Thread 719008550

Imagine a war in heaven souls like where your starting class is one of these angels. You fight normal demon mobs and the bosses are high ranking demons like Leviathan, Azazel, Belial and Asmodeus.

No, anything related to the Bible is sacrilege even if it is promoting it

>>719008550 (OP)
Just play shin megami ten-
>souls like

I vomit.

Hum but sweetie the angels are the bad guys though?

>>719009080
only if you're playing some satanically perverted game (aka 99% of the slop that's ever out there)

>>719008550 (OP)
Impossible mode: No ham-fisted overarching theme where "heaven bad" or "god bad"

>>719009492
its difficult to have a game that shows glory to God and makes heaven the good guys because anyone who truly understands there is a literal Creator to our universe and heaven is a very real place would not try to depict it, make games out of it, especially not in a universe where it can ever be defeated, etc

>>719009492
Considering that the only people making games are either jew-woned communist faggots in teh West and japanese tryhard who still think it's somehow original and thought provoking to depict God as evil, that's all you're ever getting.

It's the Christians' fault for not making their own media. The catholic Church is filthy rich and yet they don't do anything with their money, if the leadership wasnt 120 years old fossils they might have realized that soft power is important, and that making games, movies and TV shows that are actually high quality and promote Christian culture and values would be agood idea.

The only Christians who at least try to make media are the Prots, but it's always low-budget slop with horribly heavy-handed signalling.

>>719009937
the catholic church has been co-opted by jews around 500 years ago, likely longer. there is a reason catholics dont even call themselves christians, it is basically an entirely separate thing from reading the bible and following what the bible says. in fact, and you can look this up yourself, 500 years ago there was something called "the reformation" where the "holy" vatican church tried to burn every bible. they wanted to monopolize the word of God and not have it be accessible except through them (how jewish)

>>719009753
>nyone who truly understands there is a literal Creator to our universe and heaven is a very real place would not try to depict it, make games out of it, especially not in a universe where it can ever be defeated
And there's the problem. Christians refuse to accetp that they live in the real world, so instead of looking at things rationally and taking effective steps to promote their message, they stay in their high tower and watch as the churches run empty.

My country was once the most catholic on earth and now every time I step into a church (even during mass) all I see is a few old women.

>>719010069
>there is a reason catholics dont even call themselves christians
I've been a Catholic for the first 25 years of my life and I've never heard anybody say "we're not Christians actually". But do tell me more about how we're not Christians, while the tranny pastors in America are the TRVE children of God.

>>719010085
the institution of the church has long been co-opted and is full of cryptojews, or pastors trained on the ((schofield bible)) re-written by jews with footnotes saying to praise the nation of israel, etc. we are the church, the living church, the people who try to embody what Christ teaches and have had our hearts transformed by the mercy of the Creator. the word of God does not need spreading, in fact history has shown that persecution only spreads Christianity and every time people try to stifle it, it grows in popularity. it is not just a religion, it is a supernatural faith upheld by the very real Creator of the universe who made this entire existence for us to enjoy. the way you spread word of God is by showing others the peace that comes with a life empowered and transformed by the Creator Himself. sitting here and making hollywood blockbusters about angels and mario-but-in-heaven games would just be a disservice

>>719009937
*jew-owned

>>719008550 (OP)
imagine anon pitching the most bland game idea ever

>>719009351
>>719009080
>satanically perverted
Satan is an angel.

>>719010245
you're strawmanning me and the tranny pastors in america are very far from the truth as well. it doesn't matter what label you put on it, either you know that Yeshua was a real person who walked, lived a perfect life, and died for our sins and changed the world, or you don't. even the bible itself says that there are MANY people who claim to believe, who recite the chants and prayers, but their hearts are far from God. it doesn't matter what you've been or how long you've done it for, but it's just a fact you must accept when i say that the overall institution of the catholic church is incredibly evil. and, well, catholics LITERALLY don't call themselves christians, they call themselves catholics lol

>>719010352
yup, fair enough, a fallen angel who led a rebellion with his fellow angels and created a race of demons on earth called the nephilim which still rule us to this day. it's these nephilim demons that hate humanity, are the ones behind the endless wars, the growing abortions, etc. they worship satan, and of course satan knows God is real, but satans job is to distract us from heaven and God entirely and make us think that they don't exist

>>719009753
You can do things respectfully and with reverence. It's not the most entertaining thing in the world to have absolute good sitting unopposed in a game, that's true. But you don't have to have the most childish script where evil has to either already be in charge or at risk to overthrow EVERYTHING. Maybe there's more nuance to storytelling than that.

note that the eye wheel guys are literally just the actual wheels of the throne, not standalone entities

>>719008550 (OP)
>throne in a Souls game
His whole gameplay must be like
>KEEP ROLLIN' ROLLIN' ROLLIN' ROLLIN' (WHAT)
>KEEP ROLLIN' ROLLIN' ROLLIN' ROLLIN' (COME ON)

>>719011213
Seraphim in souls game be like
>do laser sweep from the eye
>do kamehameha death ray
>and then teleport

>>719008550 (OP)
this but as enemies

>>719010245
Dude, it’s pisspoor ragebait, don’t bother

>>719008824
dantes inferno bros!?

>>719011928
you call it ragebait to denounce what, the "holy" vatican church or catholic teachings? the church literally rapes kids, pushes LGBT and immigration, etc

Itt /v/ pretends to be good Christians while in the next thread over they justify going back to owning slaves and fucking children

>>719012074
no one who follows scripture would be okay with either of those things, you are literally just strawmanning, as in you LITERALLY just made up a scenario in your head, and then assume its the same person doing both of those things, because its much easier to attack for you than reality. nowhere in scripture does it say to fuck children, meanwhile if you read the quran their prophet literally fucks a 9 year old

>>719012074
No one who posts here believes half the shit they say or try to push on others.

>>719012194
I wasn't saying Christians say that. I'm saying the people in this thread will try to moral fag about shit they don't actually believe.
Basically >>719012328
Calm your pussy faggot. No one cares you take communion

>>719008973
spbp

>>719009753
>anyone who truly understands there is a literal Creator to our universe and heaven is a very real place would not try to depict it, make games out of it, especially not in a universe where it can ever be defeated, etc
So what you're saying is that Christfags are boring, oversensitive, and incapable of making art? Explains why Christian rock is so bad

>>719012972
i'm saying there is a literal Creator that made this entire existence, that made your eyes, that made your mouth, that made your brain, that made all the food infinitely grow out of the ground, that made the water fall from the heaven, that created dopamine receptors, that created music, that created fast food, that created literally everything you enjoy. and to try to depict this in some way would honestly be 1. pointless 2. borderline insulting, we do not even deserve to be recognized by the literal Creator of the universe, and yet He wants to be our personal friend and has forgiven us for any and all of the mistakes that we will make in our temporary, confusing experience inside these human bodies. what i'm saying is you're free to pursue creativity in the way that you so choose, but when you understand the Creator more it will come with a fear of the Creator as well, and you realize some boundaries are not meant to be crossed

>>719012972
Christian rock is uniquely bad, even amongst other forms of Christian music. My theory is that lots of other Christian music is good (hymns, gospel music, Christian RnB) because the creators have/had genuine respect for the genre used. Christian rock I feel is mostly approached from the angle of "Kiss and teens like rock, but it's satanic!!! We have to co-opt it if we want their attention!" rather than any desire to actually make rock music

>>719010352
A fallen angel, in other words a demon. Don't play on words.

>>719010540
>>719009753
Just make it a battle for a few people's relationship with God. Not every game has to have cosmic stakes.

>>719008550 (OP)
>War in heaven like diablo
Yes
>souls like
Disgusting

At this point angels being creatures of good with no ulterior intentions would be an actual twist.

>>719013258
Exactly.

>>719013224
Why is Satan still around anyway? Considering that it pains God, a being with a capacity for suffering far beyond our own, to punish those who turn away from Him with damnation and oblivion, you would think he wouldn't abide an angel of His own creation meddling with that fate.

>>719013175
>and to try to depict this in some way would honestly be 1. pointless 2. borderline insulting
John Milton did it 400 years ago with Paradise Lost, you overthinking faggot. You're starting to sound like a fucking Muslim with your irrational abhorrence towards your own scripture being depicted even positively. If God really wants to be our personal friend, I think if anything he'd appreciate being depicted in a kickass hack n slash War in Heaven game, just as I'm sure he appreciated the Last Judgment. Unless you're trying to imply your god is an unreasonable asshole?

>>719008550 (OP)
>different ranks of angels

Huh I've read the bible back & forth but don't remember this???

the book of revelation still scares me though literally the end of the world & everything gets wiped out humans,the planet even the stars

>>719013653
The Bible talks about archangels, seraphim, and ophanim

In 700 years people will be worshipping the DND lore books

>>719013653
Patched lore

>>719013175
>Be ultimate Creator that can never be defeated
>Created your own evil enemies just so you can be amused watching them crash against your gates uselessly
>Refuse to show yourself to your creations for thousands of years to reassure them you exist
>The evil enemies you created (or at least allowed to be created) also take down billions of your other creations with them
>A million different versions of the Official Rules are written by a million different people and mislead billions down the wrong path
>Creator never sets the record straight
>Everyone except the handful of people who happened to guess correctly suffer for all eternity now

Doesn't sound all that loving and benevolent to me.

>>719008550 (OP)
In Nomine already did this in the 90s. Just adapt that into a game, noob.

>>719014279
I can accept the "allowing demons/sinners to exist, because free will" thing. But I think the most absurd thing is how he expects us to believe in him when he provides us with no proof. Literally why? There is literally no logical or ethical reason he couldn't telepathically send each of us a message saying "hey just wanted to let you know I love you :)" It's even more absurd because, supposedly, he openly consorted among his followers in biblical times, yet he's dead silent now. That's pretty fucking unfair, don't you think? Why did they get an unfair advantage when it came to getting into heaven? Of course Moses believed in God. Because he fucking met him

>>719008550 (OP)
Even now in heaven there were angels carrying savage weapons

>>719008824
Christianity wouldn't be withering in the first world if it wasn't full of no fun allowed fags.

>>719014542
>moses met him

WHAT!?

What book you reading m8,he saw a "burning" bush that said it was god for all he knew he was drugged

>>719014542
>It's even more absurd because, supposedly, he openly consorted among his followers in biblical times, yet he's dead silent now. That's pretty fucking unfair, don't you think? Why did they get an unfair advantage when it came to getting into heaven? Of course Moses believed in God. Because he fucking met him

The funny part is that even in the Bible, the people who literally MET God face to face were still going behind his back and worshiping other gods and defying him constantly. What the hell kind of people have balls that big to defy a God you KNOW for a fact exists, or what the hell kind of god can't even scare a bunch of goat herders into compliance from point blank?

>>719015028
Qrd who?

>>719008550 (OP)
Enough with the fucking rollslop. You faggots are too well-fed as it is.

I know someone who is absolutely convinced leviathan is going to show up soon

>>719015507
SCP-169 has breached containment

>>719008550 (OP)
Aren't the three at the top strong enough to level continents or something? Why pick basic ass archangel then

>>719015369
You didn't know about the golden calf, anon?

>>719014808
>for all he knew he was drugged
Same difference back then.
Most of the people who took hallucinogens in ancient times were doing it to have spiritual experiences and commune with higher beings.
I think it's extremely unlikely that Moses or anyone in his place might have assumed what they were experiencing was not genuine.

>>a reverse souls like
>you are the final boss
>you get alerts that Tarnisheds are invading your weakest castle
>send soldiers, take control of the castle boss, or go there yourself in weakened form to deal with it
>manage resources to spawn new soldiers and worker units
>keep the peace as some monsters might get unruly if you let them the Tarnished bonfire respawn them too much while grinding

Power best girl

>>719015028
YHWH in the old testament wasn't the universal god El, just a local deity until he was later rewritten as the only god (You shall inherit all the nations)
It makes a little more sense that the israelites would turn to other deities knowing that, still dumb but slightly more understandable

>>719017392
It makes more sense when you realize that in Hebrew the words "lord" "god", or "el" and "baal" are just titles or honorifics for local rulers and the supernatural stuff is all just romanticizing how they rule by deception and backroom deals with people to be their agents

>>719017663
This one is more relevant

>>719017663
thanks anon

>>719016018
Yes

>>719008550 (OP)
demons are lame af, how I summon a lesser angel?

>>719014542
The point is we're meant to have faith in him. If he shows himself believing is not a matter of faith; we're being tested.

What's the basic template for a Tenno and how to customize them?

kike religions suck and you're going to be punished with eternal nothing after you die

>>719020958
>there are a million hands behind my back. One of them is holding a thing, and if you guess wrong you suffer forever.
>I love you

>>719014542
>no proof
literally just look around and try to come up with answers for yourself.

1. how did life originate from non-life?
this has never ever happened ever and has never been able to be explained or recreated. allegedly the mainstream science says that hundreds of millions of years ago lightning struck a puddle and essentially a bacteria was formed somehow. do you believe this?

2. what is this? what are we?
use your eyes and your brain to investigate things. what are your eyes? mainstream science still can't explain it, it's literal meat connected with wires to your brain, which translates into vision. what is your brain? meat powered by electricity. how does the body get electricity? did you know the human body has over six ways to generate electricity, one of them being your muscles? when you USE your muscles, it literally gives off voltage which powers the rest of your body. you have rechargeable batteries built into you, they recharge when you eat food (protein). its actually an insanely amazingly designed system if you think about it.

3. look around at your environment
where does all the food you've ever eaten from come? every nut, berry, grain, potato, etc just grows out of the ground infinitely. if you dont want to eat it, other animals will and you were given dominion over those animals as well. and you can eat them to get energy from their accumulated life energy. also, the only thing these animals are programmed to do is recreate as much as possible for you to never run out. inside every apple is an apple seed to grow an apple tree so you can have infinite apples. where does all the water you need come from? it falls from the sky, forever

does everything around us that we call existence really lead you to believe it has no logical mind behind it? we're just here for no reason, evolved from monkeys for no reason, born to die on a meaningless speck of dust planet?

>>719020776
they are above you, why do you think you can summon them? you are beneath them in every way. the best you can do is ask for them to show themselves to you

>>719021093
the idea of eternal punishment doesn't come up once in the old testament and every time "hell " is mentioned in scripture it's always in parables or literally reserved for demons. it is not a place where human beings go, many people (billions) who read scripture don't understand how much of the bible is about humans sharing a world with demons that look like humans (descendants of the nephilim; genesis 1:6). the reason God destroys whole nations etc was because they were full of these demons who were sacrificing humans, aborting the youth, eating the children, etc. same stuff that's happening today

>>719008550 (OP)
I want to fight the angels as a demon and then rape their corpses. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR_OhMqiJ_c

>>719008550 (OP)
Throne is the heavy spellcaster class

>>719021243
this is just an atheist take from someone who has no biblical discernment. yes, they invented thousands of religions in order to be able to say "yea there's thousands, 1 cant be true, right?". that doesn't mean one isn't true: the bible (specifically the old testament) is literally the most reliable historical narrative we have, it is a supernatural text that transcends time and tells us about where we are, how we got here, who we are, and how we share the world with demons.

and when you read scripture for yourself it literally says you don't NEED to read it. Yeshua (Jesus) literally makes fun of religious people constantly, saying you don't need to sing or do little rituals in order to please God, and the whole point of this place is "Do good, have fun". unfortunately, the demons we share this earth with (you call them jews) literally killed the incarnation of God and have been trying to hide it for thousands of years.

there is no eternal suffering, hell is just a life where you are so distanced from our God that you don't want to be His friend or go to heaven with Him. we have a very real Creator of this existence, you can LITERALLY pray right now and say "Father in heaven, please reveal yourself to me in some way. please make yourself present in my life, show me a sign that you are real, show me signs in ways that i can interpret" and see what happens

>>719022040
Shut up fag, you'd say the same about hinduism if you were a shitskin.

>>719015028
>>719014542
>John 20:29
>Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

>>719021093
>never seen ghost spirits or bigfoot

The world is much more "mythical" then you've been lend to believe anon

>>719022040
>the bible (specifically the old testament) is literally the most reliable historical narrative we have

Disproven back and forth, the most obvious example is that there is NO evidence Jews were slaves in Egypt then escaped. The Tenach is Jewish historical fanfiction featuring themselves as the main characters and Sumerian cosmology with the serial numbers filed off.

Your modern feel-good perversion of Christianity doesn't even reflect the NT, where Jesus clearly states that works and deeds are needed to get into Heaven, not just "believing", since he tells the rich boy that he needs to sell all his possessions, give the money to the poor, and come preach with him on the road living as a beggar to secure a place in Heaven.

>and see what happens
And if nothing happens? Let me guess, I just uh, wasn't looking hard enough? You're supposed to fool yourself into seeing anything and everything as a "sign". That's the stupid part of the whole thing. You're supposed to BELIEVE to be saved, but nobody can force themselves to believe no matter how much they want to, unless they really are just so low IQ that they can literally gaslight themselves.

>>719022241
except i've read the vedas and studied buddhism, and even buddhists say that Jesus Christ existed and was likely an incarnation of buddha. even the quran acknowledges Jesus as a great prophet. even atheist scholars no longer try to deny there was a real person named Yeshua / Yehoshua / Jesus who had a following of people and changed the world. it's 2025 years after what again?

when you read what Yeshua actually taught though, He makes it abundtantly clear that He is the way and the truth and the life and that everybody on earth will go through Him, because He is literally the mixture between Creator and man

So, is Michael stronger than Lucifer?

>>719022305
Hilarious how the religious always tend to also believe sacrilegious shit like ghosts and goblins.
When people die according to Christianity they get their souls sorted to Heaven or Hell, God doesn't accidentally miss a few to wander around aimlessly. So how the fuck could ghosts and spirits exist for you to see on Earth?

>>719022464
>Your modern feel-good perversion of Christianity doesn't even reflect the NT, where Jesus clearly states that works and deeds are needed to get into Heaven, not just "believing"

lol it is literally said over and over that you do not get through heaven via works. there are no works you can do that make you deserve a spot in heaven, we are wretched humans capable of evil and lying and deceit. we get into heaven through GRACE. "God's" grace. grace is when you are given a gift you do not deserve

>Ephesians 2:8
>For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

>>719022464
what are you expecting lil bro, you are talking to the literal God of the universe. show some respect and humility, He is not your performer, He is not going to come down and incarnate as your best friend and give you the rundown on how this entire creation works. you will meet God when you die anyway. it's not about "gaslighting yourself", it's about there being a real Creator who can and has influenced your already in many ways. all i'm saying is you COULD choose to open your heart earnestly and submit yourself and show humility and ask Him to reveal Himself, or you could not. He respects your free will and wants you to have fun in this cool creation He made for us (that we literally asked to be a part of as per the book of Enoch)

>>719008550 (OP)
The cloth on the dominion looks like it's grabbing his pee-pee and givivng him a handy

>>719022594
>sacrilegious

You literally read about man summoning the dead back from the grave in one account & his response was "bro why did you wake me up"

>>719022594
the idea of "you get sorted into heaven or hell" is basically the depiction other people have about christianity, but that's not how it goes down at all in reality. anyone who calls themselves a christian MUST address genesis 1:6 where it says the angels had sex with human women and created a race of giant men of renown who ended up being worshipped as gods. their descendants rule us today, so anyone who doesn't understand this doesn't REALLY believe the bible is the truth. we share a world with literal demons, they walk and talk like humans but do not have a soul or a moral compass (provided by the soul). demons are talked about in basically all religions for a reason. you've been brainwashed into a materialistic world where only physical matter exists, not understand there is a spiritual realm and a "veil" between you and it for a reason, but the spiritual realm influences us in many ways

>>719022749
I like how you completely sidestepped the part where Jesus tells someone point blank a work he should do if he wants to get into Heaven, even when you quoted it. All you're doing is pointing out how the writing contradicts itself.

>Do this to get into Heaven little dude
>Also you don't have to do anything to get into Heaven :)
>Live by the sword, die by the sword!
>But also I have come bearing a sword :)
>I have not come to abolish the old law
>But also the old law doesn't apply anymore :)

You're convincing no one with your circular logic.
>It's real and you should believe it's real because uh it's real bro

You're doing a poor job if God wants you to save or convert souls. A very poor job indeed.

>>719008550 (OP)
The game exists and its called Blasphemous

>>719022986
>anyone who calls themselves a christian MUST address genesis 1:6
The Old Testament does not apply to Christianity. Are you a Jew?

Most of this angel stuff isn't even in the bible

Can we still call free will real if God literally knows which souls are going to heaven or hell before we're even born? We're just living out our destiny he set us up for.

>>719023032
i am not sidestepping at all, he is literally teaching the kid the way to live a life that pleases our Creator (you cannot love both money and God). show me the part of the scripture where it says "btw if you dont listen to me ur going to hell forever lol". he is teaching because he is our teacher

the story of Yeshua is literally him arguing with jews the entire bible. the pharisees (jews) around him are literally saying "to meet god, you must sacrifice your firstborn! you must have sex in this temple!" they are constantly desecrating the truth and twisting it. Yeshua came down to teach us how to live a perfect life, his sermon on the mound is the core of ethics, he lived and died for us, fulfilled over 300 prophecies, gave us eternal salvation, resurrected from the dead and was seen by over 400 eye witnesses, and it immediately turned 60% of jews into christians, etc. and to this day even atheist scholars cannot reject that He existed.

i dont care about converting you at all, they said the path would be narrow. you dont want to follow the truth, then go ahead and live in a lie

>>719015634
The ocean isn't even deep enough for that thing to fit under the waves, lol

>>719008550 (OP)
remind me which book talk about the cool angels and demons ?

>>719021672
>lightning struck a puddle and essentially a bacteria was formed
The prevailing hypothesis is that primordial Earth's oxygen-free atmosphere contained dense clouds of carbon dioxide, ammonia, and water vapor. Ultraviolet rays are what triggered the formation of organic molecules which would then precipitate down into the oceans. This at least has been proven to be possible by the Miller-Urey experiment. The hypothesis goes on to suggest that these organic molecules continued to be synthesized in vast quantities in the ocean where they collected in high energy environments such as volcanic sea vents, inducing billions of further chemical reactions over as many years. By the virtue of large numbers, some of these chemical reactions produced complex heterotrophic organic molecules which self-replicated. Millions of iterations produced what we would call early life.
>Its actually an insanely amazingly designed system if you think about it
It's actually pretty terribly designed. Take the recurrent laryngeal nerve. It connects your larynx to your brain, allowing you to control the muscles and make vocalizations. If it were "amazingly designed" it would be 5-8 inches long, but it isn't. You see, the recurrent laryngeal nerve actually travels DOWN, loops through the aortic arch, and THEN goes back up to the brain, making it about two feet longer than it has to be, for no reason.
And that's just in humans. All vertebrate animals have this nerve. In giraffes, it's FIFTEEN feet long.
Evolution would suggest that this arrangement is the result of giraffes and humans both evolving from a common ancestor, a fish-like creature where the nerve traveled a much more direct path from the brain, past the heart, to the gills. However if God designed it that way, what does that suggest? That God is terrible at cable management, apparently.

>>719023227
We have free will, God just sits back and observes and lets us do whatever we want.
But also he has a perfect master plan that we cannot know.
But also you can pray for him to make adjustments to his perfect master plan for you. To make it even more perfect.
Also evil is going to rule the world for a long time for some reason and make everyone suffer, he thought that would be cool to watch.

>>719023117
the old testament AND the book of enoch both introduce the world we are in and set up over 300 prophecies for Jesus to fulfill. He is referenced even in the book of Enoch and the old testament even if not directly by name. i don't even like to call myself a "christian", i am someone who knows Yehoshua is our Messiah and that we have a Creator of this reality, and they are awesome and cool

>>719009492
Creative people tend to hate the no fun allowed or God will smite you crowd. How fucking shocking. Dumb Christ nigger

It's almost like your rabbi faggot worship is completely against video games

>>719009937
You do realize your gay like God considers video games a distraction right?
>WTF why do creative people hate my personality killing death penis cult
Your God is a raging boring faggot who hates individuals

>>719023482
How is it "no fun allowed" to notice that every single person who attempts to breach a topic has the exact same, fucking identical "spin" on the story? That's not interesting. That's not unique. That's not engaging. You're BORING. You're like every faggot who tried to write Superman and then say
>"BUT WHAT IF HE TURN EEEEEEVIL???"
Not a unique thought in your empty little head.

>>719023374
And where is your proof that a single word you read in a multi thousand year old text that has been passed around half the world and edited by several groups of powerful greedy rulers before even getting to your hands, is the truth?

>>719022749
>what are you expecting lil bro, you are talking to the literal God of the universe.

It's incredible how many people can not wrap their heads around this dynamic. So often in comment sections atheists/ anti-theists will default to the "children with bone cancer" argument, as if their sense of morality and judgement is the golden standard. Honestly I think it all starts with them taking up the banner of the gays, and applying that attitude to everything, even though clearly gays too are just as capable of receiving God's grace and forgiveness. But they've decided to be fiercely and arrogantly wrong, which is ten times as perilous as just guiltily indulging in something you know you shouldn't be.

Where does jeets replacing us fit into God's plan?

>>719023406
>bunch of pseudo-babble about speculation from men on earth trying to explain creation.

okay. and what about the big bang, do you think nothingness exploded 3.8 billion years ago and we somehow know it was 3.8 billion years ago by looking at lunar dust and the motion of lights in the sky? you have way too much faith into "science" that is really just speculation from men on earth no more capable than you or i. they have not reached any real answers as to how life got here, "science" is just the jewish invention to hide the Creator

the reason you don't believe in a Creator is because you instead believe you were evolved from nothing after nothing exploded. in this picture, nothing makes sense and there's no logical mind behind anything, it makes you into a nihilistic "yolo" selfish person who thinks this physical world and getting advantages in it is the only thing that matters

to prove God, you simply need to realize how much of our modern explanations for things is speculation done by retards and/or jews. for example, relativity, evolution, dinosaurs

>>719023634
Because retard, if you grew up in a Christ nigger home you'd know that drawing, listening to music, or just doing anything that isn't pure Jewish dick worship is le heckin sin and the big bad sky faggot will send you to hell

Get over it. Christ niggery isn't compatible with media that doesn't suck it's dick and everyone is tired of sucking dead Jew dick

Also, evidently - Christ niggers like you have no talents or personality to make your veggie tales video game..I wonder why

I wish I was any good at programming so I could make games. It wouldn't necessarily be with this concept but I do think a high-quality game with a Christian message would be wonderful.

>>719023858
You are so fucking mad, you've lost your grip on sanity. But look at all the worthless /pol/ cred you racked up with just 2 posts!!
>"AM I FITTING IN YET GAIS???"
You sure are, Timmy!

>>719023762
Anything bad is your fault. Anything good is his.

It works out perfectly when your logic is
>it doesn't need to make sense, it is so far above us, you're just arrogant to ask questions

Yet we were made in his image, but we are not given the ability or the opportunity to share his morality, even though we are supposed to follow it, not knowing what the hell it even is.

>>719022986
>demons are talked about in basically all religions for a reason.
Insanely Abrahamic take. Centuries of mythology are constantly being misconstrued by people trying to make stories fit within their expected paradigm.

Funny how it's both used to defend and attack Christianity though. Some people do it and go
>See! These early religions were actually people misinterpreting God and the events of genesis
And others go
>See! Christianity is a lie made by stealing from other religions!

>>719020776
>Demons are big stinkers
Lmao your God isn't scrolling through 4chan faggot. You don't get any brownie points for that. You're still going to hell.

>>719023858
That's just not true. I'm not even Christian but centuries of western art and music exist purely because of Christianity.

>>719023959
What does that have to do with what I said? Christ nigger, your book says to sell all worldly possessions.

Why are you engaging in demonic media? Video games are of the world and the world is run by Satan yes? So why are you mad at video games for being worldly and satanic?

You are a Christian right? You shouldn't have a computer, sell your worldly possessions and go suck off a rabbi

>>719023649
you mean a collection of 66 books written by 40 people preserved by 5800 greek manuscripts, 10,000 manuscripts in the latin vulgate, 9800 ethiopic, hoptic, armenian, syrian, gothic, slavic manuscripts, etc?

the book literally names the jew, says "if you guys dont deal with this jew problem its gonna be a problem for all generations", tells us who we are, tells us there's a creator and that this human experience was just made for us to enjoy, tells us that there's a life after death and we don't need to be afraid of dying, etc. and guess what, the jews ended up killing the literal son of God and the jews have invented a bunch of fake science and religions to cover it up ever since

what is the proof that you're flying on a ball through outer space at 450,000 mph right now in a sea of 1 septillion other "planets"? what's the proof that giant lizards walked around 300000000 years ago and we know they died to a "meteor from outer space"?

you cant PROVE anything in this life, you simply BELIEVE what you are told, as long as its from a source of authorty like a parent, teacher, scientist, etc

the bible is a historical narrative. it's literally used by archaeologists for hundreds of years. to find people, kings, civilizations that they thought didnt exist but the bible says they were there and guess what, they dig it up and find tons of proof that its correct does that make it the word of God? no, that makes it historically accurate. real people really existed and really wrote down what they saw. its worth considering

>>719023962
Christianity, especially the Catholic tradition, has always encouraged a rational view of the world and using one's gift of reason to help ascertain how best to live one's life. Unfortunately philosophy has divorced itself from any religious underpinnings over hundreds of years and led down dark turns.
I think exploring these concepts within the plot of a game, perhaps as subtext, would make for a compelling narrative.

>>719024128
I said mid paragraph *media that doesn't suck it off

Yeah, there's tons of irrelevant God glazing boring ass art out there. Often painting on the ceilings of pedophiles homes

Doesn't mean anyone still gives a shit about it

What a waste of a thread. Could have been a cool game concept but all the euphoric sharteens can't get past their desperate need to knock religion down a peg because their parents (who loved them) forced them to go to sunday school. TAKE THAT MOM AND DAD!

>>719023836
>to prove God, you simply need to realize how much of our modern explanations for things is speculation done by retards and/or jews. for example, relativity, evolution, dinosaurs

Okay. So if you think that a drawing was done by one person, but I say no it wasn't you are just speculating, does that mean the drawing defaults to God Did It since you don't know the actual person who drew it?

Even if you were to disprove any scientific theory at all, which you are unlikely to do, stupid as you are, that is not positive proof of supernatural origin.

>>719024308
These are generally people who browsed r/atheism back in the day and came to 4Chan when it became popular in 2017.

>>719024181
So you think all religions are all monks who live without possessions? I mean I guess I can't be surprised you know nothing about this system of beliefs you hate so rabidly and so blindly. All you know is that they share some scripture with jews and that's enough for you to have some very public meltdowns.

>>719010312
I see what you're saying, but I'd say there's an important distinction between being stifled and withering

>>719024217
>you simply BELIEVE what you are told
You sure do

>>719024228
>I think exploring these concepts within the plot of a game, perhaps as subtext, would make for a compelling narrative.
Where is the game part though? Sounds like something more suited to a lecture.

>>719024502
4chan was a regular fucking Seminary before the Trump election, yessiree

>>719023402
Book of Enoch. More importantly, almost all angels are the bottom right variety. Bright lights, beautiful winged humans, mysterious strangers, they're very much a reflection of mankind. Just don't fuck them or else you get a man-eating giant (I don't understand why that happens but it do)

>>719024308
>>719024502
I can tell you're both circumcised

>>719024506
Not at all. Imagine coming to a demonic and evil site and crying the satanists don't cater to your Jewish cock worship

That's a real melt down. Of course Christ cucks don't need talent or skill. All of your failings are gods plan because he has so much more for you in le cloud land

In le cloud land you'll have a full head of hair, and you'll live forever and eber and women will finally like you! Also grandpa will be there!!! And infinite toys and food and and ... Milk and honey!

But only after you've worked a long and proper 60 years at minimum wage for Mr sheckleberg. And remember, le rich something something needle in a hay stack. Never do anything..sky Jew will save you! Only talentless hacks and SINNERS make video games where they mock our loving all powerful JEWISH king of kings, the lion of JUDAH. Peace be upon his name (I can even spell it that's how sexy and powerful he is).

>>719024665
Philosophy as a driving element within a game has been done before, Bioshock being the most well-known example. It's not hard to write a plot about some society of philosophers with a core idea that sounds nice at first but steadily goes off the rails.
>>719024740
I'm not claiming it was but this level of vitriol against the concept of religion is heavily associated with reddit and its culture. It's midwittery that thinks itself above it all.

>>719024332
actually it's impossible to prove earth is in motion and in fact there are zero experiments that can be done to prove earth is in motion. everything you were taught by society about the ground under your feet has been one big psyop and you really don't know how special where you are is. the entire night sky is revolving around the center of our motionless earth. you are taught by the world you live in that your body and what its telling you is a lie. even though your body feels motionless all the time on earth, they say actually you're flying very fast and spinning very fast but your senses are lying.

the truth is, our stars haven't changed for all recorded history, we have a star that doesn't move that every other star revolves around. we can't freely explore earth, tons of land-masses and continents have been removed from maps over the years. once you go down this rabbit hole you will realize eventually how the only truth in this whole realm is there is an amazing Creator behind this experience. i don't like to use the term "god" because it literally comes from babylonian "Gaad", their deity of fortune. its why it's on the US dollar bill (in Gaad we trust), because this world is all set around demons tricking humans into worshipping them. here's 2 quotes i like:

>The first gulp from the glass of natural sciences will turn you into an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass, God is waiting for you" - Werner Heisenberg

>1 Corinthians 3:19
>For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.

by the way if you want my recommendation on how to find the truth it would be:
https://youtu.be/jcoXnTfzXIE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXU10zS1zFk

good luck and you're welcome

>>719013491
>Considering that it pains God, a being with a capacity for suffering far beyond our own

Now replace suffering with love and patience

>>719024951
No. Religion is inherently anti creativity. Think like God does, do as he does or go to hell

It's because anyone creative in their life has undoubtedly been told by some boring faggot that they should seek forgiveness for daring to do anything

In fact look at this thread. A bunch of Christ cuck faggots whining that people who don't believe what they do, aren't doing what they want

>>719023836
>>719024979
>I don't understand anything you're saying so I will call it "pseudo-babble"
You should at least attempt to engage with counter arguments instead of ignoring them and presenting them in the most ignorant and reductive way possible, like a atheist strawman in a Sunday School cartoon. You are embarrassing yourself trying to make your beliefs sound like a foregone conclusion in order to make yourself feel secure.
I haven't told you anything about what I believe, but you've decided you know everything about me based on the fact I challenged you. If I made you feel small, I apologize. You accuse me of having faith in "science" with scare quotes around it, as if plenty of history's most notable scientists weren't deeply religious men themselves who believe God endowed them with a sense of reason and it's their duty to exercise it by making hypotheses and performing experiments.
>dinosaurs
Yes, God made radioactive carbon isotopes decay at a certain rate to trick us and test our faith. That sounds like a being worthy of worship.
But I don't even have to challenge you because you contradict yourself. You preach about a God of love while spewing hatred. That says more about what you believe than any of your half baked aphorisms and out of context favorite quotes.

>>719024979
Your lack of comprehension and understanding of Gods creation is more insulting than it will ever be a product of your faith and piety. You reject reality and the truth of the world and declare divinity as exalted while unable to even understand basic reality.
>>719025161
The greatest inventors and scientists were believers, and some of the greatest works funded by churches as well. You do not understand the relationship between religion and art or religion and science.

>>719013223
The only good Christian music is celtic stuff like Iona.

Reminder that the Bible very explicitly forbids ugly people, cripples, and manlets from entering a place of worship

>>719024217
>what is the proof that you're flying on a ball through outer space at 450,000 mph right now in a sea of 1 septillion other "planets"?
Math that the Greeks figured out before Jesus was around. Math you could easily do yourself today. In fact most flat earthers who try to disprove the globe earnestly end up proving it instead by simple observation of eclipses. Not only is it provable and directly observable, it also makes sense on a fundamentally logical level just on the face of it.

Magic beings making rules and laws, changing rules and laws, performing miracles and magic for some people in one time period but then never again but are somehow still around... none of this makes any sort of logical sense on the face of it, on top of not being provable or observable at all.

>>719013491
>Why is Satan still around anyway?
It's not yet time to cast the traitor into the pit.

>>719025207
>You should at least attempt to engage with counter arguments instead of ignoring them and presenting them in the most ignorant and reductive way possible

lol its literally just some recently invented garbage science he's quoting from whatever garbage jew sources, it doesn't matter "earths oxygen free atmosphere". "ultraviolet rays triggered the formation of organic molecules" ok prove it. lol all of this stuff is unsubstantiated mumbo jumbo that isn't worth spending 2 seconds on. i know the truth and its not that, so why read gay jew fanfics about pseudoscience that doesn't exist? show me how ultraviolet rays triggered the formation of organic molecules by recreating it. if thats their theory it has to be something they can test and recreate, right? oh wait no its pure speculation based on nothing.

>>719024597
you should tell him what to believe then, since you've got it so right and he's got it so wrong :)

>>719025260
>The greatest inventors and scientists were believers, and some of the greatest works funded by churches as well. You do not understand the relationship between religion and art or religion and science.
Yeah new things tend to do that. Go look at rule 34 you dumb faggot. Cuckstianity didn't invent art, and it isn't the end all be all of art

And no art is made of it anymore because it's obsolete gobbledegook for retarded niggers who fear le invisible sky cop.

Again, what's stopping you from making me gay veggie tales video game? Is it in fact, because you lack the skill to do so and the people who do have the skill hate fags like you?

>>719008550 (OP)
I heard FROM was working on a Christian Souls game were you are a fallen angel and Jesus is the maiden figure that levels you up and the final boss is a test from heaven and it is the Holy spirit. It was leaked here a few years ago I can't remember all the details was interesting..

>>719025260
reality is what your body experiences. earth feels motionless because it is motionless. earth is flat to your eyes at the beach because its flat. its flat from a plane because its flat. its flat from a high altitude balloon because its flat (5x higher than a plane flies). i live in that reality, you live in the reality where albert einstein the jew made the most scientific discovery ever: "nobody can prove we're NOT flying through space at 4500000 mph lol!". you think thats reality instead of what your body tells you

>>719025373
>Gay Jew fanfic
You just described the Bible

>>719025161
If you want more songs about sex and depression then you have plenty of those now. To me those subjects are the lowest forms of art. What happened to all the art about great heroes and their deeds that existed when society was Christian? Art about the Divine and the ineffable is of course the highest form, and I wish we had more of that too.
I don't know how anyone can look at the rot that culture has gone through and think it an actual improvement over past eras. Ironically, seeking freedom for one's will and placing it on the highest pedestal leads to enslavement and rootlessness.

>>719025524
the bible literally names the jew, jews dont follow the bible at all, so why would you suggest that? its from that region and deals with jews a lot in it, yeah, i mean, they are the major evil of this world so of course theyre gonna be in the bible a lot