Thread 718993256

>Comes out tomorrow
Your thoughts

No it's still like 3 more days. The base cast is nice, but I wish the animations were better, and the UI wasn't as fucking ugly as it was. The DLC cast is also pretty mediocre.

>>718993256 (OP)
>new Super Robot Wars
what
>eng release
the hell

okay, you have my attention

>>718993256 (OP)
I have no hype. I'll play it anyway if a Switch file pops up.

>>718993256 (OP)
I am still burned out from 30.

>>718993256 (OP)
W on it kinda epic

more like super robot wars Y the fuck would you play this trash

>>718993256 (OP)
I have lost Passion for SRW, honestly.
The games get easier and easier, less and less series I actually enjoy with the older ones I like not getting new content cause VAs are dead/too old(that would be a case for A.I) and I feel even the original writing/characters or ways they intersect series have taken a nosedive.
Last time I was invested was with OG 2nd and with the early Yamato run of V.

Even when they have some nice ideas and oddball series (like Fujinmaru in X and corpo heroes from T with Veteran Kouji/Ryoma/Amuro), it feels harder to go through the slog

>>718993256 (OP)
gridman needs a new anime

my thoughts on Super Robot Wars are "this is a mediocre series and I don't understand why people like it". I played OG1 for the GBA, beat it, liked it despite everything. I tired playing one of the translated games for the PS1 more than a decade ago and got immensely put off by seeing Zeta Gundam characters interacting with characters from other series and having the game start from what it felt like the middle point of whatever story it was trying to tell
I also don't particularly care for the fancy attack animations. maybe SRW just isn't for me, and I say this as someone that likes mecha anime and mecha in general

>>718995039
>All the interesting series comes next SRW
Give me Bravern, Code Geass Roze, Grendizer U

>>718993256 (OP)
Bump for interest.

Denuvo-slop, and i bought 30 for some reason.

>>718993256 (OP)
I think the devs should be embarrassed with how far the quality has degraded.

>>718996794
>I tired playing one of the translated games for the PS1 more than a decade ago and got immensely put off by seeing Zeta Gundam characters interacting with characters from other series and having the game start from what it felt like the middle point of whatever story it was trying to tell
Well you would've played Alpha Gaiden which was a sequel to Alpha so that's on you.

>>718993256 (OP)
>3d
>denuvo

>>718999170
I blame it on retards translating the sequel before the first game in the series, and I also blame it on myself for having played that instead of playing whatever Armored Core was next on my backlog, I think it was Nexus

>>718993256 (OP)
Why the fuck the menus all look like a mobile game

I wish we could get a big singleplayer bionicles game where you go through the entire story.
That was legit what I thought when I saw your poast.

>>718993256 (OP)
Slop like the rest of the series. I know mecha fans are desperate to support the genre but at some point you have to realize SRW hasn't had anything going for it for ages.

Not going to kick this game while it's down, but I was confused as to why it wasn't under popular upcoming releases on Steam, then I looked up the "gameplay" and that explained everything

>>718993256 (OP)
I gave these games a lot of leniency before but 30 was the straw that broke the camel's back. They've had over 8 years to get the nu-SRW formula down so I don't know why the games keep getting (and looking) worse.

>>718993256 (OP)
Looks like shit, and I'm mad about Da Garn being DLC. Not buying, at least not until it's like 70% off a few years from now
And I liked 30

>>718993256 (OP)
I'm not ashamed to admit that I've bought it primarily because of W.

>>718999442
Yeah, I'm there. I bought VXT30 and the DLC for them but I'm tired. I can't keep supporting the same game repeatedly when I thought the same game was mid. Slapping multipliers onto it doesn't help, objectives and map design are the lifeblood of good SRPG gameplay, not fighting stat walls.

>>719000586
Kamen Rider being in would've been cool if it wasn't immediately dragged down by the shitty CGI models.

>>718993256 (OP)
Eh there are like 3 interesting picks in the base game, the rest are standard filler or not interesting to me.

>>719001973
Yeah, it's like they saved all the cool stuff for the DLC. It just feels scummy

>>718999170
Alpha is still untranslated to this very day, it's very unfair to blame anon for not playing that.

>>719002187
>the year of our lord 2025-~10
>not knowing what gaiden means

>>719002026
It's apparently their business strategy now given how fucking expensive the DLC is.
Shame that shoving a bunch of series off to DLC means they don't get properly integrated into the main story which is half the reason you'd want them to begin with.

>>719002430
It didn't look like it would be like this with 30, 30 had plenty of cool picks independent of the DLC, and except for maybe Sakura Wars, I didn't really care about any of the series not being in the main game
Here, it's like, Da Garn deserved better, Braiger is literally a top 10 /m/ show for me, Big O is one of the things that got me into mecha etc while I don't give a rat's ass about anything in the base game except G Gundam, which is recycled from T and still don't have Schwarz anyway

>>719002430
Yeah it is all well and good adding Big O and KR but why should I give a fuck when instead of getting a mix of their stories i am just doing Witch from mercury duels against random guys from other shows or such.

>>718995039
>bought on release
>still haven't finished
>jump in from time to time to clear at least one mission
>"I wish I was playing ps2 era"

>>719003102
The only reason I finished it was copious amounts of auto-battle.

>>718995039
30 + all DLC feels like it is really really fucking long for a SRW

>>718995039
>>719003102
30 just drags and drags after a point with most stages feeling like filler, even if something does happen to progress the story.

>>718993256 (OP)
No zoids no buy

>>719003764
Love me some zoids. I wonder when Wild will make it's way into SRW?

>>719003764
You get New Century Zero without Bit Cloud. Best I can do.

>>719003764
God I used to love that zoids GBA rpg, I have not emulated in years so I wonder how hard it would be to find and see if it lives up to what I remember.

>>718997315
>the interesting series comes next SRW
>Code Geass Roze, Grendizer U

What’s a good SRW game for someone that has never played before? Do I just look at the series in the English-translated ones that draw me in the most?

>>719001973
they need to start putting ZZ back in, i want more haman-char interactions

>>719001973
I had completely forgotten Roux gets the Zeta in ZZ, shows how much of a forgettable character she is

>>719004268
OGs is really where it's at. But if you want specifically crossover ones, just pick whatever's in English except for 30, it's like chewing on rubber. My first SRW was AP and I had great fun(but it did twist my balls a few times).
>>719004479
No one really "got" anything in ZZ, they were all swapping suits all the time as far as I remember

>>719004479
having the zeta end up acting like a glorified mk2 was just one of ZZ's many failures
picrel ending up with that faggot beecha was another

>>719004641
Why OG over the crossover titles? I’m assuming since they don’t have to pay for licenses they can use more of the budget for the game itself?

>>718993978
SRW 30 also had an english release and a global one to boot.

>>718993256 (OP)
>paid full price for the ultimate edition of SRW30
>regretted it because of a combination of the game not being great, the shit localisation, and DLC being announced that's not included with the ultimate edition/season pass (wouldn't have cared about that if the game was actually good desu)
>SRW Y does it again with another obscene ultimate edition that no doubt won't include everything
>also they added denuvo specifically to stop buyers from unlocking the DLC for free (it won't stop pirates from pirating the switch game lol)
Yeah, I'm not falling for this again.

>>719003764
I swear if the next SRW game after Y won't have both Zoids and Patlabor (because there is a crossover event with those two) I will riot.

>uchuu space number one
>B rank in space
Why?

>>719004816
2bh I always thought the Zeta was an overrated as shit mobile suit aside its looks, and playing PS2 Gundam games only reinforced that opinion
I'd honestly rather have a Gabthley or even a Marasai over the Zeta

>>719005424
>Zeta was an overrated as shit mobile suit aside its looks
I like Zeta well enough other than its looks.

>>719004863
Thanks for the idea of playing the switch version instead when the game releases anon.

>>718999047
Seriously. The new animations look like ass. The quality has went down a lot.

>>719005424
i get the gabthley, but marasai? that glorified zaku is just asking for the amuro classic pipe rip

>>719005627
Mainline has always looked bad compared to OG.

>>719004830
Yeah, it is generally more polished

>>719005679
the Marasai is a beast of a mook mobile suit if we consider
>it has very good mobility despite being armored to fuck, kind of like the Dom
>the generator is powerful enough it can make its beam rifle fire three round bursts without using the ECAP at all
if you want a real piece of shit mobile suit from Zeta, look no further than the Gaza C, with an honorable mention to the Barzam

>>718999047
>Mazinger Zero is the average animation in V
Dishonest.

>>719006069
well you won't find me arguing against that one, can't really get much worse than an MS that falls apart all by itself

I want to buy a physical copy until I realized it’s Asia area only. Bamco eat my shit

Preordered a physical copy but I'm still playing SRW 30... Will probably pick up the ultimate edition on Steam in a few years when it's cheap.

>>718993256 (OP)
Doesn't have Rayearth. Shall not buy.

>>718993256 (OP)
Already preordered even when everyone hates the fuck out of it, which is why I'll probably be the only person on /v/ playing it.

>>719001407
Its based on the anime. Not the live action series.

I just hope the MC OG robots gets a good upgrade.

>>719007097
>a good upgrade
here is your flying pack you’re welcome

>>718993256 (OP)
I’m really excited. The only one I played was V but didn’t get far. This one I plan to finish no matter what since it has more series I like. Also I had to buy that Ultimate Edition since Y is the first SRW to get an official Western console release. Fuck 30 for only coming to the West on pc

>>719007312
>Fuck 30 for only coming to the West on pc
Anon 30 was on switch too

I'm torn, I do want to play it but I kinda remember seeing them say that they're planning to do the same story system as 30 which is putting me off.
50 quid for a game made in unity with the DD mobile game code is also very bitter.

just post xci

>>719008513
You can literally play the demo right now or do actual research. Y is copying Impact/MX which are divided into chapters with a fixed first/last map and the inbetween maps can be done in any order.
This gives player freedom while making it easier on writers to have a controlled narrative.

>>719008513
>DD Code
Are you retarded? The closest thing to looking like DD is Arc's Getter Beam and that's because they both reference the same choreography in the anime.
There's a lot of other things that make this assumption false.

30 was so horrible that I lost faith to the franchise

>>719009213
I'm sure they remade it all from scratch separately.

>>718993256 (OP)
I don't give a shit about new shows and the ones I want aren't getting in so whatever, I just want OG at this point.

>>718993256 (OP)
Base Roster would be improved if Da-Garn was base game, but so far from what we've seen, I'm liking it. The only thing I'm asking now is what they are doing with Mazinkaiser this time around, because it seems to be "reuse everything from SRW V and X, along with a new GoD spirit" and that's about it.
>>718997315
Yeah, honestly hoping Y does well and this means we get another game we all of those in it. Though I'd personally also add Knights of Sidona to it.

We've been getting SRW games in English for a while now, but it is still pretty wild that we are getting one that has Macross in it. Shame that it is Delta.

>>719003361
It's because they combined all the route splits into one playthrough rather than requiring you to experience them in multiple ng+ playthroughs. Pair this up with ExC and the game feels like a slog to play.

>>719009327
If you made even a cursory glance of DD's system, then you'd know that reusing DD's code base is a waste of time in a lot of areas since they're fundamentally different games mechanically.

>>718993256 (OP)
Why is Geass again in SRW?

>>718993256 (OP)
I won't be playing it until I catch up on Gundam, and I'm only at Seed so there's a long way for me to go.
GC also got me interested in L-Gaim, so I'll probably give that a watch too before playing other SRWs with it

>>719001245
SRW fans mainly play the games because they can see their favorite series as fanservice. Moon Dwellers and OGs2 were a lot harder in comparison, especially if you were going for the optional SR points (and if you weren't a pussy you would).

>>719009831
It had to make its debut on consoles sooner or later, and it's been more than a decade since Macross has been in a console SRW at all. There's always the chance the previous series might return in the future, except for DYRL for obvious shitty reasons.

>>718993256 (OP)
The truth is that the series never had good animation, and even the “best” entries are average SRPGs at best. People only played for the cast interactions, and now the casts are boring as fuck, zero chemistry, nothing meshes, and the bad writing does nothing to help it

>>719004268
I started with A Portable like the other anon, however I played the Plus patch that makes the game more of a standard experience that's supposed to be closer to the original A in difficulty rather than the brutal RNG fest that the base remake is.

>>719010327
>the series never had good animation
You're full of shit

>>719009973
One of Sunrise's still active series outside of Gundam, plus they can reuse whatever new animation they've made this game for the next one if they use Roze in the next game.

>>719010465
>That's impressive to the Mechafag
Kek

>>719010345
>Closer in difficulty to the original game
Not really. Plus also takes a fair bit of liberties here and there such as with Daitarn 3, Puru 2's mech and so on.
Its good for replays but you really should have played the original version first.

All I want is the "open world" bullshit to be GONE.

>>719010787
>takes a fair bit of liberties here and there such as with Daitarn 3, Puru 2's mech and so on
Can you elaborate on that a bit?

>>719010894
Puru 2 doesnt come with a Psyco MkII.
Daitarn in particular plays quite differently due to range modifications and stuff running off of the opposite stat.
Level locks more or less being removed seriously makes the early game easier (they existed in GBA too), so you have considerably more fire power.
That's off the top of my head.

>>719010787
>Have to always be in an EWAC and use Focus/Strike to hit anything
Nah, base Portable sounds absolutely miserable

>>719011709
Yeah A was shit

>>718993256 (OP)
I have no interest in a lazyass dying franchise

>>718993256 (OP)
sorry, bros. but the game looks low quality as fuck. i'm gonna skip it. hopeful the next game is better.
i'm not gonna pay full price for a game that looks like a low budget mobile game

I hope that when they add Gundam Pokemon (because the designs were done by TAKE) to SRW they allow us to save the MILF.

>>719011709
Have you actually played it? SR enemies have shit evasion as usual and you can skip the majority of the RR stages. Only the Cyber NTs, Master Asia and the Don suck with accuracy.

>>718999047
What grinds my gear even more is that it all looks really low rez, like its already stretched out in 1080p

>Witch from Mercury
No thanks. I like Majestic Prince but it's not enough since I like fanservice and don't see much of it. I'd rather new super robot wars OG full of boobs or new PXZ

>>719012378
>have to avoid stages of the series I'm into because the devs didn't balance the new hit/evade stat calculations properly
Yeah no, there's no reason to play it, Plus is just a better experience.

It looks like absolute garbage, I will not be getting it, and this is someone who bought the last 4 games.

>>719010327
>Me when I lie:

>>719012221
And romance her too

>>719007550
It got an English release in Asia, not a full Western release Iike what 30 got on Steam. You have to jump through hoops to download the DLC in the West on PS and Switch unlike on pc

For the love of god bamco, just give us pc ports of ogs games. Stop peddling this slop, just stick to gacha, you're making more money there anyway

>>719010327
Maybe it is not up to your standards, but its better than most of these series own writing

It looks worse than 30 and 30 was already dogshit

SRW needs to take a hard look at themselves again, do some fucking soul searching and take a long break (yes longer than 30) and make a game that doesn't feel like they're just going through the motions again

>>719013080
Not sure why they haven't since there's no copyright issue with that series

>>719013089
This is retarded cope.

I won't play it right away but I just hope it's good at least. If not there's at least the SRW games I haven't haven't gotten around to playing yet. And FMW

>>719012221
Ngl SRW with Gqux allowing me to save any of the one and done characters like Shiiko and Deux Murasame would be nice. That being said I mostly expect them just to use it for the universe-ending pilot to bring in Mazinger ZERO or whatever else you have there.

>>719010162
I thought DYRL is on the table again due to prying it out of Harmony Gold's cold dead hands.

I know Macross 7 is off the table due to that music lawsuit by someone else.

just make one final OG game with banpreios/dairaioh/dis astranagant and shit and let the series rest for good

>>719013309
Gqux getting in would actually make them give us a good rx-78 that isn't just meant to be a stepping stone for nu again, so that'd be neat

>>719013436
Never ever

>>719013213
>Anime fanfiction game should have amazing writing
Lel

>>719012761
Plus is a worse experience if you like Axel since they nerfed him for no reason.

>>719013494
i know..

>people decide to support the first proper global release
>bamco takes it as a signal that people would buy shit regardless and don't improve on anything
Grim

>>719011956
Mecha itself is dying. Even the EVA and new Gundam director thinks so. Kids see mecha stuff as boomer crap.

>>718996794
OG are very different from cross over games in terms of vibe since it's telling a story instead of being a playground for cross over interactions.

>>718999047
so now we're pretending like the shitty flash """animations""" consisting of tweened still images looked good?

>>719013601
Doesnt help the fact that the new mecha shows are objectively inferior to their predecessors

>>719013651
retard

>>719013480
Given they already have animations for it from 30, there's no doubt in my head, they will at add a "Hyper mode" finisher move to it and power up some of it's other atks as well. Plus we might just get the Red RX-78 if all goes well.

>>719013601
Mecha IS boomer shit, unironically

Mecha peaked in the 80s, even as far back as the 90s Mecha was seen as an old man genre.

>>719013679
nigger
animated sprites > 3d animation > 2d cardboard cutouts glued to a stick being shaken arround

>>718999047
Looks like Adventure Quest

>>719013802
So you're not only retarded but a dumb nigger too good to know

>>719013185
Effort.

People who emulate the games don't give a shit and know what they're in for. If they release it on modern devices people will bitch at the aspect ratio and how pixilated the 720p (i think?) sprites look on a 1080p or 1400p screen. IMO they'd need to do something like redraw everything, or have an AI upscale and look how that worked for GTA.

Oh and also they'd need to do OG1, OG2, and OG:Gaiden, three full ass games.

I'd love an OGs1 remaster but it's a bitter pill to take,

>>719013601
I would honestly throw it out that original series are dying in general. Everything now feels like it's an adaptation of something else, or if it is a OG show then it only gets 12 episodes which isn't really enough time.

Will Felsi Rollo be in it? This is a very important question that will impact on the decision of whether or not I will buy it.

>>719013425
Never heard about a music lawsuit, but that one Macross game that got released this year, Shooting Insight, had to remove all traces of the original series and DYRL for the western release, but it had everything else, 7 included.

>>719013518
I like Axel and him in the Ascheretter was one of my best units in Plus, so clearly the nerf didn't matter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6AO_wWtjkw&t=180s

OG IS THE PEAK OF SRW

SEARCH YOUR FEELINGS, YOU KNOW IT TO BE TRUE

>>719013867
If they release OG2nd on modern hardware (And dark prison DLC) and MD, that's five huge fucking games too + plus one DLC

Even more work if they decide to redo MD's...translation

>>719013663
Which honestly pisses me off. I think the Witch from Mecury pilot was one of the best Gundam episodes I've ever seen, and it was pissed away. Christ that makes me as angry as Destiny.

>>719013959
>YOU KNOW IT TO BE TRUE
ANIME JA NAI

>>719013997
They're not remaking it from scratch. It would be cheaper than even modern day srw games.

>>718993256 (OP)
I still need to finish my 30 playthrough

>>719013997
>Even more work if they decide to redo MD's...translation
Such words, even I could!

>>719013891
Most works these days seems like they were plundered from the LN/novel realm before being adapted. I think Japan takes a few more risks on original IP than the west, but its still pretty bad.

Back in 2007~2008 I saw TTGL, Code Geass and Macross Frontier

Since then I got the delta movies which were fucking great, but anything else that came after has failed to grab me as much as these did

I did enjoy some older shit like GGG but I don't know why new mecha shit feels so mid

>>719014132
Never said it had to be a remake, but just porting it would be lazy, you would have to have staff port a PS3 and remaster it to modern systems

>>719014231
In the original hayday, Japan was in their bubble. They had the money to piss with, so made a bunch of series with very high production valves.

Nowadays they're in a recession and shareholders want returns, they're caught in the same trap as in the west.

>>719014231
>but I don't know why new mecha shit feels so mid
Everyone already knows they can't make the next Eva, or SEED or the slew of other famous mecha shows from back then, in the end. What can you do? Make a show and pray it doesn't shit the bed at least.

I really just want to use Big O. So dlc edition for me.
Id rather play this than unreal solid delta.

>>719005424
>Zeta was an overrated as shit mobile suit
Isn't that essentially canon though? The Zeta's important features was being able to transform, having a portable mega bazooka launcher installed, and having a psycommu system.
If you aren't a newtype, then it's just moderately upgraded Hyaku Shitty— especially since you can't even use the wave rider if it's shield or either of its legs (you can't use the hyper mega launcher either.) And if you aren't an ace, you're wasting it's potential since its performance degrades dramatically if you allow it to be damaged.

>>719014231
Heck there aren't even more stupidly written mecha anime like CG either

>>719015436
The last new mecha series that really made it big were the Gridman trilogy and Bravern (the later is based on an old IP, but still), and even then their popularity is still mainly a Japan only thing, besides that there's not really that much released in the past decade, hard to make notable stuff in a genre that's more and more niche as time passes.

>>719012718
>I like Majestic Prince
I can't understand people liking this shit, everyone shitting on the MC is fucking annoying.
>true friends shit each other
Yeah but the MC is too nice to shit them back, making this completely one side and annoying as result.

>>719016001
>the later
Meant the former, obviously.

Leak?

>>719013861
what's wrong zoomernigger? having a melty? pissing your pants?

>>719010327
I feel like the second point you make is only due to what your personal preference for which series got in and which didn't. Personally I like the Wing and the G cast so their inclusion and their interactions in the game would be something I'm interested in (Fuuto PI is just an extra bonus for me too) wheras people who hate these series would obvious say there's no chemistry and meshing because they generally don't want to see those characters interact.

>>718999292
That retard is Ghideon Zhi because he selects the most random shit, and then farms out the labor to people on forums.
The dude could belch out the 16 bit titles with ease, but decided to make Alpha Gaiden (and not Alpha for some reason) his first major SRW. It turned out to be his only major one. He never finished Alpha, and has been sitting on it for 20 years. Took him forever to finish Masoukishin.

Honestly I've come to really dislike the dude. Our first English SRW and it's got his stink on it, and he was a massive fag about stuff even before his public melty over If.

>>719014231
Dynazenon was a joy for me and I wish it was longer. It felt constrained by its 12 episode count at times. The only other 2020s mech show I’ve seen was Back Arrow back when it was coming out weekly and that one didn’t hit with me. I still need to watch Bravern

>>718999292
The thing is anon, there was an Alpha 1 translation going on at the time. It was just abandoned and it was the Alpha Gaiden translation that was completed.

>>719019342
Alpha translation was being handled by the same group, headed by the same guy as Gaiden. Given how much of a fag Zhi is, he probably ran through everyone willing to work with him and has no translators left.

>>719014935
reading your post made me think of two things
1. the ReGZ is essentially a better Hyaku Shiki
2. the Hyaku Shiki isn't as bad people think it is, and probably is much better than the Zeta as a close quarter combat mobile suit, it's possibly even a better rounded mobile suit than the Zeta considering it can equip the clay bazooka unlike the Zeta. I think so because the clay bazooka at least has some utility against shit that uses I-fields, and as far as I remember psycho Gundams have that

>>718993256 (OP)
Very poor franchises choices, this is going to be the worst SRW in a long time

>>719021309
30 already claimed that title.

>>719000586
I really don't get why they didn't get Kamen Rider for 30. They had the original Gundam and introduced an Ultraman series to the franchise, it would've made WAY more sense to also get Kamen Rider in there for the anniversary game, especially as a nice call back on how Banpresto used to make games with all them in it.

As for this game...I mean, it looks fine? Nothing that makes me want to get it right away. Absolutely hate how DLC holds back content, especially when it's stuff you used to be able to unlock

>>719021603
we can always go lower

>>718993978
Let me sell it to you even more:
In SRW Y, Kamille joins Char's Neo-Zeon.

>>719014031
SRW OG actually got two anime TV series and a direct-to-video OAV.

>>719023601
LET'S GO, FIGHTING GUYS!
FLASH ON, SHINING GIRLS!

>>718993256 (OP)
How many games in the series? How many in English?

>>719023982
>How many games in the series?
50+ though not all related in a single continuity.

>How many in English?
Officially? SRW OG, OG2, V, X, T, 30, and Endless Frontier.
So 7, assuming I didn't miss one.

>>719023982
To add to the above post these are the fully fan translated games.

Super Robot Wars (GB)
Super Robot Wars 2 (NES/GBA)
Super Robot Wars 3 (SNES)
Super Robot Wars EX (SNES)
Super Robot Wars Gaiden: Masoukishin - The Lord of Elemental (SNES)
Super Robot Wars Alpha Gaiden (PS1)
Super Robot Wars GC (GC)
Super Robot Wars J (GBA)
Super Robot Wars W (DS)
Super Robot Wars Original Generations (PS2)
Super Robot Wars A Portable (PSP)
Super Robot Taisen OG Saga: Endless Frontier Exceed (DS)

I'll be busy with Gears Reloaded and Lost Soul Aside sorry Darrell "Big D" Washington.

>>718993256 (OP)
I genuinely don't care about Gundam. Was never able to finish a single anime series due to how bad and boring they be home halfway through. Seeing that the mainline wanks them to high heaven now is just awful

>>719020547
The Shiki's issue is that it's not the main character's mech, it's a supporting character unit. So it's gotta be a partial jobber. That's one of the issues I have with these shows, because it's an almost mandatory genre trope. It's the reason why the Zeta looks weaker in ZZ than it should, when it absolutely should be a monster. Though another anon has made a good case for why it's performance was lower in Zeta, as it wasn't being utilized by a Newtype, or ace pilot.

As to the Shiki, though; Char shouldn't be as useless as he was in Zeta. He should have been less of an absolute unit as he was in 0079, because of course he would be. He's aged some, and mobile suit warfare plus piloting theory would have advanced by quite some time by the era of the Gryps Conflict, so it stands to reason that he wouldn't be such an overbearing threat as he was around the days of the Battle of Loum, but still. Him being overwhelmed by the Quebeley makes sense, as it's psycommu equipped and Char is just a weak Newtype. However he is a Newtype, and has considerable more combat experience than practically everyone else in the conflict. However in a lot of cases you see Char just being the guy who has to wait for Camille to show up and save the day. Amuro was also very weak in the show by comparison. Again trope reasons.

Witch from Mercury is instant disqualification and even if it wasn't there I'd at least hold off on buying it and wait to hear what people say due to the effort of making it more western-friendly.

"NEVER EVER" things that made into SRW before Franxx:
>Yamato 2999
>S-cry-ed
>Super Sentai
>Little witch academia
>Magic knight rayeheart
>Godzilla
>Kamen Rider
At this rate Megas XLR is gonna get in before Franxx.

>>719026269
What's the next NEVER EVER that could get in SRW?

>>719025926
amuro at least makes sense narratively given he's got eight years of rust to work off PLUS he's still dealing with the unresolved trauma he has from all the shit he went through in the OYW
once he's comfortable and figured himself out again seemingly he's right back to white devil status, but we don't get to see that part sadly (which to be fair is probably why he can get away with it, since otherwise kamille would HAVE to save his ass at some point)

>>719026376
Transformers.

>>719024551
Bro it's always been like this. Japan has had early "which series do you want to see in the next SRW?" polls yearly, and Char's Counterattack ALWAYS gets in the top 5, often the first pick. This is despite how they get their own SRPG's in G Generation.

Gundam otaku are both rabid and insane.

>>719026376
Pacific Rim

>>719027380
I wanna forget Pacific Rim, they ruined everything with the second movie.

>>718993256 (OP)
I'm going to wait for it to go on sale. All the interesting stuff is in the DLC

>>719022276
>I really don't get why they didn't get Kamen Rider for 30.
Because they're doing Fuuto Pi and not the live action and it didn't get an anime until after 30 came out. They don't want to pay for likenesses for live action series so they only do anime/manga. You can say "but they could have just done Fuuto Pi's manga" and while that's not wrong, they very rarely do manga only series.

>>719026449
That's true. Amuro in Zeta was working through a lot of stuff. I think that's why I really dislike Beltorchika. No man that's been through what Amuro's been through needs something like that in his life at that point. She was pushy, selfish and dramatic.
Maybe at the Second Neo Zeon, Amuro could have dealt with her a little better, because by then he'd come to grips with everything and had healed. But it's also Amuro and he's shit with women no matter what.

make an OG with actual effort skill points and all the jazz again and just let the series die gracefully, please...

>>719028301
What you'll get instead is another OG1/2 remake(s) ported to the 30 system with the modern shitty animation.
>the monkey paw curls a finger

>>719007046
Nah, I'll also be playing it as soon as it unlocks. I'm a sucker for /m/ shit, and I like SRPGs, even if SRW has been getting easier and easier as time goes by. I'm hoping the changes to the higher difficulty levels will help a lot.

>>719026376
Digimon. It just needs some sort of movie or anime that prominently features the more mech-like mons.

>>719028301
>OG
No more OG. It's gatcha now

>>719006227
>the average animation in V isn't significantly better than the ugly 3D model shit they're using in Y
Dishonest.

>>719029893
I will say that I haven't seen many animations from Y, but the animations from V really weren't anything to write home about, and I genuinely can't believe Y is THAT bad.

>>719027307
I really, really, Really, FUCKING REALLY wish they would do more alt universe and alt scenario settings. Like:
>Hundred Year War where Char is captured early and travels with the White Base as a prisoner, never becoming a rivalry with Amuro and instead becoming more of a mentor
>A Zeta where Haman didn't forcibly break their Newtype attraction and she developed a similar fondness for him that she did for Jewdough
>Turn A where Loran stays as Laura for the entire plot or the Turn A is stored in a more complete state, retaining much more of it's Dark History weaponry and functions.
Et cetera. Hell, even just give me a Antispiral fight where all the gundam protag units merge together to form a multipilot Spiral Gundam.

>>719029893
It likely will be, but it's still somewhat disingenuous. That game in particular jammed most of its budget into a handful of units while everything else got shafted. Even the protag units had a lot of issues, with one of the most erroneous moments being them have the VangNex do a loop by literally doing a 360 rotation of the sprite and hoping you wouldn't notice.

>>718993256 (OP)
>Destiny, Wing, Geass, CCA, Zeta, G, and Dumbine are either post series or going to be harshly abridged
>reusing majestic prince, combattler, and L-gaim already
Can't say I care too much.

>>719030090
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HU3SATBNp-I

>>719030216
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLFAVsPamB4
Nigger even the fucking Full Metal Panic units had better animations than what they're shitting out in Y. These 3D models are animated like shit since they don't deform them like they do with 2D animation, they just rotate and pose them and sometimes draw effects on top, and they just plain look like shit as a result of all sharing the same ugly lighting with the bright edge highlights for some reason. Even when V used 3D like with some of Vilkiss' attacks it looked a million times better. Dynazenon has a handful of cuts where they actually draw it in 2D and the difference is night and day, compared to Mazinger Zero there who actually looks somewhat similar between his basic sprite and his detailed face scene.

I like gundam, what is this series about?

>>719031224
>the fmp units had better animations
You're blind if you think that the Mithril units looked better. Only Amalgam looked decent because Arios Guy worked on RRs like he's supposed to.

>Still no Muv-Luv
>Still no Sidonia
>Still no Bravern
>Still no Valvrave
>Still no Captain Earth

>>719013959
>Play OGs on the PS2 after the shitshow that was 30
>Animations are generally high quality
>Dynamic finishes all over the place
>Maps actually have terrain that matters
>Difficulty is actually reasonably challenging throughout
>Isn't bloated to hell and back
Where did it all go so wrong?

>>718993256 (OP)
Are my favorite UC boys in it like Kamille

>>719032094
Zeta and Char's Counterattack are in, yes.

>>718993256 (OP)
these games are always overpriced
and until they actually make it a real srpg with any kind of real challenge and not just a faceroll "look at robot from this ip" and nothing beyond that, it's simply not worth any money

>>719031224
I hate minimalist UIs so much. They're so soulless.

>>718993256 (OP)
I'm curious enough about Godzilla that I have made the purchase, even though I really don't care about WFM.

>>719029893
>>719031224
>this retarded song and dance again
There's a bunch of returners with similar choreography in the VTX30 era touch ups/improvements such as the units from G and Wing.
So if they're bad in Y then they're also bad in VTX30. I'd even go back as for as Z3 for the likes of Wufei.
None of you have working eyes.

>>719032037
>OGs
>Difficulty is actually reasonably challenging
OGs is easy little bro. Did you only play VTX30?

>>719032389
>across five games you had a few units with middling animations
>this excuses Y's new animations being plagued by garbage 3D models and lazy work across the board

>>719032724
Am I supposed to take your opinion seriously when you unironically think garbage like Z3 Arbalest look better than anything in Y?

I have to wonder if going global is one reason why it's getting lacklustre. Like in all likelihood, just the fact that it's on Steam and available globally on a digital platform, Y is still gonna be making more money for Bandai Namco than when it was just a nice physical copy series that was primarily available in just Asia. Maybe this idea made them lazier.

>>719032508
I also played D, J, K, L, GC, Z, Z2, and Z3. OGs was harder than any of them.

>>719033240
>OGs was harder than of them
Ryusei's infamous waterworks is a joke when you realize that almost all of his units have flight or water movement.
They added Barrier Pierce to a bunch of weapons and twins which drastically inflates your exp/pp/damage compared to GBA on top of them making skill purchases cheaper.
There is no way you could call OGs "difficult" unless its your very first game.

>>719033795
>There is no way you could call OGs "difficult" unless its your very first game.
Well it's a good thing I didn't say that.
>>719032037
>>Difficulty is actually reasonably challenging throughout

Now justify the "very first game" part when I've played another dozen games that were all easier.

>>719033165
>>719032724
When you gain actual discernment beyond old good/new bad then we can have an actual conversation.
You probably think Arc's Getter Beam was 1:1 with DD's lol.

>>719031310
>I like gundam, what is this series about?
Basically, what it says on the tin. A turn-based strategy game where you get to play with Mechs as your units on the map. Animations for both friend and foe alike will play when battles start. Depending on if you are playing OG or a Crossover game SRW is about something different. In this case, SRW is about series like Gundam, Mazinger Z, Getter Robo, and more crossovers in a world where these events happened on a single timeline.

>guys Y using shitty 3D models now is good actually because uhhhhhhhhh some of the animations when they first switched to HD were lacklustre
>what do you mean after how well 30 sold they should have enough money to make an entire game on par with Mazinger Zero?

>>719033920
How did you find OGs harder than Z as an overall experience? Did you play on Rand aka easy mode?
OGs is around the same difficulty level as something like L as a NUR. Even Hakai's Jigenjuu are more threatening most of the mooks in OGs.

>>719034245
You're either an idiot or hopelessly naive if you think that all the money they made on sales went back into developing the next game.

>>719031767
>Still no Sidonia
>Still no Bravern
I hope these show up next game, I need my alien daughter (Lulu) and my alien wife (Tsumugi Shiraui) to be friends.

>>719034214
how does it compare to other turn-based strategy games like FFT, front mission or even fire emblem?

>>719034652
You're an idiot for not understanding that it was a criticism of them being cheap and cutting costs.

>>719000586
My favorite rider.
He's so cool.
Best KR design

>>719034776
>Can't tell that he's being mocked

>>718993256 (OP)
Who is the new original girl?

From what game should I start in the series? I don't know anything about giant robots.

>>719034245
>>719034776
>Pissing and shitting himself impotently because he got called out for being a blind retard

>>719034756
I don't think any of the SRW crossover games are beating FFT in terms of being a TBS (I haven't played OG, so I will not be bringing them up much here). Comparing it to FE, I prefer SRW over them by a landslide, since not only do they have better animation, thanks to spirits it cuts out some of the more annoying parts of FE, like missing attacks of 85 to 95% thanks to strike.

>>719035314
If you don't care about the crossover aspect then play OGs on the PS2. Most of the games aren't translated and 30 is the only other one officially available in the west thus far and it's also shit.

>>719036154
What do you think about GBA games?

>>719036692
They're simplistic and antiquated and I don't care for them outside of J having Zeorymer being comically overpowered.

>>719036692
J is fun, but the ones before are dated even by GBA standards.

>played all the GBA games

>>719013959
Is it fine to start with the GBA OG games? How much does the PS2 version improve on them?

>>719037021
The only major mechanical addition that OGs added to the GBA games was twins which you dont even have to use.
If those are too dated then you sure as hell won't be able to enjoy OGs which is almost the exact same game. Hell, OG2 GBA has units like Dygenguar with choreography comparable to games on the fucking PS2.
All J has on A/R/D is that it looks prettier for obvioua reasons (~2002 vs near end of GBA game)

>>718999303
That's the othe part of the franchise and where some crossovers have stayed.

>>719037408
>more units
>more stages
>more story
>twin system
There's no real reason to stick with the GBA versions unless you want to wank over the difficulty.

>>719037408
OGs is easier than the GBA games.
OG1 and OGs1 is practically the same game with some minor narrative changes and an extra unit.
OGs2 added 6 new stages, some new units, made major narrative changes. The original final boss of OG2 GBA was deleted and replaced with the secret final boss. The stage that the secret final boss came from was removed from the game.
They also added some teaser stages for a sequel.

>>718993256 (OP)
Waiting for the supposed expansion pass that wraps up multiple unfinished series.

>>719037408
The gba art style and music are charming, so I think they're worth playing if you also like that sort of thing.

>>719032094
Zeta and CCA are in like 90% of the franchise.

>>719038491
>Expansion Pass
Assumptions about things that dont exist
>WfM S2
IS NOT GOING TO BE IN THE GAME, THEY SAID S1 GOING TO HAVE ITS OWN FUCKING ENDING
>Macross Delta
Movie 1 is a complete narrative akin to the TV Series. This isnt Frontier where they split the narrative into two.

>>719034756
Weaker. Still fun but gameplay is way too basic and easy.

>>719038296
Who was the OG2 final boss?

>>719038705
T and 30 had expacs.

>>719038902
OG2 GBA used IMPACT/Compact 2's final boss and gave him a new form in the secret stage as a reference to Char trying to drop Axis in the original game.
OGs does a mishmash of the original ending with the colony sized form.

>>719038958
Yeah but T's didn't really continue any of the series plot, and 30's only continued MJP with the movie, and that was done in 2 stages out of 13
I don't understand why people are so convinced WfMS2, Delta movie 2, or Seed Freedom and Code Geass Roze are going to get into an expansion pack. They can just add other unrelated series in a potential Y expansion and keep those sequels as headliners for future titles. Hell that's what happened to Freedom in DD

>>719039478
Why should I buy the game now at full price instead of waiting for the inevitable expansion pack which doesn't even get included in the super duper ultra expensive deluxe version purchase?

So, what's the story this time?

>>719039601
I don't know anon. Nothing stops you from not playing the game, or from pirating the switch release
Hell if you want to actually buy the game but are in no rush to py full price why not just wait 2 years and get it at -50% or less? It's a bamco game, look at how many sales bamco games get on average, and by that time the expansion would be out

>>719026376
Ginguiser

What they are doing to the series
>reuse animation from mobile game and previous game
>worst tier writing they can’t even write fanfic properly
>dogshit series joining (magic knight and witch from mercury)
>shameless dlc combos asking you to pay for music
I can’t find a reason to keep supporting srw

No Nadesico, no buy.

>>718993256 (OP)
I've never played a SRW, but I've drained a lot of semen to this bitch. How much does she show up in it?

>>719042539
Good riddance.

>>719042680
I've played like 15 different SRW games and I have no idea who this character is
Looks like one of Watanabe's cows, but AFAIK she's not in the mobileshit he did designs for

Did anyone else think the OP thumbnail kinda looked like Barkley Gaiden?

>>719042680
She's from the old dead gacha and nothing else.

>>719002330
gay den?