Thread 718996396

>friend spoils a huge game plot for me
>"why are you so mad? Just play the game anyway, I don't care about spoilers so I don't know why you do"
how do these people exist, am I stupid for caring about spoilers so much? I couldn't play bioshock at all once I was spoiled about the would you rather thing, I couldn't explain why I was so pissed

>>718996396 (OP)
Spoiling things is shitty, sure, but video games are the one medium where getting spoiled isn't that big of a deal. you play video games for the gameplay unlike a movie, show, or book, which exist purely for the story.

>>718996680
i love you

Spike dies btw

>>718996396 (OP)
what did he spoil for you

>>718996396 (OP)
>The most popular book
>Spoiler on the cover

>>718996396 (OP)
is your friend circumcised?

>>718996396 (OP)
I stopped caring about spoilers, I’m just in it for the journey

>>718998087
Friend and I were playing Kotor, he got way ahead of me on his game and got the Revan reveal, then he told me immediately, while explaining how excited and surprised he was

>>718998605
I'm not circumcised and I don't care about spoilers, I don't even understand why other people do, although I try not to spoil things for others unlike OP's friend.
Guess again.

>>718998742
Ok, faggot. You die, but it's not the end. The ride never ends.

>>718998742
>I’m just in it for the journey
That's it right there, seeing how the story goes from point A to point B is more enjoyable than some corny surprise ending.

>be in bootcamp in 2019
>no access to phone or any media outside of mail from family
>avengers endgame comes out
>drill instructor puts us in formation
>spoils the whole movie
>everyone around me freaks the fuck out
I don't understand this, why do most people care this much that spoiling things can be used as a hazing technique and make people break down
it's the journey that matters

>>718998824
>Kotor
If it's old enough it's accepted that it's already part of the larger general knowledge and that you're not entitled to have it unspoiled.
I've never played kotor and even I know he's Darth Revan.

>>718998824
Yeah, that's a bad one. Your friend deserves death

>>718996396 (OP)
I spoiled death note for some random kid that was hanging out in my house one day, back when DN was still rather new.
I've never seen a person so completely devastated before or after that day.

>>718996396 (OP)
Cope

>>718998824
>>718999102
that's a scummy one for sure
BUT
very observant people can pick up clues and determine this plot twist before the reveal
everyone should do a kotor run with the knowledge of the twist and see how full of shit bastila and the jedi council are
it's really well written
I dare say it's better than 2

>>718996680
I've watched fight club for the first time recently already knowing the twist because some youtube video spoiled it. Still an enjoyable movie

>>718999119
My sister spoiled an episode of soul eater I was just about to watch, and it was the episode that changed the entire dynamic of the series

I once had someone blow up on me because he thought I was gonna spoil Jurassic World for him
like nigga WTF is there to spoil? "OH THE DINO EATS SOMEONE"

anyway, I guess spoiling something that was years in the making (like in the third game of a trilogy) could get people upset. Or something that could re-contextualize the entire game, like Revan? I guess a good spoiler won't sting as much if it has been set up well enough beforehand.

>>718996680
I read and enjoyed the Horus Heresy knowing the outcome. It's not the tyoe of media, it's how much the author is leaning on that one story point

>>718996680
On the contrary, I find them easier to spoil because you can spoil the experience, not merely the plot reveals.

>>718996396 (OP)
>am I stupid for caring about spoilers
Yes
If you care about the shock twist so much just read a quick plot synopsis

>>718998993
>drill instructor puts us in formation
>spoils the whole movie
do you remember what he said? because that sounds hilarious

>>718996396 (OP)
To an extent, no. You can only experience something for the first time once and having someone spoil it can suck. However, I'm of the opinion that a good story isn't "ruined" by spoilers. So you should still see it through to the end. Sometimes it's not the twist itself, but the way it's execute is more important, and I say this as someone that had both major twists in Code Geass spoiled for me (Though at the time I said I didn't mind being spoiled because I had no intention of watching it, was still a fun ride when I did watch it in the end.) Fuck Rolo, obnoxious little cunt

Also, you should play Bioshock, it's a good game and there's more to it than that one twist.

>>718998824
Your friend is a cunt and you should return the favour to see if he still "doesn't care about spoilers".

>>718998185
No such thing lying piece of nigger

>if a spoiler ruins a book/movie/game for you then it wasn't good to begin with
i want to smack every fucking dork who says this in the face

>>718996396 (OP)
There are only a handful of stories where knowing the end makes it worse.
I knew how The Sopranos ends, still watched all of it and enjoyed it immensely.
Guess it boils down to whether you're someone who likes surprises or someone who doesn't.

>>718996396 (OP)
That sucks but it's no big deal. Plot twists in a vacuum don't matter. How they play out and how it relates to the overall writing is far more important. Execution is everything.

If it's something I actually REALLY care about, like new Deltarune chapters or the next Madoka Magica movie, I literally just shut off the internet until I play/watch it. I pulled an all-nighter playing Deltarune Chapter 3 and 4 when it came out (and replaying Chapter 3 when I realized I obviously missed something, without a guide)
If Madoka movie 4 releases in Japan first and there's like a few month window between the Japanese release and the American release, I will fly to Japan to see it before /a/ can spoil me.

>>719003836
what if it's a detective story? or any other kind of mystery?

>>719004137
That's a very case by case idea, there's only so much wiggle room between something like
>Patrick betrays Bob
And
>Patrick fucking dies
One of those would affect the execution a lot more than the other with prior notice

>>718996396 (OP)
>play RE8
>friend keeps calling Ethan "Moldy Ethan"
>think nothing of it
>the big "twist" happens
>I'm not surprised at all because I just assumed he's been moldified once he entered the mold-pod in 7
>it just turns out to happen earlier, no big deal
>friend was internally freaking out up until that point because he thought he actually spoiled that shit for me
lol
lmao

>>719004235
>something I actually REALLY care about, like the next Madoka Magica movie
that's fucking adorable anon

>>718998993
BASED sergeant. total capeslopfag death. what branch? were you a lackland chad?

>>719004235
>new Deltarune chapters
gay and cringe
>the next Madoka Magica movie
straight and based
you average out to a 5/10

>>718998824
This exact same thing happened to me like ten years ago. I never finished the game after I got spoiled. It was the first game I decided to do an evil run because the bitch at the beginning was a complete ass, but then I heard the spoiler and lost all motivation to play.

I beat the second game and loved it.

>>718999724
can't really remember cause I'm not a marvel fan
but it went on for a solid 5 minutes
buddies around me either started screaming to out-noise what he was saying or put their hands over their ears
couple guys walked away, the reactions were wild for such a trivial thing
the formation broke in the first minute, we got fucked up for that later too

>>718996396 (OP)
>how do these people exist
I'm sorry, but your friend is a nigger.
>It's an intellectual capacity. You cannot consider someone else's wants, needs, priorities, feelings, and experiences if you can't imagine those things. If other humans, and their minds, are a black box to you, then you have no idea how to act to avoid making them angry. You cannot be pro-social if you cannot pass the Breakfast Test. And if it's impossible, or even difficult, for you to imagine other people's state of mind, then you get in the habit of not caring, because it's too much work. Bluetooth speaker people neither know nor care that others don't want to hear what they think of as music. Or smell their smoke. So, when someone says "shut that off", they think that someone is being rude to them for no reason. That they are being disrespected. They simply cannot imagine that they were rude first. And when they become belligerent, and someone summons the police, it feels like all of society is against them. Here they were, just enjoying their music at 11 and their herbal remedies for stress, and now someone in a uniform is tasing them.

>>719004790
jesus that's way more than just casually dropping "tony stark dies" or something
also that's actually pretty creative discipline training

>>718996396 (OP)
>sucker punch him in the noggin
>>>"why are you hurt? Just shrug off, I don't feel your pain, so I don't know why you do"

Literally "But I Did Have Breakfast" reasoning IQ.

>>718996396 (OP)
Kevin Spacey is Keyser Söze

>>718996396 (OP)
you should just tell them not to spoil the plot, i never do anyway but some people i talk about things like movies or tv series tell me that.

>>718996396 (OP)
>how do these people exist, am I stupid for caring about spoilers so much? I couldn't play bioshock at all once I was spoiled about the would you rather thing, I couldn't explain why I was so pissed
Unironically the game probably is cooler when you know about it

>>719004305
Same goes for them. The answer to Life is Strange: True Colors’ mystery is completely retarded and drags the entire game down, though this doesn’t really matter if you get spoiled on it or not

>>719005167
>mention what im interested in
>"oh did you hear about blah blah blah-oooh sorry I thought you knew already!"

>keep quiet about what I'm enjoying
>overhear massive spoilers
>"oh sorry, why didn't you tell us you were watching it, we didn't know"

I have had both cases happen to me, a few times for the former and countless fucking times for the latter
there's no winning

>>718999102
>If it's old enough it's accepted that it's already part of the larger general knowledge and that you're not entitled to have it unspoiled.
This is easily one of the top 3 most retarded comments in the thread. I know your favorite e-celebs will sometimes sarcastically spout "oh yeah spoilers for a 20 year-old thing" like it's your fault for not having watched it yet or been aware of the spoilers, but not every person on the planet has had the time or knowledge to watch everything under the sun up until 2 years ago. Nobody is "entitled" to have something unspoiled, but you're still a magnificent cunt if you spoil something for someone else. Eat shit and die.

>>718998993
>it's the journey that matters
Because "the journey" often times makes it clear that a lot of the enjoyment comes from your lack of knowledge on what happens next.
>Play/watch mystery game/movie
>90% of the book is the detectives gathering clues and thinking through "Gee who is the culprit here?"
>Some dick spoils it for you before you started.
>You spend 80% of the book just wading through what has now become time wasting.

>B-b-b-buh avenges is an action movie!
Don't be retarded kid. The emotional scenes don't hit as hard even in these cases. You have removed enjoyment from the movie.

>B-bu-bu-buh you can still enjoy it on a rewatch!
Even if it's that kind of movie where knowing the spoiler adds something, you've still removed the enjoyment of the first watch entirely. You took away at least 50% of the enjoyment.

If you're about the age of 16 and care about things like this you need to kill yourself

>>719005462
There is winning. Explain loud and clear that you are still watching/playing/reading it and don't want to hear any spoilers. Add where you are at, to be extra careful.

>>718996396 (OP)
if I'm excited for a game I don't even watch the trailers for it, maybe I just crave that experience of seeing everything for the first time too much, I have a friend who will look up the entire plot of a game or a movie online before playing/watching it because "i want to see if its worth my time"

>>719005050
>some guy on /pol/ said he did a study
>look inside
>no documentation on it despite this requiring a not-insignificant level of funding and being a paper that would get published given the implied setting
Why do people go on the internet and lie

>>719006625
It reaffirms my worldview. Why would I doubt it?

>>718999202
>very observant people can pick up clues and determine this plot twist before the reveal
yes, and that's fun to do, so don't fucking steal that from people.

>>718996396 (OP)
your friend did a shitty thing. That's all

I'm more upset when people spoil game mechanics for me.
I find it much more satisfying to figure stuff out on my own.

>>719006625
How would you feel if the source was provided to you?

I don't really give a shit about spoilers.
Sure, it's fascinating playing Hundred Line without spoilers and finding out all the routes happen in a post-game time travel scenario, but what I liked was the characters and smaller events.
When I read Higurashi, I was spoiled on Rika being a time looper, Takano being the villain, and the cause being a brain disease, but I still liked it. Similar to Umineko, where I already knew Shannon and Kanon were Beatrice.

Adjacent to this, I don't think not knowing the time janny twist would've made me enjoy FF7R, since every post-FF7 piece of FF7 media has sucked ass, and the remake wasn't going to be any different (and hadn't been even ignoring that twist).
Generally, spoilers only matter if you're engaging with something a banal, basic level wherein you only consume plot developments. I can hardly imagine deciding to not read JoJo Part 7 because you find out that Dio uses The World and beats Johnny in the last stretch of the race, or refusing to read the Akagi series because you know Akagi commits suicide at the end. Stuff like that.

Oh man, guess I can't read One Piece because Ace dies, or finish watching the Gundam Hathaway movies because Hathaway gets publicly executed at the end, or finish Silent Hill 2 because James killed his wife, or read the Danganronpa series because it's all fiction, and so on and so on.

>>719007331
I probably wouldn't think it is as completely retarded as I initially assumed I suppose.
And no, linking a guy on /pol/ saying shit is not a "source". The post implies academic research was done for an academic study that would've been submitted and then published.

>>718996396 (OP)
Its just narcissism, your "friend" is a narcissist and you should cut them out of your life

>>719007418
I don't have source either, but I am genuinely curious about why you would assume it's "completely retarded." I feel like almost everyone I've known has run into at least one person who actually unironically fails the BQ test. Like I've known a guy that I used to work as a fry cook with, and he had difficulties with hypothetical conditionals all the time. I'd ask him "hey what if you were this guy in this movie?" and he'd always just answer really dumb shit like "man if I were him I'd just shoot them you know" and I'd have to remind him "But the guy was unarmed and took a stance against weapons," and he'd just be like "nah bro, I'd shoot them."

I just find it weird you wouldn't have ANY experience that lines up with these people.

People that don't understand why people don't like spoilers are narcissisticpsychopathic (cant feel empathy/dulled emotions)
basically emotionally retarded

They dont emotionally engage with media, so they cant understand you emotionally engaging with media
They dont understand they have taken an emotional moment from you by spoiling something, because that same moment for them would not be emotional

>>718996680
Depends on the game with some games heavily relying on their story while in others story might as well not exist

>>719007695
>but I am genuinely curious about why you would assume it's "completely retarded."
I read the full post and it's essentially just an exercise in confirmation bias, wherein all the undesirable prisoners (i.e., blacks and some Mexicans) are 100% retarded and always reacted the same way, shit like that.
That and the post describes the scenario in ways in which wouldn't happen under an actual academic setting.
>I just find it weird you wouldn't have ANY experience that lines up with these people.
I guess you're a massive retard as well.
My point is that the /pol/ posts in question refer to an academic thesis of some kind, which has not been published anywhere despite the anon's insistence on how significant and interesting it is and the value of it corresponding to his class.
My point is that it doesn't exist. This isn't about "I've never met anyone like this in real life", it's just that the person in question is lying about doing all the things they've claimed to have done.

And of course, people who are probably in the depths of mediocrity when it comes to intelligence, blindly believe it and then quote the posts ad nauseum, like they've made some sort of salient point, when in reality they've admitted to being incredibly gullible when it comes to things that conform to their own biases. It's incredibly embarrassing to witness that part of it all.

lmao

>>718996396 (OP)
you're being tricked by a marketing machine to stake too much importance on FOMO shock value

>>718996396 (OP)
Your friend is probably autistic or he's got sub 90 IQ

>>718999259
I watched FightClub on TV watching the ending first.

>>718996396 (OP)
nostalgia fags trying to relive Snape kills Dumbledore

>>718998993
>get a bit too rowdy after lights out
>officer comes in and puts us all in a plank
>starts giving us a review on Witcher TV and Mandalorian

I like getting spoiled. I know I'm too fucking lazy to watch a movie or some shitty sports game or play thru an entire game unless it's a 10/10 experience, so I ask people to tell me who dies, what the plot twist is or what the score was. Quick rundowns like that.
They don't even find it weird when I ask them.
I even asked astrologists, tarot card readers and mental health professional pros to spoil it for me if I'll ever get a gf. Tell me my future, nigga, I'm too lazy to forge it myself.

>>718996396 (OP)
4chan reads plot summaries on Wiki before they play or watch anything
Personally I don't get it, watching a story play out naturally is the fun of it.

I understand the theory behind hating getting spoilered, but in my experience, everytime I get spoilered myself all I can think of is "How the fuck did that even happen", which kinda makes me want to watch even more.
Of course, I do my best to avoid getting spoilered but that's all but impossible in the current year +10.

>>718998824
Your enjoyment of something is scientifically increased the more you know about it
So he did you a favour, retard

>>719006220
I will never understand """"""people"""" who doesn't peel off the energy bullshit chart from their fucking screens.

>>718996396 (OP)
if you look up "optimal" ways to play then it's the same thing

>>719008049
Not that anon but honestly I think it's still interesting even if the poster in the image is lying.

While you can claim the poster is lying, what they're saying fundamentally makes sense. You surely know that there are humans who are mentally retarded/low IQ to the point of not being able to function (Ex. Unable to speak), and you know that there are "Normal" humans that are fully capable of intelligent thought and speaking. Therefore, there must be a middle ground where there are humans who are capable of speech but lack the ability for critical thought in some way.

Now is that statistical cutoff for that critical reasoning 90 IQ like the poster said? That's something you can be skeptical about. It could be 80IQ, 70IQ, etc. Maybe the anon is lying out of his teeth.

However it still brings light to the idea of a concept that most intelligent people wouldn't even think about. Now hopefully you're capable of understanding hypothetical questions, but that's an ability I have always taken for granted and never put much thought into it. However that post has brought this idea to light and I feel like I am smarter for it, even if the numbers are not fully trustworthy.

>>719010408
>While you can claim the poster is lying, what they're saying fundamentally makes sense.
God you're fucking retarded.
It "fundamentally makes sense" because it agrees with things you already believe.
You're a gullible idiot who would believe anything so long as it conforms to whatever existing worldviews you have. You're a prole, a dead eyed, brainless moron who lets other people think for you, and those other people tell you how smart you are for doing that.

Read an actual book one day. Not 4chan posts talking about how smart they are, read an actual fucking book, read an actual academic study (and not just the abstract), read fucking anything.

>>719010660
Damn anon, I hope you get your anger issues checked out. I heard from another poster that there's a strong correlation between getting unreasonably upset and having a low IQ.

>>719010961
The concept of this probably terrifies you.

>>718996396 (OP)
> I don't care about spoilers so I don't know why you do"
This is a major red flag in human relations.

>>718996396 (OP)
I have a friend that spoils the whole game with video essays and lore explanations before he even boots the game. I don't mean things like buildscor secret items, literally just the story. He still plays the games, but why not experience the story for yourself before hand? Spoilers just don't seem to matter to some people. Vidya plots are hardly worth it to be fair.

>>718996680
SNAPE KILLS DUMBLEDORE

>>718996396 (OP)
If a game or any story in general relies so heavily on a some gay twist that ruins the entire experience if you know it beforehand, then it sucks.

>>719010660
>read an actual academic study
Lmao the irony.

>>718998824
There's a drop off time for spoilers, fag. It's like the big reveal in Star Wars that Darth Vader is Luke's father or that Bruce Willis is a ghost in Sixth Sense. Even if you've never seen either movie before it's not considered spoilers because it's widely considered that everyone knows about it. KOTOR falls in that category.

>>718998185
It's called foreshadowing pleb

>>719014617
>the irony
A guy making ten posts worth of greentext isn't academic.

>>718996396 (OP)
I went to "The Sixth Sense" to movie theater back in 1999. My brother, who was in the cinema before me, told me there is a great twist but he won´t spoil it. I met a friend at the theater, we sat together, and just before the movie started, he said in a cheerful voice something like - my sister told me all about it! It´s a great movie and it turns out Bruce Willis is a ghost!

>>718996396 (OP)
spoilers don't usually bother me because knowing one plot point doesn't tell me how events unfolded to get to that point.

other people have different tolerances and i do my best to respect that, i'm usually pretty good about not spoiling major things but sometimes i accidentally spoil minor things because it doesn't occur to me that it might bother someone. in that case if they complain, it's like, sorry you feel that way but i don't really feel that bad in this situation. i'll try not to but i'm not going to lose sleep over it.

>>719015272
That is precisely what academia is.
What you meant to say was Scientific.

>>718999102
it's one thing if it's two people just randomly talking about an old game but if his friend knew he was playing it for the first time his friend was being negligent in spoiling that

Spoilers never bothered me, even for books. Sometimes they even make me more interested in the story, like "oh, how do we get to that point?"

>>719016280
No, it isn't. It is if you're treating academia and academic studies as meaningless terms, but what that greentext was was more akin to fanfiction. At best, on par with a the sparknotes adaptation of a Greek travel log narrative.

>>718996396 (OP)
People are stupid. If no one cares about spoilers why did they gleefully bring up at all? People have a legitimate problem just experiencing shit. The same people who buy a strategy guide when they buy the game or spoil the story before deciding to watch something or ask for best builds before even trying a game out. A fucking fear to not actually experience anything new in any capacity because otherwise they're in the UNKNOWN.

>>719016526
Only because you don't trust the peers.

>>719009565
This is some hard cope.
>>718998993
Gigabased. I heard a story about a Drill Sergeant doing the same thing for Harry Potter 7 when some autist started secretly sending his friend the story pages in the mail. I don't know how they avoided getting caught right away. Apparently he had some fun too and started mixing truths with made up stuff like Hagrid dying, Dumbledore faking his death and coming back for the final battle, and Ron getting cucked by Harry and ending up with Hermione. And that last one apparently made some bitch cry out in formation and got everyone smoked... this was Fort Jackson if you wonder how someone like that even got past day one in Basic. There was more stuff but I legit cannot remember all the changes because the buddy who told me all this when we were trading stories was drunk and so was I but it was fucking hilarious apparently.

>>719015359
Spoilers aren't spoilers for M Whatchamcallim's movies. All you need to do is try to picture the most retarded and nonsensical plot twist you can possibly think of and you've already figured out what the twist is going to be and you already know how the movie is going to end

>>719016852
Be more funny if the DI smoked the unit by making them run while singing a cadence composed of spoilers about every character who dies in the Harry Potter series

>>718996396 (OP)
>people ask me how a movie was
>I always end up telling them plot details
>they get mad and go away in a huff
If you didn't want to be spoiled, you shouldn't have asked.

>>719017623
You're a dick. You're just supposed to say "It was good" or "it was bad".

>>719017479
Thats a good one. But the idea they spent months thinking Ron got cucked and Hagrid died and looking forward to Dumbledore coming back to life is just chef's kiss. Imagine the disappointment/shock when they finally found out.