Thread 719050570

What's the recipee for a good Bioshock meal

>>719050570 (OP)
Eggs milk and flour
Bake for half an hour
Fry it on the back of my spatulaaaa

>>719050570 (OP)
>little sister pussy
>baste in cum
>leave in hot car

Is bioshock 2 worth playing now?

>>719054169
I finally got around to playing the first one all the way through. It felt like 30-50 hours, but Steam says it was 9.4 hours. 2 is the ending part of 1 with escorting and protecting little sisters, and puts it on repeat.

>>719054169
2 has better gameplay than 1, but 1 has a better story. just being able to use a plasmid and weapon at the same time makes a huge difference. in 1 you spend half the combat flipping through your quickslots.

>>719054169
No and it never was. The initial allure of Bioshock is that feeling of hopelessness and feeling like you're in over your head but that disappears pretty quickly, like 2 hours in after you become Superman. Bioshock 2 is even worse because you're this hulking Big Daddy...you never really feel like you're in any real danger, like the first game. The 3rd game is literally just Call of Duty.

>>719055279
I don't think helplessness was ever the main point. You're a scrappy underdog, but it's not like it's a horror game or anything.

>>719055353
Those first 2 hours fell like some Silent Hill+Dead Space type of shit. And then you find vending machines that turn you into Superman and that feeling is immediately gone. Maybe it's because I was a freshmen in high school when Bioshock released but I was scared pissless when I first played it.

>>719056730
>Maybe it's because I was a freshmen in high school when Bioshock released but I was scared pissless when I first played it.
Maybe it's because you're a sissy faggot

>>719050570 (OP)
Man up and play Ultima Underworld instead.

is there any activity for bioshock 2 multiplayer? i used to love that

i don't rrrrreally like ken levine or jewish people all that much

>>719055353
>it's not like it's a horror game or anything.
Bioshock is a pure horror game during the first two levels

>>719057321
Would a palestinian made bioshock game be better?

>>719057114
>seething this hard
Why are you so butthurt faggot?

>>719057379
maybe but any gentile creator would have made it better

>>719050570 (OP)
>future-thinking visionary losing the plot
>cool location/setting
>alternate-history tech
>high-ranking unhappy players vying for power
>a fish-out-of-water protag without all the information
>then sprinkle on some religious and political archetypes
It's quite embarrassing how easy and formulaic Bioshock as a concept is, how much of a powerhouse mega-franchise it could be. But how much the AAA struggle to make single entries.
Apparently BS4 is having troubles and Rod Fergusson got called in again lol

>>719057642
>cool location/setting
All taken

>>719056730
>>719057369
I guess you guys are right, I forgot about that first stretch there.

>>719050570 (OP)
>cult series
>play both games
>they are utter shit
>play "the bad one"
>it's actually the best game in the series
How the hell did people think Infinite was a remotely good game and that 2 is worse than 1?

>>719050570 (OP)
Ingredients:
-darkness
-drip noises
-flickering lights
-screeching
-vistas
-gore
-maniacal laughter
-grunting
-metal clanking
-turquoise
-urban decay
-podcasts
-carnival sounds
-guns
-corridors
-mooks
-1 copy of philosophy for dummies
-violins
-A/B morality testing
-breakaway society
(optional, to taste)
-waifu
-daughterfu
-time travel
Take all the ingredients, mix them together in unreal engine then shove them up ken levines ass for 3-5 years. Voila, you now have yourself a tasty bioshock. Enjoy

>>719057706
not even close
Bioshock didn't even get far enough to exhaust traditional earth history settings, let alone alt-history settings, let alone^2 get enough entries in to start having to go alien
We stopped at
>underwater
>underwater part 2
>high in the sky

>>719057770
2 didn't get nearly the level of marketing that 1 did. There were trailers everywhere, interviews, gameplay demos. 1 was hyped up as "the spiritual successor to system shock". 2 just kind of flew under the radar and once the hypnosis of 1 wore off a lot of people were complaining about 2 as a vessel for what they didn't like about 1.

>>719050570 (OP)
They really hyped up "feeling like a juggernaut" in BS2 but you felt just as fragile as in BS1 except with a fisheye lens and dual wields, that was a letdown. Sure you weren't a regular Big Daddy but still...

I hate when devs do that like Bungie(?) in Halo: Recon where the ODST is "way more vulnerable" and then you still have regenerating "shields" and can carry mounted turrets.

>>719057770
In the public consciousness, most "good" games/movies/books whatever are only good because they were convinced they were good before they ever got their hands on them. If you've never read the emperors new clothes, it's a good story explaining this concept or phenomena.
Bioshock 1 is actually kind of shit and gets boring as fuck like halfway through becoming a tedious grind but it was so hyped up as a 2deep4u mature thinking man's children's toy at the time, criticism was silenced because if you didn't like it you were surely stupid.
Bioshock 2 is better than Bioshock 1 because it's a mechanically refined version and much shorter, but it's still a 7/10 sequel to a 5/10 game. Bioshock infinite pulled the same trick as Bioshock 1, where the trailers are exciting and emotionally evocative, every journalist is blowing smoke up it's ass, but this time criticism was silenced by equating criticism of it to racism.
It's the same formula for most blockbuster media.
-Make a really great trailer for it. (that often times ends up being better than the game itself.)
-Have a bunch of paid talking heads praise it
-Put some political hot topic in it, so that it can't be criticized without becoming the bad guy
-Sell a mediocre piece of shit as a masterpiece
-People don't realize it's just mediocre and they've been duped until years later "once the dust has settled"
A couple of examples:
Bioshock 1:
-Incredible cinematic trailer, still a good watch
-Praised by Journos and Gaming Pundits everywhere.
-Political hot topic of objectivism, any criticism just means you're too stupid to understand it.
-A bog standard corridor shooter praised as a masterpiece.
Bioshock Infinite:
-Incredible cinematic trailer showcasing columbia, gets everyone hyped.
-Praised by Journos and Gaming Pundits everywhere, most fun they've had in years.
-Political hot topic of racial segregation, any criticism of it means you are a racist.
-Sell a bog standard shooter that gets praised as a masterpiece.

>>719054169
2 is actually fun to play unlike 1
Also, everyone glazes 1's story, but I thought it was absolutely nothing special

>>719059471
>because it's a mechanically refined version
lol, they had you, as a big-daddy, doing stealth shit and laying batman traps.
Bioshock 2 is a schizophrenic game.

>>719059651
The point that you're missing is that it's better gameplay than the first one, and in a vacuum playing all three bioshock games years later without the hype surrounding them, it's the best of the series. If you had played them at the time and fallen for the hype, you'd think 2 was the worst because it was the only one you were publicly allowed to criticize without being conflated with an idiot or a racist.

>>719057770
unironic non-gamer franchise, anyone shilling Bio1 must be a normie that was impressed by a whatever twist at the end during 360 era and still thinks it's good for that reason

>>719050570 (OP)
No inventory
A perk system instead of a skill tree
Pretentious dialogue with characters you barely know
Spongy enemies
Low movespeed
Horrible moral choices
No atmosphere

Combine and you have yourself the best 4/10 consolized System shock clone ever made. But if youre an Xbox360 zoomer who has only ever played CoD and Halo that 4/10 will taste like a 10/10

>>719059778
>The point that you're missing is that it's better gameplay than the first one
it's really not in the most foundational way.
they messed up the core gimmick of playing as a big daddy, and the game had no identity of its own, it was just skinwalking bioshock 1

>>719059471
so you are saying solo leveling/frieren are considered by overwhelming amount of people as good only because they were hyped up in the first place? That makes sense.

>>719050570 (OP)
Playing system shock before biocock will blackpill you on it
Just like Fallout 1 and 2 before 3
Just like Kingsfield 4 before Dark souls
Old games were in fact much better

>>719060057
original system shock 1 is fucking terrible, quit LARPing

>>719060003
Yeah, you fell for the hype of being told that you were going to play as the meme of a big daddy and didn't look at the game objectively. It's more fun to play than bioshick 1. It's a better game. You got memed bro.
>>719060032
Correct, tried watching frieren and it's the most derivative boring pandering shit on the planet. Don't know about Solo Leveling.

>>719060057
Kingsfield 4 blows.

>>719060032
That is how redditors think. Hivemind + inexperience + extremely low quality taste

>>719060098
>Yeah, you fell for the hype of being told that you were going to play as the meme of a big daddy
you have to be trolling

>>719060121
Try getting past the first 2 minutes zoomie

>>719060098
I wouldn't call frieren derivative. Mostly because I cant think of another anime where every character is monotone and utterly lifeless
Its uniquely terrible

>>719060057
you don't need to play system shock to know Bio1 is bad

>>719060084
Zoomer, go zoom somewhere else.

>>719060416
you have never completed original system shock 1

>>719050570 (OP)
the creme filled cake
that's it

>>719060312
>>719060098
it's hilarious that you're probably the same retards that always complain about anime being overly-expressive, and then when a less-animated one releases, you complain it's dull and lifeless

>>719050570 (OP)
Did you really think that that's how you spell recipe? That's hilarious

>>719060446
I did twice. First time on 2's and 3 on puzzles, second time on all 3's except for 2 on mission. Try harder.

>>719060569
that's a nice claim with 0 evidence, LARPer

>>719060187
Seriously, they were hyping up the tagline "Play as the Big Daddy", but if you had actually been paying attention they explicity revealed that you were playing as "a prototype version of the big daddy" and that he was going to play similar to the protaganist of bioshock 1. The only reason to be disappointed by the lie that you were "playing as the big daddy" was if you got memed. Which you did.
>>719060312
It's derivative in it's setting imo. It's the whole "totally not a video game" setting we've seen before in Konosuba. If you haven't seen anime settings where it literally is a video game without the pretense like Moster Rancher, Sword Art Online, .Hack, etc.
The only thing I found interesting was it's hook, that the main quest has already been completed and the story takes place after but it abandons that hook after the first few episodes when they form a new party and get a main quest anyways. The entire hook was bullshit but it's the marketing tagline for frieren. It's "not like other anime" because it's like totally an epilogue bro, just trust me!
>>719060496
Go watch fist of the north star if you want less frames of animation.

>>719060608
What kind of evidence do you need? This, you mean?

>>719055279
What? Like immediately im Bioshock 2 despite being a Big Daddy Lamb Fs you over calls you an animal and leaves you to die. Thats as helpless as you can get.

Youre also a prototype an alpha unit thats weak as hell compared to the others and Splicers have absolutely no hesitation on ganging up on Big Daddy's. They never were scared of them as their addiction made their fiend nature overpower their fear.

In fact there's plenty of lore that says Splicers were taking down Big Daddy's like cavemen were to a Wooly Mammoth.

>>719060651
>Seriously, they were hyping up the tagline "Play as the Big Daddy", but if you had actually been paying attention they explicity revealed that you were playing as "a prototype version of the big daddy" and that he was going to play similar to the protaganist of bioshock 1. The only reason to be disappointed by the lie that you were "playing as the big daddy" was if you got memed. Which you did.
this whole statement just bolsters my point
Bioshock 2 is so shit they had to lie to you, and then you're in the wrong for feeling slighted by being lied to.
This shit is more jewish than than entirety of bioshock 1

>>719060770
In fact you can say its actually worse to be a Big Daddy in rapture than Jack

>Jack ODs and splicers just laugh at how he popped his cherry
Meanwhile from the get go splicers see you as a source of sustenance. Cause a Big Daddy means a Little Sister isnt too far and that means ADAM.

So you are a buck in a land full of hunters

>>719057219
Unc shilling his boomer ahh games again

>>719060854
But bioshock 1 lied to you even harder by claiming it was going to be system shock, then selling you half life with perks. It's the whole reason they put "shock" in the title. Bioshock 2 didn't have the same level of hype that Bioshock 1 did. It was still hyped, but it was more niche and most people completely avoided the hype, unless you were following it like I was at the time.
Regardless of the hype though, bioshock 2 is the most fun to play out of all of them, but even then it's just a story driven corridor shooter like half life.

>>719060003
>gimmick of playing as a big daddy,
>>719060854
Also, your whole "point" is that you fell for the marketing hype which is my point. Point taken?

>>719061090
>claiming it was going to be system shock
when did it do that?

>>719061170
Sorry you missed it bro. It's still being lied about today:
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=Bioshock+spiritual+succesor+to+system+shock

>>719061170
It's story copycatting SS2? Having shock in the name and made by Ken Levine? Similiar mechanics to SS2 like plasmids and their effects, and hacking minigames? Destructible cameras?

>>719054169
The gameplay is good but very repetitive.

>>719061338
I think you need to learn what words actually mean
>A spiritual successor (sometimes called a spiritual sequel) is a product or fictional work that is similar to, or directly inspired by, another previous product or work
>but (unlike a traditional prequel or sequel) does not explicitly continue the product line or media franchise of its predecessor,
>and is thus only a successor "in spirit".[1][2]
>Spiritual successors often have similar themes and styles to their preceding material, but are generally a distinct intellectual property.[3]
Now pay attention, here's the IMPORTANT part
>but are generally a distinct intellectual property.
>but are generally a distinct intellectual property.
>but are generally a distinct intellectual property.

>>719061463
Oh we're being pedantic instead of refuting arguments now.

>>719059903
>>719057770
you guys have shit taste.

>>719061495
>pedantic is informing you that words have specific meanings you can't throw around to mean whatever you want
Let me reiterate
>a distinct intellectual property.
>a distinct intellectual property.
>a distinct intellectual property.

>>719061495
Nigga your question have been answered in full form in >>719061368

>>719061542
>gets memed
>throws a tantrum
alright man, it's gonna be okay. have you heard about call of duty 9 it's going to be a masterpiece!

>>719061618
>tries to epically own
>doesn't know the difference between sequel and spiritual successor
>u-uhm w-why are you being so p-pedantic
pathetic, i thought BS2 cultists were supposed to be intelligent?

>>719061681
>pointing out you got memed is trying to own you because you are embarrassed you got duped, proceed to argue for the sake of arguing
jokes on me for trying to help you. fuck off kid. remember this the next time you fall for some marketing tagline and refused to listen.
Also, on boishock as a series. Largely I think it's overhyped and you can avoid it entirely. It's most memorable moment is the twist at the end of the 1st, if that's been spoiled for you there's really no point to playing any of them when way better linear cinematic shooters exist. The only memorable thing about infinite is the Disney Waifu and the porn of her. Even though Bioshock 2 has the best gameplay of the series, that isn't saying much because it's not hard to have better gameplay.
Bioshock 1: Meh but oh what a tweeest
Bioshock 2: Meh but more playable
Bioshock Infinite: Meh but fuckable disney princess

>>719054169
I prefer 2 by a country mile, personally.
Only thing 1 has over it, is the ability to revisit previous areas.

>>719050570 (OP)
>Retro-Futurism
>Great Art Design
>The Enemies are characters in themselves with personalities in their wandering gibbering instead of just "bad guy"
>A high and mighty person thinks they can use Science-Fiction to make ideology work; it doesn't
>Cool ass Splicer Powers
>Great Audio Logs
>Great exploration to find goodies and secrets

I think that covers it.

>>719054169
It always was. It's not a writing hitter like the first, but it still does well.

>>719055279
Bioshock has always been about showing how beautiful art deco is under the allure of fighting super crackheads in underwater Chicago.

>>719050570 (OP)
Sea slugs, salt and pepper

>>719054169
>no extreme difficulty mode


Fucking stupid

>>719064480
Bioshock 1 wasn't even remotely difficult, even on max. Not a big loss.

>>719050570 (OP)
>want a survival spinoff of rapture
>improved gunplay
>sneaking around like a rat to hustle supplies back to the underwater lounge
>pve coop events with other rats living in the stolen properties and walls of rapture
things that will never be as this industry has been destroyed

>>719060496
No, my favorite anime is milky holmes. I want that shit insane, unfiltered, and hard.

>>719050570 (OP)
System Shock but in an older time period and exotic location, it's simple. Also if you're gonna attempt scale like early-Infinite did, don't turn the game into Halo.

>>719057321
Ken Levine didn't write BioShock 2

>>719054169
I want to play it one day but I wish that the remasters were actually properly done. They are a butchered version of the games. For now I will have to settle for taking out the 360 again if I want to get around to Bioshock 2.

>>719061074
Why do you people get scared mid sentence

>>719065212
That's because you didn't play it the intended way according to my own schizophrenia and autism.