Thread 719026834

How did Ace Attorney's localization succeeded where others failed?

>>719026834 (OP)
is the great ace attorney bad?

>>719027286
Read what you just posted

>>719027286
no, it's great
pay attention

>>719027362
>>719027457
so like, is it good then or are you trolling me

TGAA duology is better than the original trilogy and I'm tired of pretending it's not.

>>719027286
it's garbage, legit the worst game in the series
so boring it's sleep-inducing the 19th century setting is trash and makes nips look like subhumans with inferiority complex

Rough sex with Susato
Imagine the massive bush

>>719027830
Try speaking without buzzwords, brownjeet

>>719026834 (OP)
The games have been going for so long that it started off in the era where localization liberties were more accepted and the series has basically been grandfathered in.

>>719027286
It's good, but the characters can get too quirky with the accents and I felt that it had more dialogue than the other ace attorney games

>>719027980
>hey don't use buzzwords!!!
>uses a buzzword in the same line
The Gay Anus Attorney still sucks

>Stop it Susato...
>Why are you smiling at me like that?

Sus.

>>719027579
They're solid. First game relies too much on setting up the sequel, but the setting, characters and trials are all good.

>>719027579
As a standalone, TGAA1 is not that good because it leaves too many things left unresolved and unsatisfying. It's not so much a cliffhanger as it is the setup to a cliffhanger.
As a complete package, it's a fantastic duology.

Literally turned this shit off and walked out of the ludotorium right here. Absolute hack writing.

>>719027286
It's a good game stretched out into two. Would have been way better if they cut down on some shit. Sherlock carries the cast hard.

>>719027579
they're good, I'd say as a complete package they're the second best collection of games.
as individual games they're all over the place in terms of quality with some real severe low points early on that don't plague the other entries.
I do question someone's sanity if someone thinks that these are better than the original trilogy, the characters as a whole are likeable but drag on too much at times, without Sherlock the cast's total quality drops below other collections.
But I think it's worth playing if your a fan, but only if your a fan.

>DUDE SHE WAS PART OF YOUR IMAGINATION THE WHOLE TIME
probably one of the worst twists I've ever seen what was even the point

>>719026834 (OP)
bobobo-tier levels of schizo translating
will never happen again and is the exception, not the rule

>>719028302
>that look when she's already got your semen while you were sleeping

>>719026834 (OP)
What's Takumi up to these days anyway, he is still at Capcom right?

I'm just glad the games didn't get the Persona treatment where the hack translators will leave in Japanese honourifics. Seeing Phoenix being called "Naruhodo-kun" the whole game would make me turn it off.

>>719027286
The two games as a whole are pretty great, but the first GAA takes way too long to properly get going so I wouldn't say it's very good on its own

>>719027286
All these games have too much filler, but still worth playing once

>>719033074
Joke? Ace Attorney is the definition of a bad translation.

>>719033335
No it isn't. Ace Attorney 1's translation is great.

Honestly, Ace Attorney games is one of the few series where I don't mind the translation despite it being not accurate. They do it right because they don't insert woke nonsense to push a narrative.

>>719033448
eat your hamburgers apollo

>>719033617
That line isn't in any of the games.

I really liked the animations in this game.
There wasn't much, but they had a little something quite endearing.

>>719027286
the first one is super boring, but the second game builds off of it and is hella fun and satisfying

>>719026834 (OP)
>The Great Ace Attorney
Game is literally made for small, slow children. You never figure anything out on your own and evidence is coincidently and conveniently provided when the game decides it needs to move forward.

>>719034320
>its made for children
>I couldn’t figure things out on my own
So you’re dumber than a child?

>>719027286
It's the best AA game. Tied with the original trilogy, at least.

I loved the jury sections in TGAA
https://youtu.be/KGOmsZfSJuw

>>719036917
shocking that they didnt think of it until they did Layton v Phoenix
If they overhauled PW7 to meet the same standard as TGAA it'd be amazing, but I doubt they will

>>719026834 (OP)
1. You grew up with it
2. If it was translated 100% accurately it would be actually be totally incomprehensible because the original script is full of puns and japanese pop culture references

>>719026834 (OP)
Is it not 愛する?

Japanese can be translated 1:1
There are like 30 extremely rare sentences which are untranslabe but they can be easily explained in a single line with two brackets
Any localization is agenda
Wake up

>>719037342
What's the direct translation of "desu"?

>>719037342
>Japanese can be translated 1:1
Yes, but it sounds retarded.

>>719037445
だ/です cant really be translated but i would still argue the closes is the "is" like the state not actually the word for exist

>>719037445
Desu

>>719037579
No not really give me a short one and i will try
As long as you keep the verb/noun+da/adjective in the end and all the words that act as modifiers you can change the word order as you wish

>>719030987
Anon that's from the ending you had already finished the game at that point
>>719037445
"to be honest."

>>719037445
That's like asking for a translation of . or !
You don't translate desu, you translate the words before it which are modified by the desu, desu ka, da, ya...
What's the definition of "be"? Ah, but actually it was "to be" and it's not an infinitive so you're wrong! LOLMAO you stupid you can't have 100% accurate english definitions therefore I am now legally allowed to replace all your favorite media with stale reddit memes and current year politics!

>>719027579
Game has ntr so it's shit

>>719037793
I don't mean it sounds retarded grammatically (although some sentences may sound like that). I mean that it doesn't sound like natural English.
For instance, the most common way to refer to someone in third person in Japanese is "ano hito" (that person). However, saying that in English sounds stupid in most scenarios.

i want to dump my screenshots but gnome is being a bitch

>>719033770
My retarded poorfag wife

>>719038265
So you admit it can't all be translated 1:1 then?
>What's the definition of "be"?
To exist.
Wow, that was easy.

>>719038473
dropped

>>719037342
>Japanese can be translated 1:1
Japanese often omits the subject of the sentence and thus it needs to be added to English translations.

>>719038508
>ano hito
Im pretty sure aitsu its used more
So "that guy"

Ace Attorney games are filled will funny characters and jokes. You can't hate this series unless you have a shit taste of humor.

the first three cases in TGAA bored me to death, so i stopped. the introduction case especially is hellish to go through, just absolute boredom

The Great Ace Attorney feels like a glimpse of what the Phoenix Wright series could’ve looked like if the localizers didn’t decide that it was necessary to absolutely fuck everything up because they were afraid that people wouldn’t enjoy playing a game not set in America.

>>719039880
you have shit taste.

>>719039914
To be fair, there was a timezone puzzle.

>>719037342
I know this is just lazy bait but Japanese is full of retarded onomatopeias used as adjectives, impossible to translate 1:1

>>719039880
the 1st case is a tutorial so understandably dull, the 2nd case is pretty fucking boring but the 3rd case is where it at least starts to pick up
but if you dont like this style of writing/cliches/drama then there's no point forcing yourself

>>719027767
I would come for Susato!

>>719039914
They didn't screw anything up. They changed it because the first case of the first game involves a timezone clue so they needed to specific the location.

>>719035461
your reading comprehension skills are that of a child so i guess this slop was made for you

>>719028738
I'd like to impregnate her with Misty Fey's mom.

>>719040062
>>719041047
You don't need to know the exact time difference to solve that puzzle, you just need to know that there is a time difference.

>>719041592
Yes, but the existence of the time zone means that the location of the game has to be specified. The victim in that case was in Paris, so how many hours between Paris and wherever the game is located are there?

>>719028302
It's the bangs tied back to show her cute forehead that does it for me.

>>719038265
trvke

>>719041298
Isn't her family from Khura'in?

>>719037445
.

>>719027286
its called great ace attorney, not bad ace attorney, for a reason

>>719039880
the third case in TGAA was great though?

>>719027286
I do like them, but they really could have done with another pass from an editor or something. They really do drag on.

>>719039880
I disagree on the third case but i can understand if you aren't in love with the start, it's by far the worst and slowest start to any of these games, it gets better after the first two but if by the third you aren't feeling it then you might as well abandon ship as it's the best case of the first game and a personal favorite from the duo.
With that said I don't feel like it's discussed enough how shockingly slow and unsatisfying the start of the game is.
>>719043765
with how repetitive the dialogue gets at the worst of times you'd think it was translated 1:1.

imagine how sweaty susato's boobs must have been while she was disguised as a boy during that stressful trial ahaha

>>719027286
It's less funny than Ace Attorney but, no, it's not bad.

>>719026994
>imagine being at computers

>>719033573
At least not the first time lol

>>719033770
>be on study tour in bongland
>see Gina Lestrade gliding down the sidewalk
>like a graceful penguin with gout
>follow her for a block
>working up courage
>gently touch her shoulder
H-hello, remember me? Ry-Ryunosuke. Y-youre the prettiest girl Ive ever seen! W-would you join me for dinner?
>she spins around nearly smashing me in the balls with Gregson's metal travel trunk
>stares intently for a few moments
>then breaks into a grin that looks like she could eat an apple through a chain link fence
YEH ORLRITE! FAK IT, WHY NOT? C'MON THEN 'ODDO, I CUD DO WIV SOME FREE GRUB ANNA LITTLE OF THE OL IN OUT!
>quickly grab her hand and go into the first restaurant I see that has tablecloths
FAKKIN ELL! POSH ERE INNIT? GLAD I GOT MY TURDCUTTER WAXED!
>she lets out a little giggle that sounds like a horse with its leg caught in a wood chipper
>head waiter gives me the stinkeye but leads us to a table
>Gina cocks her head and squints at the menu
ERE NOW, WATS THIS SHITE? ITS ORL IN FAKKIN FRENCH! OI CARNT READ THIS, ILL END UP GETTIN A PLATE OF FAKKIN SNAILS WUNNOI?!?
>look at the menu. Its in English, just a fancy script
>she shoves her menu at the waiter
I WONT PIE AND MASH DUNNOI. PLENTY OF LIKKER ON THA MASH, GUV!
Im sorry, madam, we don-
I SED FAKKIN PIE AND MASH M8! AND A PINTA LARGER FOR ME EDACHE!
>he slinks away without even taking my order
>Gina pulls a pack of Mayfairs from her cleavage and sparks up, ashing in the bread basket
>starts rubbing at her crotch
>brings her fingers up and licks them then cackles
JOLLY FAKKIN ELL, ITS ME TIME! OI LUV GITTIN SHAGGED ONNA RAG! GUNNA AVE US A RED HEADED LEAGUE INNA LOO, AINT WE 'ODDO?
>look over my shoulder and franticly signal the waiter for the check
>turn around
>Gina is slumped over the table
>no one escapes the Reaper

>>719046292
Not playing Apollo Justice cause of this scene alone.

>>719026834 (OP)
>pic
nakadashi

>>719043520
I'll kill you for that dumb slanteye

>>719026834 (OP)
Great setting, dumbed down gameplay. I still don't get why the pursue mechanic even exists.

>>719027286
They're pretty boring and end on a wet fart

>>719026834 (OP)
It was released during the era where people were too retard to realize what was happening and it built a fanbase with that localization so now people defend it because that's what they grew up with. Same can be said for stuff like yu-gi-oh and dragonball.

>>719027286
it's like edgeworth, garbage on their own but if you take the experience of both games then they end up in the top ranks
they're definitely better than DD and SoJ, the updated graphics, animations, music, mechanics helped and the removal of magic/spiritual bullshit meant that the cases, answers and deductions had to be grounded more in (stretched) reality

>>719027286
the only bad AA game is AJ

it really is a shame the official translation isn't as racist

>>719049053
I'd point out the hologram machine but it could be replaced with spies and it'd achieve the same thing.

>>719049572
it's a shame the jap version was toned down in patches

I like to pretend AI: The Somnium Files is a spiritual sequel to Ace Attorney, since Crapcom never fucking release a new game.

>>719052754
Surely the next direct/TGS will be where 7 is finally revealed...