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Anonymous No.718997362 >>718997783 >>718999023 >>718999168 >>719000310 >>719000887 >>719001358 >>719002832 >>719003172 >>719003681 >>719004624 >>719004781 >>719007507 >>719008420 >>719008939 >>719009352 >>719010847 >>719013237 >>719013345 >>719014458 >>719018945 >>719019092 >>719029505 >>719029581
What's the point of having "physical" releases that are basically just a key to download a game?
Anonymous No.718997783 >>718997970 >>718999331 >>719003525 >>719008776 >>719010515 >>719028047
>>718997362 (OP)
The point is to finally kill physical releases.
Anonymous No.718997859 >>718998005 >>719000853 >>719003212 >>719011458
>mandatory preservation
Damn Japan is based.
>nintendo circumvents this with key-card jew shit
Damn Nintendo is cringe.
Anonymous No.718997970 >>718998643 >>719000013
>>718997783
Isn't it wasteful to make physical media in the internet age?
Anonymous No.718998005 >>719018887
>>718997859
It's gonna be fuckin' hilarious when the NDL breathes down Nintendo's neck in a threatening, intimidating and dark manner and give them no fucking alternatives but to be pro-game preservation. And when they are? That's when Shuntaro "EUjew Pokefaggot" Furukawa and Doug "EAfag DEIjew" Bowser are gonna get thrown the fuck out lmao.
Anonymous No.718998643
>>718997970
No?
Also, it doesn't seems fair how it makes them save a lot in distribution without making games cheaper.
Anonymous No.718998952 >>718999150
Because it's cheaper to download 30gb than it is to make 30gb of nand memory
It also gives Nintendo more control since they're leading a totally locked down and monopolistic operation, you can't manage the files, you can't pirate or crack, they control everything and so you're relying on their download servers and they undoubtedly can brick individual key cards
Anonymous No.718999023 >>719000217
>>718997362 (OP)
Physicalfags are so fucking whiny that at this point I believe ilthe reactions would be better if instead of key cards those games were digital only
Anonymous No.718999150 >>718999341 >>719014171
>>718998952
Are you under the impression that key cards are cloud games?
Anonymous No.718999168 >>718999310 >>719015080
>>718997362 (OP)
The Switch 2 is so hilariously locked and anti consumer. I don't think I will ever get it no matter how many Switch 2 games appear that I want unless it gets hacked wide open.
Anonymous No.718999231 >>718999330 >>719009787 >>719014707 >>719017045
game key cards and digital games will outlive physical cartriges. that's just a fact. nintendo will never shut down the download servers, even wii games can still be downloaded.
Anonymous No.718999310
>>718999168
>making people pay for games is anti consumer
>it will get hacked any day now!!!
it will never get hacked. people said it would be hacked in like 2 weeks. the switch 2 hacking scene is basically completely dead and lost all hope.
Anonymous No.718999330 >>718999378 >>718999587
>>718999231
More like roms will outlive both. Probably even after the apocalypse they will find harddrives with full rom sets still intact.
Anonymous No.718999331 >>718999451 >>719001260
>>718997783
This. What they want to happen is for people to start buying digital out of spite for key cards. Tricking people into doing what Nintendo want, but making them think it was their own idea. I guess it's basically Goldilocks pricing but about the service rather than the cost.
Anonymous No.718999341 >>718999415
>>718999150
Where do you think you're downloading them from?
Anonymous No.718999378 >>718999521
>>718999330
>but they will hack it!!!!! just two more weeks bro!!!!
Anonymous No.718999415 >>718999742
>>718999341
That's not the point you retard, what you're saying also applies to regular download only games and that never stopped piracy
Anonymous No.718999451 >>718999936
>>718999331
then why did they release all their own games physically, you retarded faggot?
Anonymous No.718999505 >>718999712
Nigger they've been able to brick your shit since the wii
Enough with this stupid fucking "physical" games bullshit.
Legalize suing Sony Nintendo and Microcock for bricking your shit.
Anonymous No.718999521 >>718999623
>>718999378
Aliens will reverse engineer the roms and develop a perfect emulator. The console is fucking irrelevant, only the game data matters.
Anonymous No.718999587 >>719000351 >>719002981
>>718999330
This is exactly why I don't take preservation fags seriously, Nintendo will keep the download servers up for a long time and by the time they decide to turn it off the games would've been have been long dumped and probably already emulating perfectly on PC, what they should be fighting against are cloud games but weirdly enough I never saw any campaign against those, it's either Nintendo or getting mad at some shitty GaaS filed with micro transactions going offline
Anonymous No.718999623 >>718999736 >>719002943 >>719013871
>>718999521
it's impossible to decrypt you schizo vaccinated retard faggot. there is no possible technology that could ever exist that could break nintendos security.
Anonymous No.718999712 >>718999886
>>718999505
They literally never bricked shit, and the EULA isn't even about Nintendo bricking consoles for hacking, just that they aren't responsible for you hacked console getting fucked by some new firmware update, something that has always happened with any hacked console and that's why the number one rule has always been to never update the console before it's safe to do it
Anonymous No.718999736 >>719000010
>>718999623
Just sit your tranny ass down and wait patiently.
Anonymous No.718999742 >>718999897 >>719000010
>>718999415
Nintendo piracy comes years down the line and at no point have I mentioned that this was an anti piracy move
It's an anti freedom move, now they have all the telemetry as to which hardware downloads which keycards and they need to do it off their servers
It's centralising everything even harder
Anonymous No.718999886 >>718999968
>>718999712
The first sentence in is a bold faced fucking lie.
Why in the fuck would you even remotely expect anyone to entertain you further?
Anonymous No.718999897 >>719000152
>>718999742
damn just like any other console and DRM storefront on PC, key-cards aren't doing anything new other than allowing to share digital games, you're schizoing over nothing
Anonymous No.718999936
>>718999451
Because people will complain if they do a too sudden change and stocks will drop.
Remember that crazy Xbox release anouncement more than 10 years ago?
Anonymous No.718999968 >>719000064
>>718999886
Feel free to point any example of them bricking consoles, even hacked consoles that fucked up downloading firmware updates only temporarily lose the ability to run pirated games until someone drop a fix, the only cases of consoles bricking are people messing up during the hacking process, which has nothing to do with Nintendo
Anonymous No.719000010 >>719000074 >>719013924
>>718999736
>>718999742
>just two more weeks!!!!!!!
cope
Anonymous No.719000013 >>719000504
>>718997970
Why would it be wasteful?
Anonymous No.719000064 >>719000254
>>718999968
Nigger the wii is literally infamous for it.
Basically ALL the warnings about doing homebrew "bricking" your wii was Nintendo monitoring for it rather than any software problem.
Fucking
New Soup Wii would quietly write a file onto your wii accusing you of piracy if you had a scratched disk.
Anonymous No.719000074 >>719000226
>>719000010
Even if shit happens people keep repeating this two more weeks retard meme endlessly anyway.
Anonymous No.719000152 >>719000185
>>718999897
Like any other console? Yes, they're not exactly bastions of freedom
Like PC? No
You have steam rips, torrents, repacks, can make your own steamless copies with goldberg etc
And you actually control what happens with the os and what files you can have
There's no bricking your hardware into offline mode
Anonymous No.719000185 >>719000249 >>719000387
>>719000152
>You have steam rips, torrents, repacks, can make your own steamless copies with goldberg etc
Thats piracy just like on consoles, this isn't steam giving you any extra freedom
Anonymous No.719000217
>>718999023
well yeah, a digital release means the chance i'll buy it drops to just a fraction. and if LRG or someone else makes a print i'll happily pay $60 plus tip for a game that was free on PSN. not about to advocate for this position tho, i know well i'm part of a minority with too much cash on hand.
Anonymous No.719000226 >>719000315 >>719004062
>>719000074
the switch 2 hacking scene is basically dead already. i follow some hacking discord servers and there is no progress being made at all. people are just used to being able to get nintendo games for free, eventually reality will sink in for you thieving lowlifes that you can't have things for free, you are not entitled to other people's work.
Anonymous No.719000249 >>719000335
>>719000185
>someone drawing a circle around you with chalk and telling you to stay in it is not more freedom than them putting you in high security prison and putting you in chains
Absolute retard.
Anonymous No.719000254 >>719000705
>>719000064
Oh you're a literal schizo, nevermind then
Anonymous No.719000310 >>719000436
>>718997362 (OP)
The point is to boil the frogs into giving Nintendo complete and total control over the console and games and what anyone is allowed to do with them at any given time.
Anonymous No.719000312
What's the point of buying from steam if you only own a license for those games? People seem to be okay with that but not when Nintendo does something similar.
Anonymous No.719000315 >>719000436
>>719000226
Lil bro, the best hacker currently working on it will not be some tranny hanging out in discord. It will be just some random guy doing it for fun.
Anonymous No.719000335 >>719000475
>>719000249
That just means it's easier to pirate, and it isn't even consistently easy otherwise no one would seethe about denuvo
Anonymous No.719000351 >>719000535
>>718999587
>>what they should be fighting against are cloud games but weirdly enough I never saw any campaign against those
>Ignoring the fact that stadia, a console entirely built on cloud gaming, died as quickly as it did because of that
You don’t see people rallying against it because it’s so fucking obviously shit that it goes without saying and people reject it by default. Meanwhile it’s nintendo pushing for fake physical media, so yea i’m sure that’s of more pressing concern than something no one even bothers with. It’s like complaining about why no one focuses on the criminals on the street and are obsessed with ceo’s who will burn the world if it meant they could make a quick buck. It’s because we all agree the criminals are bad but it’s the ceo’s who go unpunished
Anonymous No.719000387
>>719000185
Consoles need to be JAILbroken and that takes years
I pirated the dog shit oblivion remaster literally day one
Console piracy is a fraction as powerful and requires actual hardware manipulation
Besides steam can't police you and they're even moving away from even being able to with their Linux advancements
Consoles are moving closer to total control
Anonymous No.719000436 >>719004062
>>719000315
and they will fail anyway because the switch 2 is unhackable.
>>719000310
>it's ok when valve does it though
Anonymous No.719000475 >>719000534
>>719000335
Yes easier to pirate means more freedom. It's that simple. And to make it clear, it means universal more freedom for everyone, not just pirates.
Anonymous No.719000504 >>719000748
>>719000013
Producing custom-format high-capacity sd-cards when you can use existing internet channels to deliver game data to customers. To me this seems wasteful, but I'm not arguing.
Anonymous No.719000534 >>719000649 >>719000843
>>719000475
>freedom is when i can steal things and get away with it! same with hope and justice! it's not that i just want free stuff i swear!
Anonymous No.719000535
>>719000351
Stadia died because Google was a fucking retard charging full price for cloud only games that didn't even worked that well consistently, and despite that you still had a lot of paid shills making videos about how it worked flawlessly for them and how great it was, many of those who are now making daily videos shitting on Nintendo, the amount of doomposting about a full on cloud console where you have literally 0 control over your games wasn't anywhere even near what were seeing for the key-cards
Anonymous No.719000649 >>719000714 >>719001710
>>719000534
Take denuvo for example. You need internet access to get a token to play your game. That automatically means that they have put more restrictions to paying customers. That token can get invalidated by a lot of things so if you plan to play the game offline for a while since you are travelling you can lose access easily. Not to mention that poorly implemented denuvo can have a performance hit.

If you don't acknowledge this point you are honestly just a massive shitposter.
Anonymous No.719000705
>>719000254
No you fucking dumbass, New Soup Wii would check the burst cutting area and a damaged disk COULD pass the initial check but fail a subsequent one setting off its antipiracy which places a file on your system that can be found while connecting online.
Anonymous No.719000714 >>719000943
>>719000649
what does that have to do with nintendo?
Anonymous No.719000743
I love how when you speak against modding consoles for piracy the piratefags would jump at you saying how modding consoles isn't about piracy actually and something something useful homebrews, but as soon as a console don't allow them to play games for free they always start foaming from their mouths about how evil the company is, at least now with the Switch 2 they stopped pretending that their goal is only playing games for free
Anonymous No.719000748 >>719006420 >>719006754
>>719000504
It's more wasteful to have internet access and servers running 24/7 than it is to produce a product in one large batch.
Anonymous No.719000843 >>719000942
>>719000534
Freedom is when being nice and offering a good service determines whether you're a paying customer, yes
Nintendo has no incentive to improve anything, their studios are enslaved into exclusivity, they can charge exorbitant prices for mediocre outdated hardware and force game sales to all be routed through their servers
Thanks for playing fool
Anonymous No.719000853
>>718997859
>>nintendo circumvents this with key-card jew shit
Reading comprehension, games released on key cards aren't eligible meaning games that aren't will be. That would mean Nintendo isn't circumventing it but rather third parties are.
Anonymous No.719000887
>>718997362 (OP)
>digital game gets preserved
>not digital keycode
?? I'm going to stop reading these reaction-begging social media headline threads from now on.
Anonymous No.719000942 >>719001027
>>719000843
>good service is allowing pirates to play the game for free!
actually that hurts paying customers. it means the devs have less money to develop good games. go play indie pixelslop brotato and binding of isaac because you don't deserve to play nintendo games.
Anonymous No.719000943 >>719001139
>>719000714
The point was made that less restrictive piracy protection doesn't give the consumer more freedom, which is just plainly wrong as demonstrated.
Anonymous No.719001027 >>719015134
>>719000942
Good service is making quality shit where the customer isn't driven by spite
Anonymous No.719001139 >>719001226 >>719001392 >>719001510 >>719001836
>>719000943
I don't like paying for a game and then piratefags get it for free and even have access to mods. That disincentivises me to pay for the game and encourages me to pirate instead. if everyone did, it would no longer make sense for the studio to develop the game and then no one would get to play it. this is a very simple concept and why stealing was outlawed thousands of years ago in religious texts, if thievery is easy and accepted it is not possible to have a society and we will devolve into tribes like africans.
Anonymous No.719001226 >>719001318
>>719001139
You pay for a game because you liked it and want to pay the developers for your good time
Anonymous No.719001260
>>718999331
Nintendo doesn't care if people buy pure digital. What they want here is to have their cake and eat it too. All the control they have over digital with all the retail presence of physical releases.
Anonymous No.719001318 >>719001549
>>719001226
yeah i go to restaurants and eat food, but only pay if i want to. i'm sure that's a sustainable business model.
Anonymous No.719001358 >>719001640
>>718997362 (OP)
You can lend or sell it.
Otherwise it would be just a code in the box.
Anonymous No.719001392 >>719001509
>>719001139
I know 4chan retards will seethe at this argument but what if someone was born in a less fortunate place than you and they would never in their life be able to experience playing a game if not for piracy. Of course you don't give a single fuck because only you deserve to live good in your eyes and everyone living in less fortunate regions is a subhuman to you.
Anonymous No.719001509 >>719002321
>>719001392
I wouldn't be so judgemental about it if piratefags weren't so morally self righteous about it coming up with ridiculous arguments about how moral they are for pirating games and they are on some kind of crusade for consumer rights. But literally all of them seem to do that instead of just admitting they want shit for free.
Anonymous No.719001510 >>719001998
>>719001139
>P-p-piracy is theft!
It's literally not. Look up the legal definition of theft and the legal definition of piracy. They are different.
Anonymous No.719001549
>>719001318
Copying and sending files across the web costs basically nothing
Piracy literally does not affect game sales anyway, go look up one of the dozen studies on this
And why the fuck are you identifying with the side you're not actually on? Does it really hurt you to see the consumer have more options? Also what a great admission that piracy is actually way better on pc
Anonymous No.719001640
>>719001358
Nintendo is undoubtedly waiting for the key cards to catch on so that they can limit how many consoles can reuse the key card
Anonymous No.719001710 >>719001791 >>719001945 >>719001958
>>719000649
This is still objectively not "Steam" or any other hardware platform *giving* you more freedom than Nintendo. The Switch 1 platform uses the exact same operating system as the Switch 2 platform does, but your ability to dump system keys and by extension decrypt game binaries doesn't mean Nintendo was more benevolent then, than they are now. Steam is not more benevolent either, they deploy DRM on every purchase and allow publishers or game developers to ship games with their own DRM. Just because the community has mobilized to defeat these protections doesn't erase what the companies' intentions were with enabling them, and it's idiotic to pretend that companies have your best interests in mind when they still utilize DRM in the first place.
Anonymous No.719001791
>>719001710
>This is still objectively not "Steam" or any other hardware platform *giving* you more freedom than Nintendo
Steam lets you add pirated games/software to your steam launcher.
How is that "not more freedom, objectively"? Be specific.
Anonymous No.719001836 >>719002098 >>719002694
>>719001139
Gay Ben literally already solved this problem and told everyone else how to as well. Nintendo are just assholes who have a massive stick up their ass over anything and everything that doesn't align perfectly with their extremely rigid corporate worldview. They can only get away with it because they go so far in the opposite direction and take advantage of the lowest common denominator who don't know any better. But now they're positioned far, far worse than Valve is, with far more risk involved.
Anonymous No.719001872 >>719004392 >>719010643 >>719018132 >>719023713
>Steam kills physical games on PC in 2001
>OMFG SO BASED NOW I CAN BUY GAMES THAT GO ON SALE FOR 50% LWOER PRICE AFTER JUST 5 YEARS

>Microsoft/Sony kills physical games on consoles with driverless versions ANMD selling games with a downloadcode
>OMFG SO BASED THE CONSOLE IS CHEAPER

>Third-Party developers dont use cartridges on Switch 2 and just offer a SD-card that actually can be resold BUT you have to download the content
>NINTENDO IS FUCKING SHIT!!!!!! FUCKING GREEDY JAPANESE PIGS I WISH HIROSHIMA WOULD HAPPEN DAILY

This thread is shit and you guys are retarded
Anonymous No.719001945 >>719002386
>>719001710
>benevolent
Who gives a fuck you corporate dick sucker. More freedom is more freedom. No one cares how hard you cope about your favorite company being benevolent and not seeing you as a subhuman.
Anonymous No.719001958 >>719002386
>>719001710
That's pc as a platform giving you more freedom than Nintendo because it's not a cucked toy OS where you only access the uppermost layer with big tard friendly guis
Anonymous No.719001998 >>719002063
>>719001510
I just explained why it is immoral in the first place you fucking retard. because it means the people who produce things can't profit from it, and therefore they won't produce things anymore and all of society suffers as a result. That concept applies to piracy and thievery in exactly the same way.
Anonymous No.719002063 >>719002173
>>719001998
I didn't comment about that.
I said you incorrectly called piracy "theft", which isn't correct.
Anonymous No.719002098 >>719002689
>>719001836
>gay ben solved the problem by doing exactly what nintendo does now but even more obtrusively and they have been doing it for decades, but their games are worse so now i care because nintendo is also starting to do it!!
ok
Anonymous No.719002173 >>719002289
>>719002063
>arguing over semantics
kys
Anonymous No.719002176
none.
just get it on pc at that point.
Anonymous No.719002248
>BBBBUT MUH STEAM
Yes, and only pcbros defended it. Don't tell me that you're pcbro tier tendie-kun...
Anonymous No.719002289 >>719002609
>>719002173
I'm not arguing, I'm correct. There's nothing to argue about.
Stop using words incorrectly.
Anonymous No.719002321 >>719002463 >>719007571
>>719001509
That's on nintendo and other corps for being absolutely dogshit with preservation and actual ownership over games on modern relevant systems people actually use on top of all the other console abuses. Instead they often just leaving games behind to rot every generation so they can make you rebuy whatever ones they make available again. They could end pirate moralfagging overnight if they weren't cunts.
Anonymous No.719002386 >>719004603
>>719001945
I am arguing that neither corporation is benevolent nor are they your friend. You shouldn't dickride Valve just because community efforts make their platform easier to take control of. Learn how to read.
>>719001958
This anon is right. I don't want to incorrectly attribute triumphs enabled by the nature of PC and community efforts to companies that don't deserve it.
Anonymous No.719002463 >>719002748
>>719002321
you can still play the games on the old console though, thirdie. you are not entitled to the developer time it takes to make a port.
Anonymous No.719002609 >>719002669
>>719002289
i explained why it's morally equivalent. but you have no argument except semantics. how sad.
Anonymous No.719002669 >>719003039
>>719002609
>Uses words wrong
>Gets upset
What's wrong anon? Why are you crying?
Anonymous No.719002689 >>719003039
>>719002098
PC is nothing like console. It has none of the downsides digital on console does and I'm tired of consolefags desperately trying to pretend otherwise to deflect away from their shitty situation so can justify to themselves to keep supporting it.
Anonymous No.719002694 >>719003039
>>719001836
yeah, piracy really is a service issue. with steam you have free cloud saves, free online, and achievements. i don't care about achievements but a lot of people do and they'll buy their games instead of pirating them because of the achievements.

nintendo's ecosystem is lacking and now that they added paid voice chat it's a fucking joke. no achievements, paid online, paid cloud saves(that they will delete if you don't stay subbed forever) and paid voice chat. you have to be actually retarded to make nintendo's ecosystem your go to choice to play games. even xbox and playstaiton aren't charging for voice chat and you can use discord as a multiplatform voice chat everywhere but on nintendo's platform. everyone else can play crossplatform games in crossplatform voice chat but if you're a switch 2 only gamer then you're there all by yourself or being the loser on phone discord that everyone hates because you don't use push to talk.
Anonymous No.719002748 >>719003039
>>719002463
Or I can just emulate because their 'service' is dogshit.
Anonymous No.719002832
>>718997362 (OP)
>"physical" releases that don't contain the game
tramplying over your rights
curbing piracy (dump a game -> get banned -> can't buy and dump any more games. limited storage space and no backup ability, so you can't dump your entire collection in one go without redownloading)
pirates are the real chads though. they get all the games locally without any DRM cuckery
Anonymous No.719002943
>>718999623
that never happened before :^)
Anonymous No.719002981 >>719003653 >>719003718
>>718999587
>Nintendo will keep the download servers up for a long time and by the time they decide to turn it off the games would've been have been long dumped and probably already emulating perfectly on PC
nintendo would rather their games were lost to time than risk any filthy goyim dumping a single game.
>what they should be fighting against are cloud games
everyone hates those you stupid black-and-white brain. no one bought into stadia precisely because of this
>I never saw any campaign against those
what the fuck do you think stopkillinggames is you smooth-brained whataboutist monkey
Anonymous No.719003039 >>719003135 >>719003384 >>719003998
>>719002748
you can't emulate switch 2 because it is unhackable and always will be.
>>719002694
nope and you can't pirate new nintendo games anymore just because you think you should be able to. have fun playing binding of isaac and brotato on your giant brick.
>>719002689
there are no downsides to digital switch games.
>>719002669
>can't argue the actual point being made so relies on semantics
jew tactic
Anonymous No.719003135
>>719003039
Why are you so upset?
Just stop using words incorrectly. Stop acting like a retard.
Anonymous No.719003172 >>719003539
>>718997362 (OP)
now i can sell the key
or buy it "used"
that's pretty much it
Anonymous No.719003212 >>719011458
>>718997859
>nintendo circumvents this with key-card jew shit
But all Nintendo first-party games are fully included in the cart. As usual, direct your autistic anger to third parties choosing the cheaper option.
Anonymous No.719003384
>>719003039
>you can't emulate switch 2 because it is unhackable and always will be.
lol
lmao
Anonymous No.719003525
>>718997783
Nah, they're trying to have their cake and eat it too (store presence + penny pinching profit margins that appeal to third parties). It's not working, obviously.
Anonymous No.719003539 >>719003605 >>719003694 >>719003876 >>719003924
>>719003172
>buy used "game" key card
>get banned despite not pirating because it turns out someone had dumped the game associated to it
what's the next step in your master plan
Anonymous No.719003605 >>719003649
>>719003539
>Get unbanned within the day because you own the physical cart
What's the issue exactly?
Anonymous No.719003649 >>719003698
>>719003605
nintendo doesn't unban systems. you're lying pirate scum
Anonymous No.719003653
>>719002981
>nintendo would rather their games were lost to time than risk any filthy goyim dumping a single game.
I don't care about what Nintendo wants, it's not up to them if people will dump the roms and it's going to happen regardless
Anonymous No.719003681
>>718997362 (OP)
All first-party Nintendo games are full games on the cartridge.
You can play the third-party games on more powerful hardware like the PS5, Xbox, or PC.
Anonymous No.719003694
>>719003539
nice headcanon
let me know when it can actually happen
>inb4 og switch
cool story
Anonymous No.719003698 >>719003843
>>719003649
>nintendo doesn't unban systems
They literally do. Sorry.
If you think otherwise, please prove your claim to be true.
Anonymous No.719003718 >>719003921
>>719002981
>what the fuck do you think stopkillinggames is you smooth-brained whataboutist monkey
A campaign about keeping live service and gacha garbage alive from everything I've seen
Anonymous No.719003843 >>719003894
>>719003698
>they do
proofs?
plenty of stories of people who got banned for "piracy" and never got unbanned
Anonymous No.719003876 >>719004015
>>719003539
ironically game-key cards are the literal least likely thing on the secondhand market to get you banned. actual game cards get you banned because they have unique certs on the card and don't use the console itself for any form of verification aside from checking whether the game is legitimate. digital games do, and because of this, it's impossible to put a dumped digital game on a cartridge, and you can't run dumped digital games without disabling signature checks on the OS level.
Anonymous No.719003894 >>719004015
>>719003843
Sure, I'll prove my claim when you prove yours.
I did ask first, so it's only fair.
Go ahead, I have my proof ready.
Anonymous No.719003921 >>719004014
>>719003718
>stopkillinggames was about keeping gacha alive
least disingenuous tendie cunt
it's a campaign to ensure games remain playable even if publisher cunts pull the plug on the server to take the money and run
Anonymous No.719003924 >>719004239
>>719003539
Getting banned for buying used games only happens because of the migfags, and when people alerted about this you retards called them bootlickers, also they can do it with any cartridge, not only key-cards
Anonymous No.719003998
>>719003039
Reeks of bait.
Anonymous No.719004014 >>719004148
>>719003921
>even if publisher cunts pull the plug on the server
Which has never happened with digital games, which is why every time the stopkillinggames crowd has to give an example of what they're fighting against they mention some live service garbage or gacha
Anonymous No.719004015 >>719004139 >>719004227 >>719005001
>>719003876
>actual game cards get you banned because they have unique certs on the card
you're really fucking stupid if you think the DRM carts don't have certs on the cart itself
>>719003894
you presented no proof that they unban people
there are plenty of stories floating around of people who got burned in the secondhand market. prove to me a single case where a person banned for "piracy" got unbanned
Anonymous No.719004062
>>719000436
>>719000226
post scale + timestamp
Anonymous No.719004139 >>719004314
>>719004015
>you presented no proof that they unban people
I know, because you presented no proof that they ban people.
Like I said, you go first. Because I asked first and because you made the claim first.
Don't be scared, if you're correct, win. It should be easy for you. We're all waiting on you.
Anonymous No.719004148 >>719004239 >>719004297
>>719004014
>Which has never happened with digital games
you taking the piss you fucking retard tendie cocksucker?
just to drive the point home. remember dragalia lost? of course you don't because you're a double-faced pea-brained bootlicker with the memory of goldfish
Anonymous No.719004227
>>719004015
The very same person from the first viral story about Nintendo banning people who bought used games got unbanned after contacting support and providing proof of ownership, the Facebook market guy
Anonymous No.719004239 >>719004314
>>719003924
>migfags
not the consumer's fault
stop screwing over your loyal customers. you're worse than EA, blizzard, and keurig combined
>>719004148
they ban people for using dumped carts. this is an indisputable fact. now tell me of a case where a person who got banned had the ban overturned
Anonymous No.719004297
>>719004148
>Remember *gacha game*?
Thanks for proving my point
Anonymous No.719004314 >>719004357
>>719004239
meant to quote >>719004139
Anonymous No.719004357
>>719004314
Why haven't you posted any proof yet anon?
Like I've said twice now, I can't post until you verify your claims.
Go ahead.
Anonymous No.719004392 >>719004580 >>719004630
>>719001872
>Steam kills physical games on PC in 2001
>OMFG SO BASED NOW I CAN BUY GAMES THAT GO ON SALE FOR 50% LWOER PRICE AFTER JUST 5 YEARS
How fucking new are you? EVERYONE shat on Valve for forcing their Steam back then.
Anonymous No.719004404
The point is that most gamers are tech illiterate.
They lack the comprehension of technology to such a degree that they can't fathom how something they can physically hold, can essentially be locked from them. How can something in their hands be taken away without taking it from their hands?
Anonymous No.719004580
>>719004392
And nowadays not even they don't give a fuck about it, but they also immediately jump to mentioning it as the better option against whatever consoles are doing, so yeah no one cares
Anonymous No.719004603
>>719002386
valve does deserve credit by making the drm paper thin and advertising that it is
and the linux work they're doing too, everything they're doing is completely free
Anonymous No.719004624 >>719005387
>>718997362 (OP)
It's to appease third parties. Third parties hate Nintendo because they charge out the ass for proprietary meme storage on top of the 30% cut from every sale. Key carts are an attempt to meet them halfway and guarantee some level of third party support however shitty and anticonsumer
Anonymous No.719004630 >>719004713 >>719004726
>>719004392
>PC vegans invented digital games
You PC vegans are to blame for everything. Stop blaming Nintendo for the hellscape you created yourselves.
Anonymous No.719004713
>>719004630
digital games are not inherently bad by any stretch
what's bad is when they're entirely routed through a corporation that entered an arms race with piracy and has centralised all its services
Anonymous No.719004726 >>719010726
>>719004630
>pc invented digital games
ENTER
tendiecucks remain ignorant of history as always
Anonymous No.719004781
>>718997362 (OP)
GOOD, give them all the shit they can get so this crap goes away. They already did a survey on it so they're aware nobody likes them except for the 3 snoys on /v/ le trolling the survey.
Anonymous No.719005001 >>719005281
>>719004015
that's not my point even remotely. the certs on game-key cards are unique, but their only function is to be used as a secondary decryption key for a digital game binary (the console itself being the primary decryptor). if you were to dump the game associated with a game-key card (as was mentioned in the original post) you'd just be dumping that very digital game binary which can't be put on a reproduction cart for the reasons i described. even if your goal was to reproduce the function of the game-key itself rather than dumping whatever content it downloads, it's more likely to act like a previously redeemed download code or function normally than it would be to get your console banned. dumped game cards trigger bans because two cartridge certs are detected as going online at the same time, but a game key just tells your console that you bought the game, and everything else is handled on the system once it's downloaded.
Anonymous No.719005281 >>719010017
>>719005001
>a game key just tells your console that you bought the game
you're not makign sense. computers don't understand concepts like "bought the game."
>you'd just be dumping that very digital game binary which can't be put on a reproduction cart
you'd use a flashcart or just install the dump to the system moron
>their only function is to be used as a secondary decryption key for a digital game binary
>(the console itself being the primary decryptor)
>primary decryptor
you're fucking tech-illiterate holy shit. you know jack shit about game encryption
the cart is just a shitty cert that lets you download a game. it contains no decryption hardware because that would drive up costs moron
Anonymous No.719005387 >>719007791
>>719004624
Third parties already had the download code option that doesn't require buying any storage, key cards are literally a compromise thinking about the players so they at least get the option to share and resell their games, which are of the biggest downsides with digital games
Anonymous No.719006420 >>719007337
>>719000748
Because people wouldn't be using the internet otherwise, retard-san.
Anonymous No.719006754 >>719006936 >>719007337
>>719000748
go look up the costs of file hosting and then look up the cost of buying storage media and come back
Anonymous No.719006936 >>719007314
>>719006754
>datacenters are free goy
>monthly fees don't add up to a new hdd over the course of a year
the sheer amount of retardation in display is astounding
Anonymous No.719007314 >>719007401
>>719006936
making the physical storage medium for a game and paying for the supply chain is magnitudes more expensive than just putting that file up and letting people download it
Anonymous No.719007337 >>719008061
>>719006420
>>719006754
>No sources
>expects others to belive him
Lol
Anonymous No.719007401 >>719008061
>>719007314
>making the physical storage medium for a game and paying for the supply chain is magnitudes more expensive than just putting that file up and letting people download it
You'll need to provide evidence to support your claim.
Go ahead, I'm happy to wait to see this.
Anonymous No.719007507
>>718997362 (OP)
Good to know even the Japanese government is outright admitting that Nintendo games are just slop barely worth preserving
Anonymous No.719007571
>>719002321
this, pirates having moral highground is a mark of just how fucking bad the industry has become. if they stopped being so jewish, pirates would stop being in the right.
Anonymous No.719007791 >>719010301 >>719012914
>>719005387
>Third parties already had the download code option that doesn't require buying any storage, key cards are literally a compromise thinking about the players so they at least get the option to share and resell their games, which are of the biggest downsides with digital games
Good luck trying to make this understand to the average gaijin too busy to hate on Nintendo, while most of them have already long embraced digital in other platforms. Sometimes I swear the western Internet is nothing more than a sea of cattle unable of properly thinking for themselves, just parroting whatever their grifter overlords told them to.
Anonymous No.719008061 >>719008352
>>719007337
>>719007401
https://azure.microsoft.com/en-gb/pricing/details/storage/files/
now go look at the prices of cds and dvds and flash drives and compare
you could divide their prices by ten and it still wouldn't come close to matching the prices of digital distribution
Anonymous No.719008352 >>719008702
>>719008061
You still haven't proven your claim to be true.
Why not? Can't do it?
Anonymous No.719008420
>>718997362 (OP)
There is no point to the consumer
Anonymous No.719008702 >>719008848
>>719008352
what claim retard? i linked you the fucking microsoft azure pricing? what more do you need to see?
do you think having to print all the fucking plastic, putting all the game data on storage and then circulating it all across the world is capable of financially competing with two people paying for internet access? think about it retard
you can easily transfer files to someone on the other side of the world via torrents and you pay nothing extra for it
now try buying storage and physically sending that data
Anonymous No.719008776 >>719009024
>>718997783
They want to kill second had market. So yeah
Anonymous No.719008848 >>719008884
>>719008702
You still haven't proven which is more expensive.
Why not?
Anonymous No.719008884 >>719009072
>>719008848
i guess you're too stupid and ideologically committed to understand occam's razor
Anonymous No.719008939
>>718997362 (OP)
To be able to resell your "physical" (digital) releases, since you otherwise can't do that.
Anonymous No.719009024
>>719008776
>they want to kill the second hand market by creating a format where you can sell digital games to the second hand market (instead of being tied to download codes)
Anonymous No.719009072 >>719009564
>>719008884
Why are you getting upset? Just prove your claim to be true.

It's not my fault you can't do it.
Anonymous No.719009352 >>719009536 >>719009547
>>718997362 (OP)
For publishers, reduced costs. For consumers, they are licenses that can be transferred, unlike digital games tied to your account.
In any case, it's inferior to actual data being present for preservation reasons.
Anonymous No.719009536
>>719009352
>In any case, it's inferior to actual data being present for preservation reasons.
You forgot the important case that games nowadays are rarely complete within a disc or cartridge in the long term, due of patches, updates and DLCs.
Actual preservation at this point is just to dump the entire thing into your computer then hard drive, it barely matters if a game is originally shipped as digital or physical.
Anonymous No.719009547
>>719009352
SHUT UP GOY. YOU WILL RE-BUY YOUR GAMES EVERY GENERATION
Anonymous No.719009564 >>719009835
>>719009072
alright retard
how much do you pay for internet and what's your upload bandwidth
Anonymous No.719009768 >>719009821
you did this by pirating everything nintendo for decades
you fucking did this
Anonymous No.719009787
>>718999231
>this for-profit company will never shut down because uhh..reasons
Short-sighted fool
Anonymous No.719009821
>>719009768
the only "people" that claim piracy impacts sales are the denuvo scum
Anonymous No.719009835 >>719009908
>>719009564
I'll answer you once you prove your claim to be true.
Go ahead, do it in your next reply.
Anonymous No.719009908 >>719010093
>>719009835
i'm using your numbers specifically to prove how it's cheaper
you clearly need an example that you can relate with because you don't understand the global distribution network
Anonymous No.719010017 >>719010096
>>719005281
>computers don't understand concepts like "bought the game"
>the cart is just a shitty cert that lets you download a game
are you daft? i didn't fucking say the game-key card has "decryption hardware" (not that that would have ANY impact on costs whatsoever) we're talking about locks and keys. i said it acts as a "decryptor" because the game's decryption key is on the cartridge. why do you think games downloaded via game-key can be booted offline? why do you think those same games cannot be booted unless the game-key is inserted into the system? how do you think any form of DRM works at all, and what purpose do you believe DRM serves? how did you even expect game-keys to be resold in the first place, if all they did was prompt downloads and nothing else?? why do you think it's called a game-KEY anyways???
>you'd use a flashcart or just install the dump to the system
flashcarts can only run physical cartridge dumps, not digital dumps. digital dumps can't be installed onto a system without custom firmware, nor can they be played online. the only situation where you're going to be able to play a pirated game online is if you dump a physical cartridge along with its unique certs, and having duplicates of those certs going online is what causes bans.
Anonymous No.719010093 >>719011037
>>719009908
>No proof
>Again
If you can't prove your claim to be true, without my help, then you are confirming you can not do it.
I'll give you one more chance to prove your claims to be true, but if you don't do it in your next post I'll be forced to accept your concession.
Go ahead.
Anonymous No.719010096 >>719010567
>>719010017
>locks and keys
stopped reading there
you're in way over your head sweaty
I hope one day you'll stop being retarded
Anonymous No.719010301
>>719007791
>majority of people are nothing more than a sea of cattle unable of properly thinking for themselves, just parroting whatever their grifter overlords told them to.
Fixed you.
Anonymous No.719010515
>>718997783
FPBP
Physical games cut into margins, that's why every single big publisher is trying its hardest to kill it. But they know that removing the option entirely would cause huge backlash, so they do these purposefully awful compromises, like game-key cards and Sony selling disc drives as separate add-ons for the PS5 Pro. It's meant to be frustrating and an added obstacle, because they just want you to give up and buy digitally.

Buying digital means much more restrictive return policies, games being locked to your account (and selling your account is against TOS), zero cost of physical production and distribution, no used games market whatsoever, and less competition. To get the game, you must go through their platform with their set prices. And they want it to seem like the "convenient" option because they purposefully make the physical option as unappealing as possible, so people give up and normalize buying a license in their walled garden.

And the sad as fuck part is that it's working. You see people criticize game-key cards, and their solution is that they are just gonna buy digital for everything from now on. Congrats, you did exactly what Nintendo wanted to do. Consumers will gladly sign away their rights because the option of not buying the game in the first place doesn't exist in their mind. And publishers take advantage of this laziness and weaponize it against physical.
Anonymous No.719010567 >>719010645
>>719010096
>says something woefully incorrect
>doubles down on his dumbfuckery
>pretends to be le epic retard ragebaiter
masterful play, i'll accept your concession at the front door.
Anonymous No.719010643
>>719001872
Physical on PC was already going to shit before Steam showed up
Anonymous No.719010645 >>719011001
>>719010567
>i'll accept your concession
A generic npc response.
Anonymous No.719010726
>>719004726
Sega also had same thing.
Anonymous No.719010847
>>718997362 (OP)
Tendies will buy it anyways
Anonymous No.719011001 >>719011064 >>719013319
>>719010645
>devoid of any form of intellect, creativity or prose so he defaults to calling me an npc
wow, you're practically conceding to me already, anon! i didn't take you for the straightforward type.
Anonymous No.719011037 >>719011258 >>719011313
>>719010093
fine, i'll assume you're a random californian city sóycuck since that's what you tendies tend to be
at&t's worst value fibre plan has 300mbps or 37MB/s of symmetrical data for $55
what does that get you in physical storage? not even a 2TB HDD
let's assume we're transferring between two entites with this inefficient data deal so that's $110 and we'll give you a 4TB drive
two computers with that fibre will transfer that shit in two minutes
think about it retard
it would be faster and cheaper for you to transfer that data directly than it would be to buy a drive to transfer it even if you were fucking neighbours and then on top of that you have that fast internet for 30 days minus two fucking minutes
Anonymous No.719011064
>>719011001
dumb npc cope
Anonymous No.719011258 >>719011461
>>719011037
You didn't prove a single one of your claims to be true for the 5th time in a row.
Concession accepted. Thanks for confirming you could not do it.
Anonymous No.719011313
>>719011037
actually my bad, that's 30 hours not two minutes, forgot to change the units
the neighbour analogy fails but it still holds for literally any transfer that involves literally any sort of distance and it's still the worst case scenario
Anonymous No.719011458 >>719011907
>>718997859
spbp
>>719003212
retard. nintendo should not offer key cards, nor key in a box
Anonymous No.719011461 >>719011526
>>719011258
i've proven that transferring files over the internet is much more cost and time efficient than physically doing it and that's still giving physical the best case scenario and digital the worst
Anonymous No.719011526 >>719011613
>>719011461
>i've proven
You've literally proven nothing.
Not. One. Thing.
You've made yet more claims, and substantiated 0% of them with verifiable facts.
Anonymous No.719011613 >>719011652
>>719011526
alright retard, here's a picture
if this doesn't convey it nothing will
Anonymous No.719011652 >>719011841
>>719011613
And you think this proves...what, exactly?
Be specific.
Anonymous No.719011841 >>719011876
>>719011652
it proves that carrying digital data is much cheaper?
the left is a second hand hdd, literally the most cost efficient physical storage there can be, that nets you 4tb of data and it needs to be physically carried around to where it's being used
for the same price the right can carry 97TB
Anonymous No.719011876 >>719012162
>>719011841
>it proves that carrying digital data is much cheaper?
It doesn't. You just keep pretending that it does.
Concession accepted, one last time.
Anonymous No.719011907
>>719011458
If they don't offer one of them, third parties just won't sell on ninty hardware. AAAs have been trying to kill physical for a long ass time and all's nintendo has done is provide a way for some of the benefits of physical to exist on digital only games.
It's the same as Japan't birthrate crisis. The whole first world has a birthrate crisis, but Japan was the first to try (and mostly fail) to find a solution, therefore being subject to mockery from countries who just pretend there is no problem.
Anonymous No.719011931
Are there people still defending game key cards? Fuck off already even JAPAN says they aren't proper physical releases
Anonymous No.719012162 >>719012313
>>719011876
alright retard, spell out the exact proof you need to get your disgusting maw sewn shut then
i've posted corporate hosting fees, i've posted customer file transfer fees, it appears that nothing is getting through and you want specific data in mind
Anonymous No.719012313 >>719012497
>>719012162
I've already accepted your concession. It's too late, you've already lost.
You had a million chances to prove your claims to be true, and you couldn't do it even once.
Anonymous No.719012497 >>719012578 >>719017139
>>719012313
you belong on reddit fucking hell, upload your library for free karma
you came here to huff farts about how good physical is and you refuse to even set terms to get yourself bucked off that gay high horse of yours
Anonymous No.719012578 >>719012801
>>719012497
Why are you so upset? If you didn't want to lose, why didn't you prove your claims to be true?
>you came here to huff farts about how good physical is
Where did I say anything of the sort? Quote the exact post.
You won't, because you can't.
Anonymous No.719012801 >>719012881
>>719012578
you're the one that refuses to lose lmao
you're the one on the defensive that refuses to even lay out your fucking terms
i've shown how it's cheaper to transfer files over the internet for both the common man and the corpos
you can look at the circumstances of how steam lets hundreds of thousands of garbage games languish on their servers while physical shovelware is dying out and pretend that it's somehow cheaper to stay physical
Anonymous No.719012881 >>719012998
>>719012801
>He can't prove his own claims to be true
>He can't quote posts
You can't win. I already accepted your concession.
Why are you crying? You chose to lose, not me. I wanted you to win, but you couldn't do it, even when I gave you multiple chances.
Anonymous No.719012914 >>719016386 >>719016670
>>719007791
Nintendo deserves to be hated.
Anonymous No.719012998 >>719013082
>>719012881
let's turn this around
find me one ounce of proof that just uploading your file to a server and letting people download it is more expensive than involving the manufacturing and retail industry and shipping your shit all over the world
surely someone as staunch as you with such high standards for evidence has some solid proof of it? you're not just bullshitting?
Anonymous No.719013082 >>719013179
>>719012998
>"P-p-pwease prove my own claims for me..."
lol no.
You already lost. I already accepted your concession.
It's time to move on, crybaby.
Anonymous No.719013179 >>719013246
>>719013082
>i get to be extremely discriminatory and picky over what constitutes a counterargument while refusing to even try to prove my point
Anonymous No.719013237 >>719013694
>>718997362 (OP)
The point is to make sure you don't actually own what you paid for.
Anonymous No.719013246 >>719013409
>>719013179
You already lost.
If you didn't want to lose, why didn't you prove your claims to be true?
I gave you over 10 oppertunities to be correct, and you cried and shit yourself over all of them.
Thanks for playing.
Anonymous No.719013319
>>719011001
>taking internet fights this serious
I am not him.
Anonymous No.719013345
>>718997362 (OP)
yes
Anonymous No.719013409 >>719013461
>>719013246
cope all you want
in the end i've proven that digital data transfer costs are much cheaper than physical while you cried and shitted screaming NO NO DOESNT COUNT AAAAAAAAAA and when you're told to do something yourself you pull out this redditor shit out of your arse
your parents are paying for everything you have by the looks of it, you don't understand how the supply chain works
Anonymous No.719013461 >>719013671
>>719013409
>i've proven
Wrong. You've insisted you've proved something, but you posted literally zero proof of your claims ITT.
You already lost.
Anonymous No.719013671 >>719013775
>>719013461
aww look at you, trying to sit on a high horse while holding a contrarian opinion
name ONE reason as to why you think physical could ever possibly be cheaper when internet speeds are only getting faster while the supply chain has been the same cargo containers, carrier planes and trucks for decades
Anonymous No.719013694
>>719013237
But you do?
Anonymous No.719013775 >>719013980
>>719013671
>name ONE reason as to why you think physical could ever possibly be cheaper
Why do you want me to do that?
I never made such a claim. If you think I did, please quote the exact post in your next reply.

Don't be scared, don't cry, just do it.
Anonymous No.719013871
>>718999623
imagine believing this
Anonymous No.719013924
>>719000010
People also said
>two more weeks
For the PS4 and look where we are now. Everybody has played Bloodborne. It's just a matter of time and autism.
Anonymous No.719013980 >>719014043
>>719013775
>Why do you want me to do that?
because if you're denying my point then by extension you're advocating yours? it's a fucking binary
and because you've been shitting yourself and screaming NO NO NO NO NO for i don't know how long?
you don't get to be such a dainty demanding critic without putting yourself on the spot
stop being a pussy, show us how pure and perfect you are and totally not a hypocrite that can't hold up his end of the argument
Anonymous No.719014043 >>719014232
>>719013980
>No quote
Thanks for confirming you couldn't do it
Concession accepted one final time.
Feels good to be the winner!
Anonymous No.719014171 >>719014220 >>719018905
>>718999150
>2050
>wanna play the retro DK Bananza (The only game ever released for the console)
>insert card in the formatted console I bought for 2500 New World Credits
>moshiwakegozaimazen okyakusama omae ga kono game wo downloado dekinai prease andasutando
It effectively is.
Anonymous No.719014220 >>719014286 >>719014404
>>719014171
Bananza didn't release on a Key Card tho
Anonymous No.719014232 >>719014306
>>719014043
if you think screaming in denial counts as winning then i hope you don't have any friends that have to be tormented by your existence
you have impossibly high standards for the opposition and nonexistent ones for yourself, i've been trying to hammer your retardation for several posts while you with your high horse aren't even trying to prove me wrong
Anonymous No.719014286
>>719014220
Not the point
Anonymous No.719014306 >>719014371
>>719014232
>Loses argument
>Keeps replying
>Keeps crying
Cute.
Please, reply more!
Anonymous No.719014371 >>719014450
>>719014306
your definition of loss requires reexamining
hopefully by a medical professional that can dig through your skull
Anonymous No.719014404 >>719018601
>>719014220
Any updates effectively were.
Anonymous No.719014450 >>719014865
>>719014371
Thanks for replying again.
Sorry you couldn't prove even 1 (one) of your points to be correct. It seems to have really upset you that I won (and you lost).
Anonymous No.719014458
>>718997362 (OP)
Supar Mario
Anonymous No.719014707
>>718999231
>game key cards and digital games will outlive physical cartriges. that's just a fact.

Very False
Anonymous No.719014865 >>719014940
>>719014450
you couldn't prove even one of my posts was incorrect while not being able to field any arguments from your side
consumer data transfer is objectively cheaper digitally than physically and it only gets cheaper with distance
meanwhile physical only gets more expensive when you turn it from moving a hard drive around to less price efficient storage and you have to pay the entire supply chain for distribution
Anonymous No.719014940 >>719015071
>>719014865
And why should I, the consumer, care about Nintendo's costs? It's not like any savings are going to the final price tags.
Anonymous No.719015071 >>719015224
>>719014940
time is money
time spent driving to game shops or waiting for the physical copy of the same data is money
Anonymous No.719015080
>>718999168
>I have to buy something?!
>WTF this is so anti consumer!!!
Anonymous No.719015134 >>719015180
>>719001027
Is that why the Switch 2 boycott failed?
Anonymous No.719015180 >>719015579
>>719015134
nintendo customer base has been thoroughly enslaved within the last 10 years
Anonymous No.719015224 >>719015238
>>719015071
I can get it delivered to my doorstep bro.
Anonymous No.719015238 >>719015328
>>719015224
>or waiting for the physical copy of the same data
Anonymous No.719015328 >>719015432
>>719015238
But I'm not losing a cent sitting in my chair waging while it gets to my door?
Anonymous No.719015432 >>719015597
>>719015328
waiting isn't losing anything?
Anonymous No.719015579 >>719015962 >>719016062
>>719015180
So why did the Wii U flop?
Anonymous No.719015597 >>719015660
>>719015432
I'm doing something else, not sitting on a chair by the door waiting for the mailman to ring.
Anonymous No.719015660 >>719015768
>>719015597
>i'm not losing anything by resigning myself to a secondary activity
Anonymous No.719015768
>>719015660
Dude I'm on /v/ videogames are not my main interest.
Anonymous No.719015962 >>719018421 >>719022837
>>719015579
why is the switch 2 succeeding despite it also being a mediocre piece of hardware that only serves to be a bing bing wahoo machine with a shitty launch lineup?
Anonymous No.719016062
>>719015579
That was more than 10 years ago.
Anonymous No.719016386 >>719016737
>>719012914
>Nintendo deserves to be hated.
I absolute loathe fags who hate Nintendo, not because they're being meanies to a game company, but because they prove themselves most often to be despicable human beings who jeopardize things such as unlicensed emulation (since they want to broadcoast how much self-righteous they are).
Anonymous No.719016670 >>719018523
>>719012914

>Nintendo deserves to be hated.
I got some bad news for you
Anonymous No.719016737 >>719017117
>>719016386
nintendo themselves know that piracy doesn't impact sales
they could have the optics if they just ignored them, the switch's success has drastically increased the amount of subservient cattle they have
expecting a bunch of random people with no common ground to keep their nose to the pavement is stupid when you're comparing it to a corpo which measures and calculates their responses
they chose to chase something this insignificant when they could've looked better ignoring it
Anonymous No.719017045
>>718999231
If im a new user i cant get to play those download only games on their consoles when the systems are not supportet like DSI.3DS.Wii.WiiU. So yeah thats bad.
Anonymous No.719017117 >>719017447
>>719016737
It sure didn't stop the Internet fags who turned their entire lifestyle into wanting to "hurt Nintendo" and thus made sure that everyone knew they're downloading a Switch emulator and the latest games. The fact even game journalists were bold enough to advertise it was the cherry on the top, it stopped to be "insignificant" thanks to them.
Anonymous No.719017139
>>719012497
brother well before this point you should have realized you were engaging with a troll and to stop taking the bait
Anonymous No.719017447 >>719017827
>>719017117
the onus is on nintendo to not respond to being pricked when they're wearing a fully loaded bulletproof vest
they provide the opportunity to hate them
no one would give a shit if they just implied
>don't like our ecosystem? fine, fuck off, we got our bag already
but instead they're going out and proselytising, showing that they do care
Anonymous No.719017827 >>719018720
>>719017447
lad, any company has the right to protect their copyrighted works from piracy even if it could be deemed as "useless" in the long run. And it's a known fact the Japanese have a zero tolerance to said piracy, not just Nintendo.
Just like you're free to download for free, just don't virtue-signal about it, even less on social media.
This whole "they deserve to be hated because they're denying my human right to get shit for free" is the most stupid take and something I expect from third-world niggers
Anonymous No.719018132
>>719001872
>>Steam kills physical games on PC in 2001
Good morning SAR.
Anonymous No.719018421
>>719015962
So far it's following the PS5 model of just being an upgrade to a successful console, and even then third party sales have collapsed completely.
Anonymous No.719018523
>>719016670
Nintendo's original business was prostitution and gambling btw.
Anonymous No.719018601 >>719018845
>>719014404
That means 99% of physical games nowadays are digital then, so complaining about key cards is pointless
Anonymous No.719018720 >>719019212
>>719017827
yeah, sure they have the right to chase ghosts
and the public has the right to shit on them for being petty and vindictive
piracy doesn't hurt their profits, without emulation people that hate their games would rather not play their games at all than be forced into their ecosystem
why are you expecting a loose collection of people with no common values and no immediate incentive or punishment to police themselves?
people don't hate them because they're not letting them play shit for free, they hate them for trying to force everyone to be funneled into their garbage hardware
they're making more enemies fighting piracy than they are allowing it
personally i've gone from not giving a shit to actively wanting some government to go on a vendetta against them and force them to be multiplat or tell their emulation busting to fuck off
Anonymous No.719018845 >>719019016
>>719018601
>so complaining about key cards is pointless
no it's not. The Switch only has 512 GB and to expand another 512 with an SD card is $80. If the game is on the cart it takes up way less space. You can only fit a few key card games on the system
Anonymous No.719018887
>>718998005
But Nintendo's exclusives are still releasing properly on cartridge, it's the third parties that would get caught out by that that are using game key cards.
Anonymous No.719018905 >>719029563
>>719014171
So you believe that in 25 years the redownload servers will be completely dead? Let's wait then to see if in 6 years they'll turn off the Wii ones
Anonymous No.719018945
>>718997362 (OP)
Stopped caring about physical back in late 2000's when I decided to just stick to Steam. Enjoy your disc rot.
Anonymous No.719019016
>>719018845
Good thing that by the time it even has enough worthwhile games released in key-cards to fill the storage microsd express will be dirt cheap
Anonymous No.719019092
>>718997362 (OP)
Cartridge cost. I think CDPR is the only third party so far to actually put the entire game on the cartridge, and they shelled out for the big one.
Anonymous No.719019191
game key-card slop are all third party multiplat releases anyway. just pirate them on PC and don't get it on the switch 2.
Anonymous No.719019212 >>719019650
>>719018720
>me and the few ingrate online autists don't hate them because they're not letting them play shit for free, we hate them for trying to force us to be funneled into their hardware and actually buy the games
ftfy
And Nintendo had to make an example since modern emufags have gotten way too cocky and were willing to destroy decades of unlicensed emulation just to dab at a game company
Anonymous No.719019650 >>719020602
>>719019212
people want to pay for games they enjoy
they don't want to pay for weak specialised hardware whose sole function is to have the loicence to play those games
even those brazillians have a higher chance to shore up their savings and buy nintendo shit if they have something to convince them than if no emulation was there to begin with
nintendo could easily port all their shit or just let emulation be but they insist on being an insular toymaker
Anonymous No.719020602 >>719021572
>>719019650
It's absurdly more common here to buy a modded Switch and pirating the games than emulating, no one cares about the "weak hardware", especially because not everyone has a PC strong enough for that since graphic cards are retardedly expensive here
Anonymous No.719021572 >>719022042
>>719020602
Couldn't the Switch be emulated by GPUs older than the console itself? I think I remember Yuzu listing minimal specs on the 600 series, granted, I have no idea what the fuck they consider "minimal".
Anonymous No.719022042
>>719021572
Rule 1 of emulation is to never trust the poorfag pirates who say they can run it "fine" in their machines
Anonymous No.719022837 >>719023118
>>719015962
Because it's only been about three months yet people are already dooming about it despite the PS5 also having jack shit to play in its first year
Anonymous No.719023118
>>719022837
>in its first year
And second.
And third.
And fourth.
And fifth.
Anonymous No.719023713
>>719001872
problem is that steam,sony and microsoft shit goes on sale all the time and nintendo never puts their shit on sale.
Anonymous No.719025739
you could use them to limit access to coomer games but no coomer game is sold physical so they're a waste of time
Anonymous No.719026403
Have you forgotten? This was not a suggestion, they are working on this constantly and will not stop until you minecraft them
Anonymous No.719028047
>>718997783
fpbp.
Anonymous No.719029505
>>718997362 (OP)
>library
>video games
???
Anonymous No.719029563
>>719018905
Nintendo already shut down the Wii Shop in 2019, and as of this year the 3DS/Wii U eShops are closed too. You're coping hard if you think they’ll hesitate to nuke redownloads once the cost outweighs the PR hit. Give it another 5–10 years and you’ll be lucky if the servers still ping back. They want you on their latest gen hardware and software, period. Preservation isn’t even on their radar unless they can resell it to you at full price.
Anonymous No.719029581
>>718997362 (OP)