Thread 718943102

If you have an AMD GPU you really should be gaming on SteamOS.

I need my PC to work. No I am not dumbing it down and turning it into a glorified console just to get more FPS in a nitpicked game I've never heard of.

How do I do this with my old PC

>>718943102 (OP)
wtf is this useless graph

>>718943102 (OP)
>handheld
steamos has less cpu overhead which is great for handhelds, if you're using a desktop with an actual decent cpu it's not gonna make a difference

I'm gaming on CachyOS althoughoweverbeitfully.

>>718943102 (OP)
>Lenovo vs Asus drivers
What does that even mean?

>>718945897
It is handheld fuckery.

>>718945986
So GPU drivers provided by Lenovo and Asus? Why not just get the latest ones from AMD themselves? It's a Zen APU.

>>718943820
Do you have below 90 IQ?

>>718946070
AMD did some fuckery in their drivers so you can't install them on these handheld post May version. Lenovo is famously shit with driver support and released a driver in January, and one just a couple days ago. So Legion Go users had to use the Asus Ally ones between May and now.

>>718944440
Benchmarks don't show any difference between Cachy and SteamOS in performance. It's Bazzite that's the slow one.

>>718947563
>one just a couple days ago
Can't seem to see it on their website. Only the January one.

The funny thing is that new games are basically unusable on windows without "game ready" drivers meanwhile they work fine on a year old Mesa.

>>718948097
drive dot google dot com slash file slash d slash

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slash view

They released on their Chinese site and then removed it but people saved it

I had to write it like this or 4chan blocks it, I wrote dot for the dots and slash for the slashes

>>718948660
>They released on their Chinese site and then removed it but people saved it
Sounds like it's not ready for prime time, then... But thanks for the link

Are you telling me that even with the Xbox full screen experience, the new XboxOS is still significantly worse than the SteamOS? Microsoft truly is pathetic.

>>718950340
P-please understand...

>>718950340
No, this is not using the Windows build in the Xbox Rog Ally

>>718950775
That only frees up 2GB, Windows is still working in the background meaning it's still not going to play well. It'll play better than this but that's about it. It won't come close to the SteamOS performance because it's just not made for gaming.

>>718951273
SteamOS is just Linux it's not some magic OS made for games only

>>718951574
I know but Valve knows how to separate the Gaming Mode from the Desktop Mode, unlike Microsoft.

>valve made the deck to create a new popular form factor
>They're still the market leaders because everyone just refuses to put in usable trackpads and an oled

>>718952435
>and keep making handhelds with shitty efficiency that drains the battery like a power watt

>>718951890
"Game mode" is just running with the gamescope micro-compositor, you can do it on a regular Linux.

Performance wise "game mode" offers no benefit over a similarly setup "desktop mode", however it offers a very nice handheld UI

>>718952794
Anus has an 80wh battery which is a marked improvement over the deck's 50 but they're the worst offender with user experience , no trackpads, no oled

>>718952864
What the fuck is wrong with Windows then?

>>718952435
No, they are the market leaders because they use a really outdated APU so they can be cheaper and offer slightly longer battery life.
I'll buy the Legion Go 2 day one, it will have 120Hz VRR HDR OLED, a big ass battery, and 32GB RAM, but it will also cost over $1000. I understand that's just too much for most people.

>>718953323
Building layers upon layers on a kernel from the 90s while maintaining backwards compatibility with 40 years of software.

>>718953323
Microsoft.

>>718953351
At this rate you might as well wait for 2nm silicon

>>718953351
My fren the chinese are selling a top of the line Strix Point APU in a minipc for $600, and $350 for weaker variants of the chip.
$100 cheaper are the 8840HS, which is previous gen zen4 phoenix.

These APUs are not expensive, and they'll be even less expensive with valve bulk orders (3-5+ million)

>>718953775
Nah, I want to play this in the meantime. Then I can sell it in late 2027 and buy some new shit.
>>718953794
The APU isn't the only element in the cost of a handheld PC, retard kun.

>>718953517
Basically, tech debt?

>>718943102 (OP)
Where's Windows 10?

>>718954078
Tech debt is shit you want to remove but haven't had time. They don't want to remove this.

>>718954259
It's over

>>718943102 (OP)
>GPU
>SteamOS
SteamOS is for handhelds and those have APUs. Maybe you meant Linux.
Pretending that all Linux is SteamOS to make it sound more attractive to normies will just end up confusing them when they can't find a SteamOS release for desktop. And even if they could, letting them think that they had to use "Linux but with a Steam logo" to run games on Linux isn't really a good thing.

>windows 10 iot ltsc
>got hit with some update and now i have to replug my wireless dongles every single fucking boot
>try it on a bazzite craptop
>works flawlessly
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
i'm 100% jumping into linux cold turkey next hardware upgrade, fuck dual booting and all that shit

>>718953323
Nothing.
But there's a lot, LOT wrong with AMD video;
The whole "fine wine" is actually just the video drivers being horrible at launch and getting mediocre over time.

>>718957170
>meanwhile nvidia's drivers in 2025

>>718957529
Work amazing.

>>718958365
(You)

>>718958365
so done with these fucking driver issues on my 5070 ti. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones ITT when my screen went black and I had to turn my whole pc off. im rmaing and switching to 9070 xt fuck it idc anymore.

>>718957529
Performance wise they're great, reliability wise, there's a reason why Matrox is still a thing in 2025

>>718958589
Must be an issue with your ryzen and memory, they're pretty shit compatibility

>>718943343
This. There's no reason to use SteamOS when you can just use Bazzite or any other normal non-LTS Linux distribution.

>>718954078
yes

>>718943102 (OP)
>AMD GPU

>>718960847
nvidia is filled with niggers that explicitly hate consumer linux

>>718961082
Maybe because any OS not called windows struggle to run any fucking games without troubleshooting for 5 hours.

>if you're retarded enough to buy AMD then you should also use the retarded OS
seems fair

>>718961312
and the source of all that shit is malice and nvidia is by far the biggest source of it
even intel gpus run better on linux
linux isn't responsible for anticheats not working on them either, it's butthurt corpos disabling it because it doesn't give dysfunctional spyware kernel access

>>718943102 (OP)
the more you shill linux to me the less I want it

>>718961312
>struggle to run any fucking games without troubleshooting for 5 hours.
Why are you pretending the same doesn't apply to Windows?
>nvidia is shit because of games
nVidia hasn't cared about games in a decade, retard. 99% of their profit comes from data centers, AI and crypto miners. Gamers are irrelevant.

>>718961683
>contrarianism in favor of normie shit
/v/ in 2025

>>718962123
pathetic larp

>>718962247
you would have to be terminally retarded to use linux

sounds like projection to me

>>718962759
linux users are the only ones that pass the very low bar for being able to install an iso while mac and windows contain 100% of the users that are too stupid to make folders

>>718943102 (OP)
>Windows 11

>>718962938
Windows users don't even know what a file is. I remember people constantly sending shortcuts to me via USB or burning shortcuts instead of actual files onto CDs/DVDs.

>>718961312
On my machine at least i have zero "software specific" problems.
It do need an hour to setup the whole thing because i'm very specific on what kind of shit i want, but after that, it just runs (or don't in some cases), there's no 5 hours anything.

>>718943102 (OP)
I don't want to play any of those games

>>718963318
>>718961646
>>718962123
Linux vegans.

loonix troons always making me laugh

i will never install linux if i cant play every multiplayer game with anticheat

>>718963413
>repurposed tendie insult
that's sad and shows the cuck mindset you're coming from
besides, you're the one that entered a thread about a thing you don't like to cry about it and are refusing to understand why people are shitting on you

>>718963413
To be honest with you, i am a windows 7 user forced out of windows 7
I only use linux because i hate it less than Windows 10, and a lot less than OSX, it's an elimination choice, not an actual "hey i like this OS!".

>>718963413
You don't need to be a Linux user to know that all Microsoft products suck ass. I deal with their shit on an almost daily basis, and pretty much all of their software and services are dogshit. OS included.
You can cope and cry as much as you want, but Windows has been shit since around 2010 and it's only gotten worse over time. Linux and MacOS caught up with it and surpassed it a few years ago.

>>718963551
I came here to shit on AMD shitting on linuxfags is just collateral damage.
>>718963627
W7 fags are autists too, no wonder you converted to linux you were always a hipster.

>>718963714
>MacOS
Oh, you are THAT kind of retard.

>>718963723
>i hate everything that's not mainstream
god damn imagine your existence being a footsoldier for the status quo
immeasurably depressing

>>718963714
macs have by all means regressed with cutting the backwards compatibility and going all in on armshit
valve will accidentally save them with arm proton so that's kinda funny

>>718963827
I use what works and is convenient not your shit OS that you need to troubleshoot every day.

My god, you faggots have the exact same autism coffee fags have.

>>718963787
Just because it's almost as shit as Windows, doesn't mean it's not better than it. But it's besides the point that several Linux distributions are significantly better than Windows to the point where sticking with Windows intentionally despite knowing there are better options is a sign of being retarded.

>>718964020
yes, you haven't used amd or linux in 10 years
your opinion is as relevant as that of a caged cattle and their favorite food

>>718964020
>I use what works and is convenient not your shit OS that you need to troubleshoot every day.
That's windows 7, windows 7 is dead.
Windows now is an annoying piece of shit that demands your attention the whole time and you have to constantly fight it to not install peggle again, and that can't even find the fucking application you want on the start bar by the name.
And W11 is that but with a gay ass OSX interface.

>>718964020
>not your shit OS that you need to troubleshoot every day.
So you're not using Windows then?

>>718964162
>>718964187
>>718964196
>NOOOOOOO YOU MUST USE LINUX YOU CAN'T JUST USE THE OPTION THAT WORKS
>YOU CAN'T JUST USE THE POPULAR CHOICE
>YOU MUST BE A SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE LIKE MEEEEEE
Linuxfags are insufferable, they are massive attention whores.

>>718964541
you entered a linux thread shilling windows
you're the attention whore here

>>718964541
Windows 10 don't work for me, simple as.

>>718964187
This. Thank fuck Windows 11 is such a broken mess that my work machine's Windows updater actually broke, so it never bothers me with updates because it can't even download or apply them anymore as of last year.

>>718964541
Everything on Windows is such a fucking inconvenience for no reason at all.
People are just trying to help you avoid eating shit. If you don't want to be helped, then get the fuck out.

>>718943102 (OP)
>Lenovo Legion Go

>>718964604
I entered an AMD thread, and you made it about linux.
>>718964634
works on my machine :^)
>>718964654
>NONONONONO DO NOT REDEEM THE OS!!!!

>>718964808
>I entered an AMD thread, and you made it about linux.
See >>718943102 (OP)
>If you have an AMD GPU you really should be gaming on SteamOS.
>SteamOS

>>718964808
>works on my machine :^)
Well it doesn't work on mine, and neither does Windows™ 11.
Meanwhile, Bazzite™ Linux™ just works fine and the experience it provides is infinitely better.

>>718964808
so you're here to shill nvidia
that's even worse lmao, you're still a goy defending status quo
this bootlicking cuck shit is what allowed them to slash their gpu driver development

>>718964808
Type a name of a program and press enter without looking.

>>718964873
>>718965023
>>718965025
>>718965072
Special snowflakes, hipsters, vegans, linuxfags.

>>718965309
>i will win this argument by shitting myself, crying and namecalling
stay in school

>>718965506
I won, simply because I didn't have to open the command window every time I wanted to post something while trying to troubleshoot an internet browser

>>718952435
>They're still the market leaders because everyone just refuses to put in usable trackpads and an oled
No it's because every other handheld is some kind of bloated windows 11 piece of shit that costs a magnitude more than the Steam Deck, or in the case of ASUS it's a faulty piece of shit that will brick itself and ASUS will deny a warranty claim because they make all the rules.

>>718965630
alright, i'm demoting you
you haven't used linux ever, not just the 10 year mark and you're clearly seeking attention
stay in school, maybe they'll teach you not to lie this transparently

>>718965739
I never used linux, period, I'm not a vegan, hipster or special snowflake.

>>718965630
I don't know if you know it, but in actually well written OSes, when you type something, it will obey this something instead of doing a retarded internet search or bring the uninstall or something completely fucking unrelated.
And it won't install a new keyboard on each update because you dare to use a non-US keyboard with an US OS.

>>718965827
did you really think that admission makes you look good?

>>718963413
>HURRR DURR I AM A RETARD
We know, retard.

>>718943102 (OP)
>orange and slightly darker orange in the same chart
what retard made this shit?

>>718943102 (OP)
>If you have an AMD GPU you really should be gaming on SteamOS.

SteamOS isn't even avaliable to download.

>>718965848
>I don't know if you know it, but in actually well wri-ACK
>>718965926
It makes me normal, which is by default makes me better than linuxfag hipsters.
>>718965953
You know that you are vegan? I accept your concession.

>>718966129
it makes you clueless
your opinion about linux is as valuable as that of a woman about bricklaying

>>718966290
Your opinion as a linuxfag for OS is as valuable as the opinion of a vegan in a BBQ.

>>718966373
i experienced both windows and linux, and judging by your low iq responses i experienced windows in its prime too, unlike you
there's no reason for anyone to have such insane loyalty to it after seeing the massacre that occurred after 7 was executed in its prime

>>718966129
He asked for it, he was warned about it, and it happened.

For those on the fence about switching, I cold-turkey switched to Linux after Windows corrupted my bootloader twice last year and I haven't looked back at all. Everything worth playing is on here, and if you want shit like HDR, KDE has come a long way in supporting it. Only thing you can't do is anti-cheat crap but that's relegated to multiplayer slop and gachashit.

t. Ryzen 5600 + 6800xt user whose experience is far more stable on OpenSUSE than Windows. Also for bandfags, pipewire is so much easier than Windows audio fuckery.

>>718966513
Show a webm with the same situation happening but on Windows, I'll wait while sitting, don't worry.
>>718966510
>W7 nostalgiafag
lol, lmao, get by the times, get a grip, get a clue.

>>718966710
>the os being measurably less bloated and jeeted and spyware infested is just nostalgia bro
horrible bait

>>718966129
>The intended GUI installer doesn't work
>retard opens a terminal despite not having to do this, and despite the terminal being for advanced users only
>terminal explicitly says "this will kill your PC"
>retard types in "OK, kill my PC"
>PC gets destroyed
>act surprised
The same would happen to any Windows user, your argument is invalid.

>>718966710
>Show a webm with the same situation happening but on Windows
I'm not going to install Windows just to prove a point.

>>718966710
Windows don't have this specific issue because you're not allowed to replace the window manager on it.
It's just the flat shit it comes with it and that's it.
What linus did here was literally uninstall explorer/GDI.
Also he would be able the reinstall the shit by command line.

>>718966862
>The same would happen to any Windows user, your argument is inv-ACK
You can't show a webm because such thing would never happen to an average windows user.
>>718966804
>He thinks linux is spyware free
lol, lmao even.
>>718967071
>Windows don't have this specific issue
Stopped reading right there, I accept your concession.

>>718967176
>African lawyer strategies

>>718967176
feel free to audit the code yourself if you think there's some rogue code in there, there's a lot of money in it
i like how you didn't even contest the bloat and jeetification of windows, a concession by omission

>>718967176
>You can't show a webm because such thing would never happen to an average windows user.
You do realize Windows users get viruses all the time because they download software from whatever the first result on Google is?

>>718967293
>NOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST WIN NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU MUST NOT INSULT LINUX *troubleshoots his audio for 1 hour*
>>718967359
>no saar there is no spyware saar do not redeem the code saar
>>718967591
>Muh viruses,
No such thing in the current year, you have to do a retarded linux user and fuck around with obscure random bullshit to get a virus anymore.

>>718953323
AMD exclusively maintains all the drivers
on linux the only thing they directly maintain is AMDKFD (used for their CUDA clone) and AMDGPU which are much smaller than their windows kernel drivers
mesa, which implements vulkan and opengl is maintained by independent contributors, other graphics companies, valve employees (valve wrote the current shader compiler for AMD gpus, previously it used llvm like the windows drivers), and some AMD staff
dxvk and vkd3d which implement directx on top of vulkan are maintained mostly by valve employees

their are actually efforts to get mesa working on windows through reverse engineering the low level windows kernel driver interface however i don't know if it will actually result in performance increases

>>718953517
>he says this like it's a bad thing but then shits and pisses himself when a the latest OS breaks compatibility with old software

Well, I'm going back to playing vidya with my NVIDIA card and W10 without troubleshooting anything because it just works.

Fuck AMD sissies and fuck Linux vegans, my job here is done.

>>718967965
>NOOOOOOOO
Stopped reading there, I accept your scream of defeat.

>>718967965
the burden of proof is on you jeet
you have all the means to audit the linux code
meanwhile the same can't be said for windows
so either do your homework or shut up, you're not convincing anyone

>>718943102 (OP)
nah, Debian just works for me

>>718969165
Raw debian?
A man of culture, or at least of not using aids.

>>718943102 (OP)
What GPU? Last time I checked, the 9000 series GPU drivers gave less performance than on Windows.