Thread 718960471

The hardest part is not getting lost every 30 seconds.

>>718960471 (OP)
bro the map tells you where you are

The hardest part is resisting the urge to bhop past everyone since when they catch you they can't actually pursue you at all. The guards are like roombas.

>>718960471 (OP)
What's the problem, not enough yellow paint for you?

>>718960741
Ah yes, the map, what a relief.

>>718960471 (OP)
the Lost City level gave me a sense of adventure no other game has in a while. Would be cool to get an adventure game more about being a rogue and less about being a fighter or mage.

>>718960770
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnpp-OnHWpw
woe! hammerite steel be sent to meet thou's head

>>718961064
my fav part is when it says "where am I?"
maximum ludo

One of the few good uses of AI:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZfEOncjZwA

>>718960471 (OP)
TDP is trash, there I said it. T2 is so far superior it's not even funny.

>>718961249
kek, thanks for sharing this anon

>>718961070
>Would be cool to get an adventure game more about being a rogue and less about being a fighter or mage.
unfortunately this will never happen because getting lost and having to do incidental mental labor like triangulating yourself with a compass are seen as game design bad practices.

>>718961306
I prefer the catacombs and weird shit of TDP rather than the warehouses and high-tech stuff of T2. Both are amazing games tho.
>>718961362
>getting lost and having to do incidental mental labor like triangulating yourself with a compass are seen as game design bad practices
who decided that? the minimum common denominator that modern game designers insist so much on appealing to? fuck 'em all man, I want games to be cool again

>>718960471 (OP)
>complete thief without mid level saves
>endless bitching and moaning about levels comes from people who checkpoint every three minutes and never have to repeat progress
I mean if you don't like the game you don't like the game but suck it up for christ.

>>718961519
>I prefer the catacombs and weird shit of TDP rather than the warehouses and high-tech stuff of T2. Both are amazing games tho.
>round the corner into the 8th similar looking hallway
TDP is miserable to play as a game. Even the manor in the first mission is endlessly labyrinthian. MIssions like The Sword are ridiculously overrated. T2 is the superior game by far.

>be Garret, master thief
>grab moss arrow
>break the tip, spray that shit all over my boot soles
>game beaten, Trickster seething
kek, that was easy

>>718962086
No good. Those are nice boots and it's a bitch to clean!

>>718961249
Fucking kek

for a board so full of niggers one would have assumed a thread about Thief would have done better

>>718965310
Go back

>>718966480
>Mandy soundtrack in the last level
I screamed kino so loud

>>718960471 (OP)
>fr fr no cap this game is skibidi ohio on god

>>718960471 (OP)
Why is every single level outside of Bafford's Manor complete dogshit? Thief 2 is like this as well with only a couple of good ones.

>>718966480
Jaws of Darkness was the best mission in my opinion. But the Long Shadow was pretty good as well

How come there hasn't been a stealth game that captured the same feel as Thief?

>>718966480
This was one of the best gaming experiences from the last 5 years and it shows good core gameplay, smart level design and soulful art direction beats multi million triple A slop. The fact that this is a free mod makes it all the more hilarious how incompetent game devs are these days. I hope we get an expansion for this which adds one or two more maps to expand the story a bit and give it more breathing room.

>>718968247
It was a game literally made by nerds for nerds. Clear vision, excellent cutscenes and dialogues, huge levels, no handholding. The graphics at the time let your imagination fill the gaps, so you just fully immersed yourself in the game's world.

System Shock better

>>718967196
Jaws of Darkness was pure kino from start to finish, but every map had its own amazing moments.
>when you enter DeWalls's chamber and the music from Assassin's kicks in
>forbidden library in the Keeper mission
>Noirequier's tomb and that fiery pit

>>718968783
naaaah

have you heard the good word of Father Karras? https://youtu.be/fayDMnIXylA

How about some flames to warm up the thread? I hate FMs that underemphasize gameplay. Scarlet cascabel is much beloved, and it does have neat graphics and set pieces, but it's a chore to actually play. There are barely any guards, so the stealth element is practically absent.
Another widely beloved mission I found underwhelming was alcazar. Its weird level design doesn't immerse you into a strange universe, but just feels awkward to me.
Rose garden has a very nice multi-level city architecture, as well as tough sections and original gameplay, but I can't help but also feel that the traversal across gardens and rooftops felt a bit forced, and there wasn't any reasonable way to tackle the assassins in a fight. I'm glad I played the level to witness the city, but I didn't feel like it was well-designed for a fun experience.

As for mods I liked, ascend the dim valley is great, and I would've recommended a mid summer heist as well if it were not for the gem requirement I wasn't able to fullfil. I hate strict limits, not to mention, the whole loot system makes a lot less sense in a single-mission campaign mod

>>718968995
True. I feel that the Hammerite mission was the weakest sadly, but the sound design in the level was fantastic

>>718963319
listen man I come here to talk about sneaking past guards and frobbing loot, not to dodge racial slurs. knock that shit off, it's like dropping a moss arrow onto a tile floor-embarrassing and defeats the point.

>>718968995
That entire DeWalls sequence felt like a dream. The echoing Mechanist drones in the distance, the cold hum of those turbines, and then boom-Assassin's Theme just slices through the atmosphere like Garrett’s blackjack. Absolute chills. Keeper’s library was also peak Thief: disorienting architecture, layered objectives, and that weird echo effect when you frobbed that ancient tome. Noirequier’s tomb gave me Bonehoard flashbacks but with modern polish. It’s wild how each mission manages to be *the best one* until you hit the next.

>>718961306
>TDP is trash, there I said it. T2 is so far superior it's not even funny.
i agree but not for what youre thinking
i just fucking hate the monster/zombie missions in T1, why add mandatory combat missions to a stealth game?

>>718970732
you don't have to battle them
plus blowing a zombie with a holy water arrow while they t-pose for a moment is some of the most satisfying shit I've seen in vidya

>>718960471 (OP)
You only have this issue if you cant draw a mental map

>>718968535
This. It’s almost infuriating to realize that the talent is still here, but the western vg industry just deliberately choose to go into full slop mode instead.
And there are a lot of other Thief fms with the same level of quality. Scarlet Cascabel, Into the Odd, Alcazar, and two or three dozens of other fms are on the same level of quality. They are single missions tho, not full fledged 10-missions campaigns.

>>718970258
>Rose Garden
You are supposed to erase the signs on the walls, so that the assassins don’t attack your target.

>>718963319
based name of the rose poster

>>718970558
you quoted the wrong anon but I'll let you know, that post with the slurs? twas just a bump from page 10, pay no mind

>>718961249
I remember this was on another account and was removed, bowels of Lyg or such, funny af
kinda miss the threads when the AI voice gens were a novelty

>>718967120
The Sword is complete and utter kino, you're a faggot

>>718970258
What I hate the most in FMs when it comes to loot is that most of the time I spend an hour backtracking the whole map to get the loot requirement which is usually around 5000 needed or so and when I finally beat the mission and check the stats it turns out that the required loot was only half the total amount in the mission despite how fucking hard it was just to make the minimum requirement. I at least prefer the ones where there's maybe only like 500 or so more gold total than the required amount.

>>718960471 (OP)
There's nothing like this game, nothing.
Not even Metal Age. You can't remake it either.
And making a sequel/reboot without LGS is pointless. Deadly Shadows was a mild disappointment. The SquareEnix one was a huge let down. And the upcoming VR one's only saving grace is that it's so niche, it'll go by like a fart in the wind.

>>718961249
Someone needs to make an FM out of this.

>>718960471 (OP)
this game needs a "see in the dark" potion. this game needs a "see in the dark" potion.

>>718961249
Needs to be more smarmy

>>718972765
You don’t need to see when you have ears.

my friend is making play black parade as my first thief game
it feels like metal gear where hes telling me what options i can take and shouting esoteric bullshit every 5 minutes

>>718966480
WHEN I WAS
A YOUNG BOY

>>718972765
there is one, it's called cranking up the brightness in the options menu

>>718972765
Quit playing during the daytime or start covering your window when you play Thief.

>>718972765
crank up your monitors gamma levels

>>718974324
Anon your friend is a retard, play the first Thief game first whether its the original Dark Project version or the Gold version. TBP is a fangame and you won't get any of the references or story if you haven't played the 3 Thief games.

>>718972765
Play on a CRT or OLED.

>>718974324
>playing a mod first
Fucking zoomers

First play the first game, then play the second game, then play FMs. You don't know what the fuck is going on, you're starting with fanfiction

>>718974324
>hes telling me what options i can take and shouting esoteric bullshit every 5 minutes
WTF, that sounds unbearable. Anon, just play the first game and keep playing it if you enjoy it. Tell our friend to fuck off.

I think stealth games just aren't for me. I couldn't even get past the first level of Thief. I was just wandering around the mansion having no idea what the fuck I'm even supposed to do and realized this shit fucking sucks, then quit and uninstalled.

>>718972326
>that pouch of money put on the floating in the void platform
kek
even if you somehow got there, you couldn't jump back since the exit is on a higher ground

>>718961619
>endlessly labyrinthian.
you a pussy

unpopular opinion but you shouldn't play on Expert for your first time like many Thief boomers suggest

Thief is not zoomerbrain friendly and the restrictions and extra objectives can lead to frustration

>>718972671
Try dark messiah lil bitch

>>718974324
why is your friend telling you to play Black Parade instead of the first or second game? are they stupid?

>>718960471 (OP)
The hardest part is actually fighting against your automated quicksaving so you don't softlock on top of a tiny ledge that keeps sliding you down into lava

Fuck it I've never finished either TDP or TMA so I'm gonna go replay both games in expert and finally finish them so that I can feel "allowed" to play The Dark Mod and The Black Parade.

>>718982453
bros am I retarded or are these two statements contradictory
>new dark isn't accurate to vanilla dark project
>here's this patcher which installs newdark which is as close to vanilla as possible