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Anonymous No.719057507 >>719057678 >>719057686 >>719057740 >>719058097 >>719058358 >>719058792 >>719059054 >>719059396 >>719059732 >>719059915 >>719061470 >>719061573 >>719061625 >>719062258 >>719062279 >>719062410 >>719063340 >>719063397 >>719063430 >>719066018 >>719068401 >>719068429 >>719068501 >>719070912 >>719070919 >>719074871 >>719079981 >>719080062 >>719080663 >>719082626 >>719086319
Controller.
Anonymous No.719057632 >>719064901
K+M for shooters and strategy, controller for everything else. Using K+M for everything is just cope.
Anonymous No.719057678
>>719057507 (OP)
Better for what
Both have their use cases
Anonymous No.719057686 >>719057734 >>719058289 >>719058898 >>719060221 >>719062314 >>719063514 >>719064298 >>719067180 >>719067325 >>719074321 >>719076975 >>719088235
>>719057507 (OP)
who the hell uses a controller for anything? Keyboard and mouse is superior to every option for every game.
Anonymous No.719057727 >>719070596 >>719070827
Controller. Games should be designed not to require really quick camera panning that require the use of a mouse.
Anonymous No.719057734 >>719061812 >>719068075 >>719068501
>>719057686
its bad for platformers
Anonymous No.719057740
>>719057507 (OP)
depends on the game
but if you're playing shooters besides halo with a controller i hope you get AIDS and die
Anonymous No.719058097 >>719058215
>>719057507 (OP)
People say controllers are mandatory for action games because they're too fat and slow to use a keyboard. The only exception is Nier Automata because of the shitty port.
Anonymous No.719058215 >>719068501
>>719058097
I mean, you have no analogue control on a keyboard
Anonymous No.719058289
>>719057686
Agree. Mouse and keyboard trumps everything. Controller is for casuals.
Anonymous No.719058358
>>719057507 (OP)
controller is more comfortable to hold then keyboard.. keyboard feels like shit(xbox controller is shit ps5 controller is better)
Anonymous No.719058384 >>719058598
Controllers are garbage although I would like a little thumb stick next to my keyboard for directional movement. Most games that people think "need" a controller are just console slop with terrible kbm controls.
Anonymous No.719058598 >>719058704
>>719058384
>controllers are garbage
>I wish my keyboard was a controller
Zoomers, ladies and gentlemen.
Anonymous No.719058704
>>719058598
Kill yourself, retard.
Anonymous No.719058792 >>719058957 >>719074950 >>719080130 >>719081542
>>719057507 (OP)
Anonymous No.719058816
Depends on the amount of aim assist

The more the game does the heavy lifting for the player, the controller becomes better

The more the game puts on the player, KB+M is better
Anonymous No.719058898 >>719059009
>>719057686
If you play a racing game with kbm you're an utterly retarded subhuman.
Anonymous No.719058957
>>719058792
Based
Anonymous No.719059009 >>719066527
>>719058898
>has never played trackmania
Anonymous No.719059054
>>719057507 (OP)
Depends on the genre.
Anyone claiming otherwise is a fool.
Anonymous No.719059296 >>719061104
The only kind of game that benefits from a controller is something with a vehicle focus, but that's only if the game doesn't have a camera-guided steering option.
If it's a combined arms game, the keyboard and mouse is still good as you typically want to maximize your turn rate in a tank or whatever in as little time as possible. Planes may be another story, an analog stick may be preferable, unless there is camera-guided turning.

If it's a racing game, the analog stick is the way to go.
Mouse & Keyboard is superior in every other genre.
Anonymous No.719059396
>>719057507 (OP)
i use a controller to play action games like Devil May Cry or First Berserker Khazan and fighting games, but i use a keyboard and mouse for everything else.
Anonymous No.719059732
>>719057507 (OP)
You're the kind of retard that would use a wrench to hammer a nail.
Anonymous No.719059915
>>719057507 (OP)
It depends.
Have you tried to play platformers on KB+M? SRB2 and A Hat in Time were outright great with the mouse handling the camera
Anonymous No.719060221
>>719057686
I like racing games.
Anonymous No.719060303
I enjoy Skyrim more on a controller.
Anonymous No.719061104 >>719064028 >>719068376 >>719069394
>>719059296
>Mouse & Keyboard is superior in every other genre
Third person action games like Nioh are unplayable on kbm.
Anonymous No.719061443 >>719062195
The only "people" who say KB+M is better than controller for everything are MMO/Moba players and competitive fps players. The first merely because of macros and extra hotkeys, the latter so they can completely disregard any form of recoil and turn 360 degrees in 0.3 seconds because game devs are braindead retards.
Anonymous No.719061470 >>719061621
>>719057507 (OP)
I prefer to type on my keyboard desu.
Anonymous No.719061573
>>719057507 (OP)
If gamers weren't mongoloids that refuse to give up their muscle memory and accept innovation, trackpads + gyro would've ended this debate with a total controller win.
Anonymous No.719061621 >>719062157
>>719061470
If you don't use the wonky ass PS3/PSP keyboard, you're a fake gamer.
Anonymous No.719061625
>>719057507 (OP)
Controller. You literally don't have enough hands for all the buttons on a keyboard. Yet it's the N64 controller that gets the three hands meme.
Anonymous No.719061812 >>719061858 >>719062058
>>719057734
>platforming
made for mouse and keyboard
assmon made this segment blindly on his first attempt while it took you 20 on a controller.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWHcP8MaWqE&list=PLPe5oHlbIf0w0jxcHjlhJm7gZJF0AY_eB&index=11
Anonymous No.719061858
correct timestamp >>719061812
https://youtu.be/mWHcP8MaWqE?&t=145
Anonymous No.719061924
people think controller is better for games when they dont realize the reason they think that is because they've only been exposed to casual games with barebones mechanics. anything with mechanics requires mkb, period.
Anonymous No.719062016
disgaea got infinitely better when I finally got D2 on PC
fuck menuing with your thumbs
Anonymous No.719062030
Controllers always.
Any genre that can't be played with a controller does not exist to me.
Anonymous No.719062058
>>719061812
The platforming in E33 is a joke... the character grabs any ledge to the point where you probably don't even have to jump on that part. I one shot the Only Up minigame and the other platforming minigame on a controller it wasn't very hard
Anonymous No.719062157 >>719062320
>>719061621
>forgot about this beauty of a gamecube controller
ngmi
Anonymous No.719062195
>>719061443
Shit even most mmos handle great on controller.
Anonymous No.719062258
>>719057507 (OP)
Depends on the game
Anonymous No.719062279 >>719063721
>>719057507 (OP)
>souls games are better with a controller
>played through it all with a keyboard without a problem

>same with Isaac
>got my first dead god with a keyboard in 400h

>list goes on with Cuphead, Meat Boy, Furi and even MK1 with an edited layout.
I learned to ignore when devs recommend controllers. It's just the matter of preference. What a crazy discovery.
>racing games
Pure racing games look too boring to me but I did fine in GTAO races and some NFS games.
Anonymous No.719062314 >>719068426 >>719068496
>>719057686
Sometimes you'll end up with a keyboard that has dogshit drivers and can't handle rapidly switching inputs or pressing more than 4 buttons.
Anonymous No.719062320
>>719062157
Jesus
Anonymous No.719062410
>>719057507 (OP)
How fucking forced of a debate. If you have the option to use a keyboard then you already have the option to use whatever input method you prefer because PC gaming is cool. Idorts always win
Anonymous No.719063148 >>719063304
I love how retards will argue about something so subjective as this
Anonymous No.719063304
>>719063148
It's because retards, as you have mentioned, refuse to surrender the fact that for ANY game in which you point and shoot, using a controller over KB+M fucking sucks and is subhuman abbo baboonlard behavior. Get a grip. You know I'm right, it's self-evident for all the obvious reasons, if you argue against this you are not a serious person
Anonymous No.719063340
>>719057507 (OP)
Why is that keyboard trans?
Anonymous No.719063382
I used to prefer keyboard and mouse but these days I find it nice to be a lazy nigger with a controller. I just beat the ffxiv free trial with a controller and while my mmo mouse is objectively better the controller gameplay was peak comfort
Anonymous No.719063397
>>719057507 (OP)
Controller always win

Keyboard is for fat tranny subhumans that need LGBT light flashing from their gay office equipment while playing the early access version of Cuckold Simulator 2026
Anonymous No.719063430
>>719057507 (OP)
both for different games
Anonymous No.719063514 >>719068501 >>719076856
>>719057686
Fighting games.
I can't do 360s on keyboards, while it's very easy to just rotate the analog.
Anonymous No.719063535 >>719064030
>Plug in PS4 for the first time in a year
>Not really sure what to play so boot up the ratchet and clank remake
>Wait for the long ass load times
>Get in game
>Try to aim at enemy guy
>Nothing happens
>Realize that console games don't fucking have Gyro Aim
Controller is most comfy, but the one in OP is the fucking worst and why we can't have nice things.
Anonymous No.719063721
>>719062279
You cannot get good laptimes on something like F-Zero X with a keyboard. It's just impossible outside of TASing. Easier racing games that already account for shitty controllers that have huge awful deadzones don't care if you're using a keyboard. That's literally the only usecase for a GOOD analog-capable controller or high end flightstick, games that actually utilize the sensitive and granular capabilities of analog input.

Surprising nobody's mentioned a Wiimote or PSplay. Or a DDR pad. Or a GH Guitar. Or a guncon. Or a lovense.
Anonymous No.719063998 >>719064067 >>719064101 >>719064157 >>719064876
Controller

Racing
Flight Sim/Combat (although unsurprisingly a joystick trumps both)
Platforming
Sports Games
Most Turn Based RPG's
Most 2D side scroller games
Fighting Games
Melee centric RPG/Action games

K + M
Almost everything else

However I will say PC only third worlders that never use controllers and then complain about how hard they are to use need to gitgud
Anonymous No.719064028
>>719061104
You are shit at Nioh if you can't play with m&kb
Anonymous No.719064030 >>719064163 >>719064541
>>719063535
Oh and before you
>You le can't aime with gontrollers hyro ids a meme
I regularly top score in tf2 and cs2 with a ps4 controller, in my underwear on my couch.
Yeah I could probably stomp HARDER with a keyboard and mouse, but a controller is more than adequate.
Anonymous No.719064067
>>719063998
>controller
>every good game ever made

>lgbt light up office equipment
>uh..um....chink assfaggots and zogbot simulators
kek pctroons just can't stop fucking losing
Anonymous No.719064101 >>719064556 >>719068501
>>719063998
The weird thing about these "hypothetical pc only keyboard mouse only" fags, is one of the biggest perks of PC gaming is unchaining controllers from the shit ass design "standards" of consoles to what capacity you can.
Anonymous No.719064157
>>719063998
>Platforming
>Most 2D side scroller games
I did pantheon with all bindings and I know I physically couldn't do it with a controller.
Anonymous No.719064163
>>719064030
Gyro is entirely competitive viable and those that say it isn't are just filtered by their inability to adapt. The biggest issue with it is turn rate but that can be adjusted with macros and experience.
Anonymous No.719064298
>>719057686
Yes they are superior for every single game but controller are much more comfortable
I used to play every game on kbm even use it on emulator but after playing controller for a year i can say that kbm gives you more precision and control but also hurt wrists
Anonymous No.719064541 >>719064643 >>719064746
>>719064030
>Plugin ps4 controller for the first time in a year
>Regularly top score in tf2 and cs2
Anonymous No.719064556 >>719064746
>>719064101
>not adding Valve's rumored Steam Controller 2 with dual trackpads
Anonymous No.719064643
>>719064541
bad bait
Anonymous No.719064693 >>719066628
Depends on the game.
Hell, for some games I use both. (GTA V).
Anonymous No.719064746 >>719064841
>>719064541
Plug in PS4 for the first time in a year speed reader.
>>719064556
Aside from the fact the ergos on what I've seen of it look a bit shit, it's a good controller.
The point of the image I posted was that Sony Microsoft and Nintendo make fucking retarded decisions when making the sole peripheral you get when using their systems.
Anonymous No.719064841 >>719064975
>>719064746
I think the problem is we hit the perfect controller and we've ran out of ideas of what else to put in them now. Nintendo added mouse controls, Valve added trackpads, Sony added a touchpad, while Microsoft stagnated off the 360 like they did with their franchises.
Anonymous No.719064876
>>719063998
Yeah I guess.
Except platformers and turn-based RPG for me, the first is actually better with kb, the second literally doesn't matter so why even bother plugging the controller in
Anonymous No.719064901
>>719057632
The best for shooters would be mouse + joystick.
Anonymous No.719064916 >>719065026 >>719065051 >>719066147 >>719067080 >>719076558
I wonder why it was never mixed.

I want a controller analog stick for walking in my left hand. And a mouse in my right hand for aiming or camera control.
Anonymous No.719064975 >>719065057 >>719065096
>>719064841
Hitting the perfect controller isn't the problem.
The problem is that it's been 20 fucking years and gyro still isn't baked into every standard controller and natively supported in games.
Having standards doesn't mean you can't do fun gimmick stuff.
Anonymous No.719065026
>>719064916
Some people do that although it's annoying to use if you aren't a bumper jumper.
Anonymous No.719065051
>>719064916
Making a half-controller for a small subset of players is probably not a good business decision.
Anonymous No.719065057
>>719064975
It's Microsoft, those retards won't add it to their controllers, I hope they finally add that shit next gen so gyro along with haptics can finally become a standard, damn.
Anonymous No.719065096
>>719064975
Steam does a pretty good job of integrating it into games.
Anonymous No.719065180 >>719065341
If you play any shooter with a controller you are a nigger.
Anonymous No.719065341 >>719065959
>>719065180
I am sorry, but I'm not gonna use my mouse and keyboard on my couch while fragging you, and I'm rather pale since I don't go out much.
Anonymous No.719065462
controllerfags are literal fags because they have the urge to play with little weiners (their joysticks) and they cant stop thinking about weiners in general because they are so fags
Anonymous No.719065959
>>719065341
>while fragging you
I don't play trash with crossplay let alone aim assist.
Anonymous No.719066018
>>719057507 (OP)
Wrong kind of controller but controller (dualshock) wins.
Anonymous No.719066095 >>719069469
My autistic brain assumes using keyboard = I'm working, so I can't enjoy any game that isn't a competitive fps. I use a controller for anything else.
Anonymous No.719066147 >>719066410 >>719067869 >>719068501
>>719064916
>I wonder why it was never mixed.
Anonymous No.719066410
>>719066147
Yeah imagine the joycon on your left hand and a mouse on the right.
Anonymous No.719066527
>>719059009
>thinks one game will prove his point
Anonymous No.719066628
>>719064693
same when I played. KBM on foot and controller for vehicle
Anonymous No.719067080
>>719064916
There's the Razer Tartarus though I'm not sure if games let you use the joystick on it as an actual analog joystick or what, I've never had one.
Anonymous No.719067180
>>719057686
Use a controller for two months and you'll change your perspective once you get used to actually using one. There are obviously plenty of cases where KBM can't be surpassed, but controllers definitely have their own niches.
Anonymous No.719067325
>>719057686
/thread
Anonymous No.719067869 >>719067958
>>719066147
I am still fucking mad after two generations Nintendo decided to turn literally ALL of that shit into e-waste but brought the fucking gamecube controller forward.
They're fucking wireless and standard fucking bluetooth.
There's no damn reason why you can't load them up to play switch games.
Anonymous No.719067958
>>719067869
They may eventually use the Joycons like the Wiimote and Nunchucks.
Anonymous No.719068075
>>719057734
KBM in a Hat in Time is actually really legit. It makes aiming your jumps and fast platforming a breeze. It's all about how well the controls are designed.
And for old 2D games with no analog input just playing with the kb is just as good as a controller. Most older Japanese indie games were explicitly designed for keyboard play anyway.
Anonymous No.719068091
>kbm
real input
>controller
cope input
shrimple as
Anonymous No.719068376
>>719061104
>Can't run and move the camera at the same time without switching to the trog grip
Anonymous No.719068401
>>719057507 (OP)
Depends on the game, kbm gives much more precision and quick reactions when the camera is part of movement. But when you're controlling a character or object and the camera is fixed then a controller many times works better.
Anonymous No.719068426
>>719062314
>keyboard
>drivers
do what now
Anonymous No.719068429
>>719057507 (OP)
Depends on the game.
If you dont need precise aiming and camera control then controller wins.
Anonymous No.719068496
>>719062314
You can say the same for controllers in fact it's worse for controllers. Keyboard drivers are 99% generic.
Anonymous No.719068501 >>719068814 >>719070442
>>719057507 (OP)
>Retro 5.5th gen controller
The deliberately retro xbox controller is shit and was never good.
It has no motion controls that would be necessary to get the kind of shoulder/elbow/wrist movement that you need to get the kind of accuracy you need for 3D games without massive software assistance and simplification.
It still has a Dpad instead of a better menuing system despite almost explicitly not being for 2D games.
It still has its face buttons all the same size despite this being suboptimal for game design.
It still has no back buttons by default despite the poor game design of dual analog controls and its aforementioned "retro" lack of motion controls.
It still has no dual stage triggers, despite its propensity for being an FPS controller.
It still isn't a split controller despite this being better for ergonomics and motion controls (which it doesn't have).
The 360 isn't retro because of its age, it was already retro on launch.

Keyboard and mouse is generally better, the only reason it has fallen behind is sheer ineptitude in actually designing control schemes.
Controllers are better for tank controls, but no game uses those anymore.
>>719057734
It's good for platformers as long as the controls let the mouse play a direct role in controlling your heading.
>>719063514
>Fighting games with modern retro controllers
>When fightsticks are generally preferred
>>719058215
Mouse gives much finer, yet still snappier analog control than dual analog. If you want to adjust walk speed you have the mousewheel.
>>719064101
Controllers like the Gamecube and Wii controllers were heavily let down by the default bindings being shit and the DS4 only remembered that it had motion controls on PC.
>>719066147
The Wii was pretty neat, barring the fact that it was basically in its infancy. People getting reactionary about motion controls because of Wii commercials has held back gaming for 20 years and we're still on outdated retro controller shit because of it.
Anonymous No.719068814 >>719069025
>>719068501
>People getting reactionary about motion controls because of Wii commercials has held back gaming for 20 years
It's literally just microsoft not spending the $0.0001 per controller to have Gyro on the 360.
Anonymous No.719069025 >>719070119
>>719068814
Sony still declined to provide motion controls on their console until PC players used the DS4 to emulate Nintendo games.
Microsoft's input API Xinput doesn't support anything other than strict Xbox inputs and the implementation of Xinput into games is often so thoroughly botched that you can't use Mouse and keyboard while also using a controller, so you can't even push it out of its limitations.
Controllers still unironically come out with Xinput switches.
Anonymous No.719069394
>>719061104
weird because i've breezed through them all and never struggled finding the difficulty way too easy because the games are calibrated for console peasants who are stuck with a terrible device for 40 years
Anonymous No.719069469
>>719066095
get a membrane all white kb for work, and the chonkiest supertroon rgb mechanical kb for gayming. trust, the feel alone makes ur brain able to differentiate between jerb and neeting
Anonymous No.719070119 >>719070503
>>719069025
Sony didn't because it was a non-standard feature and third parties wouldn't use it.
Nonstandard games more than used that shit since sixaxis.
Anonymous No.719070442 >>719070579
>>719068501
>if you want to adjust walk speed you have the mousewheel
name one game that isn't tarkov
Anonymous No.719070503
>>719070119
The obvious answer is to just mandate the same kind of control rebinding that should be present in PC games, but this is still routinely ignored and games don't even allow for mouse and keyboard that would need to be included in a PC port anyway, despite everything just being handled by standard USB and bluetooth connections.
The industry would still rather maintain full control over how their products develop, rather than opening them up for rapid experimentation and development.
Anonymous No.719070579
>>719070442
Some Splinter Cell games I think.
Anonymous No.719070596 >>719070713
>>719057727
>pc games shouldn't be designed with kbm in mind
Anonymous No.719070713 >>719070909
>>719070596
why would they be? everybody has a gamepad on PC.
Anonymous No.719070767
VR motion controls.
I fell in love after playing actual VR games and decent enough tech demos. It's a shame everyone is dropping the fucking ball with VR
Anonymous No.719070827
>>719057727
Every 3D game needs to do that though unless you want it to devolve into rubbing your character against objects until the right button prompt pops up.
sage No.719070909 >>719071668
>>719070713
Counterpoint: Practically no one has a good gamepad on PC, but they generally have a serviceable Keyboard and Mouse. They usually have some chinkshit knockoff retro controller like a 360 controller.
Anonymous No.719070912
>>719057507 (OP)
best of both worlds
Anonymous No.719070919
>>719057507 (OP)
/thread
Anonymous No.719071668
>>719070909
Granted it's been gone for years but I have a Steam controller.
Anonymous No.719072618
gamepad for everything i like leaning back in a chair/couch or lying in bed. i refuse to lock in.
Anonymous No.719074321
>>719057686
I use a controller for everything now. It's too comfy. Single player games that were ported from the console are piss easy anyways. KBM is only good for competitive shooters.
Anonymous No.719074871
>>719057507 (OP)
Mouse only
Anonymous No.719074950
>>719058792
bottom one is commute, which is worse than work
Anonymous No.719075675
FPS obviously KB+M. If that's not possible, gyro.
Almost everything else that I play, controller. There's a few exceptions like some twin stick style games where the mouse still feels faster to aim. Like Neon Abyss, I wouldn't play that game with a controller, despite having platforming, because it's much easier to aim and shoot around with the mouse. And it's easier to move around and attack in games like Undermine as well.
I have this controller. This is the Mobapad HuBen 2. This controller has perfect tweakable super accurate capacitive sticks, and it doesn't fucking matter. Aiming with the sticks is horseshit. It will be if they are perfectly accurate and can be set up in 1000 different ways. They're just not good for aiming. I'll play casual third person shooters with it and I still won't find it as good. I'd rather the sticks have the other type of "capacitive" which is the one that the steam deck has (you touch the thumbstick and it activates gyro).
Anonymous No.719075730 >>719075883
The one single unique advantageous quality of controllers is having a left analog stick
The whole point of them was to make it easy for the normalfags which is why they're utterly incapable of precision and have so few buttons to memorise because touch typing is an elites skill apparently
Anonymous No.719075883
>>719075730
You forget the stupidity that is to basically admit that analog sticks are shit at aiming by adding aim assist to nearly every single FPS game out there and to even fuck with cross platform multiplayer games because look at these cripples with their controllers, they need their handicaps, mouse players cannot get away with this.
Anonymous No.719076558
>>719064916
Analog control is a meme, and you'd never have enough inputs placed in an intelligent way.
Anonymous No.719076856
>>719063514
nta but hitbox controllers are essentially just keyboards, and they even have variants with the actual numbads on them.
Anonymous No.719076975 >>719079251
>>719057686
I use a controller for consoleslop. It's good to have options and they're not exactly breaking the bank either.
Playing games built around dualsense is rad.
Anonymous No.719079251
>>719076975
The problem is this retarded thing where they cannot make the speaker on the dualsense work wirelessly on PC, so you're forced to plug it for the 15 games that support the gimmicks
Anonymous No.719079362 >>719079835
Keyboard is shit and the only control method you dont pick up and have to lay down

Keyboard is peak soulless
Anonymous No.719079835 >>719080653
>>719079362
>He oonga boongas his flightsticks, throttles and wheels
Anonymous No.719079981
>>719057507 (OP)
Keyboard only
Anonymous No.719080062
>>719057507 (OP)
i like both simultaneously
the only game i use both in is gta but it feels natural to pick up a controller for driving and mousekb for shooting
Anonymous No.719080130
>>719058792
james is the quintessential normie retard
Anonymous No.719080369 >>719080634
Am I the only one that prefers to play FPS with a controller? I'm not talking competitive shit, I haven't played games like battlefield in years, I mean games like Skyrim. It's so much more comfortable to play with a controller even if you can't aim as well as with a mouse.
Anonymous No.719080634
>>719080369
It depends, if it's a casual single player game it's always going to be more comfortable. There are many games where you don't need that many bindings. Even something more of a shooter like Deus Ex MD I found to be a bit more pleasant with a controller, but then I also find myself enabling aim assist because aiming with an analog stick will never, ever be decent enough.
Anonymous No.719080653
>>719079835
What are you even trying to say
Anonymous No.719080663 >>719080818 >>719085783
>>719057507 (OP)
Why not both?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNtYW3Lk6vI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkjcEcSyJec
Anonymous No.719080818 >>719080994
>>719080663
Because a mouse is just better.
Anonymous No.719080984
Just thinking about the idea of playing japanese games with mouse and keyboard sounds retarded
Anonymous No.719080994 >>719081191
>>719080818
Is it really?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmM5yPUSUvw
flick stick gives you perfect and accurate flicks
Anonymous No.719081191 >>719081237 >>719081376
>>719080994
Yes, really. I don't have to constantly hold something up in the air with both arms and I don't have to contort my hand in some ridiculous way to get access to every possible input.
Anonymous No.719081237 >>719081516
>>719081191
>I don't have to constantly hold something up in the air with both arms
Oh so youre weak but then again you should expect that from PC nerds
Anonymous No.719081376 >>719081516
>>719081191
Holy shit dude.
You don't have to do the autism clawing, there's more readily available buttons on a controller than on your left hand on a keyboard without having to contort your hand in some ridiculous way to hit num keys while moving your character with WASD.
You don't have to hold your controller in the air at all, the guy is resting everything on the table while playing, I rest my hands on my lap. If kbm was more comfortable I would just use that but it just isn't.
Anonymous No.719081516 >>719081735
>>719081237
It's a controller, they're not heavy. But why do that when I can just relax my arms on my desk?
>>719081376
>You don't have to do the autism clawing
You do if you want access to more than 6 actions at once, which a lot of PC games will expect from you. Even most console games spread their controls out to even the d-pad these days.
>there's more readily available buttons on a controller than on your left hand on a keyboard without having to contort your hand in some ridiculous way to hit num keys while moving your character with WASD.
How short are your fingers that your index and ring fingers can't hit everything without moving?
>You don't have to hold your controller in the air at all
You can't keep it on a flat surface without sacrificing your vertical range.
Anonymous No.719081542 >>719084315
>>719058792
picrel supports trannies.
Anonymous No.719081735
>>719081516
>i-its not heavy ok!?!?! I-I just wanna relax and u can't relax with a 1 pound controller because uhhhhhhhh AAAAAAA IT HURTS MY WRIST
Anonymous No.719082312
controllers are literally a pleb input device meant for normalfags to get into games hence why many games play themselves when you use one
the best input method is by far a left hand dactyl+ mouse
Anonymous No.719082410
Does having six fingers count as cheating?
Anonymous No.719082626
>>719057507 (OP)
Depends on the game
Anonymous No.719084315
>>719081542
Wow, thank you for the brave and insightful political analysis, anon. I'm sure everyone was dying to know your opinion on the lore behind a jpeg. Go touch grass.
Anonymous No.719084702 >>719086189
Keep playing on your controller while I farm you on medieval slashers.
Anonymous No.719084805
>Minecraft, Terraria, Age of Empires
Keyboard
>Pretty much everything else
Controller
Anonymous No.719085783 >>719085938
>>719080663
My argument is it takes too much time to learn when I can just use my mouse
Anonymous No.719085938
>>719085783
Also my second argument is that I don't need to set it up the way that flick stick gyro needs to be set up. All that matters (in most cases the defaults are fine) is changing mouse sensitivity and acceleration. With flick stick gyro I have to do some retarded autistic shit on steam controller settings on a game per game basis.
Anonymous No.719086189
>>719084702
The people who play those games regularly have severe autism so the choice or peripheral hardly matters.
Anonymous No.719086319 >>719086915
>>719057507 (OP)
Situational.
Controller is better for shit like JRPGs and metroidvanias, M+KB is basically mandatory for anything first-person or RTS.
Anonymous No.719086915
>>719086319
>for anything first-person
Playing Beth games on controller is infinitely comfier than on kb+m. RTS is correct however.
Anonymous No.719088235
>>719057686
You're an idiot but a good rage baiter.