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Anonymous No.718942559 >>718944850 >>718945045 >>718945089 >>718945236 >>718947115 >>718949786 >>718950459 >>718951781 >>718951834 >>718952225 >>718952285 >>718952582 >>718952873 >>718953094 >>718953305 >>718955071 >>718959298 >>718961474 >>718961654 >>718964179
Masterpiece
Anonymous No.718942713 >>718945109 >>718945773 >>718969917
All MGS games are crap
Anonymous No.718943063 >>718945089 >>718945773 >>718953464 >>718960052
All MGS games are masterpieces
Anonymous No.718943975
Oh yeah, it has flaws sure, but my God it is one fantastic game.
Anonymous No.718944763
OH NO
NOT ME
Anonymous No.718944850 >>718945173
>>718942559 (OP)
its better than 3
Anonymous No.718944932 >>718946145
Wouldn't you agreeeeee
Anonymous No.718944991 >>718945312
peace walker was better and a finished game
Anonymous No.718945045 >>718945346 >>718949920 >>718959015
>>718942559 (OP)
If only the story wasn't dogshit.
Anonymous No.718945053
it's okay.
Anonymous No.718945089
>>718942559 (OP)
>>718943063
Metal gear solid ended with 3. 4 was a shit retcon movie, peace walker had an idea but the gameplay was awful, and 5 was an abomination
Anonymous No.718945109 >>718953464
>>718942713
>All MGS games are crap
FBWB
Anonymous No.718945148
Fun with cheats.
Anonymous No.718945173 >>718949598 >>718954040
>>718944850
It's more interesting for sure. I even liked MGSV Volgin more as a corpse kept alive by anger as opposed to the most stereotypical Russian Bond villain possible.
Anonymous No.718945236
>>718942559 (OP)
3 was the last good game in the series
Anonymous No.718945312
>>718944991
finished games cannot be masterpieces
Anonymous No.718945346 >>718945748 >>718951408
>>718945045
It's a better story than PO, MGS4, or PW, for whatever that's worth.
Anonymous No.718945426 >>718945564 >>718951935 >>718969635
It's probably the worst MGS game or at least second only to Portable Ops. What kills it for me is the complete absence of level design so every single camp/mission is just you sitting a few hundred meters away sniping everyone with the wu pistol. Then of course there's the open world mobile game time waster mechanics of materials grinding to make you think you're having fun.

I'd completely understand if this game being so shit was the reason Konami canned Kojima.
Anonymous No.718945564 >>718946575 >>718955190
>>718945426
most successful Metal Gear with the highest player count
clearly people are still having fun with it
Anonymous No.718945748 >>718945815
>>718945346
Okay but they teased it to be the missing link that fills in the blanks up to metal gear 1 but it doesn't. I wanted to see Big Boss actually doing the shit that made the world fear him, i wanted to see David growing up becoming this spec ops soldier and i wanted the game to end with him boarding the helicopter that takes him to Big Boss' base. Instead i got a damn good PMC game but it wasn't Metal Gear.
Anonymous No.718945773 >>718953464
>>718942713
Cringe
>>718943063
Based
Anonymous No.718945815 >>718945864
>>718945748
They teased MGS2 being entirely about Solid Snake but it wasn't so what's your point
Anonymous No.718945864 >>718945916
>>718945815
And i didn't like MGS2 either. So what's your point?
Anonymous No.718945916
>>718945864
That you're retarded
Anonymous No.718945976 >>718951410
Anonymous No.718946145
>>718944932
And that's why I'll show you my DEMON
Anonymous No.718946575 >>718946939
>>718945564
I mean it's the only MGS released on PC (shortly after exclusivity) and people are checking it out in anticipation of Delta. I'm sure MGS1 was way bigger back in the day.
Anonymous No.718946939 >>718949051
>>718946575
MGS1 definitely wouldn't keep up player numbers like this for a decade. The game is just too short and linear, it barely allows for any different playstyles and there is fuckall to do after beating it.

Even MGR popular as it is only gets 500 players.
Anonymous No.718947115 >>718947271
>>718942559 (OP)
didn't win muh goty though
Anonymous No.718947271
>>718947115
Cause it's the game of the decade
Anonymous No.718947565 >>718960876
Too masculine for the /v/ skirt wearing sissies
Anonymous No.718949051 >>718949641
>>718946939
You had a lot of people playing (on youtube and twitch) the MGS saga I definitely do think the numbers would be similar at this time. But from an overall perspective again, it's because MGS5 is a PC release and the latest (and final) game in a revered franchise. It's like saying BotW/TotK is better than every Zelda game because they had more players and copies sold. Anyone can see it as a transparently disingenuous argument.
Anonymous No.718949405
As much as I liked Phantom Pain, I'd really just like Peace Walker 2. Bigger, more content, slightly improved graphics because PW nailed an art style that worked.
Anonymous No.718949598 >>718949770
>>718945173
This was legitimately on of the dumbest aspects of V.
Anonymous No.718949641 >>718950068
>>718949051
Doubt, the game doesn't have much to offer in terms of content or depth. People beat it, enjoy the experience and move on.
Anonymous No.718949770 >>718949873 >>718954094
>>718949598
One of the best and most misunderstood. MGSV made everything from MGS3 and PW infinitely more interesting.
Anonymous No.718949786
>>718942559 (OP)
IVIasterpiece
Anonymous No.718949873 >>718949997 >>718954094
>>718949770
It's the only game where they show instead of talking. Not sure who's responsible for it since Yap Stranding is back to Kojima's usual bullshit.
Anonymous No.718949920 >>718950323
>>718945045
If Konamin are smart they will retcon the whole stupid Medic bullshit
>just kidding it was BB all along
Anonymous No.718949997 >>718950264 >>718954094
>>718949873
Kojima can be subtle, his fans on the other hand are braindead morons. At the end of the day he has to fall in line.
Anonymous No.718950068
>>718949641
You misunderstand my point. I'm saying that the older games would have the same player numbers during these few weeks as people gear up for Delta. And the secondary point is that MGSV would naturally have more players since it is a PC game and the most fleshed out one. But that isn't to say it particularly has much depth or is "better" than the previous entries. But hey, if you think BotW/TotK are the best Zelda games ever, then you do you. We have nothing more to discuss.
MGSV doesn't have much depth either though.
Anonymous No.718950264
>>718949997
>Some Hideo Kojima fans
wew lad
Anonymous No.718950323 >>718950659 >>718950721 >>718950981 >>718951752
>>718949920
That's just confusing. People already accepted Venom as part of the canon. If anything they should double down on it and update MG1 remake with the new lore.
Anonymous No.718950452 >>718951076
Everything about V is bad from Ground Zeroes on.
From open world gameplay that trivializes stealth because Kojima is incompetent to Kojima's Big Boss apologetic that refuses to allow him to become a villain.
Anonymous No.718950459
>>718942559 (OP)
It's my favorite game but it's got A LOT of issues and it sure as shit ain't no masterpiece
Anonymous No.718950659 >>718950763 >>718954919
>>718950323
>People already accepted Venom as part of the canon.
I didn't, and neither did David Hayter
Anonymous No.718950721 >>718951262
>>718950323
I'd rather they don't touch any of that. MGSV is a fever dream covered in layers and layers of uncertainties, the game contradicts itself at points and I accept it as part of the narrative. V is a dead man walking.
Anonymous No.718950763 >>718954329 >>718954919 >>718971915
>>718950659
Anonymous No.718950770 >>718951139
If only the story wasnt total shit and the gameplay wasn't total boring tedium. MGS1, 2 and 3 are a million times better than V.
Anonymous No.718950981
>>718950323
>new lore
MG1 big boss had a body double for the scientist he captured.
kinomatography
Anonymous No.718951076 >>718952207 >>718952954
>>718950452
A lot of V opens itself up to the same possibilities you had in GZ though. It's just that the game gives you a lot of tools to trivialize it and you're never pushed to actually engaging with the systems past the extra objectives in the main missions, which almost no one ever does and can still be trivialized anyways.
The way to play The Phantom Pain is with no companions, no drops and a disabled HUD. It gets rid of a lot of the bullshit and turns the game into a very tense masterpiece until you're hunting for dumb animals anyways.
Reading Moby Dick, Pierre and some of Melville's poetry and some Japanese Buddhist texts while playing this game still makes for one of my fondest experiences with gaming desu. Even though the game is still pretty buggy and kind of flawed what it does is something I've never seen many AAA games attempt ever since, and between the atmosphere and the themes and the resolution that lets the player know the artiste kills his own career and passes the torch a second time this whole shit is just fantastic. Even the buggy eerie nature of the game is justified by its own internal paranoia and the derealization of its character, aided by the succinct camerawork. Only time Kojimbo took cues from a groundbreaking film and it led to a groundbreaking game.
Anonymous No.718951139
>>718950770
>1
nah
>2
dunno. has too much bullshit though it's sweet too. a lot like V
>3
nah
Anonymous No.718951262 >>718951852 >>718952709
>>718950721
>MGSV
>Kane & Lynch 2
>Hotline Miami 2
What's some more schizolvdo that absolutely filters normies?
Anonymous No.718951408
>>718945346
MGS4 is my favorite one
Anonymous No.718951410
>>718945976
>medic.talks.to.himself.png
Anonymous No.718951530
someone please help me ever since i built this pc a couple years ago ground zeroes and tpp both crash after a few minutes of gameplay. gtx4070, i7 processor, 32 gb ram. can't find anything online about this, all the advice is from 2015 and about updating drivers, deleting config files and disabling overlays. did it all, nothing works. want to play mgsv. someone help me.
Anonymous No.718951752 >>718952057
>>718950323
>update MG1 remake with the new lore.
The new lore doesn't really matter, though, and that's the point of it. Venom dies playing his role as stand-in. Not much else to it.
Anonymous No.718951781 >>718952002
>>718942559 (OP)
No, fuk You
The Game is dogshit and the whole deal with Venom snake is one of the worst plot twists ever
Anonymous No.718951834 >>718958773 >>718959092
>>718942559 (OP)
I have 230h in it, played it on release. Could not care that the story had major issues, the game itself was peak fucking fun and it ran smooth as butter.
Anonymous No.718951852
>>718951262
>everyone lies to you
>have to piece the story together
>you are not really you but someone else
>bunch of philosophy gets dropped in your lap
>have to repeat missions to get the true ending
>true ending just fucks with you even harder and leaves you without any catharsis

It was the proto-MGSV
Anonymous No.718951935
>>718945426
The only game that belongs next to PO is MGS4.
Anonymous No.718952002 >>718952057 >>718952208 >>718954062
>>718951781
I would like to actually see it. They should have added Skullface to Delta too.
Anonymous No.718952057
>>718952002
meant for
>>718951752
Anonymous No.718952207 >>718952579
>>718951076
I feel like every MGS requires you to challenge yourself, especially when the tranq gun exists
Anonymous No.718952208
>>718952002
George Lucas' target audience
Anonymous No.718952225
>>718942559 (OP)
>VENOM SNAKE REPORTING FOR DOODY!!
Anonymous No.718952285 >>718952441 >>718952705
>>718942559 (OP)
>Terrible writing
>Terrible level design
>Open world only made things more cumbersome and tedious
>Original soundtrack was highly unmemorable (the David Bowie music is not part of the original soundtrack)
>Game basically had no real bosses and the ones that were boss fights were complete garbage
Anonymous No.718952441
>>718952285
there are like 2 boss fights in mgs that aren't tedious horseshit
Anonymous No.718952579
>>718952207
What was this captured on? Nintendo switch?
Anonymous No.718952582
>>718942559 (OP)
*half of a masterpiece
We will never get the other half.
Anonymous No.718952631
IM NUCLEAR
Anonymous No.718952705 >>718952951
>>718952285
the skulls make for better bosses than literally all the bosses in the series
way cooler too.
Anonymous No.718952709
>>718951262
Spec Ops The Line is the opposite of that
Anonymous No.718952873 >>718953084
>>718942559 (OP)
It will be surpassed
Anonymous No.718952951
>>718952705
Come on, man, only sniper sluts were good.
Anonymous No.718952954
>>718951076
>is furious when his mentor's "ghost" would rather die than cause nuclear war
>builds a nuclear arsenal
>brainwashes retarded guy to be a body double
>brainwashes a whole base of kidnapped soldiers to be loyal dogs that would die for him (but it's not actually him, just the retarded guy)
>not a villain
Anonymous No.718953084
>>718952873
It will be No Time To Die: the game
>old miserable alcoholic snake
>replaced by a diversity hire
>otacon is openly gay
>sunny is a whore
>his ex wife shags die-hardman
Anonymous No.718953094 >>718953162 >>718953204
>>718942559 (OP)
If you like unfinished games, sure.
Anonymous No.718953121
Why is this track so memorable?
https://youtu.be/4-2WrKpo9zk?list=RD4-2WrKpo9zk
Anonymous No.718953162 >>718953473
>>718953094
Yeah, MGS2 was great
Anonymous No.718953204
>>718953094
When did that ever stop games from being beloved and recognized as masterpieces? New Vegas? Dark Souls? VTMB? Kotor II? Uh hello??
Anonymous No.718953305
>>718942559 (OP)
i hate TPP almost as much as MGS4.
Ground Zeroes was an incredible demo, though.
Sniper Elite 4 and 5 are closer to what I wanted from TPP, but still not as good as GZ.
Anonymous No.718953464
>>718945109
>>718943063
>>718945773
zoomergroid
Anonymous No.718953473 >>718953824
>>718953162
>Because by the same standard that was used to tar and feather MGSV, the revered masterpiece MGS2 is also shamefully incomplete and a permanent blot on the records of everyone involved

https://youtu.be/hV4wY2rjAWY?t=582

https://thinkinthinkin.wordpress.com/2020/10/05/cut-content-metal-gear-solid-2-sons-of-liberty/

He was right
Anonymous No.718953824 >>718953897
>>718953473
and niggas think kotf is a big deal
Anonymous No.718953897 >>718954806 >>718968145
>>718953824
>Lastly, the interview talked about the idea of MGSV being β€˜unfinished’, as many are claiming. Yano had this to say about it: β€œI think there were two stages to this. First, you had a certain number of players who finished Chapter 2 not long after the game came out and went, β€œWhat? This Snake wasn’t the real Big Boss!?” It’s similar to the way people reacted to MGS2 (laughs). Some players couldn’t accept that there was a new main character, Raiden, and they got really angry. But now MGS2 is considered a masterpiece. MGSV is a much longer game than MGS2, so it’s like its length amplified that feeling.” He also feels that the absence of Kingdom of the Flies (Mission 51) is not a direct cause of this. β€œUp until Episode 46, The Man Who Sold the World, players experience the story as Snake, but then they suddenly have the rug pulled out from under them. They find out that they themselves were Big Boss. Then it becomes their story. They themselves participated in the massacre on Mother Base, Quiet’s disappearance, Huey’s exile. I think The Kingdom of the Flies became an outlet for venting all the unease and confusion that followed that revelation. But really, this fits right into what Kojima-san wanted.
Anonymous No.718953960
>it's going to 5pm EST
>mutt and beaners enter the board
>spam kojimboworshipping+rollslop+gooner+gachash threads till dawn till eurofags make actual videogame threads
>repeat
Clearly NAhour is the worst
Anonymous No.718954040
>>718945173
He wasn't alive it was just a mantis puppet
Anonymous No.718954062 >>718954315
>>718952002
>people keep posting this retard's shit
At least post Mitchell Hammond's kino instead.
Anonymous No.718954083
Its meh
the missions where they put effort are absolutely good, but the amount of dogshit padding they spammed to keep it interesting was absolutely dumb. Running back to an area you had been to for the 3rd of 4th time is insane

they tricked everyone with ground zeroes.
Anonymous No.718954094 >>718954724
>>718949997
>>718949873
>>718949770
The thing with MGSV is that it was deliberately hyper-experimental in storytelling and presentation.
Like, look at Ground Zeroes. On the surface it's just a rescue mission that is bait to take down MSF.
Then you listen to the cassette tapes and a building dread occurs wherein Huey pushes the nuclear inspection through and Chico gives up Mother Base.
And then you play the Extra Ops, wherein you do the following:
>"Take out" a man wearing Kaz's sunglasses and a cripple with a prosthetic arm
>Extract a man in the base giving you intel (who is Hideo... and Hideo Kojima's list of selfinserts includes Huey)
>Acquire further intel on the base
>And then prep it for complete destruction
It's Big Boss acting out the downfall of MSF parallel to MSF's own destruction, implicating the cause of this as being partly his own fault.

The main game is equally fascinating with how it depicts villainy from Big Boss- by not having him actually be there. He's in the prologue and the re-enactment of it, and then nowhere else, he's a ghost whose propaganda is enforced by the player. Nobody played with their chosen avatar, they played with Big Boss! He has posters all over Mother Base! How could you hate Big Boss, he's such a charming and fun guy!
Except the narrative comes in. And the guy you're playing as is not Big Boss, it was someone who was the complete opposite of BB- a medic. Someone supposed to help people, physically and mentally altered to be the greatest killer on the planet.
And then, Kaz trains up that Big Boss for revenge, alongside Solid Snake, only for the real Big Boss to have his double take the fall against a protege. The implication of the ending being that BB's greatest act of villainy being that he let history repeat, and became the man behind the scenes who forces people to suffer for the sake of their global games.
Anonymous No.718954190
it's the only good mgs
Anonymous No.718954315 >>718956021
>>718954062
the mask is canon you cannot convince me otherwise
Anonymous No.718954329 >>718954573 >>718954919
>>718950763
>David Hayter has forgiven Kojima
>Kojima has most likely never rooked back or thought twice of the situation and probably forgot who Hayter was
Kek what a salty bitch
Anonymous No.718954573 >>718954740 >>718955573
>>718954329
Hayter acts like he created Snake. Sure he was a big part of the character but who is he to forgive anyone for not being cast. He had a good run and he should have been happy with that.
Anonymous No.718954719 >>718955238
Seeing this Miller would be badass tho. TPP already catapulted him to one of the best characters.
Anonymous No.718954724
>>718954094
It's a game about phantoms fighting in proxy wars in proxy war zones using fake guns and even faker mechs.
Anonymous No.718954740
>>718954573
>Hayter acts like he created Snake
no he never was
you fucking internetdrama addicted zoomie faggot
Anonymous No.718954806 >>718954941 >>718954945 >>718955001
>>718953897
This is all humongous cope. Parts of the scrapped chapter are literally in the files, and it does actually finish the story.
Anonymous No.718954919 >>718955104 >>718955419 >>718964420
>>718950659
>>718950763
>>718954329
I really don't get why anyone gives a shit about what Hayter thinks.
Hayter was never involved with Kojima is the thing. Kojima doesn't direct the English voice performances, doesn't write the English script, probably isn't even the guy who worries about the budget for the English actors or anything, he's literally just a guy who voice acted in one version of the games.

As an aside, since it'll inevitably get brought up, Hayter not being in MGSV was 100% a union issue, since Major Zero's voice actor also got dropped from MGSV, and according to him it was because they weren't offering enough payment for the performance (he nuked his twitter ages ago though).
Like, pretty much every actor in MGSV on the English side got replaced if they weren't in PW, with the sole exception of Big Boss, but Hayter was also dropped from Revengeance, which never got its final sword DLC outside Japan (a sword that uses Solid Snake's voice). I can only imagine this was a unions thing.
Anonymous No.718954941 >>718955217
>>718954806
Educate yourself

https://thesnakesoup.org/editorial-articles/phantom-pain-unfinished/
Anonymous No.718954945
>>718954806
>Parts of the scrapped chapter are literally in the files
Yeah, this image
gtfo lorelet
Anonymous No.718955001 >>718955312
>>718954806
>Parts of the scrapped chapter are literally in the files
The only thing in the files is the image that already got posted.
If you mean Episode 51, that was a cancelled DLC that resolved nothing aside from one minor plot thread.
Anonymous No.718955071 >>718955215
>>718942559 (OP)
last of us 2 has better sneaking gameplay
Anonymous No.718955104
>>718954919
Fuck his pompous ass T B H
Kief is way more likeable
Anonymous No.718955190 >>718964468
>>718945564
pc players have shit taste we know
Anonymous No.718955215 >>718956491
>>718955071
it's more manhunt than metal gear
Anonymous No.718955217 >>718955321
>>718954941
Counterpoint:
https://youtu.be/SxgH4I_6d0Q
Anonymous No.718955238 >>718955621 >>718955646
>>718954719
PW and MGSV made Miller one of my favorites but his character is hard to square with the MSX games now. Big Boss commanding Outer Heaven was supposed to be a secret to everybody which is why Big Boss was able to play both sides with FOXHOUND. How does this make any sense now? Wouldn't Miller know better and blow the lid off the whole thing? Likewise, Miller and Ocelot don't really each take a clone for their war. Though that may be the point in that case, I don't know.
Anonymous No.718955312 >>718955723
>>718955001
>Kojima would never sell parts of the main story as downloadable cont-ACK
Anonymous No.718955321 >>718955370 >>718968386
>>718955217
The article addresses that. Episode 51 was a cancelled DLC. Everyone involved has stated that, and the scene you posted was not "in the files", it was on a bonus BD that came with the LE of the game.
Anonymous No.718955370
>>718955321
>selling the ending as DLC is okay
Anonymous No.718955419 >>718955817
>>718954919
it's because le kojima didn't notice a thing to his le comrade who worked with for decades but as 4chan people don't care so as I
Anonymous No.718955573 >>718956158
>>718954573
There is an issue because when you replace a voice actor that is so vital to an established character then you introduce some delegitimizing of the franchise as a whole. Who is snake and does it really matter if they can just change him? Its kinda cheapening
Anonymous No.718955621 >>718956098
>>718955238
Miller would definitely try the whole Venom thing again with Solid. That's his whole character desu. If anything his attitude in TTP is what justifies how he is in 1.
Anonymous No.718955646 >>718956098 >>718956889
>>718955238
MG1 has neither. Kaz is a side character in MG2 and I guess after Medic's death he doesn't care about anything anymore. No one knows about Big Boss being in Zanzibar until Snake finds Madnar in a cell. Ocelot is implied to be there retroactively since ZL soldiers wear red berets, I like to imagine him pulling strings behind BB's back.
Anonymous No.718955723 >>718959282
>>718955312
Ground Zeroes was a Konami thing, and we already know Episode 51 got cancelled long before MGSV even came out.
The real schizo theory about it is that it's just another aspect of the "Cancelled TV Show" narrative throughline MGSV has.
MGSV, the game, has 50 episodes, meaning a four cour production in TV terms.
The first arc of the series ends rather oddly at Episode 31 after a long and drawn out buildup. Episode 31 is not a typical point in production where a major plot development would occur, as that would typically be at the midpoint (Episodes 24-26), and here's the episode breakdown following:
>Episode 32
>[Rerun]
>[Rerun]
>Episode 35
>[Rerun]
>[Rerun]
>Episode 38
>[Rerun]
>[Rerun]
>Episode 41
>[Rerun]
>Episode 43 (Major Development Episode)
>[Rerun]
>Episode 45 (Major Development Episode)
>Episode 46 (Ending, Compilation Episode)
>[Rerun]
>[Rerun]
>[Rerun]
>[Rerun]
>Episode 51 (Cancelled, Major Plot Development)
And its four cour run is over.

To arrive at the point, Episode 51 being a series of storyboards and early unfinished production footage could be an intentional idea to draw out the cancelled TV show comparison, if you really want to go that far.
It's ultimately a far more interesting idea, considering there is no documented, measurable, meaningful cut content within MGSV itself.
Anonymous No.718955817 >>718958967
>>718955419
>it's because le kojima didn't notice a thing to his le comrade who worked with for decades
Kojima didn't work with Hayter though.
Kojima worked with the Japanese voice actors, and only worked with the English cast on likely two occasions.
The first would be with Hayter, which is the MGS4 live action scenes for the game's opening, but that also included tons of general Konami staff (you can even spot the infamous Tomm Hulett in there if you have a keen eye).
The second would be MGSV, where he had the actors doing mocap- but no Hayter there.

Kojima doesn't know David Hayter.
Anonymous No.718956021
>>718954315
nice kane mask
Anonymous No.718956037
Anyone try the co op mod yet?
Anonymous No.718956098
>>718955621
>Miller would definitely try the whole Venom thing again with Solid.
He does eventually help train Snake, but my point is it's not like he raised him or gave him a heads up on Big Boss. Snake learns the hard way in MG1.
>>718955646
Big Boss isn't at OH but he did build it even if Venom was the guy on site. Miller's absence in the game doesn't address my point either.
Anonymous No.718956158 >>718963967
>>718955573
big boss had a better voice actor in 4 anyway
Anonymous No.718956379
>muh hayter
>muh keefer
Anonymous No.718956491 >>718956592
>>718955215
and its better, its more tense more gritty if kojimas new sneak game is a carbon copy of that gameplay it would get sucked of too death, in V you can turn your mind off and play like a retard or as other anons said just snip,
Anonymous No.718956558 >>718956682 >>718962663
I liked that Kojima refused to give him a bossfight. Huey being the one who actually kills him just fits so well. Especially after he becomes the next scapegoat. Some things are just too videogamey for a serious story.
Anonymous No.718956592 >>718957406
>>718956491
yeah welcome to metal gear, lowest common denominator "stealth" game series
Anonymous No.718956682
>>718956558
>a serious story
B-B-BUT IT HAS POOPY HORSE AND A SEX WOMAN!!!! :0
Anonymous No.718956889
>>718955646
ah, the ZL mannequin room, always need a dummy for situations to get out of like in that episode of spongebob titled the Chaperone.
Anonymous No.718957195
Half finished Ubishit title with a vague MGS skin
Anonymous No.718957406
>>718956592
I even played that tom clancy wildlands and thats got better gameplay then V in that
3 of the factions can fight eachother
co-op
has more bases, more outposts
has shitty padding like V
bike/cars handle better, you get copters
looks better
I just dont get the ppl that say this is the best tps ever its like they've not played another, its like rising thats a shit hack and slash vs others you can play the gow,bayo,ng,dmc3/4 its a fucking worse bayo with a shitty slow down time bs cutting thing thats 5 hours long raiden has like 5 moves
Anonymous No.718958610 >>718958741
What I like about V is that you know how all the characters end up. Nothing good happens to them. It's a slowmo car crash from start to finish. It makes everything so much more interesting when you follow a cast of doomed characters.

28 years of storytelling and the final game is a melancholic story that isn't really of much importance in the grand scheme, but it hits hard all the same. I can hardly think of a more fitting way to end the series.

>our wishes do not come true, peace day never came
Anonymous No.718958631
If you pick him you're a real one
Anonymous No.718958741 >>718958901
>>718958610
MGSV isn't the end to the series. And that's a good thing.
Anonymous No.718958773
>>718951834
>not using gold weapon skins
Anonymous No.718958901 >>718959059
>>718958741
In many ways it is, but it ties into the beginning as well creating a loop. Like a snake eating its own tail.

Kojima said that even if more Metal Gear games will be created, this is the last one. The end of the saga.
Anonymous No.718958967
>>718955817
Yeah this is all a projection from Western /v/ Anons. They think David Hayter is Solid Snake and that Kojima has worked with him for decades when in reality, Kojima barely knows him. To Kojima, Akio Okutsa is the REAL Snake. All those copes about
>Kiefer is just the fake Snake Hayter will come back as the real one
were hilariously watching in real time.
Anonymous No.718959015
>>718945045

Its a game where you spend 95% of the time playing the game rather tjan watch cutcenes
Anonymous No.718959059 >>718959315 >>718960131
>>718958901
It really isn't. Kojima famously decided to end MGS4 on a happy note because he knew if the end to the franchise was too bleak, no one would like it.

Also if Delta does well, which it almost assuredly will, there will be more MGS games. It's just a matter of time.
Anonymous No.718959092
>>718951834
I always liked gold/silver quiet, kojima has great taste in fetish pornography
Anonymous No.718959282 >>718959591
>>718955723
>Ground Zeroes was a Konami thing
was it? kojima originally wanted the tanker chapter of MGS2 to be sold separately to make the impact of the raiden switch even bigger. ground zeroes is just the tanker chapter of MGSV.
>The real schizo theory about it is that it's just another aspect of the "Cancelled TV Show" narrative throughline MGSV has.
"cancelled tv show" is only half of it. the "reruns" also play into the MK ULTRA narrative. each episode is on a tape, indoctrination happens by playing tapes over and over to the hypnogogic patient. by doing "reruns", it reinforces the idea that the missions themselves ARE the indoctrination and not what happened after the indoctrination. if you combine the "tv show" aspect with the "MK ULTRA" aspect, you can easily get to the commentary being made on television being propaganda that constantly lies to you and warps your sense of identity in every regard.
>there is no documented, measurable, meaningful cut content within MGSV itself.
bro, your return to camp omega?
Anonymous No.718959298
>>718942559 (OP)
MGSV was so bad, kojimacucks had to make up entire storylines to help them cope.
Anonymous No.718959315 >>718959460 >>718959959 >>718960596
>>718959059
I'm sure they would do a MGA and just create a separate story. There's no room in an already bloated Kojima timeline.
Anonymous No.718959460 >>718959657 >>718959747
>>718959315
>There's no room in an already bloated Kojima timeline.
There's plenty of room between MGSV and MG. At worst they can just remake MG to fit in with the rest of the canon instead of an entire game just to explain why there's two BBs lol.
Anonymous No.718959591 >>718961087
>>718959282
...is not in the files. And we have no idea as to what the scope for that even was.
Anonymous No.718959657 >>718960185 >>718962916
>>718959460
MG1 remake is the stupidest fucking most retarded shit idea imaginable so they'll probably go for it because that's what "fans" want
Anonymous No.718959747 >>718959913 >>718960325
>>718959460
For what?
We already know what happens to every existing character.
The only points with "Game" potential are, in timeline order:
>The Boss prequel
>Philanthropy game between 1 and 2 (wouldn't have much of a story though)
>The original Metal Gear Solid: Rising (between 2 and 4)
>a new Raiden game set in the far off future
Anonymous No.718959821
yikes
Anonymous No.718959913 >>718959992
>>718959747
There is a game between 1 and 2
All those cancelled games were trash btw
Anonymous No.718959959
>>718959315
poofy hair
Anonymous No.718959992 >>718960237
>>718959913
>All those cancelled games were trash btw
Only one game I mentioned was cancelled. And there isn't exactly better concepts outside them unless you enter the territory of wholly original characters, and at that point, why's it even in the main series.
Anonymous No.718960052
>>718943063
based
Anonymous No.718960131
>>718959059
>Also if Delta does well, which it almost assuredly will, there will be more MGS games. It's just a matter of time.
I am willing to bet they will just do more remakes.
Look at SH- the studio that did the remake? Doing another remake. They're not doing original projects, and here's a look at how many games Konami can remake:
>Metal Gear 1
>Metal Gear 2
>Metal Gear Solid
>Metal Gear Solid 2
>Metal Gear Solid 4
>Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker
Who knows, maybe we'll reach the point where MGSV can be remade, and if Delta sells well, ALL of these will be assured to sell well.
Any original games will likely be budget shit or MGR2.
Anonymous No.718960185 >>718960341
>>718959657
I am a fan. That's what I want.
Anonymous No.718960237
>>718959992
Metal gear "series" are mostly sub-genres
>metal gear
core concepts around stealth and exploration
>solid
same shit in 3D, kojima's baby so he can add wacky shit like survival and multiplayer
>acid
turn based strategy
>rising
hack n slash
>survive
strand type game :^)
that's why portable ops is a solid game, because it plays like one even if the story has no meaning
Anonymous No.718960325 >>718960580 >>718961068
>>718959747
>We already know what happens to every existing character.
I mean that didn't stop Kojima making the entire Big Boss saga which could've been 2 games at most.
Anonymous No.718960341 >>718960491
>>718960185
I know, can't stand you faggots
Anonymous No.718960491
>>718960341
Too bad.
Anonymous No.718960580 >>718960684 >>718960692
>>718960325
And what did he do in Big Boss' saga?
>Develop Kaz
>Develop Huey
>Develop Zero
>(Later) Develop Ocelot, Volgin
What characters are there that could reasonably be expanded upon? Like, actually interesting significant characters?
Anonymous No.718960596
>>718959315
He’s got Jimmy Nu-tron hair
Anonymous No.718960684 >>718960958
>>718960580
We already knew what happened to every single one of those characters by MGS4.
Anonymous No.718960692
>>718960580
DDog simulator
Anonymous No.718960876
>>718947565
it always triggered my autism that there weren't more crew in the chopper
Anonymous No.718960958 >>718961187
>>718960684
>We already knew what happened to every single one of those characters by MGS4.
Yeah but we didn't actually know much about them.
Zero died and was the main antagonist and everyone went ??? because it came out of fucking nowhere.
Anonymous No.718961065 >>718962032
>canonically assassinated Joseph Stalin and made it look like natural death
When is he getting his Hitman spin-off?
Anonymous No.718961068
>>718960325
It barely even needed to be one game.
Anonymous No.718961087 >>718961296
>>718959591
>implying the only cut content that matters is content that can still be found in the files
what a stupid and arbitrary way of viewing things.
Anonymous No.718961187 >>718961365 >>718961409
>>718960958
>Yeah but we didn't actually know much about them.
Then there's still lots of characters who aren't that fleshed out that we can explore some more. Venom, Frank, Dr. Clark, Donald Anderson, etc. And that's not including any new characters that could be introduced like MGS3 did with an almost entirely original cast.
Anonymous No.718961296 >>718961448
>>718961087
It clearly didn't matter much if nothing related to it, not even mission lists or unused text, exists in the files.
Anonymous No.718961365
>>718961187
MGSV also didn't answer much about anything. We can still easily get a game about Liquid and his merry band and one around Big Boss building the real outer haven.
Anonymous No.718961409 >>718961532 >>718962558
>>718961187
>Venom, Frank
We know their entire life stories.
This isn't a Zero thing where we just see a confusing ending, or a Huey thing where we only know the end, we saw all of them. ALL of them, Frank even showed up in PO for no fucking reason.
The other two are not significant characters in the same way.
Anonymous No.718961448 >>718961653
>>718961296
>the return to gitmo doesn't matter in a game about 9/11 and the war on terror
hmmm
Anonymous No.718961474
>>718942559 (OP)
i remember it being very good but dont know if it hold up well on replays
i liked the base management on the oil rigs but everything was half baked
Anonymous No.718961532
>>718961409
>We know their entire life stories.
We already knew everyone's life stories by MGS4. I don't understand what your point is anymore.
Anonymous No.718961653
>>718961448
>the twin towers in the backdrop while liquid snake is saying its not ever yet
KINO
Anonymous No.718961654
>>718942559 (OP)
V is an incredible game. It actually has a good story too, but it isn't told to you well, especially with how much of the interesting stuff is stuck on audio tapes.
Anonymous No.718962032
>>718961065
It's fucking crazy this guy did a mutiny against Zero and took over Cipher but we only get that from a cassette tape.
Anonymous No.718962558
>>718961409
>Frank even showed up in PO for no fucking reason.
I'd rather forget about that. Null is awful.
Anonymous No.718962663 >>718962890
>>718956558
Metal Gear is a very absurd, video game series though. It often knows it's a video game and uses that in the story and themes. MGSV does that itself. I think a boss fight would've been fine. Only major issue with the gameplay in V is a lack of cool bosses that the older games had.
Anonymous No.718962890 >>718963250
>>718962663
It doesn't rely on cheap spectacle because it has gameplay
Anonymous No.718962916 >>718963729 >>718964021
>>718959657
MG1/MG2 remakes are the only ones that were ever interesting because of how much the story has been changed and retconned since then.
Anonymous No.718962968
He will be watching your Delta playthrough
Anonymous No.718963250 >>718963775
>>718962890
Yeah. A few good Boss fights would be a nice addition to that great gameplay. Parasite unit, Burning Volgin, Quiet, Eli, all could've been better.
Anonymous No.718963729
>>718962916
MG1 and 2 have been retconned into Snake killing Venom, Bibo and Fox. Oh and Campell and Miller were there. That's it, everything else is never mentioned and may as well not exist. With that premise they may as well create a whole new story. I know you're young and you see a 2D game without voice acting and think it will be difficult and whatever but Metal Gear games are very easy by 8-bit standards.
Anonymous No.718963775
>>718963250
They're not bad at all. I find most of the MGS bossfights to be terribly overrated but the ones in V are solid. Sahelanthropus was great. Fighting a mecha on horseback is such a cool concept.
Anonymous No.718963967
>>718956158
That at least could be chalked up to him aging/having his body pieced back together with pieces from the other snakes, or whatever.
Anonymous No.718964021 >>718964483
>>718962916
>how much the story has been changed and retconned since then.
It's fair to say some shit doesn't make as much sense anymore, like the whole OILIX thing. In general though nothing major in MG1/2 has changed at all. If remakes could offer anything it's a few more meaningful character interactions. I don't think that juice is worth the squeeze though.
Anonymous No.718964179
>>718942559 (OP)
All "its unfinished" niggers get the rope
Game is final. No extra chapter or mission will make it any better or complete.
It is SHIT and worst of all the Metal Gear games.
Anonymous No.718964420 >>718964725
>>718954919
>a sword that uses Solid Snake's voice
It uses his... voice? What?
Anonymous No.718964468
>>718955190
>FUCKING PC REEEEEE
>PLAY COD PLAY BLACK PERSON BALL
Embarrasing
Anonymous No.718964483
>>718964021
Sea lice in MGS2 act like reverse OILIX, recycling oil. Though that may be a coincidence.
Anonymous No.718964725
>>718964420
>A weapon exclusive to the Japanese version of the game, the Hebidamashii (蛇魂? Snake Spirit) is available as part of the VR Missions DLC released in March 2013 and can be purchased in-game for 10,000 BP. It is a mystical wooden sword created through the latest advancements in "spiritual technology" in order to pass on the wisdom of the legendary Solid Snake to future generations. It plays a variety of voiced quotes from Solid Snake depending on the situation (i.e. if Raiden encounters one of the Men In Boxes, the Hebidamashii will remark that "people who like cardboard boxes can't be that bad"). Its combat capabilities are otherwise similar to the standard Wooden Sword.
Anonymous No.718964863 >>718965276
This is what the fans want
Anonymous No.718965276 >>718966461
>>718964863
you fucked up my face
Anonymous No.718966461
>>718965276
STANDING
Anonymous No.718966714
Its just a pity it never got an update with more/overhauled content. There was a lot of stuff left on the cutting room floor.
Anonymous No.718967263
I really need to get back and finish TPP. Its the only MGS mainline title I've not finished. Does anyone remember if the
>Ranking
is all entirely based on speed / no spotting/ no actual killing? I think there are also the secret or special objectives which some can only be picked up later (ie there's an early mission where you can only save the special NPC if you get the upgraded fulton balloon system that can literally lift a vehicle) and not sure if they count. Do you have to do all the stuff in a single attempt to get the S or A rank? Or can you do one attempt where you do the minimum objective fast and get lowest timing, do another one where you take a long time and knock out everyone but do all the special missions etc..and eventually all the factors will 'add up' over multiple replays?
Anonymous No.718967390
Op's face when people start shit talking mgsv :O
Anonymous No.718968145
>>718953897
>we didn't finish the game?? nonsense, we're actually visionaries, remember the game we made 15 years ago???? that also pissed you off, didn't it? (for compeletely different reasons)

>omg poor heckin kojima literally didnt even get to finish the game he wasted the budget on while hanging out with guillermo and spending assets on Silent Hills instead
Anonymous No.718968386 >>718969176
>>718955321
>it wasn't unfinished!!! it was just cancelled
sooooooo....
Anonymous No.718969176
>>718968386
The point was more than it's "unfinished" on purpose to evoke the idea of a TV show that got cancelled.
But being unfinished on purpose technically means it was finished.
Anonymous No.718969635
>>718945426
>choose to stand 100 meters from base and headshot every enemy with sleep pistol
>WTF why did kojima force me to do this???
Anonymous No.718969702
Expectation:
>Fight against Zero and his Patriots who basically control the entire world
>Build Outer Heaven
>Final boss is Solid Snake
Reality:
>You just go around saving starving African children and that's it

What is this shit?
Anonymous No.718969917
>>718942713
Dangerously high levels of soi emanating from this post
Anonymous No.718971915
>>718950763
it's been nine years