Thread 718949912

I'm a PC Gamer who uses my tv instead of a monitor. I'm tired of being ridiculed by the PC Community. There is nothing wrong with hooking your PC up to a TV. A good TV at that

Based

as long as you have the TV set to gaming mode and the input delay isnt too bad

>>718949912 (OP)
Very based
Deskoids will never be this comfy and immersed

>>718949912 (OP)
Some televisions are really good for gaming. Just have to do a little research for refresh rates and true blacks.

>>718949912 (OP)
Same but I use a 42" LG C2 OLED because I don't hate myself

>>718950220
>that wallpaper

65 inch s90d any good for 900?

>>718949912 (OP)
It used to be a bigger difference back in the day so the stigma kind of stuck around, TV's are much better at handling PC's now

>>718950290
>Same but I use a 42" LG C2 OLED because I don't hate myself
thats fair. I want to upgrade and im trying to decide between a Samsung S90D and the LG C4. Also 42 inch cause thats the size of my current tv and its the perfect size for my setup. Which one do oyu guys think is better? I use my pc for gaming but also pc stuff like photo/video editing and recently began doing stablefdiffusion

>>718950427
Samsung's TV OS kinda sucks balls, go with LG

>>718949912 (OP)
Okay but where the fuck do I buy a quality tv that doesnt have all the smart spyware

>>718950303
sounds good to me whats not to like for that price ?

>>718950692
unfortunately you cant. You could buy a smart tv and just never connect it to the internet

>>718950745
run time hours is 320

>>718950303
I have a 55" s90c (watching stuff on it right now actually) and i think it's pretty good. I've played a few games at 4k on it as well and it surprised me at how clean it looked. I don't think you can go wrong with the s90d which is the newer model obviously. Just make sure you have hdmi 2 cables on hand.

thats okay. but using your tv as a monitor is always a compromise. as 27" is the perfect size

>>718951125
the S90F came out recently so its the latest model but it probably isnt all that different from the s90D companies just want you to buy new thing .

>(watching stuff on it right now actually)
any worries about burn in ?

>>718950220
>immersed
>tiny display due to distance

>>718950512
I had gotten a 43 Samsung right before covid. The OS on it was pretty good. Unfortunately the TV had shit itself back in January, so I got a 55 inch Samsung. I don't know what the fuck Crystal UHD is but this TV looked like shit. The sides for some reason had this DSE bullshit along them. I had Samsung replace the screen last month and it still had the same issue, so now I'm in the process of being reimbursed for it. The DSE issues were pretty distracting depending on what was on the screen, I'd get a migraine from it. Why didn't I return it right away? Unfortunately for me I decided to thoroughly play Silent Hill 2 on it first, which was too dark and dull to notice there was an issue, so I missed out on returning it. The new OS is also shit, along with the new remote it came with, so I just used my old one.

>>718952751
Crystal UHD was literally their branding for entry level panels lol

>>718951821
>any worries about burn in ?
nta but you really shouldn't be worried about burnin unless you have some every specific, very weird usecases.
my 6 year old LG C9 has only just started dimming, at 19,000 hours on

i use this for gaming

>>718951821
Yeah probably just small improvement iterations from model to model. I've used it for quite awhile now (since Christmas the year before last) and no signs of burn in. It has that pixel shift thing as well which helps I think. As far as I'm aware they also did a revision of the s90c to make the panels more resilient to burn in so I can only image that the panels used for s90d (and most probably the s90f then too) are even better in that regard so I don't really think it's a massive concern.

>>718953208
Imagine*

>>718952934
I'm just gonna avoid that shit. Probably go for something smaller too.

>>718949912 (OP)
I use 43 inch Samsung TV as a monitor myself.

Any good potential upgrade that isn't OLED?

>>718954181
>Any good potential upgrade
oled

>>718954238
I use it as a PC monitor.
Task bars are going to burn in a month

>>718954283
there isnt anything better unless you go oled. hide the taskbar and use oled prevention shit in the tvs menu

>>718954349
>hide the taskbar and use oled prevention shit in the tvs menu
No, having to adjust yourself to technology and give up on your lifelong customs make it pointless.

>>718954283
You hide the taskbar and have everything but movies and games windowed so you can move them around the screen every so often.
Even if you left everything in the same spot modern oleds would take years before anything resembling burn-in happens.

>>718949912 (OP)
>There is nothing wrong with hooking your PC up to a TV. A good TV at that
input lag.

>>718949912 (OP)
If you aren't some competitive schizo thinking you'll make it in e-sports then any TV blows the fuck out of any monitor on image quality.

>>718954586
Modern TVs have input lag on par with any regular monitor.

>>718954614
>any TV blows the fuck out of any monitor on image quality.
objectively false. editors use pro monitors for video editing, not consumer TVs.

>>718954730
... provided you disable all the image processing, at which point you may as well use a monitor.

>>718949912 (OP)
trash

>>718949912 (OP)
It's the objectively best way to play games. Big fuck-off oled TV and a few booming speakers to the side and back.

Unless your diet consists of 4X games or FPS. Most games benefit from not being played on a desk, though.

>>718954859
>... provided you disable all the image processing, at which point you may as well use a monitor.
The point of TV is that it's large and comfy, not image processing shit.
And it can be controlled remotely, while accepting multiple input sources.

>>718950290
Retards don't know what they're missing. I don't want to go back to miniature screens.

>>718954586
Fun fact, PCfags knowledge of how things work outside of the PC environment is dated by at least 10year on average. They think physical games are download tokens. The only experience they have with TVs is the budget set thier parents bought during black friday in 2010. They go by rumors, hearsay and generally believe whatever lines up with their beliefs without really knowing what they are talking about. Theres living under a rock and then theres being a pcfag right next to it

>>718954586
What lag? Do you realize most TV's nowadays are sub 9ms, which is the same as monitors?

Same for monitor or tv:
60hz = 9ms
120hz = 5ms
240hz = 3ms

The muh lag excuse stopped being valid since like 2019.

>>718954859
>objectively false. editors use pro monitors for video editing, not consumer TVs.
Pro equipment mainly focuses on color accuracy.

And color accuracy is largely overrated and often misunderstood in customer environment. The customer is supposed to adjust the colors to their preferences.
That's why color accuracy is only important in production environment, so that things look good on different user settings.

Imagine buying a 2k gpu to play on a 20seomthing inch monitor.

my pc is hooked up to my tv and monitors depending on if I want to play sitting or laying in bed
99% of the games I play are on a controller yet I still choose to play at my desk 90% of the time because I like sitting back in my chair and shitposting on my second monitor
both of them are OLED so I don't choose based on display quality

>>718954909
please delete this or i will cry

>>718955353
i have a single big tv but sometimes i understand and want the second monitor. having to alt tab out of a game to look something up or do other shit is annoying sometimes if i had a second monitor i wouldnt need to . i like big screens though hence my current predicament

>some of the OLEDfags are here
once the HDR autists join in im leaving

when's MicroLED

The only downside of using TV as a monitor is that I sit more far away from it, so it's very hard to pixel hunt in games that require autistic aiming.

But I modified a reshade magnifier filter, so that I magnify the screen on the click of a button lmao

My monitor is an asus vh238h, it's like 15 years old and only does 1080p 60hz and I'm pretty sure it's a TN display
What do I upgrade to? I'm too poor to get an OLED and worry about burn in and I'm scared of input lag because I'm autistic and play fighting games with frame perfect inputs

>>718955727
oledCHADS*
hdrGODS*
ftfy

>>718955870
why do you want to upgrade ?

>>718955870
Get a crt

>>718949912 (OP)
>ridiculed by the PC Community
Who the fuck does this? They're wrong.
TVs are in fact not a scam unlike pc monitors. Some TVs are especially better for gaming in nearly every single way and are comparatively cheaper. Those monitors prices are retarded when TV offer better quality with higher res and sizes.
it just feel good to game on a giant screen.

>>718955931
yea im out

>>718955870
I'm an admitted OLED shill (and I do it for free) but with that shit monitor even if you get a 1440p 144hz IPS you're going to be blown away by the upgrade. 1080p60 (and TN) are irredeemable garbage

>>718955727
The weak should fear the strong

>>718955956
because the switch 2 can do higher resolutions and framerates
and also because I took the monitor to tournaments and it has scratches and dead pixels on the screen that annoy me
>>718956047
there's literally too many options and the prices all scare me, I have no idea what to get
I'm scared the input lag will be worse and I'll have wasted my money

About OLED, should i use the default settings of my monitor or there are some recommended ones for better image quality?
i have a gigabyte FO27Q3

>>718950220
Nice setup, but I like sitting much closer.

>>718955870
I'm an oled shill (for free!) and I would NEVER tell you to go for one as your single monitor. It's just too risky.
Hell there isn't even a single good OLED monitor I would recommend for the richest of fags because they have no strobing modes, and oled technology is completely wasted without strobing, this is something not many people realize. The only good OLED displays are TVs, I have yet to find a single good oled one. I'm waiting on Blurbuster to tune one.
So yeah just buy the best bang for bucks IPS, stick to 120hz it's enough (144hz is good too but make sure to use VRR properly, if you want higher Hz, stick to multiples of 60s instead, like 180hz or 240hz)
>input lag
A modern fast gaming IPS with VRR should be way snappier than your current display. 60hz vsync alone is a huge hit to input lag in generals, there's ways around that but it's complicated.

Maybe one day someone will release an oled monitor for 200 bucks, then it would be worth buying and replace it every few years once it inevitably burns. Until that happens the best way to oled is a dedicated oled TV for content consooomption, gaming and an IPS/VA for browsing and working (what I'm doing now)

>>718956907
why the fuck do they make 144hz displays when everything runs in multiples of 30?

>>718956907
based MOTION fag. the oledfag name is wasted on you. just as oleds are wasted without strobing. do not worry motion-fag. soon the crt beam simulator will become standard. and oleds will have a true reason for existence. 60fps gaming will be reborn

I have a 165hz 1ms 39 inch 1440p monitor and it's not far. I get the 80 inch TV experience essentially with better everything. Its the hidden gem in PC gaming and it's been extremely good to me for years now. Year 3 and it's still a beast.

>>718956907
>the best bang for bucks IPS
what are some examples
even with that limiter there's still ten trillion options and I have no idea how to browse or pick among them

>>718950128
>playing anything where input delay even matters
I’m not trans I don’t have to worry about that

>>718956781
Way too close for that screen size. Uncomfy as fuck.

>>718956781
This is a nice set up anon

What's a good OLED that doesnt cost 2k? Is it more logical to just get an OLED monitor?

>>718957236
You have to understand these monitors companies absolutely don't give a fuck about what you do with these things. They just focus on bigger numbers better and don't care about the things as long the numbers are better so they can justify higher prices.
But still 144hz is useful for 120fps games because VRR needs some Hz higher than your target FPS. If you get a 120hz display than your VRR framerate will be 117 instead, that's kind of bad as a few game assets like prerendered movies will expect 60/120fps framepacing and they will stutter at 117.

>>718957238
Yeah hopefully man, I just want people to have a better time gaming, and also not get scammed by these companies.

>>718957594
what size do you want? I bought a 48" LG B4 for $699 and a 27" 1440p 240hz for $650
im very happy with both of them

>>718957594
find an used LGC1 that has no dead pixels
use any random IPS for browsing
>>718957348
You'll have to google that or browser Rtings.com

is going from a 1080p monitor to a 1440p monitor worth it? or does it just fuck up the scaling if you're not playing in native res since it's not an integer scale like 1080p to 4k?

>>718957757
I dont need anything more than 65" my current LCD is around there and honestly at times I wish it was smaller mostly because I live in a small apartment. How's the UI on the B4? Ive got an LG and its the slowest shit in the world. I just use a roku instead because its much faster.

>>718957882
Not really. The best thing about it is your desktop browsing experience is a LOT better with more space for your windows and multitasking, for gaming it's definitly sharper but hitting native 1440p is quite a bit harder on the GPU and you can't get away with too much upscaling unless you're on nvidia with dlss or amd 9070 (fsr4)

>anons posting pictures of their battlestations in their own homes
>im stuck living at my moms house
I have a powerful pc and a decent setup but i still feel like a cuck because of that fact. maybe i should have saved my money and put it towards buying a house or something idk

>>718957917
the software on the B4 is fucking ATROCIOUS, it's both slow and clunky as fuck. I don't really care too much about that though, I wish it was better but it's not like I interact with it much
it's insane to me that LG can be the gold standard of displays yet they make such trash software

>>718958113
I live with my parents and just treat my bedroom as a 1 room apartment
it sucks but paying rent and having to live around browns sucks more
I'm a useless neet regardless so I'm probably going to die here no matter what i do

>>718958113
if you dont have a reason to move out like job or gf its best you save a lot of money for that house while also contributing to your parents. I just give around $100 a month + lawncare and other bs

>>718958149
Thats unfortunate. I dont know how any of these manufacturers can get away with the awful UI. Its broken out of the box. Id imagine their intent is not dissimilar from that of phone manufacturers that rely on you buying additional hardware or accessories to supplement the inefficiencies that any consumer will have no choice but to deal with

i like having 2 monitors so

give me the best IPS monitor above 120hz that I can buy right NOW

>>718949912 (OP)
No currently available panels are good for gaming because they all have motion blur.
The absolute best screen you could get would be a second hand plasma, preferably one of the final models that panasonic did.

They have perfect blacks and absolutely zero motion blur, and they don't need memes like BFI or HDR or anything else because they already have outstanding image quality and contrast.

>>718957882
it does and looks blurry. i play 720p integer on my 1440p monitor because it looks soulful and im a poorfag. the best monitor upgrade is 120hz (or 240 for the extra clarity and input lag) and contrast

>>718959773
or the blurbuster verified monitor if your a MOTION fag

>>718958297
Same, but I end up paying for water, internet, and groceries which happen to be the most expensive out of the three. My mom doesn't like to cheap out on food like I do so I can't compromise with her. The lack of privacy does suck. I'm constantly annoyed by her except during the late hours at night. I wish I could jerk off in my bedroom.

explain to me why you need all that fancy nonsense. as long as a screen is 1008p or 1440p and 175 hz its good

>>718960452
you dont. but if your a DEPTH fag. then oled or mini-led is desirable. only if you like staring at le pretty thing

>>718954283
i've been using my OLED TV for desktop (10h a day for work + vidya) for about 2 years and there's literally 0 burn in and no visible dimming.

>>718956781
immensely comfy

>>718961535
do you hide the taskbar? do you use the built in pixel shift things that people say you have to run

I have a 48" OLED monitor (GQ900) which is on all day every day. It's been like this for 2 years. No burn in.

>>718961640
i do hide the taskbar and have my wallpaper on a slideshow; those are the only two things i did to actively prevent burnin
everything else is just the TV's default

>>718961872
how often do you change wallpapers? i dont have an oled but want one some day. i currently have my wallpapers set to change once every 24 hours and im on windows

>>718956781
a whole two inches of space for the mouse
why do people use mouses like this lmao

>>718956781
what game is that

>>718957882
if visibility matters at all, like for a shooter where targets arent just right in front of you, yeah its necessary

>>718961964
that's completely fine - you need to keep the SAME thing on your screen in the same place for MOST OF THE TIME for it to cause damage
check this for an example of how extreme you have to go for burnin to show up:
https://youtu.be/k-NOoMklpPM?t=222
in real life terms this is 5+ years at the very least, and i do not experience anything visible in my case.

>>718951925
It's a wide angle shot retard
It's 75" from about 7 feet away

>>718956781
What center is that?

>>718957348
A Hisense that uses the ADS Pro panel