Thread 718967036

this mission filtered millions despite how easy it actually is.

>>718967036 (OP)
Filtered them hard. It's always the same-give players a stealth segment or make them use brain cells for five minutes and suddenly it's "bad game design." Half the people never even read the objective properly.

I always passed it on my first or second try. I never understood people having trouble with this mission.
The Demolition Man mission from Vice City still filters me though.

>>718967036 (OP)
I don't get it, I beat this mission when I was 8 years old. Now the supply lines mission is another story

Launch the Red Barron.

>>718967036 (OP)
This mission is the reason why a bunch of newer game developers decided to make their games easy enough that even retards can beat it btw

rc plane in vice city was much harder

>>718967036 (OP)

It was bugged. SMG kept hitting the side of the train all the time. That's what made it hard.

>>718967036 (OP)
For me it was the coffee stand mission in GTAIII. Never beat it as a kid.

>>718967036 (OP)
The flying school or Zero missions filtered more people, you can just jump on the train and kill the Vagos yourself.

>>718967403
Don't be so close to the train then, retard

all you have to do is follow the train

>>718967403
it wasn't, you just were too close to the train so big smoke couldn't hit the vagos, Big Smoke's aming is actually very accurate.

>>718967198
>>718967323
>>718967384
the controls for rc flying vehicules in these games suck, that's why those were hard.

>>718967036 (OP)
I feel like this mission got the reputation of a tough mission partly due to how badly the game runs during it on a PS2. On top of that you have the "soul fog" and you're probably playing the game on a shitty small CRT television. No wonder it's hard!

>>718967913
>soul fog
Wait. Is fog soul or anti-soul?

The trickiest missions are
>Espresso-2-Go (without the bulletproof Patriot)
>The Driver
>picrelated, just that objective

>>718967036 (OP)
The missions in GTA:SA aren't usually that difficult. The pain in the ass is how fucking far you have to go to retry them. It becomes especially awful once you're out in the southwest part of the map. There really should have been a quick retry option after failing a mission.

>>718968259
in this game in particular is soul, is mostly used to hide the short rendering distance, iirc only san fierro had actual full terrain covering fog.

I'm still disappointed they didn't go with the original Ryder story line.

this shit was so easy (and most of sa was like this). it has nothing on the literally (and i do mean literally, i.e. cannot be completed without cheats) impossible "Silencing the Sneak" of gta 3

>>718969362
>Silencing the Sneak
>impossible without cheats
holy shit are you retarded?

>>718967036 (OP)
That's a cake walk compared to this mission
https://youtu.be/QjZRqrrZl_w?si=4_duwHYu69cIwg-2

>>718967036 (OP)
there's literally nothing hard about this mission, it just got memed so hard by internet faggots that retards now genuinely think it was an actual hard mission when in reality it wasn't.

>>718967323
Recently replayed GTA SA on PC and I'm fully convinced that the RC plane missions are literally impossible to beat on a keyboard

Of course when I think of a gangster crime game I think of flying RC planes, fucking with dogshit controls and having to pass some retarded flying tests.

What the fuck was Rockstar thinking? GTA IV was the first game to just strip out all this dogshit and it's one of the most critically acclaimed videogames of all time per Metacritic.

>>718970621
This mission is easy as fuck once your realize you can just coast and it won't use fuel.

Played all the games except gta1+2+mobile
This mission is the hardest in the series.

Didn't play definitive edition so maybe they "fixed" it.

>>718967036 (OP)
Most people passed this in a couple of tries. Now, Supply Lines on the original PS2 day one release? That shit was impossible.

>>718970797
This.

>>718972541
Jesus, the Definitive Edition looks so fucking ugly.

>>718971708
Not the case in the original console release

>>718972541
is not that hard either to be honest, just scout and find all the drug stands BUT do not destroy them so the timer doesn't start, when you are ready you can go after all of them easily now that they are on the map.

>>718967036 (OP)
Was the difficulty really due to the fact that we were 5th graders. Surely the age demographic was not struggling as much.

>>718972541
>>718972956
>>718972987
I don't understand why they even bothered. They'd have made more money with no controversy if they just did basic engine updates to the games to ensure they ran smoothly on modern consoles and then released them in a pack.

I failed a couple times but then near the end used the dirt track and fell on top. Still failed but then knowing I could get me and Smoke on there with the Vagos had me look around. I found a ramp close to the start and used that to get on top. Made short work of them then.

>>718967323
I caught on fairly quickly that just landing and shooting the couriers from behind made things a lot easier, but those were still a painful first few attempts.

>>718967036 (OP)
Im replaying RDR2 and it still got the same mission flaw from 20 years ago

>ppl think you gotta push to the goal to complete the mission
>but in reality the game expects you to tag along for 5 min until the scripted movie part is over and you get to finally finish it

>>718973547
>whoopsies the script didn't account for the NPC ragdolling midfight and now they won't move to the triggerzone

>>718972541
>redeemed edition
Grim

>>718967036 (OP)
>Big Smoke shoots the side of the train if you get too close
>Oncoming train blocks Smoke's shots
>Vago that falls off the side is invulnerable until he climbs back up
>train speeds up for some reason
>another fucking oncoming train forces you on the dirt path
>Smoke shooting the ground
Fuck off. It was hard as kid.

>>718976107
>follow alongside train without being smack next to it
>win
Wow so hard.

>>718967036 (OP)
so true, took me a few tries to realize why smoke wasn't hitting them but once I found a sweetspot, ez

>>718967036 (OP)
It's moderately difficult, Learning to Fly and the plane hijack mission were a hundred times harder for me.

>>718973312
>he used a guide
neat

>>718967036 (OP)
Fuck you the driving sucks
If this mission was in gta4 it would be the best in the franchise

>>718967036 (OP)
When I recently revisited it: the mission was indeed way too easy, hell even the stupid lowrider challenge mission is harder than it. GTA Vice City mission 18 on the other hand holds up as being some bullshit. You know the save Lance Vance from the junkyard mission? that will forever remain unmatched. On the other hand I think the remote controlled toy helicopters and plane missions can also be frustrating in both games. But that's more of a flip coin result, sometimes easy and sometimes hard. The controls are just finicky. Death Row is the most bullshit GTA mission ever designed and I would not even think of attempting such a mission without a helicopter parked outside Malibu Club before starting it.

>>718967036 (OP)
This mission was never hard, it never filtered anyone, the reason it's remembered is because it is one of the few missions with a fail dialog, most missions only have the "mission failed" plastered over the screen.

>>718967036 (OP)
that's because you are supposed to keep some distance from the train so big smoke can hit them but most people would stay too close wnd the shots would hit the side of the train.

>>718977550
CJ, always knew u was a busta

>>718973359
>I don't understand why they even bothered.
Hubris.

>>718977516
>save Lance Vance from the junkyard mission
remember having a hard time with it. had a hard time on the final mission too. it might have been the mods i was using, but the lock-on targeting fucking up made shit near impossible

>>718977865
>but the lock-on targeting fucking up made shit near impossi
I use free aim when possible. So last mission wasn't all that hard for me. It's only Death Row I've recognised as the most inconsistent difficulty mission in the game. If I had used lock on targeting then it would not have been fast enough to kill all the Haitians in the mission Naval Engagement. That mission is a hell a lot of easier if you just free aim it.

>>718970310
i think i threw 60 grenades before electing to spawn a tank and stand on that instead. admittedly this was on the pc port which may very well be janky and broken

>>718967036 (OP)
i dunno if it's a version difference modded pc pirate disc, but the dudes on top of the train have way too much health compared to generic open world goons
clearly recall cheating in a jetpack right at the beginning of the mission, and how all those bastards took multiple sawed-off shotgun shells before finally dying

>>718967036 (OP)
It's a meme not actually difficult.

>>718967036 (OP)
It would've been easier if Smoke was driving and had you do the shooting.

>>718968458
Freefall was my most hated mission; the fucking trip to the plane felt eternal, only to miss the fucking ring.

>>718967331
Dogshit arbitrary controls and aiming turned the skin color of newer developers house nigger black?

>>718967036 (OP)
It's easy when you know what to do. Knowing what to do the first time is not intuitive. You're not special for figuring it out after a few tries.

>>718968552
agree with this
its extremely stressful at the end knowing you will have to start all over again + the travel and then when you do fuck up its easy to just stop caring and fuck around instead

>>718967036 (OP)
This game had so many ports and releases with bug and mission fixes that you honestly can't say any of the missions were hard or easy until you state what version of the game you played.