Thread 719061146

Making interesting teams is the only fun part of these games so this is automatically the worst Pokemon game because it has dogshit Pokemon variety

>>719061146 (OP)
If you say so. This game got me back into Pokemon again after skipping Gen 4 and most of Gen 4.

>>719061146 (OP)
Gen 4 is the worst because the games are too fucking slow.

>>719062118
Everyone plays these on emulator with fast forward, unc

>>719062441
>fast forward
There are patches to unlock the framerate so everything moves faster without messing up the audio.

>>719061146 (OP)
Theres a lot of cool pokemon you can make a team with if you don't care about metafaggotry and the game is fun

>>719061146 (OP)
Pokemon is a shit series in general. Dumbed down Megami Tensei clone for little kids.

>>719061146 (OP)
this game was such a massive downgrade from emerald

>>719061146 (OP)
I think it had a much more fun Battle Frontier than Emerald, and at least they actually added more fire types pre E4

>>719061146 (OP)
I disagree. With tools like the Vs Seeker, grindable Lucky Eggs, midgame move tutors, and the Underground for shards and evolution stones, Platinum can be a pretty fun teambuilding experience with lots of customization. People only look at the numbers and think it's hard to make a team of 6 when there's over 100 options.

>>719061146 (OP)
I played Renegade Platinum and it was fun until I got filtered by a double battle trainer with a Gyarados

>>719062441
>unc
>fast forwarding makes the game sound like garbled noise
>playing with no sound while listening to slopcasts
Wigger coded behavior, at best. Straight up nig or jeet at worst. Gotta kys

>>719061146 (OP)
I think only weakness of Platinum are the fucking save times Jesus Christ why?

>>719061146 (OP)
>ralts line
>any Eevee you want
>kino starters
>togekiss, gliscor, electivire, toxicroak
>best regional bird
>pseudo after the second gym WITH the earthquake TM
>only game you can use Houndoom in
Might be a (You) issue, platinum has the best regional dex before bw2. Try playing HGSS without a team of shitmons or half coming from Kanto

>>719061146 (OP)
i played this game until i realized shinx or whatever doesn't even learn thunderwave
whats the point of raising this cocksucker from the start if xe cant help me catch legendaries?
even in modern games they have shit like nuzzle. kusoge

>>719062670
This, OP is a dumb

>>719064575
There are AR codes that speed up battles the game without fucking up the music

>>719064337
I tried it but I just can't get behind how much you have to grind and teambuild. Too sweaty for me

Not sure how anyone can defend Sinnohs regional dex even in Platinum. There's a reason Sinnoh is the only region to get that "gonna use a different team this time" meme that only serves as proof the game has such shit selection everyone is basically forced into using the same shit every run

>>719064858
>>719064575
>>719062441
>>719062118
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMsGowDCVVE
I just watched a video about speediing up Gen IV Pokemon games using ACE. It works in every game, but there's no entry point for HGSS yet.
I'm gonna use it when I finally get around to grinding the Battle Frontier in Platinum

>>719065143
>that "gonna use a different team this time" meme
that only applies to DP. Even BDSP have a better selection than most of the early games through the Grand Underground

>>719065143
>Sinnohs regional dex even in Platinum
Cause it’s good, every TM is available, the move tutor is early, and there’s lots of viable Pokemon. Retard.

Oh sorry you mean you didn't enjoy the ol' spicy Machop, Geodude, Zubat littering even the route encounter tables? You wanted actual variety?
lol
lmao
Welcome to Shittoh

>>719065278
The grand underground was such a retarded way to try and implement Platinums Pokedex without actually giving us Platinums Pokedex.

>>719065320
>and there’s lots of viable Pokemon
Every Pokemon is viable in every game I don't understand this point. The selection is garbage, especially if you want to use new mons. Gen IVs new mons are also pretty lame

>>719065446
yeah its weird but they’re still in the game. you can catch good mons right after gardenia

>>719065446
>Every Pokemon is viable in every game I don't understand this point
Are you gonna have a better time using Carnivine or Tangrowth, Leafeon, or Roserade, retardbro? If the selection is bad, then so is every other game until BW2 where you can start monotype running the game with any type of your choise. All the starters, Gallade, Gardevoir, Staraptor, Togekiss, Magnezone, Gliscor, Houndoom, Magmortar, Bronzong, any Eevee. It's not hard at all to not use the same 6 mons

>>719061146 (OP)
I don't care. I only used my overleveled Luxray

>>719065645
>It's not hard at all to not use the same 6 mons
Tell that to Sinnohfags they're the ones who don't seem to understand that. Garchomp, Lucario, Luxray, Staraptor, and Floatzel might as well be the only mons in that game.

>>719065685
No, I'm gonna tell that to the retard tripfag who pretends he has to use those Pokemon, lol.

>>719065143
My team in Platinum was Torterra, Milotic, Chatot, Mr. Mime, Drapion, and Spiritomb. If you use cookie-cutter teams you've only got yourself to blame.

>>719065143
>There's a reason Sinnoh is the only region to get that "gonna use a different team this time" meme
*raughs*

>>719065854
dropped image

>double trades
Always worth it for my favorite pokemon in a Platinum nuzlocke

>>719065838
>>719065720
When I played BDSP I used Torterra, Bibarel, Ursaring, Bastiodon, Gardevoir, and Drapion and it was still boring to play.

In my recent Platinum run I had to constantly have 2 HM slaves which made me only run 4 mons. The regional dex just sucks, especially when there's so many trade evos.

>>719065942
Sounds more like you're just boring than the game being boring.

>>719065143
>everyone is basically forced into using the same shit every run
Sinnoh's early route pokemon are strong and popular options, that's it. You're bad at the game if you think that's what you are forced to use.
Other regions are the same. Ampharos is very commonly used in Johto games. Nidoking in Kanto. Swellow and Manetric in Hoenn.

>>719065942
>In my recent Platinum run [I played like a dumb fuck and used 2 HM slaves, as if the games directly before and after Platinum don't' also have 8 HMs]
That's nice, retardbro.

>>719062556
you're mistaken it's a retarded ADHD zoom zoom

>>719065942
>In my recent Platinum run I had to constantly have 2 HM slaves which made me only run 4 mons
What do you guys think the PC is for?

there are no interesting teams without legendaries.

>>719066028
If I wanted to use Machop, Zubat Geodude, or Ponyta I'd play a Kanto game

Sorry I don't want to slather a fucking honey tree for the chance of using a Mothim

>>719066063
Emerald and HGSS HMs are less obnoxious than Sinnohs

>>719066056
All those are likely to have way less frequent usage than the common Sinnoh team

>>719066159
No they're not, you can definitely rid of stuff like fog after you use it once and Waterfall is too situational in any game to be lugging it around. You're a retard that plays like a retard

>>719066159
>All those are likely to have way less frequent usage than the common Sinnoh team
nope >>719065892

has the spicmirtranon ever said anything intelligent about pokemon

>>719066219
Sorry that Sinnoh is so garbage it's the only game in the series where it's easier to use an HM slave than teaching it to mons

>>719066254
>>>/vg/feg

>>719066294
>it's the only game in the series where it's easier to use an HM slave than teaching it to mons
That's every single game in the series, retardbro.

>>719066159
>Emerald and HGSS HMs are less obnoxious than Sinnohs
They unironically are. Dive and Whirlpool are another Water HM you have to take and their distributions are fucked.
>All those are likely to have way less frequent usage than the common Sinnoh team
So? Some pokemon are more common picks than others. That's all, it's not a flaw. The Sinnoh team isn't even that amazing. Luxray is very mediocre with its only utility being Intimidate, Floatzel is on the weaker side too, there are much stronger options available later on but for some reason you want to say that's all there is.

>>719066324
1. HMs stopped being a thing in gen 7
2. In Unova you damn sure don't need an HM slave

>>719066402
The Hoenn/Johto HMs feel rewarding to use at the very least. The Sinnoh ones are just there to be obnoxious

>>719066452
No shit you fucking idiot, if you could spread around garbage like Cut, Rock Smash, and Strength in other games, you could have done the same. You are retard.

>>719066452
>The Hoenn/Johto HMs feel rewarding to use at the very least.
lol just say you’re a dumb biased moron, using is all the same

>>719066482
The list of mons that can learn defog is tiny, I'd basically be using a pseudo-HM slave of a Pokemon I don't even want

>>719066541
After replaying Johto I felt it was overrated as shit but it was still better than Sinnoh. Kanto was worse as a game but had better HMs.

Sinnoh is worse as a game and worse in HMs. It's just a highly overrated gen/region.

>>719066584
>The list of mons that can learn defog is tiny
Cool, then dump it like you do with Flash or Whirlpool, dipshit. The move deleter is right after Route 210 Your Empoleon can learn it, and I see from your Hoenn team you had no problem slapping 3 Water HMs, so you're just talking through your ass.

>>719066652
>slapping 3 Water HMs
on Swampert

>>719066652
The fact Sinnoh is a region where you're much more incentivized to delete the HMs just proves how worthless and annoying they are.

>>719066779
I'm incentivized to delete HMs in every region, retardbro. I delete Cut in Hoenn after getting the few optional stuff. I delete Whirpool in Johto.

>>719066823
I never felt the need to do that and never felt like they were wasted move slots. I do feel that way in Sinnoh.

ergo, Sinnoh is shit

Zoroark

>>719066854
Cool, I don't care bout your ancedotes, retardbro. You didn't use Dive or Waterfall for shit when you had Surf earlier in the game, lol. Same with Whirpool

ergo you're a retarded hypocrite

>>719067002
If I run out of surf PP I can switch to using dive or waterfall or whirlpool. And using it in the overworld to explore feels rewarding

I would never want to use defog in battle and using it in the overworld is just gen IVs version of flash(which also fucking exists in Sinnoh)

Sorry that you can't realize Sinnoh is shit, "retardbro". Hell that's what the fucking OP was about

>>719067094
>If I run out of surf PP I can switch to using dive or waterfall or whirlpool
No you wouldn't, faggot. Running 3 Water movess retarded as fuck, especially one that's essentially a slow version of Fly that takes two turns to use.
>And using it in the overworld to explore feels rewarding
Cool, I can use this dumb fuck argument for any HM, retardbro.
>I would never want to use defog
Me with Cut, Rock Smash, Dive, Defog, and specially Whirpool,

Sorry you can't realize how fucking autistic you sound pretending shit field move is good in one game but bad in another, retardbro.

>>719066854
>>719067094
>mindbreaks the smelly brownoid
damn best gen do be like that
https://automaton-media.com/en/news/new-top-100-ranking-of-japanese-peoples-favorite-games-dominated-by-domestic-classics-like-mario-and-pokemon-except-for-the-number-one-spot/

>>719067236
Based

>>719067094
I told you before you don't need Defog.
>but I can't see!
It's not that bad you big baby.

>>719067203
Dive giving you immunity can be helpful.

>Cool, I can use this dumb fuck argument for any HM, retardbro.
Not for fucking defog you can't. It's just a shitty inconvenience

>Me with Cut, Rock Smash, Dive, Defog, and specially Whirpool,
So you admit defog is terrible? Glad we cleared that up

Sorry you're so retarded as to act like Sinnoh isn't shit

>>719067236
Go to /feg/ and talk about how Gullveig is a Sinnoh stan or whatever gay shit you're gonna come up with. Also Japan has notorious shit taste. Look at the other fucking names mentioned on that list. Scarlet Violet sold more than Gen IV, guess that makes it even better.

>>719067385
>Look at the other fucking names mentioned on that list. Scarlet Violet sold more than Gen IV, guess that makes it even better.
all i see are other good games with gen iv being best gen. cope brownoid triptranny

>>719067385
>Not for fucking defog you can't. It's just a shitty inconvenience
Yes, I absolutely can, retardbro. Clearing the fog in the ghost tower made it feel as rewarding to explore as clearing the shitty whirpool in the water :). Oh wait, Defog is less of an inconvenience since you don't even need it to clear the route, lol.
>So you admit defog is terrible? Glad we cleared that up
Yep, just as much as cutting trees, or clearing the whirlpool, thanks for agreeing, retardbro. Except I don't even need Defog, lol

Sorry you're autistic and play Pokemon games like a retard, retardbro

>>719067537
It doesn't even say gen IV, it says Diamond/Pearl. Are you really gonna be so retarded in an attempt to win an argument you're gonna fucking defend original DIAMOND AND PEARL of all fucking things? Some of the worst games in the series(thank you BDSP for setting the record straight on that)?

Come on I know you're retarded but please.

>>719067601
You don't *need* it, but they make it so annoying you're gonna feel compelled to use it. And if it's not even needed why did they even make it an HM? Use this permanent move to clear some fog on this route and then be forced to use the move deleter later? Sounds like bad game design to me

I played every other game just fine, maybe it's just Sinnoh that's dog shit, "retardbro"

When I was a kid I traded over eggs of my favorite pokemon at the start of Platinum so I could use those instead of Sinnoh pokemon

Another retarded tripfag to add to the filter

>>719067687
>it doesn’t say gen iv it just says gen iv
coping brown triptranny lmao

>>719067796
Ok, go play Diamond and Pearl right now and not Platinum and tell me how much fun you have with it

>>719067687
>You don't *need* it, but they make it so annoying you're gonna feel compelled to use it. Ok, so? You can still easily beat it without it, lol. Don't tell me you're fucking blind or can't get over missing 2 moves in the game. I
>Use this permanent move to clear some fog on this route and then be forced to use the move deleter later? Sounds like bad game design to me
Thank you for explaining every HM that ever exists, except every other one is required to be used.

You obviously didn't play every other game fine if you felt the need to lug around garbage like Cut and Whirpool but got fucking hard filtered by the optional Defog, LOL

>>719067859
>Thank you for explaining every HM that ever exists, except every other one is required to be used.
And lots of them can be good moves unlike Defog

>You obviously didn't play every other game fine if you felt the need to lug around garbage like Cut and Whirpool but got fucking hard filtered by the optional Defog, LOL

>>719067824
already do brownoid tranny best pokemon games cope about it

>>719067896
>And lots of them can be good moves unlike Defog
And most of them aren't

>>You obviously didn't play every other game fine if you felt the need to lug around garbage like Cut and Whirpool but got fucking hard filtered by the optional Defog, LOL
Thank you for agreeing. You def didn't kill shit with Dive or or wait 6 turns for Whirpool to do its thing but hauled them around, lol

>>719067896
Fuck, didn't meant to post so fast

>You obviously didn't play every other game fine if you felt the need to lug around garbage like Cut and Whirpool but got fucking hard filtered by the optional Defog, LOL
Are you gonna tell me what I have and haven't played? I've played DP, Pt, and BDSP, and all of them suck. Simple as. Horrible HMs, horrible regional dex, horrible region design, etc.

Not my fault you can't accept the HMs are the worst in Sinnoh. That's why they reeled it back big time in Unova.

>>719067904
Now you're not even trying to pretend like you're not a shitposter

>>719067948
>Are you gonna tell me what I have and haven't played?
Yeap, there's no reason to haul around shit HMs in one game, but pretend you couldn't do the same in another game, retardbro. Same amount of HMs as the games directly before and after it, good regional dex, nice labrynthic region design

Not my fault you got fucking filtered by Defog, retardbro

>>719067948
https://sirusgaming.com/tv-asahi-releases-top-100-video-games-list-voted-by-japanese-users/

>TV Asashi recently announced the results of their Video Game General Election, wherein 50,000 Japanese citizens voted for their favorite game. Courtesy of gamestalk.net, the list of games included popular titles ranging as far back the NES era.

>best pokemon is gen iv
oh no no no brownoid triptroons lost

>>719067940
And Defog is the absolute worst

>You def didn't kill shit with Dive or or wait 6 turns for Whirpool to do its thing but hauled them around, lol
How do you know?

>Same amount of HMs as the games directly before and after it
And yet they're 10 times worse

>good regional dex
LMAO

>nice labrynthic region design
The Sinnoh region sucks donkey dick in terms of exploration. It's boring and ugly as fuck.

>>719068139
>Platinum in 99th place
>HGSS at 64


Seems they don't like gen IV as much as you think they do. DP suck ass.

>>719068235
>gen iv is so good its the only gen with all games even the third one listed
kek u mad brownie bitch

I stopped getting excited about Pokémon games a while ago but since nothing else fills that void I just play rom hacks. I'm currently playing through this one and I'm having fun.

>>719068292
You're a terrible rage baiter

>>719065892
Being real fucking generous including dual-slot mode exclusives and trade evolutions

Imagine being a mutt in her mid 30's being this upset about people liking games you don't like.

>>719062727
Totally not a shitty and braindead cherrypicked image at all.

>>719068415
That’s HGSS, dummy

>>719068141
>How do you know?
Because I know you didn't, retabrdo.
Here I'll do what you're doing- I used Defog to so my Fire Blast to always hit, way faster than waiting for shit like Whirpool to kill my enemy in 5 turns :)
>worse
Nope, I spread my 8 HMs around like I do in the other games.
>LMAO
Definitely is, easily farmable TMs, early Move tutor, lots of viable Pokemon.
>The Sinnoh region
is kino

>>719065892
i remember wanting to use Ttar in soul silver and i couldn’t

>>719068370
>you’re terrible
>triptroon is still raging anyway
Geg

>>719061146 (OP)
>>719061146 (OP)
Dude I did my first Emerald playthrough the the variety is absolute meh until the game game. What gives?

>>719065892
>Togekiss included in the 2/3 times used tier
>even though the only shiny stone in the game is after you get all 16 badges
Incorrect list

>>719068485
So your precious defog is just an x accuracy

And Sinnoh HMs are so terrible they're not worth spreading around

>lots of viable Pokemon
Same as every other game.

>is kino
And other lies you can tell yourself

>>719068583
emerald has like a dozen good pokemon frontloaded, tons of shitmons like johto, not enough ice types so the elite 4 bitch had to double on 2 evo lines, and the latter half game is all dual water-types. the dex is trash

>>719068645
>So your precious defog is just an x accuracy
Yep, better a free x item than waiting 5 turns to kill something
>And [insert region] HMs are so terrible they're not worth spreading around
I agree, no way I would put 3 Water HMs on my Swampert or carrry Whirlpool around after its single required use, just like Defog :)
>And other lies you can tell yourself
um....uh.....whirlpool filtered me into running 2 hm slaves because i didn't know who to put it on with my team

Check out this dumb blue retard I just caught an hour ago

What kind of dumbshit retard is playing pokemon without QoL/full dex/randomiser hacks in [current year]

>>719068754
Extra turns of damage from whirlpool could be the difference between a kill and leaving the enemy with a sliver. I can't expect a retard who uses fire blast and likely only uses the "big number good" moves like Hydro Pump/Thunder to understand

Again sorry you can't think

>>719068906
Yeah, and extra accuracy from defog could be the difference between a miss and leaving the enemy with full health. I can't expect a retard that wastes time with Whirlpool instead of just clicking Surf twice to KO the enemy to understand

Again sorry you don't realize how fucking dumb you sound posting that and expecting anyone to believe you ever clicked Whirlpool in battle a single time lmfao

>>719068851
I've had the game for years but I actually just got the sp earlier today yesterday

>>719069098
As if anyone is expected to believe you've ever clicked defog? Or to believe Sinnoh is well designed?

Think I'll try something different this time
>Starter
>Staraptor
>Luxray
>Floatzel
>Garchomp
>Lucario
Yep yep.

>>719061146 (OP)
R8

>>719069193
Sure, it's about as believable as wasting time with shit moves like Whirlpool. Must be well designed if you got filtered so hard by Defog.

>>719069318
based but no glaceon-1

>>719069318
How are you supposed to fuck Vespiquen and Froslass

>>719069373
You apparently got filtered by whirlpool

>>719069409
True, I'm incredibly shit at Pokemon and Whirlpool made me use 2 HM slaves

>>719069318
flakey

>>719069498
Damn, you finally admitted you're shit at Pokemon. Wouldn't be surprised from a Sinnoh defender but still

>>719069560
I was just following your advice, retardbro. Didn't want a useless move like Whirlpool fucking up my water mons' moves.

>>719069621
I don't tell people to use HM slaves, especially not for Johto. You're too retarded to follow along maybe you should stick to playing Sinnoh instead. Don't want to hurt your brain.

>>719069727
You do, retardbro. Whirlpool is permanent trash, stuck on my team just like you said Need 2 HM slaves for it. I will stick with Sinnoh too thanks, at least I won't be cock blocked by weekly evo stone rewards from a minigame when I want to evolve my Vulpix or RNG rematches.

>>719069981
>doesn't want to earn his mons evolution
>needs to grind in a Pokemon game
Yeah Sinnoh really is the smooth brained mans region isn't it. Good luck with your terminal retardation

>>719070049
>thinks grinding shit flashgames for hours that are worse in quality than ones you'd see on newgrounds in 2005 for rewards free in any literally other pokemon game is good
>so insecure, he automatically thinks the mention near-instant rematches vs an obtuse phonecall system necessarily means grinding
Yeah, you really a one dumb faggot lol. Good luck with your autism, retardbro.

>>719070208
>doesn't even want to play the game
>claims to not grind but so pressed over how the rematch system works
Sinnohfetuses didn't get enough oxygen in the womb to be coming out this stupdi

>>719070363
>grinding shitty flash games is playing the game
>thinks rematches can just be used for exp, when if the player wanted to obtain a TM from the gamecorner, rematches to make money are 10x faster than playing voltorb flip
>didn't get enough oxygen in the womb to be coming out this stupdi
>stupdi
the irony, retardbro.

>>719070478
>playing pokeathlon bad
>but spamming rematches to get coins to buy TMs from the game corner good
Only a Sinnohfag would be this dumb

>>719070706
>grinding shit touchscreen games for hours and waiting a week for the item you want bad
>also doing rematches for 10 minutes instead of playing voltorb flip for an hour to purchase Ice Beam good
Yeah, sounds right to me, retardbro. Hilarious you thought you had a point here

>>719070830
How bad at the game are you that you're needing multiple ice beam TMs?

Well you are a Sinnoh defender

>>719070947
Maybe I want the TM earlier in the game? Maybe I want an extra for a battle facility? Maybe I'm playing with some autism ruleset and want coverage for my team?

kek i know you're fucking terrible at pokemon so playing low effort flash games is funner, but stop coping so hard. this is sad.

>>719071085
What happened to Sinnoh being full of viable pokemon? How bad are you that you need ice beam so early on? How bad at planning are you that you can't just save the free one till the end? Yeah we know you're autistic.


Only a Sinnohfag would be this retarded I swear

>>719071290
>viable pokemon
I'm not sure how have good TM distribution has anything to do with that, but yep, those are still there.
>How bad are you that you need ice beam so early on
Why would I not make use of the games easy money making scheme and put good moves on my Pokemon as soon as possible? Why would I not want Ice Beam on my starter and my Glaceon? Sounds like poor game design to lock the move tutor and good TMs to the postgame.
>Yeah we know you're autistic.
Nah, that's be retardbro asking inane garbage because he's butthurt he had to grind BP for 4 hours so he could purchase Ice Punch from the postgame move tutor in HGSS.

Kek it's hilarious how mindbroken you are, dude. Just spouting nonsense at this point.

>game expects me to wait until the 7th or 8th gym to get a pokemon I want
>pkhex it in the beginning of the game at lvl5
>game is much more enjoyable with the team you actually want to use
Gamefreak niggers need to stop hiding all the good or decent pokemon until end game ffs

Rate my Black 2 team

>>719072696
kino

>>719061146 (OP)
>210 pokemon in the dex
>can count the amount of actual shitmons on one hand
yawnfag go back to /vp/, ive played through platinum with 3 completely different teams. just set up ntevo

>>719072696
>Magmortar
>Walrein
>Gothitelle
zased. i like that b2w2 added the babymons really early

>>719062556
I tried but i couldn't find anything, how are they called?

>>719073028
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it shouldn't speed up the Battle BGM

or try
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>>719073117
Oh, and this is specifically for battles. There are codes that make text instant but I don't have them on hand.

>>719071748
Swsh, XY, and S/V all have good front loaded Pokemon variety it’s mostly an old game thing.

>>719073028
nvm found this https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P7P6tjsuNxY

>>719072848
Staraptor and Togekiss are both S tier

>>719072848
outside of a nuzlocke, if you don't pick up Houndour as a Turtwig or Piplup user you're either retarded or following a hyper specific run

>>719069318
If Lopunny is male 10/10

>>719071748
I can understand the progression for a first playthrough. The problem is they refused to add randomiser options for subsequent playthroughs. Not that it really matters now that none of the new games are worth playing and you can randomise any of the good old games anyway.

>>719061146 (OP)
gen 5 is best

Lots of namefag posts itt
not going to read any of them

>>719061146 (OP)
Romhacks nigger

>>719061146 (OP)
Ranking of the first five gens based on how fun they are to teambuild in
B2W2 > RS > E > RB > FRLG > BW > HGSS > GS > C > Y > Pt > DP

>>719061146 (OP)
Daily reminder that the Switch games spoonfeed you resources and forces you to use training wheels to the point where you'll always be an absurd amount of levels above the content with a full party that's fully restored for every major encounter.
So your tribalism towards which mid gen game doesn't mean anything since the later releases are so much worse.

>>719071748
Goyfreak stopped doing this after Gen 5, where all players were gated on Hydreigon, Braviary and Volcarona at Victory Road.

By Gen 6 all the good shitters can be caught early to midway, there's no point waiting for the 7th-8th badge to complete your team.

This is even more true with Sword/Shield and Scarlet/Violet, you can run with your niggas before you even tackle a badge.

>>719072848
scizor should be higher

i'm actually surprised that they still don't have an item or an option in the pc that simulates trade evos

>>719062727
Notice how ORAS either removed or dumbed down most of these

>>719076703
I was about the same level as the Swsh and SV final bosses

>>719076776
they do in arceus but that slop has garbage combat

>>719068448
you are free to post cool sinnoh dungeon designs to disprove him then.
mt coronet is fucking shit

>>719068851
retro games are time capsules
to immerse yourself properly you need to keep things as close to the original experience as possible

>>719076776
That GTS glitch that evolved them in DPPt saved so much time trying to find someone to do the trade with.

>>719076776
Every single romhack does this. Who gives a shit what gayfreak are doing.

>>719061146 (OP)
Gen 4 is the worse because everything is so slow for no reason.

Doesn't XY have the biggest pool of pre-league Pokemon? It's something like over 300, more than twice that of gen 1 and gen 5.

>>719078625
i think swooshit's is bigger if you got the shovelware dlc

Unfortunately I do think less of you as a person if you use a pre-current gen mon on your team.

>>719076846
That you were fully healed for with an even leveled party full of high BST moves you didn't have to put any effort into, right?

>>719079258
As opposed to the final boss using fucking barrage and ember or Giga impact without STAB so you can get free hits lol

>>719079901
If you want to cherrypick, the new games end up looking exponentially worse. Giga Impact ends up looking a lot better compared to fucking Dragonbreath, Quick Attack and Feint.

>>719072848
Gastrodon is practically unkillable
why she isn't in A at least

>>719080859
>children’s games are…le easy!?

>>719061146 (OP)
Aren't there romhacks to fix this?

>>719081416
>heh look at final boss from old game use dogshit moves, that makes new game better
>actually here's proof that 20 years later they're still doing the same shit
>uhhhh actually it's kid game I'm retarded ESL!
Don't speak if you can't defend your infantile slip, nigger.

>>719080930
*Throws a blade of grass in your direction*

>>719081751
all the games can be used with the universal randomizer. or try a romhack like renegade platinum.

>>719076780
Your eternal asshurt over oras is amusing. But it's way better than RSE.