Thread 718965064

Well /v/?

worthless gay shit

>>718965064 (OP)
right guy didn't let jamal buck break him

A great game and a great sequel

>>718965064 (OP)
Pretty boys that women masturbate to, what else is there to say?

>>718965064 (OP)
Aria is the better game, SOTN has better presentation

>>718965064 (OP)
DraarD vs AlucculA

>>718965064 (OP)
Netflix ruined Alucard forever, so Soma wins by default.

>>718965064 (OP)
One pushes shit in, the other gets his shit pushed in.

>>718965064 (OP)
Who would win in a fight? That's a good question considering they're both pretty powerful. I guess Alucard has canonically defeated Dracula and Soma IS basically Dracula, so Alucard?
Game-wise I think SotN has higher highs but lower lows. AoS is definitely the more polished and tightly designed game even if it's in a more humble package.
Character-wise Alucard's design and voice is iconic but Soma has an actual character arc.

>>718965064 (OP)
are you asking which one would be the bottom?

>>718965964
Alucard takes it in the ass, unfortunately.

>>718965281
Pretty much this. The soul system puts in a lot of fucking work but the castle itself is pretty tightly designed as well. Problem is, it's a GBA game so it's never going to match what was the most deliberately extravagantly styled 2D game to ever exist at its time.
I'm somewhat sad nobody's ever attempted to make a "Aria of Sorrow if it were released in place of Symphony of the Night" because I think that'd be the best game in the genre without a shadow of a doubt.

>>718965064 (OP)
Having first played SotN fairly recently, AoS > SotN. Inverted Castle sucks balls and the underground area is way too big and has dull music. AoS isn't entirely innocent of this either, but its equivalent isn't as big.
SotN has some funny event rooms though. Like the haunted confessional and the hanging room where the bird makes a nest.

>>718965281
I feel like the biggest thing holding SOTN back is the awful difficulty, or lack thereof.
Aria has some pretty hard moments, like the Death fight.

>>718965594
>Draard
>AlucculA
>Dra
>culA
>DRACULA
GUYS

>>718967578
wtf, are they related????

>>718965064 (OP)
Soma my goat

>>718966505
I really didn't like the soul system. The idea of getting abilities from monsters is really cool, but I found in practice it just streamlined a lot of the variety in SotN.
I suppose to some people who thought SotN was bloated that might be a good thing. But I liked how SotN magic is just "knowing", that was cool. Also you didn't have to juggle souls, and they weren't all constrained to mana/magic like they are in Aria, which I found made AoS and DoS to devolve into just spamming warg or whatever and ignoring everything else.

>>718965064 (OP)
SOTN
>better animation and graphics, better presentation in general really
>better ost
>alucard is cooler personality wise
AOS
>better gameplay, soul system is kino
>better castle
>soma is cooler aesthetically
Comes out in the wash but I'd give the slight edge to AoS because I'm nostalgic for it. I didn't play SOTN until I was a bit older but AoS was one of my first castlevania games.

>>718965064 (OP)
Netflix and its consequences have been a disaster for Alucard's image.

>>718965064 (OP)
SoTN and the GBA games arent even close mostly because of the GBA's washed out colors and awful sound chip. Also HoD > AoS. HoD is the closest thing to SoTN.

>>718968394
Nah it's just you.

Can you fuckers not understand that videogame Alucard and tv show Alucard are completely different people?

audio/visual wise SOTN is invincible, gameplay is alright but the balance makes it trash.

What the FUCK where they thinking?

>>718968531
idk can you fuckers stop obsessing over nigger cock in all forms of media?

SotN is better because simply having more shit for you to find in an exploratory format amounts to a better game when it comes to this genre

>>718968472
HoD is probably my least favorite Igavania but it takes an idea from SotN like the two castles and iterates on it by making it something you actively cycle between as opposed to clearing one and then the other, and I respect it for that. But I don't know what they were thinking by incorporating literal locked doors in a mold where your abilities are supposed to serve that purpose.

>>718968603
>Balance
>In a singleplayer adventure game
>Where everyone who currently plays it is assumed to know where every weapon and item is

SOTN Alucard's kit is much better than AOS's, with better bosses and level design. AOS has better weapon balance and greater variety, despite removing most of the inputs and the Soul system being just ROD/Inputs with extra steps.

>>718968678
Maybe you should take your own advice.

>>718968678
you're the one doing that by even remembering the shitty netflix show

>>718967983
I get that opinion, and I can even agree to an extent. Certainly the menuing is annoying and that's not even something they fixed by Dawn, instead band-aiding it by just letting you 'hot swap'. I like how spells work conceptually, and in general I'm a big proponent of players having tools from the very beginning and learning of them later on so that they can always be utilized by somebody who knows. And I do wish that, not unlike you said, if even it were just Guardian Souls running on an MP bar with Bullet Souls running off hearts, it would alleviate some of the tedium of having to pick or choose. I think that would be an ideal form of the system alongside some fabled quick-select or favorites tab of Souls you could switch between on command. Obviously, on a console with more buttons than just A/B/Start/Select, I'd like to imagine that would be the case (just ignore Dawn).
That said, I think it only works in Symphony because every spell is a Dracula spell. Now that goes a bit for souls as well but hear me out. Contextually, Soma has zero traits of Dracula at the beginning of the game and Alucard has been toiling around since CV3. It makes perfect sense that Alucard comes loaded with a bunch of spells he can fire off that not even Death can take from him at the beginning, while Soma only has whatever he can claw out from the enemies he encounters. From the story standpoint, the spells and souls both make sense in how they are handled and I appreciate how the function in tandem with the plot.

>>718968712
It's piss fucking easy even without broken weapons.

>>718968630
Trying too hard to appeal to kids and teens scared off by Ayami Kojima's beautiful artwork.

>>718968630
I am honestly not a fan of Castlevanias original artist but at least it had originality and soul. This artwork is Dragon Ball Super levels of basic. Also doesn't help that Soma and his acquaintances are nothing characters.

>>718968712
being singleplayer doesnt change anything, no challenge no fun, i steamrolled the game on the first playthrough with no prior knowledge, Alucards just gets too strong too fast and theres a bunch of busted moves.

>>718968876
Broken weapons are what makes it fun. The enemies and bosses aren't the threat. Alucard is.

DAWN has made improvements to soul design. Instead of most of them being bullet types or passive, they have made them all kinds of game abilities. There are even souls that use the touch screen.

>>718968895
If you don't like Ayami's art you can get off my fucking board.

>>718968972
cant see how, its fun to mess around just like using cheats, it gets old in 10 minutes.

>>718968630
The villains in this game sucked ass

>>718969014
Not that anon, but I love that she made Simon look like a gigachad again.

>>718969014
It all looks the same.

>>718965064 (OP)
why are they both gay looking

>>718969112
Shanoa sexo

>>718969078
they're ironically the easiest fights in the game

>>718969152
I don't know, anon. You tell me.

>>718968630
Dawn was ass. Even ignoring the awful artstyle and mandatory touch screen mini-game to kill the bosses. It was the weakest one of the DSvanias, imo.

>>718969331
> OOE
> good
no

>>718968630
It’s the best game in the entire series

>>718969418
Yes. And i won't pretend it isn't.

>>718967578
Who wins?

>>718969565
>Two swords
Gee I fucking wonder

>>718968472
HoD is literally a top 5 OST of all time. Its one of the few osts along with Kingdom Hearts where Ill still listen to the entire ost.

>>718969565
CastleeltsaC because AlucculA gets two swords AND twice the castle space.

>>718965064 (OP)
china made a romhack of aria of sorrow that makes it SOTN

>>718968885
>
Where's that Anon shitting on Ayme's art? He made me notice that Trevor has a voodoo tiny head and that Alucard can't hold his sword.

Alright boys, place yer bets.

New Castlevania announcement this year? I'm betting on the Nintendo General Direct in September, we have confirmation that Nintendo withheld 3 games from the partner showcase and I think Castlevania is one of them.

>>718965064 (OP)
Symphony's only top tier aspects are the music and visuals. Aria is a much better package, especially in regards to gameplay. Neither are really that difficult, but SotN's (lack of) difficulty is pathetic.

>>718969640
Thats funny you say that because a lot of people claim to hate the music in HoD.

>>718969802
I found aria easier, to be honest.
But maybe my opinion is colored by FUCKING galamoth.

I'm playing the Saturn version of SOTN for the first time and it's actually insane how much having to access the map from the menu ruins the fucking game

>>718965064 (OP)
>Dracula's son who his father is disspointed in because he's gay
Vs
>Literally Dracula
I think its pretty obvious.

>>718969871
yeah and theyre literal retards. i almost let myself get baited into thinking like them, sometimes you let yourself get swallowed up in social fervor, so i listened to the orchestral version or "clean" version or whatever of one of the big songs, and it was worse than the gba chiptune version or whatever its called.

you just need SPECIAL tastes to appreciate it.
I played the original game on my DS lite, so it must have sounded even better.

>>718969889
Plus the extra areas aren't worth the trouble of playing the Saturn version.

>>718969889
The Maria in this is pretty fun though, I have to admit

>>718970020
>Alucard is gay
>Dracula turned himself into a twink
Hmmmmm

>>718965064 (OP)
Aria by miles

>>718969871
This is one of my favorite tracks in the series.
https://youtu.be/qtAG611Z73c?si=nk009L2rtaW3BQg2

>>718970020
Being Dracula means shit. He always lost to the Belmonts, who are niggas on steroids (holy water) and a whip.

>>718969760
I want a julius belmont game

>>718970073
Never mind she sucks I was just tricked by the sick Vampire Killer remix

Both are phenomenal, but I personally prefer AoS to SotN. AoS generally has everything SotN has in terms of the variety of equipment, lite RPG mechanics, and mobility unlocks, but the soul system feels like it doubles the content in some ways. Every single enemy having a unique soul was phenomenal as a gimmick. Whether it was a general stat boost, a projectile, an entire unique form, or even changed the way you played entirely (health absorb, drop kicks, extreme speed dashing), it all made for such a unique experience.

Also, I'd argue AoS is much more tight overall. I adore SotN and the upside down/inverted castle, but a lot of the second half of the game feels poorly designed. Tons of areas in the inverted castle are fucking packed with enemies that feel copy pasted rather than properly thought through. A bunch of rooms are outright empty or missing any real reason to explore it as well. Also, since you mostly have all of your mobility tools by that point, you can sometimes feel a bit mindless in how you go through areas since nothing's stopping you or asking you to find some alternative path since you're missing an ability.

SotN generally looks way better, has better music, puzzles, and way more content all around. But I often come away feeling a bit tired by the time I'm done replaying it, whereas AoS always feels like it ends right when I'm satisfied. It's overall way more of a tight experience comparatively.

>>718970148
Except Soma who had become Dracula at that point kicked the only living Belmont's ass.

>Hey Douglas did I ever tell you I was employed by Dracula a few years back?

https://youtu.be/cDy4yFmrxNA?si=TU_QG2gFqqsYs9Sb

>>718965064 (OP)
As games? Aria, but SotN has better presentation and music.
As characters? Soma if he's full Dracula power, otherwise Alucard

>>718965143
>right guy didn't let jamal buck break him
For now.

>>718965064 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGNeFrnhlvw
READ (listen) DRACULA.

>>718965143
Not canon.
>>718965281
This nigga gets it.
>>718965682
Not canon.

Why has no other game done the soul collection system this way?

>>718975437
i bet laziness, bunch of metroidvanias can sell with less, after dork souls just need rolling and parry.

>>718968472
>Also HoD > AoS
Not even in your wildest dreams, Nigger.
HoD is an awful game, the castle layout is terrible and is basically hallways with enemies that all die in one hit, tons of bosses that are all forgettable (except the flesh monter thing), and awful progression where your skills are glorified keys that you only use to open up the path to the next zone. And the castle is filled zones that have gates after gates so even exploring and progression feels awful.
CotM is better than the piece of shit of HoD AND it also has the better ost. Awaken alone mogs everything that shit chiptune of HoD produces.

>>718975437
I haven't played it but i thought Bloodstained had a similar system?

>>718969167
Albus...

>>718965064 (OP)
SotN both the game and the character.

>>718965064 (OP)
Aria Of Sorrow and it's really not close

>>718965064 (OP)
what makes Aria better than Dawn

>>718966034
Ain't canon.

>>718969629
ainavvania is clearly a powerful cyclopian sorcerer and his coat is way cooler

>>718965281
FUCK NO
Map is shit, no noteworthy rooms besides shit like rabbit, panther and tsuchinoko's. No fun finds besides whipsword, solais and scythe. No challenge rooms and the clock tower was easy af to travel.
Enemies were boring af, most with an attack animation at most, more recolors, many might as well be static images. Nothing interesting to fight or find.
2 good boss fights (Julius and death), one ok (headhunter), rest shit.
Equipment system was a massive downgrade, weapon wise you get over head! But besides that everything losses all identity besides stats. No special attack, no unique weapons besides the guns, no special attributes or passive besides simple stat boost. No reason to ever use anything but the highest attack of a swing class.
Same with armors, literally just stat+ and jack shit else.
And you have nothing besides 1 accessory slot to spice things up.

What you get in exchange? Bullet souls with many repeats (DOS fixes this), stat up +1,+2,+3. Only guardian souls have anything interesting to offer.

Every castlevania after was significantly better

>>718968472
is is pure nastalgia bias

>>718965064 (OP)
Why did Alucard pretend to be someone else in AoS and DoS again? He barely did anything in both games.

>>718981802
By the time of AoS, Alucard has spent a lifetime as Genya. Alucard is probably a distant memory - like a nickname he had in gradeschool

>>718970345
Julius held back though

>>718982001
He's keeping his identity a secret. One of the characters accidentally partially says his name before stopping themselves.

>>718969760
It will be sotn remake, if they haven't cancelled it

>>718965281
I like classicvanias too but AoS is the best game in the franchise, and one of the best games of all time. It's rare that a franchise so consistently good still managed to peak so late.

>>718967156
Aria has the Succubus and Lilith hot tub room with the rubber ducky, the room with a bunch of Ripper enemies hiding in a box, the room with a random Killer Fish lying on the floor, etc. Also lots of humorous interactions, such as making the Red Minotaurs drop their axe.

SotN is by no means the only Igavania with these sorts of quirky details. Aria of Sorrow and every DSvania has tons of these.

>>718965064 (OP)
Soma is cooler in my opinion. Alucard is just much more limited compared to him because being able to copy monster abilities provides so many different options.

>>718965281
I recently played Aria of sorrow after all the praise /v/ gives it and I wasn't blown away by it. It is no better or worse than SoTN. I didn't even bother to get the true ending.

>>718982001
I see you didn't play DoS's Julius Mode

>>718981802
He wanted to do yellowface

bump

>>718969871
It's grimy as hell but super good.