Thread 718942223

Post your city
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWw13brw-1E

I saw a pic of Liberty City from GTA 3 recreated in SimCity 4 one time. Does anyone have it?

YOU CAN'T CUT BACK THE JANNIES' WAGES! YOU WILL REGRET THIS!

City skylines 2 good yet?

>>718946276
No and it probably never will be.

>>718946576
man...

What mods do I need to make sea ports in SC4 work?

>>718942223 (OP)
looks good anon. i like your grids, iand i mean thta im not being a dick. nice city park on that hill too. hope you have a good day.

is this good yet?

>>718947921
Thanks anon

>>718942223 (OP)
what do they eat?

>>718949228
Gutter oil

What went so wrong?

>>718952145
always online requirement

>>718942223 (OP)
what's wrong with your goddamn highway

>>718952145
Javascript.

>Tropico 7 announced at Gayscom
>not even a peep
KWAB

>>718953357
>KWAB
what does this mean

>>718952145
EA

>>718948058
No and its pretty obvious the dev cashed in and scooted

>>718952145
EAs obsession with early GAAS concepts
Ruined Sims 4 too

>>718952145
I liked it. The always online was stupid, I agree. But finally being able to play SimCity in full 3D and zoom in and move the camera all around was nice, not to mention the curved roads!

I hope they re-release it on Steam before the end of this year.

>>718953357
Yeah but is there any difference between Tropico 3,4,5,6 or 7? Its just a reason for kalypso to pump out a constant stream of DLC that ends up making the core concept more and more less appealing. For me it doesnt even seem like a Cuba simulator anymore

>>718954101
Shut up, faggot.

>>718952145
The real problem was tiny city lots. If they made them at least 4 times larger then people would've still be playing it since it has much more charm than cities skylines.

>>718950671
mods?

>>718954607
I don't know, it's not mine lol

>>718952328
he wanted the roller coaster audience.

>>718950671
Those houses are getting washed away.

>>718953453
Kevin was always based

>>718942223 (OP)
it's been however many years and i still find SC4 beautiful to look at

>>718952145
>pirate it with cities of tomorrow
>install bigger plots mod
>best city builder on the market

>>718956521
>pirate it
I'm afraid of malware

>>718956608
aint nobody putting malware in a 2013 city builder game my man

>>718956608
Cmon man use some of common sense and use trusted sites (eg Reddit (yeah i know) or cs.rin they also have an list)

>>718957209
I highly doubt reddit would be any help. They're the biggest corporate bootlicking moralfag cucks about piracy.

>>718957270
reddit is the only reason I can reliably find 1080p pirated streams of live sports

>>718957270
That is all true but for begginer pirate they are good start at least i think that.

Still the king

>>718958163
I've lost my home through no fault of my own :(

>>718953453
It doesn't mean anything, it's just something zoomers say.
>that mid shit was straight bussing, kwab

>>718958163
I love the character portraits in 3K

>>718959584
didn't mean to reply, oops

>>718958163
I found the manual for this game in the books section at a thrift store. I miss manuals :(

Are there actually any good city builders coming out? Most modern ones seem like a reskin of banished

>>718942223 (OP)
Simcity 4 is usually my go-to citybuilder, but I might try Cities Skylines sometime. Are any of the DLCs essential to enjoyment? Is it best to start with the vanilla game? Any essential mods?

I've got the base game, Industries, Mass Transit and Sunset Harbour currently.

>>718948058
The EA hype release was decent but there was no follow through.
If you want this type of sim, Foundation is actually out and in a fairly deep progression state compared to Manor Lords.

I REALLY want to make a city builder with a drum and bass soundtrack and perpetually gloomy weather.

>>718963148
are you me?

What mods should I get for SC4 besides NAM?

Does anyone have more gifs like this? the advisor heads in happy/angry?

>>718953453
>kek what a bitch

>>718966981
Now thats how you reuse the sims assets

>>718950671
walkable favela

>>718966238
Made one just for you

Wish Tlatoani got more players/discussion. I guess its a side effect of people not knowing how enormous and cool mesoamerican cities were

>>718971151
Can you do human sacrifices in this game?

>>718971963
yes

>>718972095
Sweat, I'll check it out.

>>718952145
Literally a facebook/social media game.

>>718958163
I'm tarded and cant get my GoG copy to run. It's always super jittery and running way too fast. love Zeus/Poseidon though

>>718958163
for me, it's Emperor

>>718954196
>making the core concept more and more less appealing
what the fuck is that sentence?

anyway, isn't it kind of in line with real life? those banana republics tropico was riffing on are doing all sorts of crazy shit nowadays: mega-prisons for the usa, state-owned bitcoin farms, digital slavery etc.

>>718973603
I wish they would've done something like Emperor, but set in ancient Rome. China just doesn't appeal to me that much.

>>718974608
you mean this game?

>>718974752
Chris Watts Core

>>718954196
It's slowly morphing into City Skylines, didn't play 1 but 2-4 was Simcity: Latinx Dictator edition

>>718974608
You mean this game?

>>718974752
what do they eat?

>>718974997
They subsist entirely on sunlight.

>>718961592
Pic was surprisingly pleasant, though its pretty early days. I think the district system a la manor lords is fleshed out a bit nicer, and the devs seem to care more than that ruskie

>>718952145
cities of tomorrow was actually fun

>city builder
:|
>city builder with cute sperg secretary
:D

this is more for factorio fags maybe but I have been really enjoying captain of industry

Sure, maybe no one has jobs, but they DO have a replica of the Taj Mahal

>>718977296
Why would I want a woman in my autism game?

>>718959584
>financial advisor is a fucking cheapskate always bitching about money
>transport minister is a fat greedy cunt who is actively lining his own pockets and cries foul when you cut back on his shekels
>chink bitch is fine for the most part until the commercial districts start going to shit even with the generous tax breaks and balanced distribution of well for all classes
>green finger cunt is always crying about muh environment and the need to invest in high technology
>police commissar starts actively brutalizing the populace for bad hair or crying babies in public when crime completely bottoms out leaving her boys with nothing better to do
>education minister occasionally cries about the proles getting stupider but otherwise he's fine since a decent amount of libraries, schools and uni will usually shut him up
>Utilities man is a bro all year around until your water pumps and fusion generators start exploding in real time taking down the whole network in the process

How come there's no cyberpunk citybuilding games? Huge opportunity there. Bonus points if it's targeted to mature audiences.

>>718977983
*wealth

>>718977983
SC3K is just pure soulkino, I don't know how else to put it.

>>718970438
thanks Anon, you're a star

>>718978035
Simcity 3000 is about the closet when you consider that fusion energy is a viable method to keep your cities going. Also Magnasanti being the most detailed depictions of a proto hivecity/cyberpunk hellscape. Right down to the tumbling statistics and quality of life for the poor faggots forced to live through it for 50k years uninterrupted. Don't let the cheerful color scheme fool you there is a a lot of dark shit running beneath it.

>>718978035
There's a game called Dystopika with neat cyberpunk aesthetics, but it's just a sandbox with no systems or management whatsoever sadly.

>>718978201
>representative from the poorfag bowling league is complaining that he can't take his little Suzie out for some sloppa Joes because the taxes are just too damn high
>been set at 1 for the last 20 years
This fucking guy

>>718971151
Why the fuck didn't anyone tell me that that was a thing? Always fucking wanted a Mesoamerican city builder.

>>718978201
This is what I missed from other city builders, City Skylines little twitter thing was ok but it needed more events that made me feel the city was alive.

>>718978839
>whole game slows to a crawl because they decided to throw a massive party through main street because their lives are actually worth living

why can't we have a modern version of this?
also 2D > 3D

>>718977780
Because she also has autism.

>install CAM
>7700X chugs

For me it's SimCity 3000

>>718977451
hello frogman

>>718980170
Glad to see you're taking the "what do they eat" question seriously

>>718946276
They went back on the supposed ending of DLC for CS1, that answers your question. I wonder if they will do another CS1 expansion at this point, i look foward to playing CS2 like 5 years from now.

>>718957270
Anon reddit has more discussion than this place nowdays, unfortunatly.

What in the absolute fuck were these retards thinking?

>>718980365
They weren't thinking at all. Is the game even any better at this point?

>>718979259
I cannot play 2d city builders, i just dont like not being able to look at the city i built from all angles. I dont get how people can just play the 2d ones, you cant appreciate the city at all.

I bought Workers and Resources last sale and finally started it. It's kinda nice so far, I expected to hate the logistics autism but it's not that bad.
I'm still at the very start though.
I wish there were more beautification options, especially since they went hard on those back in the day IRL. Half the parks around me are from Soviet days.

nobody members cities xl

>>718980636
it looks aesthetic but your perspective makes sense

>>718980636
Your perspective makes no sense because this genre thrived for like 20 years before any 3D ones came along.

>>718980274
I assume the metropolises survive on some type of onions green for sustenance

>>718971151
Oh it's in early access. Fuck I swear every time there's a city builder I want to play it's in shitty ass EA

>>718980738
I'm waiting for more content to come out for the early start dlc to start another game
check out the workshop page, tons of decorations
what realism settings are you using?

>>718981767
I'll check the workshop, thanks. Also I'm just playing the default settings.

>>718946276
>he STILL has hope for this turd
anon, just play cs1 or sc4

>>718981947
Make sure to ease your way into the more real settings.
I usually play with winter turned off so I don't get everything wiped out by a few lazy heating workers.

>>718980365
What's the problem? Just buy a bigger CPU and GPU. Are you poor? Huh? You a poorfag? Buy better hardware. Don't be poor. Spend money.

>>718953453
'fraid so

>>718961636
i've only played vanilla, no mods or dlc, and it's alright. i do wonder what i'm missing sometimes

>>718977309
same
very good autism game

>>718977296
A-Train is actually peak, but I wish they would make a new game that fleshes out the city building stuff even more, instead of re-releasing a-train 9 for the 4th time

Please God make Anno 117 good.

I just want everybody to know that in Lessaria, Majesty's spiritual successor, they hired the Majesty's Advisor VA to voice the Advisor there.

>>718983713
I hope it plays better than it looks. Hate how 90% of western fantasy games are done in this diahrrea warcraft-like style.

>>718943884
It's not difficult. Sim City 4 allowed you to take a template from an image and then trace geography around it.

>>718961636
At a technical level; Cities Skylines is the closest thing you'll get to a true successor to Sim City 4. However, it lacks all of the quirky charm of Will Wright's Maxis. I always felt SC4 was the last true Maxis game before everything after felt like they were EA games first.

>>718980636
2Ds still beat 3Ds at scale, and lots of players understandably always want to build BIG cities

How do i play sc4 good?
I can play it like a game, get profit, move onto the next sector. But i cant work transport (the guy saying THIS intersection sucks). And none of my cities look pretty.
Or do i just repeat the same formula every single time for like 8 sectors till i have 1 giant sprawl on the world map? Thats no fun.

>>718984581
You can already build huge cities in modern builders like skyline and tropico 6

>>718985254
Still not as big as the ones in SC4
Especially when you realize just how much empty space Skylines has between everything compared to how compact everything can be in an old 2D grid game

>>718984708
here

I can't turn off the autism. Help.

Would probably be better in 4 where slopes aren't unbuildable but then I would go headlong into the modding fuckfest.

>>718985507
there ya go

Post old memes.

>>718985426
nice swastika

>>718953904
So glad I held back
My patience is fucking infinite

>>718985593
hell hortler :-DDDDDDD

How do you get past the budget limit that forces constantly placing things where you can instead of where you want them in a broader plan? Seems very counter-autistic for what the genre requires.

>>718949228
Good fucking point. I've never seen these games have agricultural zoning.

>>718953453
It means ignore anything else they say.

>>718985853
A farm is the very first fucking thing that you see when starting up SimCity 3000.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VujK9xWy5V4

>>718985853
I can't think of major ones that don't? SC3, 4, Skylines all have farm zoning functions

>>718985853
>I've never seen these games have agricultural zoning.
How have you managed to only play city builders that DON'T have farms? Because like, most of them do...

What's the best city builder for making real megacities? I want to make a city of over 10m people damn it

>>718980738
I hate that you aren't allowed to build churches at all, so even if everything else is fine, your citizens are constantly miserable about not being able to go to church. If I'm centrally planning an entire republic, then I should have some amount of freedom about it. Just have some complaining and punishments from the Soviets if you build churches.

>>718985804
I think no game does this worse than Foundation. The region unlock system bottlenecks me so much it's unreal.

>>718981503
They just import food like IRL cities do.

>>718977983
Eco-bitch will shut down your water pumps if she thinks there's too much pollution, then everyone moves out because of the water shortage

>>718986668
SimCity: India

>Simcity has reactors that clearly have containment buildings explode and pollute your land with unremovable fallout if you don't demolish them before 50 years
>Workers and Resources has reactors that are clearly RBMKs work fine

>>718986732
More like Beijing, there's not enough trash or shit on the streets.

>>718986732
Streets are too clean

>>718986381
If that's the case, w-wheres all the cemeteries...

Skylines coming out and everyone going nuts with traffic engineering with the flexible road system was a fun time. Shame that the actual traffic simulation was dogshit with cars all piling up in one lane and forcing the player to design around it. That one thing is actually what made me quit the game before really experiencing much of it because I realized the need to preplan road design (for later even if it wasn't necessary early on) in such a weird way (I think I had meant to build a one-way network with splitting to force traffic to use all lanes) and it was a goddamn fun vacuum.

>>718986858
They bury them outside the city, where land is cheaper.

>>718986759
Yeah its annoying when le dangerous nooclear power memes get built in as game mechanics

Timberborn is good

>>718986830
Rape Street seems a nice place to live

Against the Storm is also good

>walk out to build new house as start of new development to bring in a resource
>hit it twice and then decide to work on a different building instead while God isn't watching
>get put back where I belong
>hit it once and walk back home to eat
>walk out again to continue building
>hit it once and walk back home to get a tool
>walk out again to continue building it
>hit it once and wander off to deposit the log I randomly picked up
>job optimization pulse happens and I get assigned a different job
>new builder is on the opposite side of the map from his old job
>walk out to build....
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>

>>718986998
I'd be fine with it if you could have the option to build an expensive but safe reactor that works fine or a much cheaper but more dangerous reactor that has a chance to blow up, which is why Workers and Resources also did it in a retarded way.

>>718986759
>>718986998
I HATE IT

>>718987272
Maybe I should just spitefully stop playing your game then Maxis, how about that?

>>718986759
>>718986998
>>718987294

>>718987145
Are the DLCs worth it?

>>718974608
You mean this game?

>>718987550
Keepers of the Stone is alright, frogs are a bit annoying sine they only live in frog houses but are useful and if anything reduce the chance of having to deal with foxes. I like the coastal grove but not a fan of the ashen thicket.
Didn't realize that Nightwatchers was out already so I can't comment on it.

>>718987537
Uranium mining has poisoned thousands of people because like most other mining companies, they were historically evil and negligent.
Reactor waste itself at least they aren't dumping straight into your local environment.

>>718987182
Woah, realistic construction workers!

>>718987550
No and yes? I love the game enough that More Of The Same is worth a few bucks. Frankly I bought them just for more of Mikołaj Kurpios' oozing dark soundtracks. Nightwatchers is better than the frog one.

>>718987537
>BN-800
The more autistic city builders like Workers and Resources should include things like reprocessing and breeding.

>>718986759
>>718986998
The one game that I give a pass for pulling that shit is Anno 2070, and that's because they have the excuse of being Krauts and fucking retarded.

>>718987879
>implying governments aren't owned by oil/coal and are paid to suppress nuclear energy

>>718987879
Nuclear power solves the problem
Pollies don't want the problem solved, because the problem is useful for them as long as its around

>>718988132
>words words words words words
Bro I like nuclear energy too but holy shit

>>718988087
When I get drunk enough I start going on how German anti-nuclear policy is part of a conspiracy ran by descendants of SS officers as a continuation of Operation Werewolf.

>>718957270
>They're the biggest corporate bootlicking moralfag cucks about piracy.
In general that may be the case, but r/piratedgames is a pretty reliable source for websites to download shit from for free. The only time I risked getting malware from one of the safe uploaders was when I downloaded something from Dodi Repacks (deleted it before executing the file though), but last I checked the mods added a warning next to the link telling you to use reliable Adblockers (which I did, but somehow you are STILL redirected to infested files). Also, I generally see more people here hating on piracy than on any other social media platform that isn't specifically targeted towards artists and other content creators who care about intellectual property.

>>718988172
you are 17 years old and have a brain disorder.

tldr: u dumb

short enough? or did you already click away to your other monitor? brain fried fuck

>>718988445
Stop writing fucking essays in your comics, it's that simple, faggot. I'm not brain damaged, I can read. But there's a time and a place to dump walls of upon walls of shitty text, and comics ain't it unless you're a retarded leftist which I bet you are

>>718980738
Most people think that commieblocks were an intentional design choice by the soviets, and not a generally laughed-at idea that they were forced to adopt because they were trying to provide new housing (because the russian empire didn't build any) for millions of people with no money. When the alternative was 10+ people to a room (the way it was before the USSR), yeah, they built some ugly prefab buildings.

There's a big autistic series about soviet architecture my communist friend made me watch so I feel unnaturally angry whenever people say "commieblocks" or whatever because I earned the right after listening to a finnish guy ramble about communism for ten hours.

>>718988716
It's not a comic. It's an essay with pictures to get retards to read it.

>>718988810
That explains why you like it and I don't, retard.

>>718988849
>you like it
who are you quoting

>>718988781
it became an intentional design by the 1980. still better than whatever the fuck they're building nowadays

>>718987747
What is the proper way to play anno games? I tried 1800, and didn't even make it past the campaign. I either run out of money, lose to a CPU or fuck up my production chains when trying to move them to different islands.

>>718988902
Look buddy, at the end of the day we're not getting nuclear energy without violence, so there's no point in splitting hairs about your essay comic. People can be as ignorant or as educated about nuclear energy as you want, it makes no difference as long as oil jews are alive.

>>718988968
How?

>>718988781
I grew up in one, it was alright. The main issue was insulation because every so often you'd have a gap between the panels. Thankfully construction foams became common enough to fix this, and nowadays a lot of them get a fresh coat of paint too.

>>718988905
Yeah this shit too much. Going over 8 floors and still building wide is mental problems.

>>718989048
>your essay comic
who are you quoting

>>718989106
STOP SAYING THAT

>>718948058
>>718953904
>>718976758
>>718961771
>>718985626
There's a really big update coming for Manor Lords 'soon', hopefully by autumn.
Hes been pretty open about it taking so long, he hired a load more people and they all worked on separate features and then none of it worked when they tried to put it together, so it's taken longer than expected. It promising big changes to all aspects of the game though.
Farthest Frontier is approaching 1.0 release soon too.

>>718987347
Is something Wong?

>>718989098
Such giga commieblocks have good apartments though. Anyway they make them on the outskirts mostly.

>>718988228
How does wind damage soil

>>718989403
Wind literally blows exposed topsoil away.
No idea how wind turbines would affect it though.

>>718989070
I don't know. Maybe I'm a brainlet? How am I supposed to know how many ships do I need to move grain from one island to another if I can't even look at the total production by islands?

yes

>>718989468
Dunno what to say, I tend to centralize individual production chains on a single island if I can help it, and assign more cargo/ships if the needs arise. Just sus it out, keep an eye on supply to see if it meets demand and adjust accordingly. You'll get a knack for it after a while.

>>718989468
I actually do not know how to help you because I don't understand how you're struggling.

>>718986732
from the makers of City Skylines: India

there was a 3D city builder in the mid 2000s that allowed you to pick a car off the map and just drive it around. maybe i'd modded simcity or something but i can't remember it for the life of me

>>718987145
It stresses me out too much.
>Ooh my comfy artstyle
>really good music
>rain.sfx
>TIMER
>BETTER GET THAT OBJECTIVE DONE ANON
>PEOPLE ARE UNHAPPY AND YOU WILL LOSE

>>718989634
just use your break saar you slow down make turn.

I wish SimCity 4 had randomly occurring natural disasters. Dealing with spontaneous stuff like that was always part of the fun.

>>718987836
reactor waste is monitored to hell since there are just concerns of retards breaking in, stealing material, and making dirty bombs, so its harder for negligence to occur
honestly overregulation and high cost is the killer of nuclear power. Nobody (except advocates apparently) gives a shit how scientifically feasible and ackshully safe it all is if nobody can afford to operate it.

>>718989685
You need to be calming the traffic saar.

Do you REALLY want nuclear reactors in a country that's gonna be 90% Indian by the year 2050?

>>718974752
What's the point of building literally nowhere?
No school, no entertainment, no job.

>>718989774
Most of the cost is just interest cost. If you actually build things constantly instead of just once every 30 years, then it gets faster and cheaper. Look at Russia, China, South Korea, and also France decades ago.
Germany has very high bills.

>>718989849
It's just a short 45 minute commute in your SUV anon, no big deal.

>>718989634
there's literally nothing wrong with that bridge, why is everyone losing their shit about it

>>718989837
yes

>>718989837
Yes. India already has nuclear power stations.

>>718989909
Las Vegas is a shithole in general.

>>718988716
you are brain fried

>>718990040
Sounds tasty.

>>718989927
>>718989938
I don't trust them to keep a meltdown from happening. I've watched in real time as jeetcode has degraded the internet over the years and made it nigh unusable. All technology they touch gets worse and more unreliable.

>>718990040
It doesn't become true just because you say it again

>>718989849
man will go to the ends of the earth to get away from blacks and poors
all for some city council faggot to put a bus station in the city, defeating the purpose of the suburb in the middle of nowhere
>>718989893
isn't that true about literally anything?

>>718989606
>>718989585
I illustrated my problem so it may be better to get across.

>>718988968
>>718989468
It's hard to tell without going into specifics but the usual culprits of failing early is building too many production buildings too fast and getting fucked by maintenance costs and/or your paying population is tiny in comparison to your industry. So the basic advice I can give you is:
>build more houses
>don't skip on making luxury goods, in particular beer for workers and rum for artisans are extremely good money makers early on
>jack up working conditions to get more production out of fewer buildings (happiness is a non-factor assuming you're satisfying luxury needs)
>make excess soap and sell it to the prison guy if you're strapped to cash
>don't play with non-easy AIs, it's not worth the hassle if you're struggling

>>718952145
Too damned small. The online requirement in an era where internet connections were unreliable and frequently subject to data limits was even more retarded than it would be today.

>>718974752
What a fucking shithole, Jesus Christ.

>>718989664
Learn to forget about the timer. Don't ignore it but just focus on doing your objectives, getting resolve up (ideally to the blue) and open up the map. Assess caches and if they contain shit you don't need then save 'em for a (pardon the pun) rainy day. A good mindset to adopt is setting up a supply chain to a non-wood fuel source ASAP and unassigning all your woodcutters when the storm hits. Don't worry much about losing colonists, it sucks but it happens and you've got time between storms to try and rectify that.

Even my rougher runs, once I'm past the rocky start tend to end really comfy. Though I won't deny that lizards and foxes can fuck off and die. Harpies get a pass for their hearth assignment bonus being crazy good.

>>718990469
Didn't it have a pretty solid expansion? Like I know it didn't fix the fundamental problems the game had but I heard it added some good shit.

God, the always online shit though, especially after pirates clowned on 'em and shown it was bullshit was, well, bullshit. I remember having to refund Just Cause 3 because my connection was rough at the time and the offline mode for that game was a fucking joke.

>>718989909
>45 minute commute
Retard

>>718974752
How did this single picture causes so much seethe?

>>718990258
Have you tried looking at your production graphs to see how much you're producing per minute and the average round trip time for a single ship?
Hint: In the early game it is extremely unlikely that you'll require more than a single schooner to ship up to two types of goods from one island to another. Throughput is much more important than carry capacity, it's very unlikely that your secondary island will have produced more than a single ship can carry by the time it makes a roudn trip.

>>718990595
Only causes seethe during europoor hours. Curious.

>>718990595
The Euroid sees an expanse of open space and is filled with an irrational and impotent rage.

>>718987092
Timberborn makes me happy.

>>718990595
Because only Americans or Arabs would see a stretch of burning desert and decide to live there.

>>718990837
Americans and Arabs have these wonderful inventions called air conditioning. You boys should try those sometimes with how much you bitch about mild summer hear.

>>718990595
euros live in shoeboxes and ride the bus for life.

>>718990837
Damn that's kino. I wanna do some crazy terraforming now.

>>718990983
Meant for >>718990880

I've been playing Frostpunk 2 a lot lately

>>718990894
You're still not selling me on WHY you would want to live in a brown void.

>>718989849
Its probably been built there BECAUSE its right next to somewhere important presumably with jobs

>>718991108
Faustian spirit. You wouldn't get it.

>>718953357
There's too many Tropico games at this point.
I cannot tell you the difference between any of the newer ones they've done.
It's all basically the same very similar formula, and they never really do anything interesting with it.

It always feels too silly to have any serious thought behind it, and the economy is often very basic to really enjoy.

I quite enjoyed this.
But the political layer being so basic is kinda lame. And it feels a bit to utopian for what communism should be.

Anno 2007 when

>>718991082
I went back after the changed up the heating mechanic. Now you can literally cut heating to districts where people you hate live.

>>718990654
>>718989585
Thank you, I'll try it out the next time I feel that city-building itch.

>>718989634
Inevitably some jeet will drive straight into the stadium stands.

>>718991267
The point of Tropico is that no matter what, you're still just the tinpot dictator of some shithole island nation.

>>718991409
If your stores on the production isle overflows you need more ships

>>718942223 (OP)
Not a city builder per se, but I've going back to Transport Fever 2 after a few months hiatus. It's comfy to watch trains go to and from after I have all my routes set up.

>>718986668

kino af ngl. i love the look of polluted cities with heavy industry. like city in matrix reloaded.

>>718991402
>Icebloods faction loved me because I leaned heavily into the efficiency advantage of Adaption buildings (look at those FIVE distracts with rallies)
>They ended up swelling with supporters so much they ended up controlling like 30% of the council seats
>This meant they controlled enough votes that if they didn't like a law I wanted to pass, it had no chance
>Ended up condemning them and getting the Merchants to deradicalize them over and over until they hated me but their numbers were puny and they had barely any voting power left
The politics of this game are shallow but can be amusing

>>718991737
Take the A-Train, anon. It's pretty similar, but you have more influence on growing the city, you may like it.

>>718956521
>cities of tomorrow
I hated that shit to be honest. I just want to build realistic looking cities. That whole futuristic crap for me was cancerous. I don't remember if it was even possible to disable that DLC if you bought it.

>>718942223 (OP)
>cancer grid

America was a mistake.

>is that...a fucking grid...?
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH ANGELA MERKEL SAVE ME AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH I'M LOSING MY MIND!!

I really like this game but I never see anyone talk about it.

Probably because it's too easy, I just like how comfy it is.

Definitely not the worst.

>>718993571
game?

>>718994370
The Wandering Village

>>718989457
I understand wind erosion, but wind turbines themselves don't create wind.

I'm addicted to workers and resources.

>>718980738
>factory right next to housing
Is pollution disabled in your game? If not then youre fucked

I don't think we're ever going to get another good one. The new Anno set in Rome looks like it could be good but Ubisoft will find a way to ruin it.

>>718942223 (OP)
Is there a city building game that don't shit it's bed on the game performance when it reaches late game?

>>718997057
see>>718989548

>>718954440
The REAL problem was total lack of citizen simulation.
Each house picked a vacant job to commute a sim to and then after work that job picked a vacant house to commute them back.

>>718991267
Tropico in its core was a satire about Cold War banana republics but the theme kinda got lost when it was passed on to other dev teams and to people who are born after the Soviet collapse. I stopped playing the new games when the focus shifted to min-maxing production chains instead of being a political sandbox.

>>718971151
FUCKING INSTANT PUR-
>>718981605
ohh

I haven't bothered decorating the watchpost and church yet because I'm waiting for the walls to be finished. Also, that stable spam front and centre.

But still. It's comfy.

>>718987747
Man, nuAnno menus are so souless. So generic, so boring.

>>718986339
This.
In my current run I actually build my settlements around existing commute range to the nearest church.
I'd really rather be a 'friendly commie' than go full 1984.
>Yeah pal, you can have some Jesus. Have all the Jesus you want as long as you're still loyal to the party
>Still, we've got all this great wholesome society and culture around too if you want to branch out a bit

>>718998823
Did they make it fun to play? I remember playing Foundation in early access and it was beautiful to look at but as a game it was worthless

>>718987879
i fucking hate these disingenuous cunts.

the potential for truly catastrophic accidents with nuclear power is far and away the major concern, which these disingenuous faggots fucking ignore. yes, nuclear power is safe - so far. but it only takes one, and we've already come close multiple times.

>"b-b-but modern reactors"
that's what they say every fucking time and yet accidents still keep fucking happening.

and then add to this the fact that the economics of nuclear power often don't stack up. i'm not even anti-nuclear

>>718999602
no it's basically an idle game still

>>718984184
kek

I've been playing Simcity 4 with a friend. I sent him a copy of my new region and we build cities next to each other's plots, then send over the city files to add to our own copies of the region. This is the biggest city I've managed to make so far and the framerate is pretty low, so I'm leaving it as it is rather than continue building over the farms.

>>718999882
I made a tiny plot next, which sprung up to 100k population instantaneously because of the demand from the neighboring city.

Banking all my chips on the SC4 engine crack fan-remaster because man the game is old. A big city like above does chug and the UI wasn't made to handle mods.
Can't come up with a new city builder? Come up with an old one.

>>718989849
Probably to get away from niggers.

>>718999983
I wanted a less dystopic city so this is a medium plot that's limited to only medium density residential (and high density commercial and industrial), and it couldn't break 100k pop.

>look for new CB games
>early access
>early access
>early access
>coming soon
>early access

>>719000404
Sadly that's almost all games at this point. Early Access was a mistake.
>Trust me bro just drive the car without doors for now, I promise I'll come install them next year. Oh yeah and the left lights don't work, but I'll fix it, promise.

>>719000382
Then finally made this thing. The top level is isolated from the lower levels, no roads leading down, no public transport, but somehow they brought cars there anyway when they moved in.

>>719000590
>car without doors and lights
And roof and seats and the engine has 1 horsepower with reigns for transmission but you can still use it for transportation and it can still become a car one day

>>718999645
Kill yourself, redditspacing faggot.
>the potential for truly catastrophic accidents with nuclear power is far and away the major concern, which these disingenuous faggots fucking ignore. yes, nuclear power is safe - so far. but it only takes one, and we've already come close multiple times.
The biggest nuclear disaster in history, involving a retarded design being run in a retarded way, killed 4,000 people in the long run. It would have killed more people if it was a coal power station in its day-to-day operations.
>"b-b-but modern reactors"
A modern PWR is not a RBMK.
>that's what they say every fucking time and yet accidents still keep fucking happening.
Disingenuous faggot. Fukushima killed 1 person and caused several permanent injuries, and it was completely avoidable, as shown by Onagawa. After an expensive cleanup, most of Fukushima's inhabitants have moved back.
>and then add to this the fact that the economics of nuclear power often don't stack up.
Yes they do. France has much cheaper bills than Germany. LCOE is only part of the final bill, and it is inflated by private interest costs.
>i'm not even anti-nuclear
Yes you are.

>>718999983
>traffic and environment completely plummeting

>>718989645
simcity 4: rush hour

>>719003746
>fukushima... was completely avoidable
and yet it happened anyway, which is my entire point.

your refusal to admit to the POTENTIAL catastrophic scale of nuclear disasters is why i dismiss out of hand everything you say. you are lying - to me, but also to yourself. nuclear accidents can go very bad, much much worse than any other form of power generation, and your safety assurances are worthless because you clearly don't take the risk seriously when you refuse to even admit it exists.

and nuclear power isn't even cheaper, so why bother.

>>719004823
it is actually. And you will need it anyway.

>>719004946
>barely manage to contain a potentially enormous disaster through the heroic efforts and sacrifices of thousands of people at an enormous cost
>the disaster was so fucking massive that gorbachev credits it explicitly with bringing about the collapse of the USSR
>reddit science bros decades later write wordswordswords comics smugly explaining how actually it totally wasn't even a big deal lol
disingenuous faggot

>>719005027
pure comedy gold

>>719005075
>chernobyl was a catastrophe!
>and that's why we should build more nuclear power plants!
do you see why i don't find your regurgitated talking points convincing? they don't even fit together.

observe how you immediately refuse to engage as soon as i point out the core failing of your argument: the absolute refusal to acknowledge the potential for catastrophic disaster, relying on the fact that it hasn't happened YET to pretend it can never happen EVER. you have no response to this, and so you just stop responding.

go ahead and post more comics. at least that way you'll be able to feel like you're achieving something.

>>719005251
observe how you immediately refuse to engage as soon as i point out the core failing of your argument: the absolute refusal to acknowledge the potential for catastrophic disaster, relying on the fact that it hasn't happened YET to pretend it can never happen EVER. you have no response to this, and so you just stop responding.

>>718990161
it's a problem that will solve itself. Either they manage to make it work or die in poornobyl
I'm not going to be around when it happens so i don't care

>>719005147
>France and UK
Now do Eastern Europe. Right when the cloud would be above some countries there was some random communist parade where everyone had to be outside and clap for some random communist bullshit. That day happened to be a rainy one. Everyone was drenched in radioactive shit

And what about in 1,000 years?

>>719005394
you are covered with coal shit.

>>719005429
>just trust the private for-profit power plant operators bro
>they would totally never cut costs and do stupid bullshit putting everyone at risk simply out of comical greed
>and please ignore the fact that this LITERALLY ALREADY HAPPENED at chernobyl!!!!
the utter fucking naivety.

again, i'm not even anti-nuclear, but anyone who actually finds this disingenuous faggotry convincing deserves to be the victim that they're fixated on becoming.

>>719005290
Traditional methods of power generation already cause the equivalents of disasters, as a norm, by the nature of their collection and operation
'Oh but what if the worst possible situation happens AND instead of reacting to contain it, everyone responsible just makes the worst possible choices so it becomes apocalyptic' just seems petty in comparison

>>719005553
even Simcity think nuclear is the best.

>>719005628
pretty much

>>719005553
Paranoia is terrible, i have it too. I'm sure i was right to accuse my mother of poisoning my food though as my belly aches stopped since i did.

>>719005493
Do you realize how retarded you sound?

>>719005628
>Traditional methods of power generation already cause the equivalents of disasters
no, they don't. the potential scale of a catastrophic nuclear disaster is utterly unrivalled.

>>719005912
You severely underestimate just how dirty coal power really is.

>>719005912
see >>718987879

>>719005912
I wish we could get a modern city builder with the personality of Sim City.

If I had the money I would throw cash at Will Wright to make Sim City 5 with no expectations of returns, no deadlines, and full control.
It would be amazing to see what he could do with today's technology and unrestrained by concerns of shareholders. Give the sandbox maker a sandbox for development and see what happens.

>>719005732
>>719005782
>2020
>we generate energy with satellites in orbit and send it back down to earth via microwaves
ah the precious optimism of 30 years ago

>>719004823
Dumb retard. Nuclear power is much safer than fossil fuels. Lots of people die in fires every year and dam failures have killed lots of people in the past, but we still use those.
>nuclear power isn't even cheaper
France has cheaper bills than Germany.

>>719005027
>the disaster was so fucking massive that gorbachev credits it explicitly with bringing about the collapse of the USSR
Gorbachev was a complete retard. The USSR collapsed because of decades of stagnation followed by his own retarded policies.
>reddit science bros decades later write wordswordswords comics smugly explaining how actually it totally wasn't even a big deal lol
More people would have died if Chernobyl was a coal power station in its day to day operations.

>>719005912
And again, you're comparing the big 'what if' that requires multiple levels of everything going wrong to a system that produces the equivalent amount of harm as a normal byproduct

Its like preferring a neighborhood full of violent crime compared to one patrolled by police because 'oh what if the police just decide to pull out their guns and shoot innocent people though'

The Simpsons is why Americans have a negative view of nuclear power.
Not even joking.

>>719006002
>>719006198
the scale of a disaster is not a simple calculation of lives lost, and that's assuming that you can even calculate those numbers correctly. a coal power plant accident isn't going to render vast swathes of land permanently uninhabitable, for example. you people have such limited thinking.

nuclear power is a never-gonna-happen white elephant pushed by fossil fuel companies to delay the transition to wind, solar, and other renewables. nuclear power is neither cheap nor safe and it's also not real. we have perfectly functional and viable alternatives to fossil fuels already, and so all your panic about "we need NUCLEAR to save us from..." is meaningless. we need something, yes, and there are many options, and nuclear isn't a good one.

support for nuclear power is just reflexive hostility to renewables because somehow electrical generation infrastructure became woke-coded. when the economics stack up and you can provide an actual credible safety plan that doesn't just revolve around ignoring the risks then sure, nuclear can be in the running, but until then stick to posting your comics.

>>719005227
A RBMK is nothing like a PWR. It had a massive positive void coefficient and didn't even have a containment building.

>>719006675
>a coal power plant accident isn't going to render vast swathes of land permanently uninhabitable

>>719006670
sad

>>719005394
4,000 people in total (including cancers) died, you dumb faggot.

>>719006675
>nuclear power is neither cheap nor safe and it's also not real
lmao who is going to tell those poor faggots working at nuclear power plants that their work is not real?

>>719005147
>>719005394
Funniest part is that outside of the immediate vicinity of the power plant it was northern europe that got the largest dose of the fallout

>>718961636
I really like the park life dlc. You can make free form city parks and zoos and forest preserves with trials and campsites and things.

>>719006618
>And again, you're comparing the big 'what if' that requires multiple levels of everything going wrong to a system that produces the equivalent amount of harm as a normal byproduct
>the equivalent amount of harm
i reject that premise.

>Its like preferring a neighborhood full of violent crime compared to one patrolled by police because 'oh what if the police just decide to pull out their guns and shoot innocent people though'
that's a great analogy, because it captures your naivete perfectly. you're exactly the kind of person who would hand over unlimited tyrannical power to the government out of blind faith that nothing could ever go wrong because surely the experts have it all figured out and there's no such thing as perverse incentives. your refusal to even consider the worst case scenario as a real possibility highlights the fundamental unseriousness of your positions.

i'm more than willing to discuss actual risks and trade offs but the entire pro-nuclear discussion has as a fundamental tenent the denial of those risks and trade offs. so no discussion is possible.

>>719006701
>don't worry bro we fixed it this time

>>718946276
I like it, it has no death waves like CS1. You need a good PC to run it though.

>>718980365
and city life did the pedestrian view 15 years ago.

>>719005418
What about it?

>>719006758
No. The USSR only linked 4000 deaths to it. Guess what happened on the 1st of May. Everyone was forced to go out and clap for the faggot communist parade under the radioactive rain because the faggot communist leaders didn't bother telling anyone. Sure they didn't die from it but you are retarded if you think it didn't affect that or the next generation.
>inb4 muh vaggzines

>>719007003
2006

>>719005553
>The NRC doesn't exist
>RBMKs are the same as PWRs

>>719007058
>nuclear waste canisters start leaking after a mere 1,000 years
they're literally already leaking now.

again, the entire pro-nuclear advocacy relies on denying and minimising real risks.

>>718985349
>>718984581
Huh, you point made me interested. Which 2d city builders allows for the biggest cities, modern only please, wanna build skyscrapers not pyramids.

>>719005912
Here is an objective comparison.

>>719007058
What are your thoughts on the upcoming microreactors, nuclearanon?

>>719006675
>nuclear power is a never-gonna-happen white elephant pushed by fossil fuel companies to delay the transition to wind, solar, and other renewables. nuclear power is neither cheap nor safe and it's also not real.
Look up "la belle relation". Also look up German energy prices.

>>719007251
ouch

>>719006973
The Soviets already had the VVER, faggot.

>>719007126
the USSR had safer reactor designs available and CHOSE to build RBMKs anyway.

the existence of more modern, safe designs does absolutely fucking nothing to guarantee that people will always use them and always use them properly. it is wholly naive to pretend that you've solved a problem which is fundamentally cost-cutting and hubris by developing a more complex and expensive design. that's not the problem. that was never the problem. the RBMK reactor was not the problem, the problem was the human factor decisions to even use that design in the first place.

again, this is why i keep saying pro-nuclear advocacy is fundamentally unserious. nuclear safety is not a technical problem and cannot be solved with technical means. pro-nuclear people with their blind faith in design solutions are exactly the last people who can fix these issues. as the small modular army nuclear reactors of the 50s proved, you cannot make it so simple and so safe that people can't fuck it up.

>>719007063
No, this is from WHO data, which was published over a decade after the USSR collapsed. Later studies suggest even lower numbers.

>>718988056
Stopped playing the game after one blow up.
it blow up just because. it's so fucking dumb.
Low IQ nigger need to stop making games.

>>719007194
How do people even die with solar? They tripped on a cable?

>>719007180
No they aren't. You're thinking about nuclear weapons waste.

>>719007251
Useful for niche uses like providing heat and electricity to remote mining towns, but completely retarded otherwise.

>>718987145
It's ok, but I want to see my city grow.
not start over every time.

I stopped playing after I completed the first seal, did it first try, no idea how people fail it.

>>719007445
The USSR had a culture of secrecy and a toothless regulator. Transparency and regulations are rightfully much stronger now. It's also a completely different design. Anti-nuclear activists are fundamentally unserious because they just go "lalalala I can't hear you".

>>719007484
Solar panel installers sometimes fall off roofs. Wind turbine workers sometimes fall off the wind turbines.

>>719006901
Sorry we don't have as much paranoia about this one specific possibility as an oil shill is paid to have

>>719006742
Bonjour l'anone. We like to separate powers regardless of any factor. We split more atoms because it's not good, this nucleus.

>>718986759
WRSR is very soviet apologist in how it chooses to represent the regime.
All the whacky evil shit the soviets did, they intentionally don't include.

>>719006901
>Power stations a few miles away from cities
>Unlimited tyrannical power
How did democracies ever survive the challenges of keeping gold safe?

>>719007654
>I stopped playing after I completed the first seal, did it first try, no idea how people fail it.
the game has 29 difficulty levels but makes it seem like there are only 4. IMO the game only truly starts once you're in the prestige difficulties and going farther than you think you should

<= This is what anti nuclear actualy believe.

>>719007710
quintessential naivete.

furthermore if your argument is that we need nuclear power to prevent global warming and save lives then that means that we would have to build them in russia, india, china, pakistan, indonesia, iran, all kinds of shitholes that are as bad as or worse than the USSR ever was. even fucking north korea, right? because we're trying to replace coal power? what happens to your perfect design solutions then?

either you have to say that nuclear reactors are so safe that even india and north korea should be encouraged to start building them en-masse, or you have to admit that nuclear reactors do have inherent risks but you believe that our """"highly evolved, responsible, technocratic""""" society has solved those risks in a permanent and incorruptible way so we can be uniquely trusted to do it 'properly' and therefore no concerns exist.

it's not that these positions are inarguable, it's that you're NOT ARGUING THEM. and that's why i say you are unserious. because i'm open to arguments that deal with the reality of nuclear power and its risks and trade offs, but all you have for me is incoherent denial and goalpost-shifting.

>>719008073
It's kinda funny because the state of Chernobyl in Stalker has absolutely nothing to do with the nuclear disaster.

>>719008081
>russia, india, china, pakistan, , iran
Those already have nuclear power stations. Where are the Chernobyls?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_commercial_nuclear_reactors
>indonesia
They currently just burn coal instead, which is even worse.
>north korea
Those retards already have nuclear weapons, but you're worried about them getting nuclear power?
>what happens to your perfect design solutions then?
A containment building isn't going to disappear just because it's built somewhere else.

>>719008042
Still not having fun.
I don't like the retarded random buildings
I don't like the timer
I don't like rogueKikes
I don't like frogs and birds
I don't like the Queen

I want to build a city, see it grow and kill the fuckers trying to stand in my way.

Best console management game?
>b-but
Yeah I have a PC but I’m wondering if console ports of these games have gotten better
I heard the Two Point games are simple enough on controller

I like games where the cities build themselves.

>>719008649
What game?

>>719008693
Transport Fever 2

>>719008649
Transport Fever 2, with mods?

oopsie!

This is now a Dominique Voynet hate thread

>>719008728
A few mods for more European trains, yep.

why is there no city builder that lets me build a japanese city

>>719008383
>Those already have nuclear power stations. Where are the Chernobyls?
i think there was one in chernobyl but i'm not sure.

do you get the irony of what you're doing here? you're asking me where are the examples of nuclear accidents by reference to a nuclear fucking accident. you also completely failed to engage substantively with the question. out of one corner of your mouth you say that our highly developed western societies have tamed the dangerous nuclear beast with our strong safety and transparency culture, and out of the other corner of your mouth you say we should immediately start mass construction of nuclear reactors in fucking indonesia and papua new guinea. there is a contradiction here and your only answer for it is "modern reactor designs are perfectly safe."

that is an utterly unconvincing answer. firstly, we've heard it before. secondly, we already have an example of a nuclear accident being caused by a deliberate decision to build and operate a sub-par design for cost-cutting reasons.

it is an article of faith for you and all other i fucking love science midwit redditors that your technical solutions have permanently solved human factor problems. you are wrong. and that's why i don't trust you to operate a nuclear power plant.

the only person who actually had a correct approach to nuclear safety was hyman rickover. i won't post again.

>>719008617
all I know is that Anno 1800 shit in the bed.

>>718946113
>blows up your servers

>>719008812
litearlly a-train 9
also, cities in motion have a NIHON dlc.

>>719008813
Last time that I checked, Chernobyl is in Ukraine, not in Russia. The design of a reactor is the same whether you build it in the West, or in Russia, or China, or Iran, or anywhere else.
You have spent the entire thread just coming up with what-ifs and making false equivalences between completely different designs instead of looking at actual data like >>719007194
Kill yourself.

>>719008813
i lied, i will post one more time.

here's a poem for you
https://pastebin.com/YDS951pb

pay particular attention to stanza 3, if your STEMbrain is even capable of it

>>719008895
I want to build building though, not railway

>>719008812
You can just mod cities skylines

>>719008812
A-Train
Empires of the Undergrowth
Ant Keeping Simulator

>>719009039
>He think A-train was really about trains.

>>719009048
it takes like three months to install japanese mods and make them work, not get buildings replaced by other buildings when city grows etc, it takes hours to scroll mod or building list in skylines to check or uncheck something
they should make a pack that jus werks

>>719009038
>Creative writing fag
>Is a retard
Many such cases.
>Nuclear power is like Gomorrah, the Holocaust, and the Gulags
kek

>>719009205
My biggest complaint for steam workshop is the lack of support for Total Conversion mods.
Often the reason why so many mods get split into small parts is because the filesize limit on Steam Workshop prevents putting them all into one big mod

>>719009205
>telling modders to work together, letting go of their personal ego for the sake of the community and take away their personal right to delete all of their mods on a random day in the future when they stub their toe or something?

Is this your first time?

>>719005553
>private for-profit power plant operators
>chernobyl
>private
>for-profit
>chernobyl

>>718989849
This is in Las Vegas, bro. You don't see the otherside of the picture where it shows the rest of the suburbs and city.

>>719005361
>I'm not going to be around when it happens so i don't care
Hi boomer

>>719005147
Nuclear propaganda par excellence.
>There was no impact at the farthest point from the accident
>There was no impact on the people of the area (who are all either dead from the tsunami or been displaced)

Should I get this on GOG or Steam? Apparently, the Steam version is the newest release. I just want the best one for modern systems/Windows 11.

So you guys would rec Sim City 4 ? I can find key for like 3euros but i will wait more and it seems to have fps issues when it reaches late game that canont be fixed ?

Has anyone ran into the issue of a CS1 save file randomly becoming corrupted and not even retrievable from steam cloud saves?
I wasnt even using mods for that save file, and it was a city I had been working on since 2018. ;_;

>>719011460
>>719008073

>>719011460
The WHO says that 4,000 people eventually died from Chernobyl.
1 person died from Fukushima and several people got permanent injuries and there was a $170 billion cleanup cost.

Cities Skylines would be the perfect game if you could remove the traffic simulation
>b-but just optimize your road layout optimally and put one-ways everywhere
I don't wanna

>>719011273
Is that Doug-goddamned-Dimmadome walking through your city streets?!

>>719011567
There is a patch that disables the FPS limit
https://community.simtropolis.com/forums/topic/762953-performance-and-graphics-list-index-of-all-critical-mods-to-install/

Why is CS1 city pop so weird?
I have a giant as fuck city using all tiles but pop is ~130k? dafuq

>>719011704
its the space elevator
there was a mod to add 3d shapes to your game and i made a really tall rectangle

>>719011959
If you check how many families live in all the houses, it's usually tiny numbers
I installed a mod once to make the inhabitant numbers realistic for house size and downtown traffic instantly ground to a halt

Is Cities: Skylines 2 decent yet, or is it bogged for good?
If so, which mods are essential for CS1?

>>719012181
>downtown traffic instantly ground to a halt
Sounds like you need to git gud then (I'm not, either).

>>719012314
Well the point was mostly that it now had to handle 200k people instead of 20k

How are the Cities in Motion games lads?
Im having a tickle to go full autismo

>>719012439
good, but the first missions are very slow.

>>719012204
Bogged.

>>719011959
Unity engine's fault

>>719006278
If you remember the original SimCity there was the option to fully replace your city with light rail lines and that was over thirty years ago, it was only when more peoples' inputs allowed for a more balanced game (even if rail was massively buffed over anything resembling reality). Plus almost every developer who has had money thrown at them to make a "good game" has turned out to be a talentless douchebag. Remember when people thought that Ron Gilbert was the REAL brains behind Monkey Island?

>>719011518
I used the GOG release which is just as well since there's no achievements, online play, workshop, and so on

>>719011203
Which game is that?

>>719013002
cities skylines 1

>Urban Underground starts playing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmwScE2JgwA&list=RDBmwScE2JgwA&start_radio=1

>>719013591
Hey that's the Fallout 3 art deco hoola hoop guy

posting in blessed thread

>>718966021
Commercial skyscrapers are too limited. I’d look for better models

>>719012616
holy soul...

>>719013591
Cool, I should pay more attention to the workshop

Looks like I was a little late to the party

Foundation i guess

>>718993090
SimCity 2013 fixed this problem with curved roads. It's practically impossible to NOT to make a grid layout in this game.

>>718942223 (OP)
After playing CS, Simcity is kind of unplayable to me. Like just looking at this city and thinking of how fucking awful the traffic would be kills me.

>>718990595
Because its ridiculous. Honestly after going to Italy and actually seeing how homes, businesses and roads used to be built I can't unsee how fucking awful cities like Phoenix or LA are built. Austin Texas is easily the worst designed city in the world.

what are the best city builders for ancient cities
something not anno

>>719015924
oddly it was removed from the workshop at some point
no idea why, no penis

>>718990469
>Too damned small.
People's obsession with making cities that could hold 1 million citizens is the problem. There's literally no need to make some giant metropolis, instead just make a cute little city that is well balanced and everything goes around smoothly with the people living there being happy.

>>719016575
ah yes the pinnacle of city design….Italy

My new city in A-Train 9. I hope that A-Train 10, if released, will have the more advanced technology of 9, the complex timetables of 9, and the more sophisticated city and passenger simulation (including tourists) of Tourism. It would be the perfect mix.
A-Train 9 is too braindead once you understand the formula. It's basically a timetable simulator with 1-minute accuracy for mega train autists.

>>719016879
>hm 5mw will do
>touch fission chamber
>point finger at you
>HALF LIFE SUCKS
>CRRSHHPFFFSH

>>718954101
the 3d aged like shit

Okay so what are the quintessential top 5 city builders of ALL TIME?

>>719016879
Yes, unironically. Needlessly spreading out your cities and homes just because you have cars wastes a shit ton of space and disconnects people from their communities. the sad part is that America had the same design philosphy as the rest of Europe up until the 40'-60's where we decided that was gay and created football field sized parking lots and decided a family of one needs 4 bedroom homes for no reason complete with a huge lawn and pool. It's crazy

Syxbros....we're thriving

>>719016879
>His road didn't lead to Rome
>None of his roads do
What the FUCK are you DOING

>>718973603
did emperor ever get an engine replacement mod like caeser/pharaoh did?

>>719017270
Blaming cars is a leftist thing to do. Tokyo is a city with a huge number of cars, but it works. It has measures in place to discourage car use, but cars exist, they are there, there is a huge road network for them, and yet you don't see deserts where there is nothing but parking lots for miles around.

>>718979259
is that your city? sick as fuck

>>718979259
Lethis Path of Progress

SC4 is extremely ugly unless playing on a perfectly level map

>>718974752
>>719017270
>>719017505
european suburbs > asian suburbs > asian rural areas > american rural areas > american suburbs > european cities > european rural areas > asian cities > american cities

2026 going to be good year for us city builders
transport fever 3
Tropico 7

>>719017505
I'm not saying get rid of cars anon. I agree with you but the problem is that America went too far into car dependency. Having many ways of getting somewhere whether that be walking, biking, metro or cars is good for the community. I feel like half the reason young people don't go out and socialize as much in these days is because getting anywhere is a such hassle. Having to sit in traffic and find parking can be a serious pain in the ass that it makes staying home easier.

>>719018298
Behold the peak of Ameica city planning.

>>719019950
Nahhhh lil bro looks like Hail To The Thief album cover fr fr

>>718946113
political satire

>>718977296
a-train tourism has potential but unfortunately the UI is some of the worst I've ever seen
>>718983406
i don't think anyone even plays a-train 9 for the actual game part, they just use it as a model train set

>>719020560
I love snow so much bros
sell me on the settlers: rise of an empire

>>718980738
workers and resources does not satisfy my logistics autism because the way citizens get jobs and everything about transportation is completely borked and unrealistic and not fun at all

>>718985371
>install NAN
no

>>719016907
>It's basically a timetable simulator with 1-minute accuracy for mega train autists.
of course the real joy is that making complex timetables is completely pointless because passengers aren't simulated

>>718950671
>tfw you can't decide between SC4 and tropico

>>719016729
The obsession isn't over population. It's having a particular save able to progress for a good long time instead of maxing out in short order.

>>718983175
Non-retarded traffic pathfinding

>>718980274
He is until the game randomly decides to put factories on that farmland and fucks it all up

>>719021904
More or less. Demand for trains depends on the buildings around the station. Schools, for example, generate demand when classes start and end. Commercial buildings that are closed on weekends do not generate demand Saturday and Sunday. Etc.
This already creates a certain complexity that is enough to make you create a complex timetable.
What the game does not simulate is the passengers' destination. They get on the train and all get off where you decide. In A-Train Tourism, there is also this destination simulation, but in return the timetables are less complex than in A-Train 9.

>>718989196
Yeah I'm interested in how farthest frontier is now

>>719017270
>and decided a family of one needs 4 bedroom homes for no reason complete with a huge lawn and pool.
problem? who the fuck would want a shitty apartment over having actual land
>>719017505
Japan is a poor example. They have limited usable land so their cities are compact and intelligently engineered solely because of that reason. If they had as much available land as NA you bet their ass they’d take advantage of it. Just look at China and South Korea.

>>718974752
and then people wonder why kids are always on their phone and never want to go outside

>>718989314
CARLOS!!!

>>718961771
No combat, crime, bandits, anything. its shit

>>719023123
>They have limited usable land so their cities are compact and intelligently engineered solely because of that reason
That's not true. There's a book called "The Making of Urban Japan" that chronicles the entire evolution of urbanism in Japan and how it differs from the West. They are not magicians capable of optimizing things better because they have little space. They made a lot of mistakes too, and many of the characteristics of their urbanism were accidental because they depended on a lot of things they did not have complete control over. And Tokyo was destroyed several times too, which allowed them to try some more aggressive things here and there.

I game on :
- Hotel Galactic
- Nova Patria
- Gold Gold Adventure Gold
- Endzone 2
and you cannot defeat me

>>718988968
make lots of soap
make boats, frigate plus a few escorts
sell the soap to the prison with a trade route

>>719017317
I'm just waiting on those updates, then i'll play.

cringe thread

>>719029579
not a city builder thoughever, more like a tiny village builder

I've recently been playing a lot (way too much) of Islanders New Shores. It's very basic, reminds me a lot of Mini-metro/ Mini-motorways. Good if you want just 30m coffee break city builder

>>719030147
It functions best with a small population, yes, but it was designed to sprawl out big enough to be comparable to other city builders with hand-placed buildings rather than zoning.

Frankly we need more smaller scale city builders that are focused on smaller details, on sculpting aesthetics as much as operations.

>>719030538
How does it compare to the first one mechanically? I was put off by the over-use of proximity bonuses.

>>719030671
same core as first game with but with 25% added complexity and 200% more content. Still pretty heavy on proximity bonuses. The big buildings that have heavier point swings for proximity bonuses, but there's also a feature that lets you add scoring modifiers for building placement (i.e. larger proximity ring, ignore duplication score penalty, etc)

>>719011203
>>719011273
>>719012059
what game? cities skylines? yandex says it is cyberpunk

>>719031117
Check >>719013591

>>719031117
nevermind I just saw it's cities skylines

>Not gaming on Cliff Empire
literally wtf?

>>719031213
Marathoned 68 minutes of that in 2023. Should pick it up again

>>718961636
Snowfall because it adds trams!

>>718974849
My first thought was that dude also lmao

>>719021627
The fact that everyone needs food that needs to be physically sourced is more than any other city builder on the market

has manor lords gotten any content yet

>>719034497
hasn't had any updates in almost a year now lmao
glad I pirated that shit

>>719034625
At least it's pretty funny that normalniggers fell for an early access scam