Thread 719030879

>Japanese game
>church neutral at worst
Why is this so uncommon in games from this country?

i love ciel and noel is a good addition.
kirei is also a cool dude.
they may be neutral at best, sure, but you can't deny nasu keeps making the church characters cool as fuck.

>>719031797
>neutral at worst
oops
write that off i'm illiterate

>>719030879 (OP)
>church neutral at worst
But they aren't? They are the good guys of the setting most of the time.

>>719032041
Fuck I am illiterate too. I thought you wrote neutral at best.

>>719030879 (OP)
Dragon Quest comes to mind. The Church is sometimes taken over by bad actors, but it and the faith itself are fine. In reality, the elevens love Gnostic themes, and Abrahamic iconography work great for that.

>>719032101
you know, it actually feels pretty good to not be the only illiterate person here.

>>719031797
God, I just want Nasu to make a Holy Church focused soulslike... I know he wants to...

>>719033039
>another Samurai Remnant musou hell
No thanks.

>>719030879 (OP)
Shit game. Give me a proper FGO fighter.

>>719030879 (OP)
Rather forgiving of them really since the church once tried to take over the country and was banished for decades over it

>>719031797
Honestly the only shitty church person I can even think of is the comically racist guy from Prototype. Even the sociopathic sadist still has legitimate faith and is capable of helping people.

>>719033039
he can wait until red garden comes out

This excerpt from Aizawa Seishisai gives a pretty good view of how Japan saw Christianity, though it’s from 1845 and not the 1600s when the persecution of Christians and the closing of Japan began
>“For close to three hundred years now the Western barbarians have rampaged on the high seas. Why are they able to enlarge their territories and fulfill their every desire?...Christianity is the sole key to their success. It is a truly evil and base religion, barely worth discussing. But its main doctrines are simple to grasp and well-contrived; they can easily deceive stupid commoners with it....”
>”Whenever they seek to take over a country, they employ the same method. By trading with that nation, they learn about its geography and defenses. If these be weak, they dispatch troops to invade the nation; if strong, they propagate Christianity to subvert it from within....”
Tldr, they view christians the same way whites view jews.

>>719030879 (OP)
I'd say as fucked as the Church is, they are still more moral than the asshole mages.

>>719030879 (OP)
>Why is this so uncommon in games from this country?
Historically the first contact japan ever had with Christianity was from the portugesearound the 1500s, the mf Christians systematically seeded national unrest in Japan in order to brainwash enough people to overthrow the Shogun and instate a Christian state and convert Japan into a Portuguese colony like Spain had done in other countries like the philiphines
Based Shogun mde the Christians debate against the Budists in order to see which one was the "true" religion and the Christians got btfo'd
Then japan kille dall the christian foreigners and banned Christianity until the modern era
in the modern era (around the 80s iirc), christian based suicide cults poped up, they caused a lot of terrorist attacks and did a few mass suicides.
Japan has had horrible experiences with Christianity

sources? There's are many, but here's a small narration of japanese letters and scriptures from that time:
https://youtu.be/_-jWZvPTRIA?t=1209

>>719030879 (OP)
>Why is this so uncommon in games from this country?
Because the Japanese can never understand Christianity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTqY1j7wgD4

>>719030879 (OP)
>>church neutral at worst
Eh? They've got some bad eggs, but they're effectively the Men in Black of the Nasuverse, keeping the supernatural world at bay while trying (largely rather successfully too) to keep human world unaffected by the crazy shit going on beyond the shadows.
Basically. Not exaggerate. But it's pretty much thanks to the Church that humanity aren't the cattle of whatever monstrous/magical freaks also inhabits the earth.

>>719030879 (OP)
>>719037461
>church neutral at worst
I'm illiterate too I seems
I read "at best" like a retard, and instantly thought of the interpretations of the church on series like Hellsing, final fantasy 13, and type moon
>>719037641
good scene

>>719037461
You should use Christian in air quotes. Japanese syncretism made their dogma heretical from the start and encouraged the kind of schizo personality cult shit that got them in trouble over the centuries

>>719038073
>You should use Christian in air quotes
you're right I forgot the quotes there for "chirstian" based cults