Thread 718994008

>GUYS VALVE MIGHT BE MAKIN-

Let me stop you right there
Valve has been "making" a sequel to everyone of their beloved franchises for the last 20 years, they just never fucking come out

>>718994008 (OP)
It's Artifact 2

>>718994008 (OP)
No it couldn't.

>>718994070

Alyx was released in 2020

just 2 more decades

>>718994158
Spinoff. VR exclusive made by a secondary team.
Will never ever count as Half-Life 3.
Ever.

>>718994008 (OP)
OP is dumb valve can't count to 3

>>718994202
>It doesn't count because... It just doesn't ok?
Let me guess CS2 also doesn't count

>>718994008 (OP)
Any TF3 made today would be soulless, sanitized and generic

it would be a port of existing game at best, not with that kind of economy already in place
they really fucked themselves in this department by not making a clear end of line support agreement for tf2 in first place

>>718994202


Alyx was made by the main team with veterans from HL1 and 2, read the final hours of Alyx

>Gaben
>3
LMAO!

>>718994297
This but unironically

If Valve doesn't give put out an SDK for linux users to make maps and shit then this is mostly pointless.
(Mostly because getting tf2 decoupled from middleware that is owned by hostile third parties [Havok from Microsoft and Bink Video/Miles Audio which got bought by Epic] is a good thing but doesn't address the current actual issue TF2 has being that there's a drought for developers and the only niggas still making maps for the game are quasi-Valve employees who have been doing it for 10 years now)

>>718994008 (OP)
A source 2 port of TF2 might be good, but it might destroy the artstyle of the game as well. They'd have to maintain the graphics 1:1 with only minor tweaks like slight improvement to smoke etc. decals. The only reason for the port being to fix engine-specific bugs and performance issues.

>>718994517
>but it might destroy the artstyle of the game as well
it will, look at cs2
looks nothing like csgo

If they made TF3 it would have to offer something that isn’t offered by TF2 and isn’t offered by the upcoming Deadlock. This means it would be primarily aimed at a casual audience and would need something more or unique to not be a drain on the playerbase of TF2.

You have: TF2 - class based casual shooter

counterstrike 2 - mechanically heavy comp round-based shooter

Deadlock - mechanically heavy comp hero shooter

TF3?? - ????

Valve isn’t a cashgrab company when it comes to their actual releases. They might have business models made to get a ton of money from you, but they don’t release a ton of slop all the time to quickly make a buck. Someone is probably thinking L4D2, which is the only example and was done through a third-party publisher one time in around 30
years. Genuinely, genuinely, I want you to think of at least an art-style that could facilitate a unique for TF3 before you even think about the idea of them secretly working on it alongside Deadlock.

Listen that's cool and all but with Valve I'll believe it when I can personally play it and not a single femtosecond earlier.

>>718994008 (OP)
If anything it's probably just a port to Source 2

>>718994565
>counterstrike 2 - mechanically heavy
lmao

>>718994565
What did CS2 offer that CSGO wasn't already offering?

>>718994517
>but it might destroy the artstyle of the game as well
I get basically nobody here for any of these conversations is a developer, and double that on with TF2 is fucking PLAGUED with self appointed artstyle experts.
But you do realize that there's nothing stopping them from using the same shading algorithms and texture aesthetics for a theoretical Source 2 port.

>>718994761
I meant to write mechanically precise, my apologies

They're not making TF2 Source you retards

>>718994795
>But you do realize that there's nothing stopping them from using the same shading algorithms and texture aesthetics for a theoretical Source 2 port.
They didn't do that for CS2 ( it literally fucked up how skins looked at the very beginning of public access )
These lazy fucks don't care no more, better don't get your hopes up.

They should make a series of single player campaigns in the TF2 world

>>718994916
It’s not 2011 anymore sorry but it’s over

>>718994008 (OP)
You can tell how much of a fucking zoomer OP is lmao, dumb retard. If anything it's TF2 on source 2 and that is a big IF

>>718994869
>These lazy fucks don't care no more, better don't get your hopes up.
Anon it's less work FOR them to use the old shaders.

>>718995490
>it's less work
>but they didn't do it for CS2
>and it still ended up being an undesired "enhancement"

TF2 became a Frankenstein monster patchwork and is generally a mess (I started in 2007 with the Orange Box), so I would welcome a new class based shooter like TF. Hell it might revive the genre, nowadays they're STILL trying to copy Overwatch with the cancerous 6v6 holy trinity format.

>>718994008 (OP)
>maintaining CS2 which is going through a cheater problem and content drought
>making and developping deadlock
>and somehow also developing tf3
i highly doubt it's anything, at the very most they're preparing to port tf2 to source 2 (might be fully finished in a few years if done at all)

>>718997148
didnt overwatch 2 use 5v5 to try to balance the game in vain

>>718994769
cs2 was an engine upgrade from source 1 not a different game

>>718997243
Nah the 5v5 thing was part of the transition to start identifying as a sequel, scraping a couple players off the top to redistribute to try and cut down on queue times.

>>718997334
Ironically CS2 is a different game, which created the issue that it's missing a lot of maps that the community needs to remake.

>>718997167
don't forget Half-Life 3

>>718994008 (OP)
If CS2 is anything to go by I don't want them to make a TF3.

>>718994769
Removed features and alienated its main playerbase by making the game so much more demanding pc wise.

All modern valve is good for is making hardware and proton
If they even want to consider making games they should rehire everyone who left

TF2 in Source 2 with one last content update and unfucking compfag nerfs.

>>718997709
I get it, but I'd still want dev tools for linux users so I can make a map with all the textures being jpegs of he-man, as it should be.

>>718997709
Valve can't balance the game and you're a fucking retard for defending them by blaming your compfag boogeyman. You don't want valve to update TF2.

Don’t care. Finish Artifact Foundry.

Valve screwed over the Artifact fanbase by cancelling the Artifact 2.0 beta without even allowing users to invite friends like they said they would in January 2021 and does not deserve your financial support for these gross consumer-unfriendly practices.

>>718994008 (OP)
new hat simulator
wow who gives a fuck

>>718994008 (OP)
Waiting for Tyler to report on this to know if it's real.

>>718997709
>TF2 with no server browser
nice way to kill the game once and for all

>>718997959
>Precession of updates leading up to the COMPETITIVE update for tf2
>Directly advised on by COMPFAGS AND YOUTUMORS who swore up and down that this was IMPERATIVE to do to the game
>A decade later and years of botting by people who frothing at the mouth furious that Valve won't nerf the Schwicky Schwag
>ERM VALVE JUST INCIDENTALLY DID ALL THE NERFS WE WANTED AND WE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE COMPETITIVE UPDATE BUT ALSO VALVE OWES US MORE NERFS

>>718998107
I get the new Steam Client server browser sucks, but CS2 and Dota 2 can still be server browsed.
The only one that can't afaik is Steam Home.
Also this is ignoring the vast overwhelming majority of the TF2 playerbase can't fucking stand most of the existing "community" servers.

>>718994008 (OP)
Thinking about TF2 has made me nostalgically depressed lately, because I recently realized that this game is almost 20 actual years old and I'm having trouble handling that fact.

>>718998592
I mean for me it's pretty convenient that I've only really had to care about two multiplayer games all this time.
I'm more annoyed in the 20 years it's been out the genre of Class Based Shooter is basically dead and seemingly it's the last game before they decided to start making multiplayer games not fun intentionally, and they all come with rootkits.
I do miss making maps since I switched to linux, however.

>>718997959
>>718998221
Valve DID implement these balance changes in the lead-up to MYM, so they were indeed intending for them to improve the competitive balance
However they also ignored a shitton of compfag feedback, and even the compfags who literally visited Valve HQ to give advice were surprised afterwards

>sandman: literally nobody used it in comp
>caber: literally nobody used it in comp
>ambassador: basically only relevant in highlander and all the comp spy mains loved it (and spy is a borderline irrelevant class so nobody else cared)
>a gazillion weapons still banned in comp for being either OP or unfun got zero changes (jarate, mad milk, quickfix etc.)
Basically the only nerf that compfags actually wanted AND got was the base jumper. It's the ONLY example I can think of where compfags actually thought the weapon was OP, the weapon was relevant in comp, and it got nerfed in a way that compfags wanted.
One of the nerfs was even the fucking righteous bison.

>>718994565
they release a new CoD every year
you could make TF3 with minimal changes

>>718994081
>arTiFact

>>718994238
They're bypassing this by making Team Fortress 2: 2

>>718994008 (OP)
they completely ruined TF2 with all their updates and cosmetics. TF3 is going to be another retarded f2p game full of random bullshit.

>>718994557
You don't play the game, autist.

>gaming crash is imminent
>valve has been cooking 3's for a couple decades
>gaming crash happens
>gaben says ''lol, lmao even'' and releases the orange box 2
>this effectively nukes console gaming and every gaming company that isn't nintendo
>gaben ''hilarious, now I will buy a 4th yacht''
>releases Index 2 with haptic feedback features and Deck 2 with nintendo's bing bing wahoo games
>gaben ''guess i'll buy the moon now'' newell wins again

>>719003352
>now I will buy a 4th yacht
Doesn't he already have six

Burn all valvecucks
Burn all valvecucks
Burn all valvecucks

>>719005204
Dude just bought a company making them, even.

>>718994008 (OP)
hell will sooner freeze over than gabe will make the 3rd game in a series

Test

>>718997629
>All modern valve is good for is making hardware and proton
Well they also have Source 2, it's a silly wish but I do want them to compete in game engine space

>>719009947
stale joke