Thread 719075694

Why is Diablo II so revered?

fun

>>719075735
fpbp
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because it's the prototypical isometric action rpg
they're the first one to really hit the ball out of that specific park
it also holds up visually because it's sprite based

if you compare it to modern games of the genre you can find flaws, or things which they didn't do as good as they could have,
but it doesn't diminish the accomplishment it represents and the fun you can have playing it

it's literally the only arpg with a very charming atmosphere. every arpg released after og D2 looks like a dumb mobile game or a korean mmo for some reason

Diablo 1 was boring as shit, Diablo 2 is 100x better

Because it manages to both be the progenitor of the genre, as well as being one of the best, with aspects that none of the other aRPGs ever all managed to recapture.

Pretty different classes with multiple viable skills to build around
a campaign that holds up, both for a casual player just taking skills randomly and going through normal mode on his own, and as a collection of grind spots and challenges for hell runners.
Itemization is amazing. Low level items are still of interest for higher level characters, SOJ has a requirement of L 29 but BOS for many builds. Set items can be used on their own, as a partial set, or full set, depending on the item. Like angel halo for the hit rating, or guillaime's on its own. Or an entire set. Uniques on different levels are useful. Like titan's revenge isn't the elite version of javelins. White and grey items are still interesting as basis for runeword items. Yellows can be good if they roll amazing resistences, +skill and the like. Only blue is mediocre. Runewords and 0skills unlock many new options as well.
Trading and grinding feel good

Most of the other games either make the killing feel bad, or the campaign feel like a thin varnish to cover up a grindaton.

>>719075694 (OP)
It's
>Casual
>Easy
>Gambling sim
So shitters here adore it

>>719076769
I remember the dumb arguments in favor of the artstyle for D3 and now every game has that ugly toon style Warcraft look while Diablo 2 still looks unique and the remaster looks gorgeous.

Diablo 1 unironically plays like a phone game.

Cookie Clicker progenitor.

>>719077909
>gorgeous
what they did to the characters is not gorgeous

>>719075694 (OP)
Because it established many core mechanics of the isometric ARPG genre.

>>719077226
This anon really gets it. Literally almost anything can be immensely valuable. From finding a charm, or a rune, to a random yellow claw or shield. To the most valuable item I ever found which was a white item with sockets that made a perfect base for a rune word. Every class felt great to play. But to this day no game as done good itemization. Which is impactful prefix and suffix closest ive seen is borderlands 1 where guns could roll with basically any part in the game creating cool and powerful combos

I really should buy some anaglyph 3d glasses.
And put an anaglyph 3d mode in my game.

>>719075694 (OP)
THE SORCERESS OWES ME SEX

>>719075694 (OP)
it was a massive step forward from diablo 1, the first of its kind and was so good it created its own genre

Because we were children you underage homo

someone said POE2 is the fat kid Diablo II and i totally get it now.

>you need to grind your life away, what are you? A DAD?A!?!? (is 45 years old)
>Hard? COMBAT IS GREAT YOU ARE GETTING FILTERED (struggled on every fight)
>We are making the original campaign.....but LE GRIM DARK........Act 3 bads........ eat POO POO... and they.......... DONT SHOWER

it's basically a parody of Diablo 2 for mouthbreathers.

It has been a strong hit to my ego to admit that Mephiles is a much better shortening of Mephistopheles than Mephisto.

>>719079635
>>719077909
Even ignoring the awful looking barbarian, amazon and assassin, the enviroments aren't always an upgrade.
The desert looks way too desaturated in the remaster. The walls inside the tombs also become more generic.

>>719075735
fpbp

>>719079635
You're never going to be close enough to look at them in game for that to even matter

>>719081262
None of this is true
you can beat the campaign with no grind, and it's all pretty easy.
The campaign isn't any more grimdark than diablo 2 (the game that starts with the protagonist of the previous game having their soul eaten by the antagonist)

>>719075694 (OP)
bleak atmposphere, even when you are at bright dessert it feels uncanny, like something is behind each corner. further games didn't replicate that

>>719075694 (OP)
>Pioneered and refined the addicting and ultra rewarding looter hack-n-slash, isometric action RPG
>Amazing art style, tone, atmosphere and world building with deep, rich lore
>Iconic soundtrack
>Good cast of playable characters with actual good diversity and huge build variety

>>719081629
>follows a build

>>719081105
Where does one even GET 3D glasses these days?

Preexpansion was fun with railroaded build (sf for sorc or iron maidenbfor nec and dual leech physicals). LOD was fun for a while but rune drop rate were too much for me. Everquesr and then Ragnarok Online also were around that time so I just moved on and never been into Enigma grinding bullshit.

>>719077289
t.never cleared baal on hell still seething

>>719081909
>rune drop rate
You unironically played it wrong. Trade uniques for high runes. Use battle.net I cant imagine a more miserable goal than self farming HRs.

>>719081701
Completely unrelated to what I said and also not true, you can just fart around for the campaign, you only need a build during the post-game.
Diablo 2 is a much better game but you are making up problems that don't exist about poe.

>>719082192
Nigga you can softlock the game with certain classes, who are you trying to fool

>>719081509
They added a zoom feature, and every time you log in and see your characters, your character is displayed in a giant modeled, rather than the old topdown sprite preview.
The artstyle of D2 was sexy and horrifying and gore. There is no reason for them to uglify and cover up characters, except for libtard induced brain damage.

>>719076769
>every arpg released after og D2 looks like a dumb mobile game or a korean mmo for some reason
It's harder to sell the game to 10-year-olds if it looks like Diablo. Even D4 looks tame compared to Diablo 1. Diablo's violence and aesthetics were fairly grounded.

>postgame
>trading
You are exactly the faggots that made gaming so awful that people still reminisce about a 25 year old game.

>>719082296
If you compare the D1 to D4 intro, you can see that D4 is pretty fantastical. Definitely more grounded than D3, but there is an element of fantasy to all the violence and gore.

>>719082247
In the main campaign?
Nigga I'm not talking about the post game maps, you can easily beat the game with basically any build.