Thread 718987172

Lmao saving this as my response image. Being compared to Ubisoft is worse than being compared to Hitler these days.

I hate to admit it, but Ubisoft is right. Knowing player numbers does nothing good, other people wlil see the game is "dead" and not buy it (even though it's a single player game so how many other people are playing it doesn't affect you)

>>718987172 (OP)
AC bros won

>>718987279
It's another tool to gauge the quality of a game since online reviews are increasingly worthless.

>>718987279
>less information for consumers is good, goy

>>718987279
I bet you argue against exact ping numbers being shown because everyone shits on you for lagging.

>>718987227
>>718987279
This article is 9 months old so don't hold your breath mateys

>>718987365
In most cases, marketing impacts game sales more than quality. Flops like Concord and Star Wars Outlaw are the rare exception.

>>718987376
Most people are unable of critical thinking. They see "big number = game good" and "small number = game bad".

>>718987172 (OP)
I think Ubisoft should ban intellect instead, not like Ubisoft players have any regardless, like this one >>718987279, AND no one will even understand player numbers whatsoever!

Now that will be very based move by UBIBASED!

>Companies regulary get embarrassed by getting completely dumpstered by tf2 and counterstrike on steam
>REEEE STEAM PLAYER COUNTS ARE FAKE FAAAAAAKE THEY'RE NOT REAL!!!!!
>China starts and the rest of the western industry starts botting their shit on Steam to the point that there's a cartoonishly disproportionate ratio of actual organic interest to purported player counts
>AIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE NOOOOOO WE NEED STEAM PLAYER CHART THREADS WE NEEEEED THEM LOOK AT HOW TOTALLY POPULAR GAME TOTALLY REALLY IS!!!! HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLY LIVE WITHOUT 35 THREADS A DAY COMPLETELY UNABLE TO DISCUSS TOTALLY POPULAR GAMES OUTSIDE OF DECLARING THEM TO DEFINITELY BE POPULAR

>>718987279
Get fucked faggot.
Steam realistically needs to track sales of games as well. We could easily measure the quality of a singleplayer game then.

>>718987593
last thing a twinkie sees before it's eradicated by the sheboon

>>718987172 (OP)
Tricking investors is starting to get harder huh

>>718987279
Knowing player data gets rid of marketing shills and there is a reason Blizzard never took wow to steam back in the day as it would kill Blizzards arguments outright. Companies thrive off of "Just believe me bro" and let their shills do the heavy lifting to convince you their games are successful. Steam is a direct attack on those people since we have hard data and can make up our own minds about a product.

>>718987807
Notice this anon will crumble into a pile of gibberish if you ask him why an unpopular game would be botted.

>>718987279
>the player knowing that the multiplayer game they're buying has no players or awful retention rates is bad

Fuck off marketing shill.

>>718987172 (OP)
>posts a twitter screencap thread

>>718987172 (OP)
Honestly surprised more publishers don't band together to pressure steam to remove player numbers. Steam wouldn't fight back much it's not like they care either way.

>>718988000
Maybe you should proof read your shit before you post it you moron.

>>718988254
And this shit is why AI is worthless.

>>718988291
It's clearly better than you if it understood that sentence.

>>718987840
>big numbers mean game good

>>718987501
>and we should cater for those people
I wonder who would have such an opinion

>>718988067
they easily could as seen with the master card shit

>>718987318
nice try bot saar

>>718987279
I love to admit it, I fucked your mom last night

the amount of tracking and info shown on Steam's site is fine

Steam Charts is cancer

>>718987318
How many caveats is this headline hinged on?

>>718988330
Hey, maybe you could try asking it why that post would make you look like a complete moron considering you don't get that.

>>718988361
Yes? For multiplayer games it's not essential but a good indicator of health

>>718987172 (OP)
Ubisoft is a shit company and I am glad the kind of trash they produce is finally not profitable anymore.
Steam chart zoomies are retarded, obnoxious faggots who contribute absolutely nothing to any discussion.
Two things can be true at the same time.

>>718987501
>marketing matters more than game quality
Yeah you may be right, that would explain Dragon's Dogma 2 and Monster Hunter: Wilds. Both garbage, sold 10m+ each.

>>718988473
if you only care about the game being "alive", sure, it's absolutely not a quality indicator.

>>718988473
a game being dead can be an indicator of it's quality but it isn't the only reason, there are a multitude of reasons for why a multiplayer game would be dead and quality doesn't have to be any of those reasons.

>>718987279
Nice try journalist

huh

>>718987279
Eat shit.

>>718987279
t. jew

>>718987172 (OP)
>get embarrassed by reviews
>pay for good reviews
>get embarrassed by metacritic
>pay for more reviews
>get embarrassed by stream numbers
>pay for sponsored streams
>get embarrassed by steam reviews
>call gamers bad and -phobic
>get embarrassed by steam numbers
>ask for them to be removed
How about just making good games?

>>718987172 (OP)
Beatings will continue until morale improves

>>718989554
All their open world games have been mediocre slop. The Division games were the only decent ones that felt like something unique.

OOF

Starfield chads outlived 99% of the games released in the past 2 years.

>>718988451
>Immediately stops replying and goes back to HA HA LE STEAM CHARTS GOOD AM I RAIGHT /vee/?

>>718989735
Slopfield fucking DIED lmao

slopped so hard even the community bug fixers dropped it

>>718989757
That's cause I proved you wrong with a several paragraphs of a generic dumb AI able to discipher my post with ease, but you're still doubling down. So why should I bother?

>>718989807
Even in that picture you posted Starfield is outdoing most of that list. Starfield is what happens when you make a game full of passion and soul instead of generic slop.

>>718989747
oh man that delicious seethe

monke game permanently brainraped and buckbroke the westacuck journos

>>718989880
stop the cap

>>718987172 (OP)
>>718987279
player count is more reliable than reviews

>>718988436
4 or 5, unironically.

>>718987279
For online games it's actually VERY important to show player numbers for players who might be buying the game some time after release

Buying an online-only game only to find that it's completely dead is a waste of money, and consumers deserve better than that, especially if companies are going to charge £80+ for games

>>718989865
I get you're retarded, but go ahead, and ask the totally smartzors AI why your post is stupid. I'm sure it'll get it mostly wrong but get what's obviously wrong with your post relayed to you.
Free tip: It has nothing to do with formatting or grammar and is really fucking obvious if you even think about the post for more than 2 seconds.

I love seeing slop devs seethe

motivates me

>>718989942
Hilariously reviews in this case are more reliable because even dumb people can realize why they're fucked.

>>718987172 (OP)
>>718987279
>Delete this..... before I have you Minecrafted

Make games that appeal to people without woke in it and it sells. It's just that simple.

>>718990018
Nah. Not gonna bother. Just gonna keep on assuming.

>>718990143
DEI is part of the corporate structure now, regardless of what new name they call it/
Western devs can not make unpozzed games.

>>718990210
Let me guess, you did, you realized, and now you think if you just act smug you will totally have not made yourself look like a complete fucking retard.

>>718987279
>other people wlil see the game is "dead" and not buy it
Where are the downsides though?

>>718987807
>China starts
Starts what you retarded amerijew nigger? Still raped over the fact that Chinese playerbase is the biggest on the planet for any given popular game? Get fucked on tranq to cope with the fact that there's a billion of them and they'll keep buying their own games.

>>718990083
I remember Chet Faliszek seething about people looking up steam charts because nobody played his wokeslop co-op game, had a blast reading it.

>>718990321
Yes, I'm coping, not the retard desperately screaming for me to affirm that their garbage is totally really popular.
>Got so mad about china being shat on you went completely blind to this being an international issue now

>>718990321
>3x the population
>3x the gamers
math is hard for mutts, please understand

>>718988574
>you only care about
Disingenuous
>>718988728
OK?

>>718990083
updated with today's numbers

>>718990442
keep getting raped journojeet

>>718987172 (OP)
How does Ubisoft have any power to pressure steam?
>w-we'll just make our own store (again lmao) and you're gonna lose so much m-money!!

>>718990583
>YOU NO SAY CHINA BAD YOU RIKE GAME JORNORIST FIRTHY AMERICAN
Cope

>>718987318
>Europe
LOL

when ubisoft finally dies they will stop paying all those jeets to shit up /v/
genuinely can't wait

>>718987279
Haha niggerfaggot rekt

>>718990656
keep squirming babeljeet

the steamchart rapings will continue until ethics in gaming journalism improves

>>718990583
>tweet screenshot prevention

>single player game sells millions and then has a drop off in players
>AH ITS A FLOP NO LEGS

Steam chart threads are retarded something can succeed and still be called a failure. Not saying these games succeeded but people twist the data too much

>>718990736
Use some of that alleged world famous Chinese IQ, why would someone who's sick of the steam charts botting start entertaining last year's astroturfing of terrible Ubisoft games much less approve of it?
>inb4 still too fucking buttblasted to read this post

>>718990852
your mum's botted lol

>>718990736
Community Notes is the only Elon did well, ngl.
Cuts across everyone.

>>718990582
If you already got your development costs sorted through DEI funding, it's a "commercial success".

>>718990883
>200k sold on pc
not bad, it was just recycled infinite wealth

Japanese games are better budgeted so they don't need to sell a gorillion copies just to break even and prevent studio closures like western slop

>>718991021
>Japanese games are better budgeted so they don't need to sell a gorillion copies just to break even and prevent studio closures like western slop
KEK

>>718988574
>if you only care about the game being "alive"
For a MP game yeah

>>718991046
well capcom is a special case of retards

square is also increasingly incompetent

>>718989554
too hard

>>718991182
Honestly I would think it'd be easier to just make a good game than engaging in the trillion dollar astroturfing industry.

>>718987279
>the less the consumer knows, the better

>>718987279
Is this you?

>>718990736
This cope is extra confusing because we're supposed to think chink gamers are worth less than western ones? What's the subtext here that makes the tweet not-racist? Chinks are botting? Sales don't actually matter vs message? What is it?

>>718987172 (OP)
That game could've so easily been massive if they just let you make your own OC mass effect style

>>718991230
despite what people want you to believe, money's not actually scarce, but talent and dedication are

>>718991287
/v/ is pretending to care about chinese now?

>>718991230
Marketing (buying journals and pajeet bots) is easier than making good games.

>>718991296
lost ancient technology

I never quite understood the sentiment considering it's not like /v/ gives props to fucking CSGO or Dota 2 which have a "healthy" fanbase of third worlders

>>718987279
Not a single normal person checks playercount when they want to buy a game unless it's a multiplayer game AND it has very low review count (meaning potentially low players you can play against).

>>718991362
Can't help but notice you left out botting the steam charts there.

>>718991336
You're pretending to care about games now?

>>718991240
>that pic
>propaganda needs to be funded by the government
Isn't that already the case?
>the fukken chudders killed the game because they didn't fukken sweat and work to pay to play propaganda vomit
>so truu xister, so tru tru! we need to start taxing people to fund horseshit like concord and give people other people's money to play horseshit video games otherwise the free market wins and we can't force them to pay up to be propagandized

>>718991427
that goes under bots

>>718991240
>government pays me to call people nigger on comms
I'm in. Bernie 2028 (*echo* 2024*)((*echo* 2020)(((*echo* 2016)))((((*echo* 2008))))...

Its probably a good idea to hide the player numbers if you look at how people in general abuse the player numbers even if they're neat to see for yourself

I dont need to see a journo who grew up on 4chan make another article with headline of "x game lost 99% of its playerbase in 5 seconds after the servers crashed"

>>718991287
>What's the subtext here that makes the tweet not-racist?
There's no subtext. That's it. Liberals are racist against Asians and their media in general.
They now fall back on established hatred of the Chinese among their countrymen to pass off their seethe. With their seethe against Japanese media they met some pushback but they think they can get away with it by redirecting to the Chinese now. Since China is a bigger enemy (harder to infiltrate and bigger more independent market userbase).

They're quick to forget: Enemy of westajournos are my besties.

>>718991463
I guess, I more consider "pajeet bots" to be the astroturfing forums and boards type, like what people are desperately trying to assert are the only kind that exist itt.

>>718989747
>>718989898
Wasn't that guy defending that monkey game in the article though? By saying a 2 million drop in players doesn't matter for a singleplayer game. Only "live service-pilled" people care about that.

>>718991336
China likes the same groups as me and they gave me Volcano Princess.

Consider my loyalty bought. Glory to the CCP.

>>718991664
Covering his ass with small letters that nobody reads while setting up a narrative with big headline letters.

New to slimy journo tricks senpai?

I doubt anyone here reads any of the screenshotted articles posted in this thread. This thread is just a ragebait circlejerk.

Is this on?

>>718991770
The headline is to bait you though. Why even bother posting them?

>>718987279
I agree, they should also remove reviews, people might see others disliking it and not buy, but each player has their own experiences and shouldn't use reviews to judge the game before playing it.

>>718991875
Yes, I also love Epic Games Store~!!

>>718991336
1 billion of them and they all keep buying stuff that I want to succeed and what western journocucks keep smearing in desperate attempts to sabotage

I care
I care immensely

>>718991931
Is this headline smearing them?

>>718987279
I trust community reviews than the shit you try to spin to sell it. Also very obvious which ones are fake opinions and others good ones. Although with ChatGPT screening all of these reviews the age of that source of opinions will probably dry up.

>>718991963
that one is seething when raped by reality

smear is when they keep accusing wukong and stella blade devs of murdering women in their free time

do you think your damage control and shame aren't obvious senpai?

>retarded articles
>twitter screencaps
>steamcharts sperging
>chinese whining

>>718992080
>So angry you're lashing out at people asking for clarification

>>718992148
>h-hehe I'm j-just askin innoce-
Again, you're see-through

>>718987172 (OP)
Ubisoft knows its sharteholders are about to sue the everloving fuck out of the company for witholding financial information and statistics from them and being very vague in general
>how many people bought AC shadows?
A FUCK TON OF PLAYERS TRUST US
>ok but the sales?
TRUST ME THEY ARE GOOD BEST SELLING GAME OF 2025
>but if thats true how come its lagging behind every other title in the series
WE HAVE EXTREMELY HIGH PLAYER RETENTION NUMBERS GOING ON
>Listen i aint buying this shit, these charts clearly show it isnt selling
STEAM YOU FUCKING CHUDS STOP REPORTING NOW
>what was the budget for this shitshow
WHO CARES ITS A SUCCESS

>>718992123
whining eh?

>>718987279
>Withold valuable information from customer to ensure uninformed, bad purchases
Bait

>>718987807
>10 billion chinks exist
>chinks make chink game
>10 billion chinks play chink game because it is made by chink
>greatest conspiracy

>>718987279
This, how can we control the narrative if anyone can just look up a graph that disproves it?

>>718992249
This

>>718990083
how hard do you think they where seething when MS anounced a last minute port of Forza Horizon 5 for PS5

>>718992312
So is this just what all the replies to my post are going to be?
Chinks getting so overwhelmed with blind rage that they can't actually read it?

>>718992312
They also play cute Korean games, God bless them

>>718992080
>they keep accusing wukong and stella blade devs of murdering women in their free time
kek link?

>Ubishit pressuring megacorp Valve

LOOOL

>>718987172 (OP)
Thank god

>>718992264
What the fuck is this image even? At least make it readable.

>>718992390
You got raped so hard you pulled "botting" cope out of your bleeding rectum

>>718992350
gold

>>718992410
None exist yet but if you have a burner at a reputable gaming website you could fix that

>>718992427
>came crawling back to Steam after their own shitty launcher failed and all of their games flopped
>then starts making demands
lol
lmao even

>>718987279

>review says game is fucking amazing
>4 million sold!
>392 people playing...


Yeah, no. The only fucking thing that matters is how many people are playing a few days/weeks later. If nobody is playing, it's not a fun game. Period. Purchases mean nothing. Everybody has bought something and barely played it because it sucked.

Ok we'll hide player numbers but every new game comes with a mandatory free demo or a shareware episode.

>>718992471
Because right now, there's definitely nothing wrong with the Steam Hardware Survey, and nobody would EVER intentionally insert faulty data into something intended to inform people.
Especially not these days and DEFINITELY not just the chinks who are the only people you're mad about me identifying as doing this crap despite this being an international industry level problem now.

>>718992249
These retarded shareholders deserve to lose money.

I still don't get why 4tranners care so much about how many people are playing a game.

As a /lit/ tourist, it's charming to see /v/ discover the shenanigans that publishers have been running forever in the ink and paper business

>>718992607
So you're saying everything which is not front page popular on steam right now is shit and completely unplayable?

>trailer gets a million dislikes
>lol our game will still sell lol
>it doesn't
>WTF WHY
Companies should not be able to get away with retardation for long periods of time.

>>718987279
Why did this post cause so much seething?

>>718992821
>chinks who are the only people you're mad about me identifying
>I'm so badass the entire CCP is on my ass for uncovering this conspiracy theory I cracked the code I'm a wanted man
Delusion of grandeur. You provided zero proof other than a shit mixed bloody trail you left on the floor while dragging your raped mutt ass across it.

>>718990547
damn bruh this is evergreen content for dabbing on retards

>>718992607
Astlibra Revision is one of the best games on Steam and it has 600 players

>>718992912

No, anon. You have to use some actual brain. I'm talking about huge triple A titles with large numbers of purchases. Shit that gets shilled. If it sold 5 million and you got a few thousand playing a single player game a day or two later, most probably dropped it quickly. Especially if player count drops rapidly over the few days. I don't buy one and done 8 hour games, so I'm applying this to longer, replayable games I play.

>>718987227
I agree

>>718993056
Maybe if you could control yourself for five seconds and weren't filled with blind chinese rage you'd not scream your silly chinese head off about a problem that knows no homeland.

>>718992959
fruit nigga

>>718993083
>t. guy who only played Astlibra Revision in his life

>>718993095
I'm using your words.
Any game that's not played by everyone right now is shit.

>>718993184

My words also contained "4 million sold" which alluded to a new release. Okay, if anything I wasn't clear. Stop being a woman about it.

im so tired of subhumans talking about shit they have no clue about

>>718993234
So you're saying only new games have ever sold 4 million copies?

Steam numbers don't mean much. A game might be doing shit on steam but that doesn't mean it's not booming on console. Let's not also forget that steam isn't the only place to get games on PC.
You'd have to have a site that shows player activity on all the consoles and all the game sites for PC to get an accurate picture of a games health.
And, we're not ever getting that, ever.
Either way fuck Ubishit.

>>718987279
When the game is multiplayer, it's good. Because it's a way to gauge whether the multiplayer stuff is even usable.

>>718987172 (OP)
You know... if you give players the ability to create their own MC rather than playing that bitch, that Star Cucks game will probably be salvageable. Especially for lib mutts who love to self insert.

>>718993295
mad dev wwww

>>718988254
Good evening saars. Do not redeem.

>>718993083
To be fair, if you're Japanese there's really no reason to buy the Steam release when there's a perfectly serviceable freeware version available.
The emptiness after finishing it three days ago still hasn't gone away...

>>718987172 (OP)
>>ban steamchart threads
this but unironically

>>718993320
The only games that boom on consoles are sportsball games. That's really it. If FIFA is not doing great Steam numbers, then I'd be open to the argument that Steam is not capturing the actual player base. But that's not true of MMOs, FPSs, RPGs, RTSs, or anything else, really.

>>718993492
The funny thing is it's legitimately a three way
>He's too stupid to realize why his post was retarded
>He asked the AI to explain to him why his post was retarded and got mad that it explained it
>He's legitimately so retarded he thought it was only a grammar problem because the AI said it was.

>>718993607
anon please help me I want to shill ubisoft games for money too can you introduce me to your boss or someone who employs you

>>718987318
Shadows really is the Ass that keeps on shitting

>>718987279
We wouldn’t need it if they didn’t keep fucking lying and obfuscating.
Shit like this
>>718987318
Gets hard countered by the actual numbers and makes people realise the hoops they’re jumping through.

>>718994024
why don't they just make Asscreed in bantu Africa?

>>718994120
Yeah but you're diverting away from the issue that people are tired of seeing the same Steamsharts botting threads about games that are totally popular, and your aren't vanquishing the evil of dishonest game journalists which nobody has take seriously for 11 years now, not even the industry, since they've mostly moved to youtuber ghouls to scam people into buying crap.

>>718994120
>We wouldn’t need it if they didn’t keep fucking lying and obfuscating.
There has never been a time in your entire life where knowing play counts meant anything more than you going on 4chan and shitposting. Not one time.

>>718994160
It's a seriously good question. How come videogames don't have Afro-centric stories, if they want to have black protags? What's the equivalent of Western fairy tales and epics in Africa? A little searching will tell you why they don't do that.

>>718994221
Shut the fuck up you useful retard.
Keep slurping ubicock because of china, even though the chinks have ubisoft on a leash too.

Mm yes, player count is all that matters unless it makes us look bad and then suddenly it doesn't matter.

/v/ lost btw

>>718992537
So they haven't smeared?

>>718988254
>muh """ai""" said that...

>>718987279
>you should be allowed to hide information from consumers if that information will influence their purchase
You're a loser.

>>718994160
Because that would be racist

>>718993890
They might take you. Retards probably fill the DEI quota.

>>718987279
Fuck off.

>>718987501
>we need to protect the games industry consumers from themselves
ok stalin

>>718987807
the chinabots did NOT like this post

>>718994385
It's not being a useful idiot to have the same standard that we shouldn't be having threads about games astroturfing their player count regardless of whom wants to use what format for marketing, be it steam charts or paying journos to print bunk numbers.

>>718987279
If you're retarded enough to care about number of players in a single player game I don't know what to tell you

>noooo don't look at the numbers!
>just buy new AAAslop, don't look at the charts!
>JUST CONSOOOOOM!
lmao no
i will not buy any AAA games and even if i want to play any, i'll just pirate them
stay mad bitches

>>718987172 (OP)
>keep steam player counts
>ban playercount threads (Except for games released in the last 3 days because laughing at massive flops/sudden successes is funny)
Metrics are important, but faggots jerking off numbers non-stop that a singleplayer game has a normal amount of players for a game that had 8+ months pass since release because its not the gazzillion it had on launch should just fucking die
Simple as.

People that make those threads unironically think Banana is a great game.

>>718997393
it’s another tool to gauge the quality of a game saar please understand

>>718997393
Pretty hilariously Banana outlines a ton of issues wrong with Steamshart faggotry
>The entire game is people botting for economy items including devs
>The devs are fraudsters who've previously gotten fucked for Steam Market manipulation before
>They've paid for ad space for gaming journo rags to astroturf the "popularity" of the game
All this and the most damning thing of all
>Even assuming all of this is totally above board (It's not) literally nobody having this conversation knows you can run multiple Steam Games on the same device.

>>718997393
>ape has to bring up free to play meme to cope with the fact that AAA slop barely gets 10k
grim

>>718991589
These people have been ruining everything good for decades now.

>>718987279
Nah, that's a cope.

>>718987279
>they reject him because he told them the truth

>>719000014
We reject this because it is wrong, satan.

>>718987279
showing voting % is also very problematic. just say who won :)

>>718987279
The next thing they want removed is Steam reviews. The less signals about game quality the better.

>>718987172 (OP)
Yes. Ban them unironically.
Numberfaggotry is cancer. Start playing games.

>>719000915
how much rupees did you get for this post?

>>718998112
Nobody wants to proof which game is bad or good but anons constantly make threads about games only focusing about player numbers and nothing else.

>>718987279
Agreed, /v/ has a retarded reliance on this flawed metric, never factoring in console player numbers.

>>718987318
"Beating Mario Kart World"

>>718990474
yeah but not everyone in China is a gamer retard

>>718987436
I bet he argues against IP count because it would show everyone who comes here how many shills actually shit up this board.

>>718987172 (OP)
Hitler said you should drink water.

Kek, these are the people who hate Steam charts.

>>719003183
And I do every day

>>718987279
You really need to be braindead to let that influence you buying a game or not. Why would you prefer player count over price, gameplay videos, reviews/recommendation, genre that you like, developer that previously made games that you like.

>>719006189
number big = game good