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Anonymous No.719037694 >>719037880 >>719038668 >>719038845 >>719039689 >>719039917 >>719040160 >>719040407 >>719041227 >>719041338 >>719041359 >>719041492 >>719043229 >>719044810 >>719046514 >>719046794 >>719046796 >>719047321 >>719049790 >>719050849 >>719051424 >>719056776 >>719057152 >>719057275 >>719057839
Doom
Something that always bothered me. Shouldn't "Christian" fundies LOVE Doom? It's a game where you play as a big beefy soldier man who busts into Hell to kill every demon he sees. Shocked they don't assume this is in the Bible.
Anonymous No.719037880 >>719039301 >>719050924
>>719037694 (OP)
every single person who testified against video games in those congressional hearings was jewish
Meanwhile Sandy Peterson who worked on Doom 2 is a Mormon
Anonymous No.719038263 >>719046314 >>719046796
Christian here
You cant defeat demons with guns
The game is purely fictional so it doesnt matter if the player is Christian or not
Its just fun to shoot demons regardless
Anonymous No.719038552 >>719038831
When doom was attempted to be banned its plot was never considered
It had demonic imagery and guns and that was enough
Anonymous No.719038668 >>719038756 >>719039301 >>719039381 >>719049873
>>719037694 (OP)
in christianity any form of art that isn't specifically depicting a biblical event is blasphemy as it depicts false idols
Anonymous No.719038756
>>719038668
Maybe in protestantism
Anonymous No.719038831 >>719039557
>>719038552
>conservatives
>trying to ban stuff because it has guns in it
PFFFFFFFFFT!!!
Anonymous No.719038845 >>719038961
>>719037694 (OP)
>expecting fundies to use logic

That's your first mistake.
Anonymous No.719038961 >>719039138 >>719041557
>>719038845
>fundies
Which ones? Name a single one (it was always jews)
Anonymous No.719039138 >>719039189
>>719038961
You're thinking that fundies can be reasoned with, but if they really could, there wouldn't be any fundies left. You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.
Anonymous No.719039189 >>719039308
>>719039138
Dude what the fuck are you talking about "fundies" are just a jewish distraction from jews trying to ban everything all the time.
Anonymous No.719039301 >>719039383 >>719039386 >>719039643
>>719038668
proties aren't christian
>>719037880
and neither are mormons
Anonymous No.719039308 >>719039502
>>719039189
Thank you for proving my point, you've been very helpful.
Anonymous No.719039381
>>719038668
What Islamic bullshit is this
Anonymous No.719039383
>>719039301
That's right, the only REAL Christians are the ones who are exactly like me. I am the only real Christian. I'm God's favorite child. I'm God. I'm literally God. WORSHIP ME! PRAISE ME! LOOK AT MEEEEEEEEEEEE!
Anonymous No.719039386
>>719039301
>that wasn't REAL christianity
gas all christkikes
Anonymous No.719039502
>>719039308
lol shalom sewer rat
Anonymous No.719039557 >>719039713
>>719038831
Former president Reagan wrote a letter in support of the 1994 federal assault weapon ban, and DOOM came out in 93. Anti-gun sentiment was relatively high and bipartisan at the time. The whole
conservative = guns
thing came later.
Anonymous No.719039643 >>719039971 >>719040065
>>719039301
is real Christianity the one where they decided they wanted to change some things about gods word and created the modern version of the bible
Anonymous No.719039689 >>719039798
>>719037694 (OP)
Because fundies are all retards who think shooting demons' heads off with a shotgun equates to worshipping them
Anonymous No.719039713 >>719039948
>>719039557
lol yeah that 1994 bill signed by clinton and bragged about by biden were sure conservative, just like hollywood actor ronald regan the former governor of california
Anonymous No.719039798 >>719039942
>>719039689
>jew replies to the OP not realizing we can see his ID
go back
Anonymous No.719039917
>>719037694 (OP)
This post reminds me of someone I know who didn't understand why devout Christians frowned upon Magic: The Gathering, because "wHaT aBoUt ThE wHiTe CaRdS?" (angel-type creatures etc.). Like I think you're missing the fucking point here. They object to MTG not because some cards depict bad guys, but because the whole thing essentially glorifies witchcraft and, moreover, is full of occult imagery/ideas in the context of those things being perceived by players as totally fucking cool. And they object to Doom because of the satanic imagery and moreover the fact that the satanic imagery is meant to be awesome as fuck (and it is). "But I'm enjoying the act of KILLING the demons" doesn't really change anything, unless your post is meant as a rebuttal to some weirdo who claimed the demons getting shot from a first-person view are the protagonists, or some other shit that never happened.
Anonymous No.719039942 >>719041295
>>719039798
You've got the wrong board schizo
Anonymous No.719039948 >>719041295
>>719039713
Yes. Glad you agree.
Anonymous No.719039971
>>719039643
Questioning the accuracy of the modern bible compared to the originals outs you as someone that knows little about the subject. There are more early/original manuscripts of biblical books than any other literature in existence. It's orders of magnitude easier to verify that that the bible says what it originally did than it is to verify that the Odyssey or Plato's Republic matches the original.

You can disagree with the bible's message and claim it's full of lies just fine, but saying it was changed over time is a brainlet take.
Anonymous No.719040065 >>719042081 >>719042391
>>719039643
worthless minutia
All you have to do is believe Jesus resurrected and that you are saved by grace as we are all shitters and you are golden
People waste too much time arguing about stupid crap
Anonymous No.719040160 >>719040686
>>719037694 (OP)
I don't understand religion because everyone's got their own variation and rules and some people are strict about them and others aren't and honestly I guess I'm going to hell and I'm a heretic or some shit no matter what I do.
Anonymous No.719040407 >>719041323 >>719042064 >>719042278 >>719043648 >>719044082
>>719037694 (OP)
The answer I've seen given is that only God can defeat the devil and his angels. To portray a man doing it is blasphemous.
Anonymous No.719040686
>>719040160
Don't get your religion from social media, including a zimbabwean pear-peeling forum like 4chan. The explanation you get from any random clergy member of any religion is going to be vastly more coherent than anything you see spouted online by Anonymous.
Anonymous No.719041152
>be an old church lady in the '90s
>see grandchild playing Doom
>there's a big red pentagram on the floor
>kid goes "dude, AWESOME"
Gee, I wonder what the problem is.
Don't those stupid Christians know the evil demons are the target of the child's bloodlust?
Anonymous No.719041227
>>719037694 (OP)
christian fundies back then correctly assumed that video games make you violent and umpathetic. obviously right now, christian fundies have been psyopped by the jews and now love violence and rejecting human empathy
Anonymous No.719041295 >>719041394 >>719056071
>>719039942
>>719039948
lol cope and seethe jew
Anonymous No.719041323 >>719042229 >>719043436
>>719040407
Counterpoint; "God helps those who help themselves."
Anonymous No.719041338
>>719037694 (OP)
Christians would rather be brides of Christs.
Anonymous No.719041359 >>719041881
>>719037694 (OP)
Christians aren't really Christians because they don't actually follow the teachings of Christ to love thy neighbor and all that stuff. They're all a bunch of satanic hate-filled bastards
Anonymous No.719041394 >>719041549
>>719041295
Okay retarded nigger explain how shooting demons is the same as worshipping them
Anonymous No.719041449
I honestly don't remember anyone being anti-DOOM until the Columbine shooting, as the news was screaming about how those guys played a DOOM mod map of the school or something, and DOOM got shit on by association. Before then, everybody was making DOOM clones. Hell, I remember getting one from Taco Bell and another in a cereal box.
Anonymous No.719041492
>>719037694 (OP)
when I was a kid my granny saw me playing Doom II, and this was my response. "Look, I'm defeating the demons like jesus wants!" and of course the response was nothing more than a "No not like that, go to your room"

>not playing games in your own room
back in the days of "the computer room"
Anonymous No.719041549 >>719041575 >>719056071
>>719041394
who claimed that, jew?
Anonymous No.719041557 >>719041617
>>719038961
Jews can be fundies too, like Dennis Prager.
Anonymous No.719041575 >>719041617
>>719041549
You did you fucking retard
Anonymous No.719041617 >>719041840 >>719056071
>>719041557
>>719041575
lol seething jew
Anonymous No.719041840 >>719042041
>>719041617
>Still not explaining how shooting demons is the same as worshipping them
Don't forget to livestream your suicide when you go, please
Anonymous No.719041881 >>719041951
>>719041359
>someone that doesn't know anything about christianity lecturing about christianity
Anonymous No.719041951
>>719041881
>cathcuck claiming to be Christian
LOL
Anonymous No.719042041 >>719042109 >>719056071
>>719041840
lol kike so mad
Anonymous No.719042064 >>719042280
>>719040407
What the fuck?
What about stuff like Constantine and Supernatural then?
Anonymous No.719042081
>>719040065
And of course the infallibility of the pope
Anonymous No.719042109
>>719042041
Anonymous No.719042229 >>719042327 >>719043436
>>719041323
That saying isnt anywhere in the bible.
Anonymous No.719042263
They can wear the mask of evangelism or wokism or whatever comes next, but it's always been the same people: women
Anonymous No.719042278
>>719040407
Protestardism has been one of the greatest disasters that happened to the west.
Anonymous No.719042280
>>719042064
What makes you think the people who object to Doom on religious grounds approve of those other things? Did you ask them? Or are you just assuming they're okay with anything that the news didn't report on them hating?
Anonymous No.719042327
>>719042229
It's in the part where Peter walks in on Jesus whacking off
Anonymous No.719042391 >>719042834
>>719040065
>People waste too much time arguing about stupid crap
>that entire fight about whether sacrament was the literal body of christ or a metaphor for the body of christ between luther and zwingli
>most of the people who died over this shit couldnt even read
Anonymous No.719042834
>>719042391
It was a geopolitical conflict. Northern European monarchs wanted Rome to stop interfering, so they made up some theological shit to get the peasants to fight for their bottom line.
Anonymous No.719043229 >>719043663
>>719037694 (OP)
You don't kill em with the power of Jesus. Killing demons with bullets undermines the necessity of the divine.
Anonymous No.719043436 >>719043845
>>719042229
>>719041323
You don't do shit for God, God doesn't do shit for you.
You help yourself by unironically learning and practicing the gospel and obeying God's will. Family and those you care for getting blessed too if you do exceptionally well.
It clearly states so on Proverbs, Ecclesiastes and even a few psalms
long story short God does the impossible and grants victory as long as (You) walk upright along the path to him, aka follow his commandments and do what he demands of you on top of it.
God will never save you, help you or get you ahead if you do jack shit and specially don't obey his rules and better yourself for God โ€“which "coincidentally" also gets you ahead in life because doing things right instead of half assed or spitefully tend to get you ahead of the average lay fuck

>b-but hur hur what bout those that never do shit for God and do wonderfully in life or those that do follow God and get shit on and die horribly
pick whatever lets you sleep at night here
>Truth (for Christians): Life on earth isn't bout what you get but about finding God and doing his will.
This shit is clearly stated on Ecclesiastes, you don't even need to believe me. Read the book, it's a 20 min read you lazy bastard.
>for the rest: it's christian cope, they think you'll get a cookie on the afterlife for being a good boy. The rest will die and get no cookie!


irrelevant chatolic nun picture because nuns are hot as fuck.
Anonymous No.719043648
>>719040407
More like
to portray a man defeating the Devil and his angels is Blasphemous
Anonymous No.719043663 >>719043963
>>719043229
>You don't kill em with the power of Jesus
From God himself comes Wisdom, Intelligence, Understanding and SCIENCE
Jesus opened the gates of the new pact to the whole world, so I can find God and receive his gifts
hence God gave me these bullets I faithfully use to commit demoncide
Anonymous No.719043845
>>719043436
>It clearly states so on Proverbs, Ecclesiastes and even a few psalms
it's all over the old testament, those 3 books mentioned there are where it's chewed down so the mentally handicapped can understand it better
Anonymous No.719043963
>>719043663
based modern crusader, keep fighting the good fight brother
Anonymous No.719044082 >>719046264
>>719040407
sounds something jews would say so people dont try to unalive them
Anonymous No.719044810
>>719037694 (OP)
Is that fanart? The cover for Doom looks like this.
Anonymous No.719046264 >>719047974
>>719044082
>post literally talking about murder of jews
>but saying the word "kill" is still a no-no
Now THAT'S some peak zoomer comedy, lmao
Anonymous No.719046314 >>719046417 >>719052621
>>719038263
>God didn't order the israelites to kill the canaanites nooo sire
Anonymous No.719046417
>>719046314
kek
don't tell em the truth
Anonymous No.719046514 >>719046665
>>719037694 (OP)
This was the only game my die hard Catholic grandparents ever let me play at their house. Imagine two Catholic Mexicans who barely speak Spanish, who grew up in the depression and with a grandfather who survived the pacific campaign after enlisting with the US armed forces. My dad told them(since it was on his laptop) that you're playing a Christian who must save Earth from all of Hell.
He explains this to two people who cried at the Passion of the Christ.
I don't know what he said but he got them to approve of it in their house.
Anonymous No.719046665 >>719047172
>>719046514
Based dad. But if I may "uhm actually", as far as I know, there's no confirmation of Doomguy's religious leanings. He's just made because the bastards killed his bunny.
Anonymous No.719046794
>>719037694 (OP)
I've looked into this. They don't like it for the same reason they don't like Harry Potter, even if you're defeating evil you're "welcoming it into your home" by depicting it in such a way.
Anonymous No.719046796 >>719060535
>>719037694 (OP)
Easy. It contains pentagrams and other demonic symbols, plus the fact it depicts blood and violence. Plenty of old people across the board were uncomfortable with violent video games. The fundamentalists specifically didn't like that there was demonic imagery at all, even if it was tied to the bad guys in the game. Which makes some sense if you believe, as the more traditional Christians do, that material symbols can function as conduits of sorts for spiritual power. For example, the Cross, images of the angels and saints, the rosary, the Sacraments, and of course this applies as well to demonic or satanic symbols. Though to be sure this might be an issue for someone more versed in Christian theology than myself.

>>719038263
Based.
Anonymous No.719047172
>>719046665
When you fight actual demons from the Judeo-Christian afterlife, I'm pretty sure somewhere along the line you're going to convert to some form of Christianity.
Anonymous No.719047321
>>719037694 (OP)
Christfags at the time didn't grow up around video games, while also believing everything they saw on TV as true, and the media was extremely jealous of the video games industry.
Anonymous No.719047838
The end of Doom 2 says:
>Earth is saved. Hell is a wreck. You wonder where bad folks will go when they die, now.

You did a better job than Jesus who only saved certain people from hell.
Anonymous No.719047974 >>719048403
>>719046264
i just wanted to say it different anon
Anonymous No.719048135 >>719049035
I'ma be honest, I thought the Icon of Sin in Doom Eternal looked kinda... Gay. Like, sure, this is one giant fucking goat monster. But from how it was presented and from how it was described in Doom II, we only fought its head because everything else was held down and stretching for literal miles across Hell itself, like some great, skeletal beast.
Anonymous No.719048403
>>719047974
np, i just found the word choice funny is all
Anonymous No.719049035
>>719048135
yep zoom and zoom eternal sucked ass
Anonymous No.719049790
>>719037694 (OP)
sane ones do. you don't turn the other cheek involving literal demons...
Anonymous No.719049873
>>719038668
how is battling demons, not depicting Revelations
Anonymous No.719050849
>>719037694 (OP)
Doom was never good.
Anonymous No.719050924
>>719037880
Wasnโ€™t the guy who wrote the doom tie in novels also Mormon ?
Anonymous No.719051424
>>719037694 (OP)
This is something Iโ€™ve thought about a lot. Despite it being about killing demons, the main appeal of the game is the violence, blood, and cool demonic imagery.
In the newer ones this is even more true, the death metal, satanic aesthetic is most definitely the main draw of the game. Of course you *can* play the game trying to consciously enjoy it as a โ€œHoly Warriorโ€, but I think most people picking it up are just in for a violent, demonic romp
Anonymous No.719052621
>>719046314
Anonymous No.719053282 >>719053964 >>719059397
Killing demons in doom is literally the same as killing jews.
Jews are demons.
They will proceed to seethe at this fact.
Anonymous No.719053964
>>719053282
incredibly based
Anonymous No.719056071 >>719056229
>>719041295
>>719041617
lol arrest yourself and go to bed poorfag.
>>719041549
anyone that aren't porofags.
>>719042041
poorfag is malding
Anonymous No.719056229 >>719058114
>>719056071
u mad?
Anonymous No.719056776
>>719037694 (OP)
I swear I've seen this OP before...
Anonymous No.719057152
>>719037694 (OP)
in Doom 'Hell' is an alternate dimension so that means its in space somewhere. The Bible is Earth focused only and 'Hell' is 4 chambers for holding souls underground not a lavaland where imps and demons run around rampantly. With that said I am christian and I like it but its purposefully retrofit everything into a scifi context and the new games are 100% detatched from any biblical notions in the lore.
Anonymous No.719057275
>>719037694 (OP)
I saw a video of a priest basically calling the game based. probably depends who you ask.
Anonymous No.719057839 >>719058083 >>719058096 >>719059465
>>719037694 (OP)
violence is anti-christian
Anonymous No.719058083
>>719057839
no it isn't faggot, kill yourself.
Anonymous No.719058096
>>719057839
I agree but its a wildly unpopular take. For example I saw a catholic apologist video one time essentially saying the rules for Christian living are different depending on if they are 'in power' or not. lol nice copout so you can justify literally anything with that view.
Anonymous No.719058114
>>719056229
no u malding bald
Anonymous No.719059397
>>719053282
both harm children and promote evil, makes sense
Anonymous No.719059465
>>719057839
Jesus Christ kicked over the temple tables for worshipping greed and avarice! dumbass
Anonymous No.719060535
>>719046796
The cross is just an unfolded black cube and Christianity is full of camel-fucker talmudic sophistry and symbolism. While physical representations of "bad things" are against Christianity, the core tenet of "God is good due to the sacrifice of Jesus and the Cross" falls apart pretty fucking hard if you study any of the history of the religion.