss in your cereal, just being honest. I would love more platformers, especially story driven platformers, but I think YL has hit its peak. I'll gladly buy this remake but it is what it is.

If they want to compete in the modern gaming world, I'd say they need to make a spiritual sequel to Conker and bring back some edge and humor.

>>718949290
may not be trying to in my cereal but a successor to Conker is certainly taking a piss..
competing in modern gaming is probably just about what the remaster is, fluid animations bubbly characters, the Mario Odyssey style, the one Bubsy 4D is sporting now

>>718948519
>it was good then you fucks
no yooka laylee game is good and id be surprised if replaylee is. the level models are mostly the same, too big and forgettable. that was always the biggest issue and they didnt fix it

if were lucky theyll never fix the performance issues of the demo as well so itll look *and* run worse than the original

>7 years for a remake
How!?

>>718939526 (OP)
Switch 2 is cooked of this is considered a milestone release.

>>718949820
retardbro..

>>718944809
Is it already out? I actually liked the original so seeing all this makes me want to buy it.

>>718950187
no, they've announced the announcement of the release date like three times now and keep delaying the announcement with another announcement
they said we'd get more news yesterday and the news was that we'd get more news on the 29th
i'm not sure if this is on brand with ex-rare devs or not.

>>718950274
the original was good yet critically panned i do not blame them

>>718949676
*too small and unforgettable
only problem was i want more game

>>718939526 (OP)
I've been waiting so long for this. Its so retarded they havent announced anything. The lastest announcement is that they're going to have an announcement.

why is the furry bubsy game getting more attention than this
is it genuinely just furries?

>>718951287
Busby 4D just got announced. This was announced years ago and still doesnt have a release date or even a demo

>>718951476
it did have a demo
they removed it though because the pc version was unoptimized and didn't support steam deck

>>718951523
>only put out a demo on pc
>it runs like fucking shit

good game

>>718949820
>>718949894
Retardbro is basically correct though. Impossible Lair was 2019. Curve 1 year off for Covid and 6 months for internal paper shuffling and that's still 4.5 years.

>>718952015
this isn't their only project, they have an actual sequel in development which is why they made this game, to put the IP in a good state
not to mention they became a publishing company too

>>718949820
the whole publishing thing being a failure and yooka laylee 2 not getting funding forced their hands i think

>>718939526 (OP)
Banjo: Cool bear
Yooka: Gay ugly lizard

What were they thinking?

>>718952114
>this isn't their only project
If memory serves, they've done this cock teasing for years.

>they have an actual sequel in development which is why they made this game
If the sequel drops next year, it's a good move, but I doubt it desu.

>>718952118
>publishing thing being a failure
I don't think you can say that - Demon Turf and Gator Game are pretty popular and sequel/DLC out soon. Is there hard numbers on this?

>>718952524
>Is there hard numbers on this?
No but they've published much more than those two games and they've had to let people go recently. Between that and the fact they had to remake YL1 in the first place, it doesn't spell success.

>>718952584
the people they let go were mostly artists, community staff and publishing staff (most women)
i think it was 14 people overall

>>718952584
I think Cattle Country and that basketball game didn't do well but I mean, I don't think they huge money invested in either. They seem to be taking the Devolver approach. I could be wrong

The YL remake is strange but could be viewed as a way of growing the team in a sustainable way while they learn the dev tools. Just speculation

>>718939526 (OP)
Did they say the price? If it's low, I may pick it up

>>718952990
switch 2 version physical fully on cart is 50 dollars
we don't know about the digital price and they promised that owners of the original game will get a discount

>>718943986
first looks like Golf with your Friends.

Yooka-Ripofflaylee


Will buy on Day1.

>>718953115
>>switch 2 version physical fully on cart is 50 dollars
jeez, i bought til physically for 40 and felt ripped off

>>718954054
same
i will eat my rareslop and i WILL be happy
bananza fed me so much

>>718939526 (OP)
>it's better than banjo now
Not hard to do really. Banjo games were never fun to move around in like Mario, missing the point of the entire genre, and as a result the challenges suck.

>>718955275
if you don't like how banjo moves, you'll fucking hate the yooka games with their weightless and floaty controls and no good ways to chain moves together

>>718955397
good thing that's exactly what replaylee adresses

>>718955483
the move chaining yes, the weightless and floaty controls, i don't know. didn't get to play the demo cause i heard it performed like shit and now it's gone

>>718944809
>worlds are expanded to begin with
that is so gay

>>718955638
The worlds should have been made smaller and have some actual setpieces but I guess that's out of scope.

>>718945047
>quills are no longer hidden
that is so gay

I hope the reviews say that now it's even worse, that would be so funny.

>>718955705
>ignoring the setpieces that were in the game
that is so gay

>>718955796
everyone that has tried the game has said it's better

>>718955818
when im exploring a world i need a bunch of noticable and unique setpieces to help me get around without a map. mario 64 understood this, banjo understood this, yooka laylee didnt. i kept getting lost in that fucking game. feel free to whine about skill issue because i dont have this issue in other 3d platformers, just yooka laylee.

>>718955929
it remains to be seen if replaylee sort of adresses this, i know that dead space has essentially been eliminated though
there are checkpoints like odyssey with fast travel so i think that might also help a lot

>>718956156
the map and fast travel are more like bandaids than a proper solution. i suppose the budget and time for redesigning levels wasn't there but it's still not elegant

>>718956225
my issue wasn't actually set pieces but rather the dead space that were placed for the sake of decoration, which wasn't present in the banjo games, so many times in YL you'd try to climb onto something only to realize it has nothing to do with the level

>>718956364
that's true, there *is* a lot of dead space. maybe if there was less of it, the setpieces the worlds do have would stood out more?

omg where the set piece idk where to go oh my me

>>718944217
This is a crowdfunded game. It doesn't have a platform of choice

>>718956580
pretty much
also placing collectibles like quills in locations that guide you around the level is another option they have, as YL took the Tooie approach of just scattering them around randomly (and Tooie didn't even have many notes whilst YL had 200 quills per level) which made for a pretty subpar experience

>>718949676
Impossible Lair was objectively good. Try again

>>718944173
Smooth Laylee always looked like utter shit.
Granted that Yooka looked bad too. And they still look bad even in the remake.
The designs are honestly not terribly good. But giving fur to Laylee is an improvement. Even if they look scraggly.

I need my collectibles to just be in front of me so I can hold up on the analog stick and have them all

>>718949820
company restructuring and ownership by Tencent

>>718956981
>levels are so easy they're dull
>except for the impossible lair itself which is a hard as balls 30-45 minute level with three boss fights why
>constant doors are a pace breaker
>overuses the same three level gimmicks - buzzsaws, windmills and conveyor belts
>overuses the same three level themes - forests, factories and towns
>shitty camera keeps hiding things like lava or twit coins off-screen
>generic enemy designs
>overuses the same enemy types - generic blue guys, generic green guys in jetpacks and giant crabs with other enemies only rarely appearing
>controls feel unsatisfying and weightless, no good sense of momentum
>laylee is a shitty health system because she gets stuck on terrain or clips through terrain constantly, she disappears way too quickly unless you use the catchee tonic and if you lose her you might as well kill yourself because she's required for a lot of twit coins
>twit coins are a pain to get because they keep reusing that "gotta jump off an enemy that doesn't respawn" setup, are behind a door you can't go back into or require laylee
>can't even ignore the fucking coins because they're mandatory for progression
>without a tonic you lose coins on death what is this the fucking NES
>outside of a handful, tonics pretty useless
>those overworld puzzles you literally can't solve without looking them up online, the game literally tells you to do this
>super buggy at launch; capital b accidentally being unkillable, no spawn animations for enemies, getting stuck on terrain, clipping out of bounds etc
>can't even remap the fucking keyboard controls

Objectively good my ass. Everything TIL does was done better in DKC, either the old or new games. Some levels are straight up fucking rip offs.

>>718957746
Most of your criticisms comes down to the game requiring you to fully commit to your platforming and being too retarded to figure out puzzles. Skill issue.

>>718957017
I think most of the character/enemy designs are on the weak side but Capital Bee looks pretty good.

>>718957746
>impossible lair is impossible for me
gitgud

>>718960321
Hur hur I called it impossible so it's fine if I make the level way too long and bullshit hard. Fuck off cunt, if only 5% if your users beat the game even though you can get a shield with 48 hits, you did something wrong.

>>718944217
What does nintendo have to do with anything?

>>718944809
So it no longer feels like my first unity project?

>>718960429
beating games is a terrible metric in 2025, there's too many games to play

>>718960884
I've seen Kaizo tier platformers with higher completion rates than TIL. I find that very notable.

>>718960928
That doesn't reflect the sheer volume of people not even touching romhacks.

>>718961328
I'm talking about 2D platformers on Steam dude, not ROM hacks. I don't know how many people beat ROM hacks, they don't got achievements.

this is the only hope for collectathon games that aren't nintendo