Thread 719010146

Expedition 33 is lagging far behind Elden Ring and Baldo's Gate 3 in cultural relevancy.

What
Went
Wrong?

Your birth.

>>719010146 (OP)
It didn't get enough Reddit advertising.

Bioshock Infinite becoming the posterboy for overhyped post-nut clarity is a fantastic legacy.

>>719010146 (OP)
>Bioshock Infinite
This is the game it reminded me of the most stylistically. It has that same shitty millennial "artsy" aesthetic.

>>719010146 (OP)
>cultural relevancy
oh no!
anyway...

>>719010146 (OP)
Fotm + Fomo
The game

I think it's very popular in smaller circles
But literal celebs were playing ER and BG3 got normies into CRPGs so yeah they are not comparable in terms of popularity.

>>719010146 (OP)
advertisement budget ran out

Now that you posted two nobody's talking on Twitter I've changed my mind, I'm am now a gay trans-black retard who will be voting for trumps 3rd term.

>>719010146 (OP)
Still more culturally relevant than Metaphor.

>>719010146 (OP)
Bahroo is a retard that gets filtered by every game with beyond surface level complexity.

>>719010146 (OP)
but i like Bioshock Infinite, its just a fun action shooter

how come people like Doom 2016, Wolfenstein TNO and Shadow Warrior but Bioshock Infinite is somehow bad?

>>719010146 (OP)
it's a mediocre asset flip game that relies on trauma and suffering storytelling tropes, and the retards that find value in that those tropes are cultlike, so that's the fanbase, nothing went wrong

>>719010146 (OP)
Honestly I think the two e33fags on this board might actually kill themselves when this loses gayme of the year

>>719010368
kikes really went to bat for it

>>719010146 (OP)
go woke go broke

>>719012029
Because games with the "-shock" title are tying themselves into the IMSIM genre thanks to systemshock and by releasing a normal SinglePlayer shooter after showing all of these cool gameplay systems for years prior all carved out of the final game.
Doom, Wolfenstein and Shadow Warrior were all explicitly boomer shooters nothing more nothing less.

>>719012029
because people praised infinite as a 10/10 masterpiece that proved video games are high art

>>719012205
how is clair obscure woke?

>>719012421
>america bad
>whites bad
true jewish art

>>719010146 (OP)
>in cultural relevancy.
whose culture?

>>719012421
I honestly don't understand what Infinite did with all those people, the game clearly shit itself after ~ beach episode. And it's not like the plot was so simple so normie brain would understand it without youtube video

>>719012397
ill be honest, i do not care for "imsims" i dont hate em, but 90% of the imsims ive played sacrifice good combat or good stealth or good RPG elements for the sake of adding the option to pile up boxes to skip a section or some shit, this includes the Bioshock titles, and System Shock 2 specially, the game had a great story, but absolutely putrid gameplay

same with deus ex, bad gunplay, bad stealth, simplistic RPG elements, good story and some interesting options during gameplay

i guess thats why i like Bioshock Infinite, its not trying to be something im not particularly fond of

>>719012421
sure Infinite is not that, and the story is kind of dumb after you put down the controller and think about it for a bit, but is still a fun shooter, and i rarely expect a good story from a shooter, its nice to find one, like with Half-Life 2 and Wolfenstein The New Order, but its not like im actively looking for it

>>719010146 (OP)
I'm pretty sure it will win GOTY just because it's the industry poster child for AI and asset store asset use that will allow even small teams to make a big game.

>>719010146 (OP)
Bioshock wasn't the highest rated user game of ever, though.
It has also received high praise by just about every dev out there.

>>719010146 (OP)
Most RPG's are pretty simple. You open menu, press big attack, you die, you have to go back to the beginning of the dungeon. Expedition 33 changed that

>>719010146 (OP)
No bear sex

Not enough disgusting nignogs with zoomer hair so shills like Schreier and his circlejerk of GameJournoPros friends doesn't shill it to impressionable retards 24h/day.

>>719013154
That just makes me trust it even less. I played it and felt it was a solid 7/10

Bioshock Infinite was shilled by every fucking pretentious journalists out there though? They have been praising it to no end and saying that "games are finally mature now" while with Expedition 33 the praise was a grassroot movement with players first starting to say it's great and only then journos caught up and wanted to grift on the bandwagon.

>>719010146 (OP)
looks culturally relevant to me

>>719010146 (OP)
>HarmanSmith64
Let's check out his youtube channel.
https://www.youtube.com/@blackcatbooks64/featured

>>719010146 (OP)
TLOU 1 was so frustrating because the ORIGINAL game was actually great. Little bit of woke stuff but whatever. Then the expansion comes out and makes her gay for no reason. Then they rewrite all the past stuff and makes the black doctor white and the sequel ruins everything. ND ruined the franchise for literally no reason

>>719013687
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJpmxQa2dIA
Ah, a tendie. Alright

>>719013687
KEK
gonna scare him and his mom on facebook

>>719012782
It was a case of doubling down, the hype was so strong that everyone kept it going after launch, took a decade for it to wear off.

>>719013427
>players first starting to say it's great
paid shills*

>>719013687
wow, a real nintendork

>>719010146 (OP)
>Elden Ring and Baldo's Gate 3 in cultural relevancy
hahaha, what cultural relevancy ? 2 years later BG3 did nothing to the CRPG genre (is still in the fucking grave) while Elden Ring made the industry worse duo to how many want souls like slop open world edition

>>719013427
The only people who liked Expedition 33 were paid shills like game streamers and vtubers. Real gamers hated it for being a throwback to shitty JRPG mechanics and having obnoxious music that overrides dialogue and battle sfx.

>>719010146 (OP)
Based Harman Smith

>>719010146 (OP)
There's nothing less interesting than discussing what people on twitter think about a video game

>>719014457
Fuck off Eric.

>>719010146 (OP)
I'm not sure BG3 is in the same league as ER

>>719011875
Isn't he a nintendo guy usually?

It's hard carried by its OST

>>719010146 (OP)
It's a rather niche new IP that had a bit of being the flavor of the month. It will probably need a sequel to have staying power if it wants to be remembered as anything more than "that french game that used jrpg mechanics".

>>719014634
It has more players than ER

>>719010146 (OP)
>no FSR4
No play

>>719012782
>wowzie are those b-b-b-breats on a FEEEEMALE???
>BEST GAME EVER!!!!!!
>done fapping and never finished the game but keps praising it as pillar of the art for decades
Also known as FF7 effect, or Nier 2B Syndrome.

>>719010146 (OP)
SMT V Vengenace is THE rpg of the decade for as of now. I could see Atlus topping it with VI if it releases before 2030, however.

>cultural relevancy
brainrotted zoomers can't comprehend that some people just don't give a shit about FOTM or FOMO

>>719010146 (OP)
>Game of the Decade
That's Disco Elysium, but #FrogsTried.

>>719014634
GOTD so far are ER and BG3

>>719010146 (OP)
It's a piece of shit game
That's the issue

>>719012947
>same with deus ex, bad gunplay, bad stealth, simplistic RPG elements
stick to Call of Duty buddy

>>719014835
>Disco Elysium
visual novels aren't games

>>719014835
You're so right. Here's some gold, fellow redditor

Hopefully an anon or two livestreams xhems suicide when E33 wins goty. watching faggots get more and more buckbroken over this game as the years go by is going to be pure cinema.
E33 won.

>>719010146 (OP)
>Harman Smith

Release the Cattle Have Fangs already you lazy fuck.

>>719012782
paid hype

>>719014837
Oh I'm not debating GOTD, just cultural relevance. But perhaps I'm underestimating BG or overestimating ER.

>>719013689
>for literally no reason

>2/3 of the best games this decade have been European
The white man is back baby.

>>719014898
OR alternatively, i can play Doom (2016), Metal Gear Solid 3 and Elden Ring, a game with better gunplay than Deus Ex, one with better stealth than Deus Ex and one with better RPG elements than Deus Ex

even if you fellate Deus Ex daily, you cannot deny how every individual element of the gameplay sucks ass

if Half-Life had the gunplay as Deus Ex, nobody would play it

>>719015217
Deus Ex MD plays better than most shooters. You don't need to like a game to justify it existing anon, most of the time you are not the target demo.

>>719015217
Deus Ex has more RPG elements than most modern "RPGs'" like ER, Witcher, etc. and the gunplay is fine - it's not a pure shooter.

Sounds like your brain can't comprehend choices or agency. You should stick to Call of Duty or Last of Us.

>>719015217
Your standards for shooting, stealth, and role-playing are surprisingly low.

>>719010146 (OP)
It's better than both of those games and clearly has a less obnoxious fan base than those two if it's lagging behind, so there's nothing wrong

>>719010146 (OP)
Interest free loans may buy you medicore talent and extensive astroturfing campaigns, but not integrity.

>>719010146 (OP)
>new IP is lagging behind established franchises
I don't believe it

>>719010146 (OP)
relevance

really scraping the bottom of the barrel for criticism if you think "cultural relevancy" will ever be a knock against the quality of a game

>>719010146 (OP)
I played all 3 of them and they're all really really good :)
I love games

>>719015374
havent played MD, only the original Deus Ex and Human Revolution, so you might be right

yeah im probably not the target demographic, like i said in my original comment, i simply dont get all the hype around immersive sims, lots journos and normal players like to claim is the best thing ever, but to be honest, i dont think ive ever played an immersive sim thats like, above an 8/10 for me personally

like you said, im probably not the target

>>719015556
damn, i was giving you the benefit of the doubt, but you truly have no taste

>>719015534
>and the gunplay is fine - it's not a pure shooter.

lol no, the gunplay of System Shock Enhanced Edition is "fine", the gunplay of Freedom Fighters is "fine", those games arent pure shooters either, but i dont have to wait 3 centuries before my character can shoot straight

>Deus Ex has more RPG elements than most modern "RPGs'" like ER, Witcher, etc.

yeah sure, those games dont make you level up swimming

>>719010146 (OP)
expediiton 33 lost to nortubel

>>719016445
oh and for the record, i never said Deus Ex was bad, and yet >>719015556 >>719015534 got their panties in a twist

>>719016445
Stop with the reddit spacing.

>>719015214
1*
expedition 33 is quite literally the only western game worth playing in the past 7 or 8 years. white game development is not back, unfortunately. but at least things are more hopeful than they were before e33, I guess

>>719016445
>>719016536
All I said was your standards are surprisingly low. Don't get your panties in a twist.

WOW THANK YOU FOR THIS XITTER THREAD

>the toddler who has only ever played Deus Ex lacks reading comprehension

i never said Doom 2016 is the best shooter ever, just a damn great one, not like it matters what i think is the best shooter ever, i insulted your holy cow so now no matter what i say is the best shooter ever you will dismiss it

>>719016695
BG3 is great though

>>719016697
and yet i couldnt tolerate deus ex's gunplay, stealth and RPG elements, i think that speaks volumes about the quality of those elements

>>719010146 (OP)
dk troons precoping this many months in advance?

>>719010146 (OP)
Hmm, despite everyone sucking the game's dick, nothing about it looked appealing or interesting to me, personally, so I haven't even pirated it. I'm glad if people enjoyed a vidya and found it to their liking, but maybe the hype was overblown and some people like me feel a bit suckered into having bought something that they ultimately didn't much enjoy?

>>719017110
>looked

*Sigh*

>>719017110
>i haven't played it
>here's my expert opinion
thanks

>>719017325
You don't look at video games?
>>719017343
It was a musing, not an opinion, sweaty.

>>719016854
yeah if you're a tranny, groid worshipper, a homosexual, or have an ugly woman fetish i'm sure it's awesome.

>>719016940
Yeah it says the stealth and rpg elements were too complex for you which is why you prefer the most popular and more linear, actiony alternatives. Like someone who can't stand listening to anything that isn't top 40.

>>719017454
all of those things describe the e33 devs and fans though

>>719017514
>Yeah it says the stealth and rpg elements were too complex

peak delusion, play more games, homie

>>719010146 (OP)
Elden Ring and Balder's Gate 3 came out during the pandemic and BG3 had sex with animals which made terminally online people go crazy.

>>719017773
>play more AAA
I'll pass, "homie." Right now I'm playing Might and Magic 6. It's a real RPG, so you'd probably fucking hate it.

>>719017886
>REAL rpgs are ugly as fuck
ok

>>719018010
Aww, not enough low-contrast fog for ya?

>>719010146 (OP)
>rollslop
>fagslop
I'll take E33.

>>719010146 (OP)
Game just has zero swag. Haven’t seen a single design or environment that looks cool to me

>nindians

literal subhuman creatures lol

>>719016445
explain in detail the problem with Deus Ex's gunplay.
>those games dont make you level up swimming
whoa.. character progression.. in an RPG?

>>719017648
Cope, faggot. E33 is by heterosexual white men for heterosexual white men and it will be remembered as such.

>>719018597
You don't understand, I simply CAN'T play the game if I have to put a small amount of points into swimming just once ever!

>>719013318
having a hot take means being a retard on purpose in 2025

>>719018323
>Haven’t seen a single design or environment that looks cool to me
game nails the dream aesthetic.
The music takes it to the next level.

>>719010146 (OP)
E33 is a solid 7/10 for me. I enjoyed it, but I don't think it's the most legendary game of all time or anything like that. It's getting that kind of reputation because the development team was "small" so people are putting it up on a pedestal as a metaphorical fuck you to the rest of the industry. E33 will unfortunately be one of those games with a very, very vocal and irritating fan base.

>>719012421
>people praised infinite as a 10/10 masterpiece
i wouldn't consider Cliff "people". he's barely human.

>>719018914
>E33 will unfortunately be one of those games with a very, very vocal and irritating fan base
IMO, E33 will unfortunately be one of those games with a very, very vocal and irritating hater squad.

>>719010146 (OP)
>>719013687
>>719013786
It's really funny learning that CodyCoyote64 is still alive and even more of an autistic retard than he was sperging out here in 2016.

>>719019089
Makes a lot more sense when you realize it's the bg3 schizo. He even tweaked his china posts

There's objectively literally nothing bad about E33, you have to try really hard to hate it. The music is good, chara design is good, the voice acting is good, it released with no major bug, the characters are likable and the story is intriguing enough to play it until the end. The gameplay is fun if you like both turn-based games and fromslop. It's not even gay or woke.

>>719019089
well yeah, its French.

>>719010146 (OP)
>fuck E33 and every game, Elden ring deserves that right, it's the most cultural game ever!

>>719018597
>explain in detail the problem with Deus Ex's gunplay.

well for starters is not very intuitive, why does it take so much time for your aiming reticle to narrow down into an accurate shot? i would imagine less skill poits into gunplay would affect shit like, recoil management, or maybe some tiers of weapons would require a higher gun mastery level to use, like in say Souls games or in Legend of Grimrock, where, if you lack the necessary stats you cannot use certain weapons, or in the case of Souls game, you can use em but they deal like 1 damage and the attack animation takes ages so you might as well not be able to use it

besides truly never feels good to shoot in Deus Ex, the probably the worst part

>>719013687
>A tendie
Every, FUCKING, TIME

>>719010146 (OP)
And still more relevant than any Falcom game and non-Persona 5 Atlus game. Keep seething.

>>719010146 (OP)
Expedition 33 reminded me how a good JRPG is supposed to feel. Atlus has been depriving us for decades with their shitty dating simulators. Square made an admirable effort with Rebirth, but it felt more like an action game than a JRPG (still enjoyed it tho).

>>719020076
>There's objectively literally nothing bad about E33
Besides the Act 3 writing

>>719018824
>dood le floating rocks
shits lame as hell
>>719020076
Most of the music is some French lady yelling

>>719013687
We need an analysis on the tendie phenomenon.

>>719019168
Can't be autistic if he has a job.

>>719013687
OHNONONONONONONO

>>719013687
>64
say less

>>719013687
>this is who is posting on your board

>>719010146 (OP)
Isn't backed by tencent shills like Elden Ring and BG3.

>cut out reply statistics
curious

>>719010146 (OP)
Ah, yes, cultural relevance is definitely what I'm looking for in my video game. Well spotted.

>>719013687
>Metaphor is FORGOTTEN
>The Witcher 4 FAILED
>Nightreign FAILED
>Clair Obscur FAILED
>Death Stranding FAILED
>Deltarune FAILED
Is this an AI trained on this board's tendies?

>>719010146 (OP)
that game looks like fucking ass

>>719021147
Deltarune did fail though.

>>719020256
>so much time for your aiming reticle to narrow down
you mean 3 seconds? I figured that out on the first guard on Liberty island. it takes more time to aim in real life. Sorry there's no Xbox auto-aim

>>719010146 (OP)
It was exactly as good as I expected it to be. An 8-9/10 game. Bioshock infinite falls apart under the lightest scrutiny and was written by a man that couldn't understand anything about what he was writing, Expedition 33 meanwhile has very simple themes with good execution.

>>719021562
Reminds me a lot of shit I read in Helldivers
>saar why my gun have sway and delay saar I am aiming at the target saar why I miss
Because the in-universe character isn't on a gimbal doing pinpoint perfect 180 turns right where your reticle is, this isn't CSGO
And it's mostly from console players with their massive built in autoaim

>>719020542
>act 3 writing
Other than being over too quickly the writing was good. What's the issue with it?

>>719021381
It has more cultural relevance than any Nintendo game so it wins.

>>719012589
buddy there's already blacks in the first hour of the game

>>719022259
Mean we sure have trekked far now that "Niggers existing" is woke.

>>719022352
this was always my stance on games, you might be a bit new here

>>719021872
Completely shifting the focus of the narrative away from the inhabitants of the painting trying to protect their world to family drama of people you largely don't care about. It kills all emotional build up and attachment in favor of
>I'm tired

>>719014837
RDR2 has a higher metacritic than both and double both games sales.

>>719010146 (OP)
>TWITTER
>SCREENCAP
>THREAD

P.S.
Baldur's Gate 3 is very long game with many notable characters, quotes etc. Expedition 33 is much shorter, but still has iconic soundtrack and good characters with some memorable quotes. What cultural relevance Elden Ring has ?

>>719022862
Well when the entire world is seen as fake and the entire expeditionary conflict turns out to be a family conflict, that's what fucking happens. Everyone had to take a backseat to Verso and Maelle, because only those two had any real say in anything. Nobody else is people, it's all just a story about family drama and how to deal with grief. The inhabitants CAN'T protect their world, only Maelle can, and her doing so is also her throwing her actual life away.

>>719023085
>but still has iconic soundtrack
you don't know what that word means

>>719013687
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>>719022994
RDR2 is going to be buried by the next Rockstar game, because rockstar games are hype and polish and no substance.

>>719022862
That's not a narrative flaw. That's a YOU flaw.
You wanted a disney-esque 3rd act where all the heckin gooderinos team up to fight Thanos. But the game had higher goals.

>>719013318
I didn't even know Avowed came out until you reminded me about it.

>>719023107
>Well when the entire world is seen as fake and the entire expeditionary conflict turns out to be a family conflict, that's what fucking happens
And that's the problem. "None of these characters or events mattered. Now feel bad for this dysfunctional family because they're real™"
>Nobody else is people, it's all just a story about family drama and how to deal with grief. The inhabitants CAN'T protect their world, only Maelle can
The game itself disproves this as Verso is just as real as the painting's other inhabitants, and yet he is still able to overrule Maelle's choices if the player sides with him.
>>719023230
>But the game had higher goals
>"Stop playing with your toys."
>"NO DAD I DON'T WANNA"

>>719023942
Verso is MORE real, because he's special. A real person made him specifically to never die under any circumstance out of grief.
>and that's the problem
No it isn't, that's the twist. The characters and events DO matter, because even if you come at them with the opinion that them being constructions renders them pointless, they still have major impacts on the people that DO exist. Or did Gustave's fake ass sending Maelle into grief spirals even after she knew it was a painting not tip you off? The art impacts the artists.

>cultural revelancy
does this term mean anything beyond volume of retarded twitter memes?

>>719023942
>stop playing with your toys
She's a burned, mute, half blind cripple in reality. In the painting she's a normal human who can speak. She's also sustaining sentient people with real lives. She's also-also preserving the remnants of her brother that her father would cast away out of fear of his family never overcoming grief by themselves.

>>719024113
It means that the game is available on a Nintendo console.

>>719024113
Cultural relevancy = zeitgeist.
How often are people talking about your game and for how long?
It definitely means something.

>>719024075
>Verso is MORE real, because he's special
He's not real. He is a painting. That's like claiming Esquie is "more real" because he was painted to be the most powerful being in existence. It doesn't matter how "real" you were painted to be because it's still nothing compared to a painter.
>Or did Gustave's fake ass sending Maelle into grief spirals even after she knew it was a painting not tip you off?
Ah, so that must be why she only cares about not wanting to be a cripple when she confronts Renoir.

>>719010146 (OP)
I don't want retards to discover E33

>>719024839
>he's a painting
He's a special painting given real memories, he's a facsimile of a real person given resistance to painting bullshit.
>that's why she only cares when
I mean did you miss the whole "Walking around in a mask to cover herself" thing? Or the epilogue where she couldn't fucking speak just like her masked self? Of course she doesn't want to be a cripple, she's ashamed and burdened by it. Once she remembers she's a giga-cripple, I.E. shortly before she faces Renoir, she then doesn't want to go back to being a worthless cripple burden.

>>719024903
Too late, those are the people shilling for it.

>>719024113
the more algo buzz = big culture moment (drone culture that is)