Thread 719027639

it's not cheating if it's part of the game. it's simple as.

It might not be cheating but it does show you value completing a game more than experiencing it
It's like watching someone scoff down a burger without swallowing, it's tactless

of course it isn't cheating.
and even if you use actual cheats. who the fuck cares

>>719027639 (OP)
>"We don't put easy mode in our games, we want everyone to be on the same level when discussing our games"
>Literally puts ez mode item in every game
So this... is the power of... prepare to die... woah

>>719027738
how do i eat something without swallowing

>>719027738
wouldnt exercising more of the game's mechanics be experiencing it more fully?

>>719028126
some mechanics mean you are utilizing less of the other ones

>>719027639 (OP)
why do cheaters always have to look for rationalized validations?
Just cheat and move on

>>719028126
The fact that there is an achievement tied to using it is proof enough to me that it is considered an integral aspect of the game, even if it isn't necessary to use it in order to be successful.

Also, you can only use it on a handful of bosses.

it's not cheating but it's not beating the game either
it's in the same category as handing the controller to your brother to beat the boss for you

>>719028246
>it's an achievement so it's integral
holy KWAB

>>719027639 (OP)
All the summonable guys were total retards though that do 50 damage a hit.

Also this game was painfully mid, every boss just spams combos nonstop and they all have a instant i-frame jump backwards move which means every boss fight in the game has the boss backing themselves into wall constantly.

>>719028280
The NPC allies in this game are barely useful, so I don't think you can really make this comparison.

>>719028352
>implying you can 100% a game without also getting all achievements
You didn't beat the game

>>719028429
Holding aggro on the boss so you can stab them in the back for free is pretty useful.

>>719027738
*raises paw*
The only way you'd know that something is broken before using it is if you are reading walkthroughs or spoiling yourself in some other way
Someone who is experiencing the game "honestly" will use mechanics with the assumption the game is balanced around them, instead of being told which ones to not utilize to experience the "full game"

>>719028508
By this logic, any form of mitigation of risk other than purely dodging is wrongplay.

>>719027639 (OP)
As long as you got it through in-game means...

>want to roll back to 1.4 but don't want to lose the performance boost 1.5.1 provides shittier rigs
Why can't Chinks just not be gay for once?

>>719028429
I didn't know it was only NPC summons
yeah if they can't literally just beat the whole game for you like player phantoms that's a different thing from usual Souls summoning, it might still be easy mode depending how much they fuck the boss's AI up, like Spirit Ashes, but you can actually beat the game using it, since at least it's not someone else doing it for you

>>719028728
The game isn't multiplayer, though I hear they have plans for adding it in the future. Honestly, summoning the NPCs felt more like a handicap than anything since using that flute takes about 2-3 seconds and they end up getting themselves killed pretty quickly kek.

I wish there was a whistle for open areas instead of boss areas. Last levels suck so bad with every normal enemy being able to 2-3 shot you in 1 combo that completely kills any wish for exploration in them. Honestly that's the problem with this game in general where the locations are sprawling and interesting but the combat with normal enemies feels like a constant struggle that just wears you down and fatigues you, it's like every normal enemy encounter is some "fuck you trap" from DS that only had like 2-3 of those per area.
Also the fucking souls-style quests where unless you constantly visit every npc in the game after every fart you can literally mess up the whole story and literally not even know who the last boss is is so retarded

>>719029079
The last boss is still a mystery for most of us I think lol... fortunately there are a ton of YouTube autists who make their living trying to make sense of these shitty, cryptic stories.

Speaking of which, looks like the game still has a pretty solid player base. I was worried that maybe I was the only person still playing it.

>>719027974
This.
Cheat in a single player game? Who the fuck cares.
Cheat in a multiplayer game though, that's when you're scum.
Unless it's a co-op game, then some cheating is alright if it's not disrupting other's enjoyment. Infinite ammo in Deep Rock Galactic for example.