Thread 719064107

Why do so many people choose to be a generic warrior type class when you have so many different options?

in almost every RPG something like a Fighter or Paladin is always the top choice.

me swing big stick

>>719064107 (OP)
Been thinking about doing a halfling beast tamer run. Didn't finish my warrior playthrough lol

>>719064107 (OP)
If not warrior, almost always Paladin
any big chungus Dadcore class

Because the chinese bots aren't sophisticated to choose other defaults

>>719064319
#1 Baldurs Gate class is Paladin btw

Big sword big damage.

>>719064107 (OP)
Because fighting baddies with big weapons and in big armor is for men

This is also something you know as a tencent shill who is still trying to flood the catalog for a single actual non-botted sale after years

>>719064107 (OP)
Thats a cleric

Your advertising group will need to spampost a lot faster if they want to justify why anyone would waste time picking a class for this gameplay

>>719064107 (OP)
Genuinely don't know. Something in my monkey brain goes "Awesome" when I get to play as myself but slightly different (beard, grey hair).

But I always appreciate non-monkey, and even if a game has 90% monkey and then ten other non-monkey, its a good use of resources imo. Age of Wonders 4, BG3, WoW, ect all have the same monkey problem but its also fine, you don't need perfect distribution.

Who would want to give classes any serious consideration when this is the core gameplay?

>>719064107 (OP)
I'm guessing it's because they're easy mode at the beginning when you're still learning all the stuff. Wizards and whatnot often requires that you know what you're doing unless you want to risk getting a build that sucks because you picked the wrong spells and stuff.

A magic user is usually powerful but in specific scenarios where they're alone they can be really weak.

A melee class with a lot of hp and armor and decent damage is the more solid choice for a main character.

My reasoning, don't know how it developes but I always go fighter type for a first playthrough. Magic is always dicey in unknown games, better try it when I know the game better.

>>719064331
even in sci-fi games, the most popular classes or builds are always some sort of gunner/soldier type

True which even bad sci-fi titles like Starfield understood, which is why it did not need chinese funding or bots to be successful like BG3

>>719064107 (OP)
Fighters are usually just the easiest and most straightforward class. Grab a big sword and swing it at things until they are dead.

Playing a mage usually means you will be shit at melee combat and have to micromanage some kind of resource to deal effective damage. Any other class just feels like a niche role and not really something a main character would be

>>719064107 (OP)
Why are some people brainwashed about hating a majority popular choice?

Is there any popular choice you wouldn't hear constant hectoring about if it was the popular choice?

>>719064436
the gameplay is good you fucking moron. the thing that makes it an irredeemable piece of gutter trash is the hideous females, the demographics, and most importantly the faggotry.

>>719064573
in Starfield the most popular class is soldier.
>>719064620
Why do chuds want to play some generic warrior guy instead of a diverse intellectual class like a wizard or rogue?

>>719064704
because you're a weak nerd that wants to roleplay being a chad. Nothing wrong with that.

>>719064365
That's funny, in my coop game my friend played a paladin and I played a sorcerer. I've always been a sucker for sorcs to be fair.

>>719064365
I'm surprised Rogue was in 4th, but Paladin, Sorc, and Warlock make sense since a CHA class is ideal for being the face of the party.

>>719064365
Doesn't really matter when no actual humans played the game.

>>719064365
>CHAfags at the top
>WISfags at the bottom
>ranger the highest of the latter bunch somehow
that's actually pretty interesting for the larian's "every party member is equivalent" sort of system
i imagine owlcat's games have a very different spread just because dialogue skillchecks only care for the highest number in your party

>>719064934
Is this guy really using a post that misunderstood what was said as any kind of proof?

>>719064107 (OP)
Usually it's the class that makes the most sense for an adventurer. I want to play other classes but they're rarely well implemented in the story or what the game asks you to do. Like if I play a Rogue/Thief kinda guy, the games often make me feel like I'm playing a different flavor of warrior.

>>719064107 (OP)
Women don't use violence, they manipulate people to turn on each other. That's where magic comes from. Incantations are basically just "talking like a woman".

This is why every male magic user is trans. That's why fighter is the only choice.

Paladin in this game has a ridiculous retarded spell that doubles your damage (Divine Smite) so it makes sense why it's the most popular one

>>719065058
I mean he once misunderstood a witcher thread for a baldur'a gate one. Don't expect too much from the autist that hates BG3.

>>719064107 (OP)
Why put the option to be a generic warrior in the fucking game if you're gonna be a bitch about it when I choose it?

>>719064107 (OP)
This >>719064140
It's simple

Responding to yourself in 2 threads at once now. Tencent marketing putting out the big bucks for automation after 2 years.

This guy presents himself as some fighter for truth, yet he has to rape his own saved images to be more and more unreadable to avoid being searched in the archive to see just how obsessed he is.

Imagine being mad for 3 years in a row because you can't comprehend that people like a game you dislike.

>>719065372
I'm Chinese and I work at Tencent, we made BG to spy on you and steal your American penis so we can grind it up into penis powder to make ours stronger.

It's just business, don't get too bothered by it.

OP is the kind of lamer faggot that makes a lightning magic based crossbow wielding paladin who ends up being useless as fuck in every context because the depth of that fantasy ends with the sentence describing it

Just fuck off and go play Overwatch you cringe bluehair tourist

>>719064107 (OP)
Raw strength is the coolest. Magic is gay. Simple as.

>>719064107 (OP)
Cause knights with giant sword is cool and heavy armour is awesome

Not even just Baldurs Gate, pretty much ever class based RPG ever had some sort of Warrior as the top class.

I love playing as a regular guy in a fantasy world. Using your skill and tools to compete with magic fags is pretty fun

>>719064107 (OP)
I go rogue in every rpg because of big crits and being able to manipulate locks and people. Fighter is always the most boring and "safe" way to play.1

>>719064107 (OP)
I don't ever get to swing swords at shit in my day to day life.

>>719064107 (OP)
>average character
funfact the default human was black, so they were butthurt that most of their player dared to generate a white male

>>719064107 (OP)
You know I think I've seen this kind of thread so much that the only people who enter and talk in it anymore are people who just fucking hate Baldur's Gate 3 and want to tell everyone else about how much they hate it.

>>719064107 (OP)
>Fighter or Paladin
Unironically among the most fun classes to play in BG3 unless you pick champion.

>>719064107 (OP)
I pick a simple, straightforward, solid character as my main so that if I get ambushed I won't instantly die, and so that I have time to figure out how the other characters play and interact with my own.

>>719064107 (OP)
How do you still not get it? People don't want to be someone else. People want to live in fantasy world AS themselves. It's literally why isekai shit is so popular. It's all escapism.

>>719064107 (OP)
why do you guys consider fighter generic? do you have a two handed mace irl? do you go to the grocery store with a sword and a shield? do you have a magic dragon plate helm?
fucking retards

>>719064934
anon, that pic says the steam players are about 12 millions but i wouldn't be surprised if basic reading comprehension is too hard for you

>>719065372
i kinda am curious as to why you think tencent would bother shilling a game that is over 2 years old now, with no future updates planned and that, according to you, sold poorly

It lost shitloads of money on bots, shills, and outsourcing costs. That's why WotC took the money and ran laughing. They're not allowed to even touch the IP again. And Tencent cut the check. Absolute desperation for sales and continuing the astroturf.

>>719064107 (OP)
its OP as fuck

>>719066736
They have an ad agency running threads around the clock with janny approval this week. Porn and everything.
The game has gone weeks with zero threads the past year. And just read the replies: AI
It's the most painfully obvious ad campaign anyone has ever seen. And people still have no idea what the fuck the game even is outside niche crpg circles.

>>719066736
To steal American penises

>Why you want to eat a steak when there is so many turds to eat?
Cause i don't eat shit.

>>719066901
This thread is not even about BG, just that meme image from their development where they were upset the most popular character was a “boring” white guy.

>This thread is not even about BG
They never are, because they can get deleted for spam. The jannies advise them to make something slightly off-topic so it's not so obvious.

Even though that's also hypocrisy. The schizo agency makes this thread constantly.

>>719066968
Anon, this rthread was made by the same guy so he could post his folder.

>>719064107 (OP)
all the spells in bg3 were generic and boring literally every single class had the access to all the same spells so you might aswell just swing a big sword and use default attack for the entire game

>>719067029
So it's some weird Barneyfag-like virtuesignalling?

>>719064704
Because Wizard and other Magic Users are only fun to play if the game's magic system is fun, which most Devs struggle to make. On the other hand, those same Devs (usually) have a much easier time making a fun combat system of you beating some schmuck with a big stick.

>>719067142
Protip: Once you're outed as a schizo, it's really easy for random anons to trigger you

>Paladin
>half-elf
>sex: selunite Shadowheart
Yep, its gaming time

>>719064965
Owlcat games got some solo checks too, CHA classes are the most popular still.

>>719066901
you did not answer the question, why are they bothering with a game that supposedly no one likes, no one bought, no one played and has no updates anymore?

the answer is right here >>719066772

>>719067783
companies are famous for pouring moneys onto wasted projects instead of focusing on others. that's why concord is still alive and has active shills, they need to make back those 400 millions

>>719067891
china is about saving face. nothing more.

did they ever fix the evil choices in this game or is it still

It's an incomplete fucking mess made by incompetency eurojank devs that blew through crowd funding and needed to suck china dick to launch. what do you think?

>>719064365
Makes complete sense.
Tav/Urge are going to be doing 90% of the interactions, so Charisma and skill check classes make sense. You also don't get any characters of those classes (Yes, Minthara exists, I imagine most normies don't know how to get her on non evil playthroughs)
The wisdom classes being at the bottom sorta makes sense. You get 2 druids (yes, you can reclass, most people I've talked to seem to act like it's not a feature so idk), and Wildshape used to be fucked for just skipping social encounters.
Monk sucks dick even after everything BG3 did to support it.
Cleric is still viewed as the party gimp class, and I would wager fucking HALF of those cleric playthroughs are specifically and explicitly doing the fucking thing with Shart.

>>719067964
No. Having them was kind of a mistake to begin with

>>719066593
>do you have a two handed mace irl?
Yes, I use it for splitting logs
>do you go to the grocery store with a sword and a shield?
I did once when I was like 12
>do you have a magic dragon plate helm?
It ain't magic, it's technically a plate, and it's only shaped like a dragon, but yes.

>>719064319
Shouldn't have made Oath of vengeance and oathbrealer so fucking kino then

>>719067142
Yes. He always posts his tencent botshillastrofturf shit within 10 minutes of the OP, he used to do it as soon as post timer ran out but that turned out too obvious.

>>719064578
Fighters are easy cause you can just do anything melee related

>>719064107 (OP)
Warriors usually play the same across games so they are appealing to someone who has zero idea of what they're getting into but know they like hitting stuff with a sword. Same with rogues except for people that like daggers and sneaking. Lots of times mages aren't just basic casters and rangers can be anything from a turret to a kiting class.

>>719068214
>role-playing game
>noooo, not that role!!!
its so fucking tiresome

>>719064107 (OP)
Paladin is a good pick for the protagonist because the protagonist is going to be the face of the party so the high charisma helps.

>>719068173
Everyone rightfully sees clerics as party sluts and game gives you prime cleric slut within first 5 minutes of gameplay. There’s objectively no reason to make your Tav cleric

>>719068928
You can handwave literally anything with "but muh roles", so it's not an argument.
The problem is that evil choices are usually
>retarded in the context of the story
>less rewarding gameplay-wise
>half-assed and added as afterthought
Implementing evil choices well means pretty making a new game and with a new story. And nobody has resources for that.
The best compromise is ME style alignment where you're offered somewhat different ways to reach the same-ish end point — RT's iconoclast / dogmatic is pretty close to that already and it works well. Meanwhile heretic is ridden with typical evil choice problems.

>>719069414
In OG ME at least the two alignments are both “good”, just one is more noble while the other is more ruthless and pragmatic.

>>719067921
but the face is safe? bg3 is held in high regard by most people

>>719064107 (OP)
Reminder that the developers tried to shame you for picking a white character. Would they have said the same if the most picked character was black?

>>719068173
>monk sucks dick
TB monk disagrees

>>719064934
Is he retarded..?

>>719069860
India has 78 average IQ

>>719069860
why ask a question you already know the answer to?

>>719064365
charisma is too overpowered because of the way dialogue works. if I can get Astarion to pick locks, I should be able to get him to smooth-talk mid-dialogue.
it's even more egregious in co-op. we couldn't do the STR, DEX or INT checks in dialogue with our appropriate fighter, monk and wizard characters. instead we just stand in the back like mutes while the leading designated speaker sorcerer fumbles those checks.

>>719064107 (OP)
People are afraid of cutting themselves out of content on the first playthrough and going generic is your best bet at getting to see the most the game has to offer. Same reason your first souls build always ends up as some kind of quality spellsword guy.

>>719069683
Reminder that nobody cares about /pol/turds crying over scenarios that they invented in their heads.

Anyone have some advice for potential fixes to the 'choices pending' level up bug ? Apparantly mods can cause this, but I have restarted the game and reloaded my save like 20 times now and it did let me confirm the level up once.

Stupidly I didn't save after that because I thought it was fixed. I don't really know why it worked that one time but at least it showed that successfully completing the level up is possible. If this happened to you I'm interested in hearing any weird shit you tried to get around it. Using withers doesn't work I already tried that.

>>719064107 (OP)
It's default, this means that most people will pick it and devs have to make sure that default class works for the average retard. Warrior/Soldier class is always the safe bet.

>>719070668
This. A straightforward tanky build is reliable and can usually withstand most of what the game offers. On a first playthrough I want to be immersed and experience as much of the game as possible from a vanilla perspective. Playing a wizard, rogue or some other weirdo class is for 2nd playthrough.

>>719071337
Just stop noticing things and they'll go away.

>>719069414
Nah, Larianniggers were just really lazy with BG3. It wouldn't have been that hard to implement an evil path. More quests in the tower in act 2. Some sort of hidden goblin camp in act 3 to make up for the lost NPCs in act 1 and 2. For some reason they thought that getting cucked out of content is the better choice.

>>719064319
>Rogue that low
Rogue really did get shit on by the devs post-vanilla.

>>719075140
Even in Vanilla Rogue was near the bottom.

Warrior and Mage were too overall but Paladin was the clear winner on Alliance.
Paladin is such a popular class in basiclaly every single game it exists in.

>>719074985
Larian is like "Wehh we can't put tabaxi in the game because its too hard" but thats fine, modders did the work Lazian studios wouldn't.

>>719069109
first 15 min you get 4/4 of the "classic trope" party of close range fighter, prime healer, prime caster and a scroundel type. You will 99% bench one of them since that comp is enough to beat the game and tav/durge will often be able to fill for any one of these roles. Everything past this is just flavour and wanting to check character interaction
>>719069683
>release early access beta
>ask people to test new options to see if something breaks
>people just wanna play and do basic dude
>a lot of extra shit for fantasy races breaks on model because lack of testing

>>719075248
Rogues were king of vanilla pvp and dps. Everybody was playing them (and hunters). People have been playing Classic and PServers for so long that they have forgotten that there were patches other than 1.12.1 (and its modern variants) and people played without WBuff spam.

>>719070454
isn't there a mod for solo play "everybody's here" or something like that so you can use companion stats and tags for dialogue without having to start it with them?

>>719064107 (OP)
fighters are broken as shit dawg