Thread 719080661

Capcom is fucked.

>>719080661 (OP)
I hope they can pull it off this time.
But it's highly unlikely
Also it's going to be ue5 slop.

>>719080661 (OP)
please be good, that's all I ask

>Original IP
>AAA
>From scratch
So in 10 years but really cancelled into bankrupcy halfway through, and even if it comes out, it's going to be a dulled out copy of something they wished they could have made with their original studios but castrated to avoid legal action.
Got it.

>>719080661 (OP)
Good on them, he is building a team.

>>719080803
>Also it's going to be ue5 slop.
Not too different than RE engine slop.

>[OLD DEV] that made [GAME YOU LOVE] is starting a [NEW TEAM] and making a [NEW GAME]

Cool, but I'm not gonna get excited until they have an actual game to show off and you can actually play. We've heard way too many of these stories and then literally nothing happens

>>719080661 (OP)
OMG....WE ARE SO BACK.....

>>719080661 (OP)
It's sad to lose Ikeno.
But this new "AAA game from scratch" will absolutely flop, they all do.

>>719081215
Yeah, I'm not sure that people employed by the bloated Japanese corporatogracy for years are cut out to be entrepreneurs.

So Dragon's Dogma 2 is just dead huh?

>>719080661 (OP)
If they make a new hack n slash they better keep in the ability to do aerial combos

>>719080661 (OP)
bluds named gouda cheese

>>719080661 (OP)
well kojima hasn't made a good game since he left konami, so im not getting my hopes up

I hate Genki so much!

>>719081215
I'm tired of giving shilled names money for stuff they actually didn't do. Inafune dropped the ball, the dead space guy got embarrassed by indians even with all the goodwill by its side, Rattatan somehow made the patapon steam remaster collection look incredible even with input lag. I will not even start with Dragons Dogma 2 because there are people here still coping over how unfair crapcom was with this fart.

>>719080661 (OP)
As being shown with Pragmata, Onimusha and RE9. These olds are not needed at Capcom's anymore. New talent has replaced them.

>>719081456
Kento Kinoshita probably will probably be responsible for the dlc if we have one

>>719080661 (OP)
>SHITsuno

>>719081192
runs a little better than RE engine, to be honest.

>>719081048
TRUTH NUKE

>>719080661 (OP)
Gouda cheese?

>>719080661 (OP)
It's gonna be fantasy rpg of Itsuno's dreams attempt №3, isn't it?

>>719080661 (OP)
>from the creators of
It's going to be shit.

GODSUNO'S VISION IS ABOUT TO BE BACK!!!
I'M READY TO HAVE A BLAST

>>719080661 (OP)
>makes gatcha game for phones

Has there been even one positive example of a big honcho dev turning his back to big publishers and making a great game with his own stuido? I can't think of any. The part of managing the studio and doing all the shit that is not making the actual game usually consumes all the time and only a wet fart comes out.

>>719082806
Bloodstained somehow stuck to landing. Kojimbo did too even if it triggers autists to no end

>>719081305
Still in disbelief how badly DD2 missed the mark.

>>719080661 (OP)
The retard who made dragons dogma 2? Yeah im good on anything that blowhard makes.

>>719083009
>Kojimbo did too even if it triggers autists to no end
His game is overhyped garbage but it was successful as all hell.

>>719082806
Suda51

>>719082806
Death Stranding is unironically kino. Havn't gotten around to DS2 yet.

>>719080661 (OP)
I would be so hopeful seeing Itsuno and Ikeno together at a new studio, even after DD2, but it's a Chinese studio. That's the black mark of death.

>>719080661 (OP)
>>719081048
Yeah not excited, this just sounds like more trendchasing rather than trying to make a great game. Itsuno had his chance, multiple chances really and he keep fucking up.

>>719083009
>>719083236
>turning his back to big publishers
Death Stranding was almost entirely bankrolled by Sony

>>719080661 (OP)
>original AAA IP
honestly I think they should just spend some time making weird fun things, maybe make a power stone spiritual successor since that's what Itsuno wanted to do at Capcom

>>719082183
Pragmata is directed by a gook and will be shit, and Nakanishi isn't new nor is he talented at all. RE7 was shit. Onimusha might be good.

>>719082806
Yuzo Koshiro, Falcom fucked him over then he became a legend like many devs who worked at Falcom in the 80s.

>>719083227
>successful
only the first game and it barely sold 7 million copies years after release

>>719080661 (OP)
Gouda is a good cheese

>>719080661 (OP)
>Hacks that haven't made anything good since 2006 create their own studio
Lol, sure worked well for all the other japs like Oatmeal cookie or Nagoshi.

best of luck.
godspeed.
i hope they can cook something good together.

>>719083528
>Emmentaler is a good cheese
ftfy

>>719080661 (OP)
>AAA IP from scratch
Should've made smaller games first before going in for the big thing. I get it though, they're old, they can't afford to do that shit anymore, but still, there's too much risk in it.

>>719083447
RE9 won best game at Gamescom retard. All 3 have been getting great reception.

>>719080661 (OP)
>narrative designer
>character designer/art director
>illustrator
Oh no their game is going to look like DMC5, the horror. How will Capcom ever recover?

>>719080661 (OP)
Kind of sad to see them follow a hack like itsuno to their inevitable doom.

>>719082806
I guess the Clover studios devs leaving to found Platinum is an example, even if Platinum are pretty stagnant and most of those devs have left there now too.

>>719082806
Takashi Nishiyama made classics for 3 different publishers before he founded Dimps

>>719083689
If their game actually looks nice it will cement RE engine as the worst thing that ever happened to capcom.

>>719080661 (OP)
>narrative designer
>character designer
>illustrator
"I'm an ideas guy."

>>719083771
Dimps fucking sucks

>>719080661 (OP)
He had 10 years to plan the perfect sequel to DD and fucked up spectacularly.
He's just another hack like Kojima.

How funny would it be if Itsuno ends up using one too many DD ideas and gets sued by Capcom into oblivion

>>719083842
that's a big fucking if right there

>>719083843
Yes...they are literally professional idea men, the exact people you need to make a new IP. Itsuno is the mechanics man.

>>719082806
Tokuro Fujiwara

>>719083980
But where are they going to get the "lotsa money to throw away on development" guy?

>>719082218
Only Itsuno cared about DD. The only reason we got DD2 was because DMCV was popular. Capcom never gave or will give a shit. I hoped he left some talented jap for DLC/sequel, but if he's hiring then, its better that they don't even try to make a sequel.

>>719083965
These guys are from the old street fighter days, there's nothing about their aesthetic sensibilities that indicates they love gritty realism.

>>719083682
>the cinematic walking and hide and seek game is popular with the media
That's nice, but I've played 7 and it's complete dogshit so I know 9 will be the same dogshit. Try playing games instead of just reading about them. Fucking idiot.

>>719084104
Tencent or some Chinese company. They are already throwing money at Japanese Devs.

>>719080661 (OP)
blackrock founding i presume? don't see how itsuno would've raised the capital given capcom always underpaying his projects

>>719083925
Capcom isn't Nintendo. They don't try to patent every mechanic in their games. If they did, no other fight games would exist besides Mortal Kombat.

>2026 on onward Capcom games
>MHW wilds expansion
>RE9
>Onimusha
>Pragmata
>Okami 2

Capcom isn't even thinking about them. They've moved on.

>>719083843
>Yeah I've got a lot of kino ideas for your game bro, coding? Nah sorry, not my style.

>>719080661 (OP)
>narrative designer
>character designer/art director
>illustrator
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh
coder? programmer?

>>719084304
They can hire indians for that garbage
Ideas are where it's at

>>719080661 (OP)
>from scratch
Oh yeah, Capcom will be totally fucked. In like 10 years, if they even manage to make a game.

>>719084147
>Try playing games
Literally thousands played it last week that were just normal gamers that had no media ties and loved it. You're immature cope is pathetic.

>>719083145
I'm curious why they put zero post launch effort into it
What exactly did itsuno do to Dd2 for it to be in its do-not-touch state

>>719084353
but those are all artfags... they know nothing about game design...

>>719082806
It doesn't really count because sakurai still works with Nintendo but he's the only example of a director that split from his original team and went on to continuously work with random people yet no matter who he worked with his games felt like his.

In every other case it feels like the director is just taking credit for other people's ideas and work.

>>719084380
>I don't need to play games because I read gaming news!
The sad part is you're probably not joking.

>>719084304
>Hiring a programmer to create a new IP
Lol

>>719083842
The engine doesn't dictate artstyle you fucking caveman.

>>719083843
A job so easy that no one on /v/ has it, even when AI is a thing, interesting

>>719084413
>itsuno is an artfag.
Quick get him some tranny programmers, they won't have any good ideas unless a super autist explains why everything they want to make is impossible.

>>719082261
>a little

>>719083009
>Kojimbo did too
no

>>719084545
Engines can dictate company workflows and company workflows can heavily influence art direction. There is no other explanation for 100% of capcoms output collapsing into a single art style.

>>719080661 (OP)
>Gouda Cheese
Not even Kojima could come up with such a cheesy name

>>719084741
>There is no other explanation for 100% of capcoms output collapsing into a single art style.
An exec tells them to use hyper realism as an artstyle and to make females look "realistic" (read:ugly).

>>719081215
>Warren Spectre's Epic Mickey

>>719084304
I know that the average retard in here knows jack about game dev, but do you fags think games are "made" by code monkeys? Modelers and coders are just there to follow the ideas guys' vision

>>719080661 (OP)
Unless he's making an actual Dragon's Dogma 2 (legally distinct) I dunno if I care.

>>719084912
Games are easy as fuck to make. You just type a bunch of 1s and 0s into notepad and save it as a .game file.

>>719084248
>look at all this slop!

>>719085064
Shit games are easy to make, that's why more than half of steam is filled with shovelware made by indians

Dragons Dogma was my last hope for AAA games and it was a travesty.

>>719085095
Who's got a better line up in the next 2 years?

>>719083745
Madworld-Vanquish-Bayonetta era of Platinum was an amazing start for that studio. Everything went downhill after that.

>>719080661 (OP)
>More boomers that leave to make clones that will sell less then quit

>>719082032
>>719085245
Exactly, hell, Mikami didn't even make TEW, that was a woman who made it yet Mikami put his name on it, these boomers want to live on their names not work

>>719083009
I think ds1 was strong thanks to the novelty of it plus Reedus and mads, now ds2 proved his games are just kojima doing dumb shit with boring celebrities

>>719083842
The engine is not bad, it's Capcom listening to (((consulting))) companies, just look at how much cooler Chris looked in Village by just making him more gaming like

>>719083009
>Bloodstained
It was a pile of dogshit. There are very few worse metroidvanias than shitstained. It is down on the list next to Axiom Verge although I will at least give it the courtesy of being superior to Axiom Verge 2.

>>719085125
You just gotta find the right ratio of 1s and 0s for a good game. Plus everyone knows that the more numbers you put the longer the game is

>>719085245
A Dragon's Dogma clone that's actually finished and isn't filled with black nights and ugly pawns would be perfect. Just ditch the shitty dating sim mechanics and the muh cycles story as well and it's perfect.

>>719085497
>A new ip
>Without relying on lent money
Not happening

>>719080661 (OP)
This Japenis is called Gouda Cheese KEKAROO

>>719080661 (OP)
Not one of these great jap auteurs ever delivered anything worth a shit once they got expunged from their original studios. Kojingles cuckies need not apply.

Except bald midget and Bayo I guess. But Bayo 3 killed both him and Platinum so whatever.

>>719085776
in fairness I'm still not entirely convinced that Nagoshi's new studio wasn't just money laundering to pay for his ugly ass vaneers

>>719085602
They're literally bankrolled by a Chinese publisher.

>>719085920
LMAO

Threadly reminder that DD2 is absolutely fine as a game and sequel and only discord trannies and those who fell for their shit deslike it. Itsuno never made a bad game despite being constantly set back by Capcom and i hope only for the best for him in his future for saving DMC twice.

>>719086991
>DD2 is absolutely fine as a game and sequel
Kill yourself. I sincerely mean it.

>>719080661 (OP)
It's pretty obvious that Capcom fucked over DD2's development. I wish these gentlemen the best

>>719082806
Sakaguchi.
Blue Dragon, ASH, Lost Odyssey, The Last Story and Fantasian are better than FF XIII, XIV, XV and XVI.

>>719086991
DD2 is good but I want a post game still, game ended while I was still having fun.

>>719087040
Statistically speaking you're far more likely to suicide before him.

>>719080661 (OP)
Remember how good Outer Worlds was, a game from the creators of Fallout?
Remember how good MindsEye was, a game from the creators of GTA?
Remember how good Mighty no 9 was, a game from the creators of MegaMan?
Remember?..

>>719080661 (OP)
Potential Man strikes again

>>719087310
You might have a point if I was actually a discord tranny and not just someone with 300+ hours in DD who was disappointed by what an unfinished mess 2 was. You sound like a thirdie shitposter, so statistically you'll soon die to unclean water.

>>719087541
You got xim

>>719080661 (OP)
Another Nagoshi?

>>719080661 (OP)
It just keeps happening

>>719080661 (OP)
getting some Inafune vibes from this ngl

>>719080661 (OP)
Dragon's Dogmas spiritual successor will finally be the game he always dreamed about.

DMC6 outsourced to Platinum

>>719087579
You're brown and you don't play video games.

I have more faith in HideHACKi Itsuno than in modern Crapcom, even if DD2 was a bona fide scam.

Why not test the water with a AA game first?

Name three games from [devs who were tangentially related to a successful game] that turned out to be good.

>>719085920
>he fell for the "pure white" meme
kek.

>>719080661 (OP)
Time for a bunch of worse than Platinum tier samey flops.

>>719082806
I was thinking about the same thing, it almost never works out. There are some really big exceptions though because of Call of Duty and Infinity Ward are one example. But generally, trying to make an "AAA game from scratch" turns out horribly.

>>719080661 (OP)
>>719082806
>it's another "Japanese industry veterans form a new studio when in reality they're just getting bought out by Chinese money" episode

>>719083009
Bloodstained looks like shit and it feels extremely rushed after the middle game. Also,
>lol we hid the spike blocking armor in a place a player won't even think to look at without a guide.

>>719080661 (OP)
I'm sure Hacktsuno's vision will work this time

>>719088236
Bayonetta, Vanquish, Mad World, Wonderful 101, Evil Within.

>>719088236
As mucha these types of games never turn out good, Itsuno and Ikeno aren't tangentially related to DD and DMC3.

>>719083145
I had a lot of fun with DD2. It could have been way better, but I still liked it.

>>719087541
I didn't ask for your gay fictional biography, tranny. Getting so upset over a video game you want people to kill themselves is unhinged freak shit, tone it down if you wanna pass (you never will lmao).

>>719081305
Kek, DD2 really shattered Shitsuno's reputation huh

Blast bros... WE'RE SO BACK

>>719088754
Pipe down, brownie. Real people are talking.

>>719089026
You got xim

>>719088532
no harm in fleecing china money IMO

>>719088665
Did they fix Evil Withins steam version?

>>719087316
Dont bother, gamers never learn.

>>719082261
RE engine is great when its not trying to be open world slop

>>719080661 (OP)
>gouda cheese
couldn't even get pepper jack, baka

>>719082806
Platinum. (Bayonetta 1-3 are better than anything DMC related)

>>719081192
re engine is a million times better than unstraight troongine slop

>>719080661 (OP)
>Former hack hired 3 other hacks to develop new IP
LOL LMAO EVEN

>>719089305
they're the same level shit

>>719080661 (OP)
Light Speed Japan is a cringe name, but I look forward to seeing what they make.
Capcom can suck my tiny dick.

>>719082806
ancient, for starters
and the guy who did moon rpg after composing axelay and castlevania 4
quintet, for another

How come Capcom are never able to hold onto their talent? I remember Squeenix poaching a bunch of their guys as well.

>>719089305
RE Engine was great for Resident Evil games. And everything they've tried since has been varying levels of disaster. SF6 looks absolutely awful. DD2 and MHWi runs like boiled ass even on consoles.

>>719083842
>muh looks
nigger, go watch a fucking movie, videogames are about GAMEPLAY where did you fucking redditors who need to go back come from? go the fuck back already

>>719080661 (OP)
Thats cool but the fact that they are working with unreal engine and chinks makes me not really look forward to anything, I’ll keep my expectations on hold until they truly make something worthy of Itsuno san’s legacy. I have hopes but Im cautious is what imm sayin

>>719080661 (OP)
Dragon's Smegma incoming

>>719089107
Post hand.

>>719089465
Capcom doesn't make new shit anymore, pragmata looks creatively bankrupt and it's their first real attempt at a new AAA IP since the 360 era. If you're bored of working on RE, street fighter, dmc and monster hunter you're going to want to quit.

>>719089465
Supposedly it's all Tsujimoto's fault.

>>719089465
take your pick:

Historically you couldn't just import a billion Indians so talent was highly valued and actively headhunted
The Chinese are absolutely desperate for a slice of Japanese soft power they'll give devs vast amounts of money.
Japanese CEOs are absolutely retarded and would rather cut off a foot than improve the working conditions and hours beyond the 16 hour days they experienced when they actually did work.
Studio heads are far more famous than they are here, and the fame goes to their heads, believing they don't need the corporation. Not helped by Kojima making it solo.

>>719089627
It's VIDEO games, you dumb cunt.

>>719080661 (OP)
Gouda hasn't had actual work in like 2 decades now lmao

>>719089627
Retard normie, if you want absolute realism then YOU need to fuck off and watch a movie. I'm not going to get into how the over reliance on mocap has fucked their combat systems in an effort to chase realistic animation.

>>719085219
>oh screw actual fun games to play like MGR and W101, MadWorld is da best because art style
Play the game again, even Anarchy Reigns feels more smooth to play.

>>719089493
sf6 is in re engine? really? because it looks like ueslop
if that's the case maybe i'll try it after all, i thought all of 4 5 and 6 were ueslop and so i have been avoiding them primarily for that reason

Crapcom was holding them back and now they’re free from their tranny shackles and can finally make absolute kino again

>>719080661 (OP)
>AAA slop
it's beyond dead

>>719090209
Sf5 was ue, 6 is re engine. Sf5 actually looks better but is a shitty game.

>>719090046
illiterate nigger retard, how fucking stupid do you have to be to think i said anything REMOTELY like wanting fucking ```realism''' nigger i want GAMEPLAY not fucking >HURR DURRRR MUH GRAFX
go.
watch.
a.
fucking.
movie.
hell 100% of the shit on snoystation are already fucking gameplayless movies anyways

>>719090209
4 is MT Framework (previous capcom engine)
SF5 is UE4
SF6 is REengine
just download the demo on steam/psn b4 you buy 2bh

>>719090287
Sf5 was a shitty game but at the end it was better than slime fighter 6 by large margin

>>719080661 (OP)
Hope they made a goon game though...

>>719090237
I don't know if I really want Lightwalkers: Stones of Power or Dragon Fighter 2(the prequel is a paid dlc for Lightwalkers: Angels Wont Laugh)

>>719080661 (OP)
>Capcom announce that DMC is now one of their top properties
>proceed to do nothing with it
>fuck around for years until the director leaves
Great job, retards. Can't wait for the next entry to be more outsourced garbage like DmC was.

>>719090468
How fucking so?

>>719090468
Nope

>>719090468
least obvious /fgg/ poster

>>719089810
I just found out Pragmata has a Korean director and all my hype for it instantly vanished.

>>719090468
You triggered the hivemind lol

>>719089252
so no hope for capcom then?

>>719089898
In Kojima's case it really helps that he is one of the few very well established and known Jap game devs in the west.

Whereas someone like Sakaguchi is big in Japan but isn't as familiar to the west and has had a harder time reaching big sale numbers with his independent games.

>>719081871
It annoys me how he always uses exclamation points even for bad news.

>>719090701
>Terminal contrarian thinks he isn't the hivemind on 4chan

>>719080661 (OP)
No dev that left Capcom had a successful story. Not one.
Kamiya is back at Capcom, Mikami is retired, both their studios are in shambles.

>>719088871
It was weak and had really bad performance issues, but otherwise it wasn't anything career shattering. Itsuno could have easily recovered, don't understand why people are acting like this was LoU2 or some shit.

>>719090701
and all I had to do was state facts

>>719090758
Capcom is the all-star team than gives directors a big head, when they leave they realise it's fucking impossible to recreate or even retain that level of talent on their own

>>719090753
How is that contrarian? Everyone who isn't suffering sunk cost fallacy knows SF6 is and looks like shit.

>>719089282
Extremely wrong and gay opinion. Never post again.

>>719089305
Most retarded post itt

>>719084248
Expansion to a dead game ,re9 look like big poop,Onimusha as never been a big seller.Pragmata probably wont come out for another year or 2.Okami 2 is a meme.

>>719090587
You say this until it releases and it lurk nippon sovl kino and not this western slop cancer crapcom has been shitting in your mouth chasing never ending profit

>>719090972
Lol, retarded contrarian.

>>719090972
I agree sf6 looks like shit, I'm the first one who said it. It's contrarian to say sfv is better, that is becoming an incredibly popular contrarian opinion to hold here. It is often driven by the fact that sfv has a better art style, ignoring that the game was abysmal to play

>>719081048
>old good new bad
yawn

>>719091000
hope timmy tencent is paying you well to shill here, retarded faggot

5 is INFINITELY better than slop fighter 6 and I’m tired of trannies denying this simple fact
max isn’t here bro you don’t have to lie

>>719091165
>sfv has a better art style

Maybe if you have shit smeared in your eyes. Do you have shiteyes, anon?

>>719080661 (OP)
If they make a fighting game they are hyper based, especially if they innovate 3d fighting game mechanics. If they make a DMC clone with a different skin you know they are creatively bankrupt and it's over.

>>719091296
SFV has better art style for anyone with healthy eyes. I can see how a shitskin can think SF6 looks better tho.

Idiots arguing over whether sf5 or sf6 are the better looking game is kinda retarded because they're both ugly as shit

>sf6 uses dejewvo
nevermind, i won't be bothering then

>>719091296
My eyes are so nice people pay me to tell them what they see.

>>719088735
>had a lot of fun with DD2.
Thank you for your personal anecdote.

>>719091375
Yeah, but 6 is one the ugliest, most disgusting, revolting looking pieces of rancid shit I’ve ever seen thoughbeit

>>719080661 (OP)
"Key people" aren't shit without the actual video game developers. See Itagaki.

>Contrarians having the biggest contrarian argument ever in this board
>Say they aren't contrarian
Never change /v/
Pro tip: calling massively popular and hyped games bad doesn't help your argument. Yes really.

>>719080661 (OP)
Interesting. Worth watching

>>719091321
It's got to be a fantasy adventure. That's the their dream game.

>>719091767
>popular = good!
and you're trying to call anyone else contrarian? lol, go back

>>719091834
Yes, dragons dogma 0.25 dejavu edition

>>719091908
If they make DD 1.0 it'll be the best game ever. If they make DD 0.85 it'll still be the best game ever.

>>719091890
Hey thanks for the live example!

>>719091767
ok sphere hunter, ywnbaw btw

>>719091971
>No argument
>Random tranny bullshit
Lol

>>719090758
Kamiya is still independent, clovers is not owned by capcom.

>>719080661 (OP)
>daigo ikeno
big if true

>>719082806
>Has there been even one positive example of a big honcho dev turning his back to big publishers and making a great game with his own stuido?
Sakurai is essentially a Bandai-Nintendo intermediary and he has been producing hit after hit.
He earnt his freedom.

>>719092240
But they still came back to it because everything else failed.
Hell "clovers" is a direct reference to a Capcom studio they were a part of, they know they need Capcom to succeed

>>719092295
>earnt his freedom
Is he even really that free? 4, Ultimate, and Air Riders were all made because Nintendo told him to make them

>>719092178
>cuts off dick
>still male
spheretranny sisters…

>>719092346
If that were true they would be using capcom staff but they aren't. They do realise they need their legacy to secure funding because kamiya has done nothing but fuck up in the last decade

>>719092401
he proved himself to be a genius multiple times

>>719092295
Sakurai isn't free, he's still Nintendo's lapdog. He is the exclusive example of a director who deserves the majority of the credit on his games though.

Sakurai would be lauded as the greatest director who ever lived if he replicated kojimas approach to team building and made a hyper talented artist his pet. As he is he is restricted to utilising existing IP because he's not an experienced enough artist to generate them from scratch.

>>719081215
I mean, at the very very least we'll see new cool Ikeno art.

>>719093080
>Still going with the tranny angle out of nowhere
Man this has to be the biggest cope for losing an argument lol

>>719093086
They are using Capcom staff retard, Clovers staff is the vision for the game, Capcom has the monkey coder force. They have a really really small team to make any game alone.

So what happened with Dragon's Dogma 2, Capcom forced them to finish the game early for shareholders?

>>719093882
They are also working with two other studios that also work for Capcom. Kamiya already said that their studio is just a "core of elites" and they'll work with others for the games.

>>719093882
Nope, the are using M-two which is an outsourcing studio that capcom uses who just so happens to be...former platinum.

>>719093794
hope maxdood sees this sis!

>>719094259
They're former Capcom as well retard, Jesus just Google this shit next time.

>>719094009
That or he failed to make a good game in time and got too ambitious once again.

>>719094442
I'm inclined to believe the latter. The game was in development for what, 3 years?

>>719081048
Slitterhead bros.....maybe Toyama will fix the combat in the sequel haha

>>719094571
5 years if they started at the end of DMC5 development

>>719094408
So is kamiya and the whole of platinum senior leadership you fucking moron. Platinum is an offshoot of capcom.

>>719094571
Capcom never trusted the game though.
Let's not forget dd1(until dark arisen) and ddo failed

>>719094743
The engine was already built so they pretty much wasted much of the development time.

DD2 made me realize that Itsuno was the problem all along

>>719090683
fucking jej, no wonder the game looks dull as shit

pragmata should've been a new lost planet

>>719094914
I'll never forgive him to nerfing every single class - 4 FUCKING SKILLS? REALLY?
Also Warfarer is implemented like trash.

For newfags Gouda Cheese is BENGUS, the guy responsible for all the Marvel vs Capcom 2 art, and all the Street Fighter Third Strike Art.

Also, it's not listed here but AKIMAN is also at Lightspeed Studios.

LMFAOOOOO DISCORD FAGGOTS LOST SO HARD
S TO SPIT ON DISCORD TRANNIES

GET ROPED

GODTSUNO MAKING KINO

DISCORD BUCKS LOST (HARD)

>>719080857
>2003+22
>wanting things to be good
shiggy

>>719094571
To be honest a game that scope should take 5, 1 is barely enough to get all the pre-production in

>>719084223
Lightspeed is Chinese funded, so no DEI slop. Worst you will get is maybe swimsuit censorship, but at worst it will be region locked censorship.

>>719095213
What the fuck, I knew I heard the name Gouda cheese before but completely forgot it was bengus. I'm actually excited now he has the 3 most important artists from golden age capcom fighting games helping him. He just needs to grab nishimura and they will have the ability to finally revive old capcom aesthetics.

>>719095040
>Also Warfarer is implemented like trash
I'm convinced it was a last second addition whe. They realized the game was getting rushed out so they could pretend it had more vocations than 1.

>>719080661 (OP)
>Builds office in Osaka down the block from Capcom HQ
>Invited former coworkers for drinks at the new office
>Lock them in
Nothin personel kid

>>719080661 (OP)
>chinkshit DIRECT has hired CHINK ART GUY 1, CHINK ART GUY 2, CHINK ART GUY 3
yeah, now we are gayming boys
cant' wait for the next crapcom coded piece of trash OW game on the RE Engine!

>>719091968
you're such a daft retard, lol

neat

>>719095359
Can you please kill yourself, you relic of the past?

>discord damage control AI shitpost engine shortcircuiting trying to dunk on kino
blastchads winning rn

>>719080661 (OP)
How many years until their game fails and they go back to Capcom?

>>719094645
>fix the combat
People hated the combat? I thought it was fun in 1-on-1 fights.

>Mikami founds his onw studios, only makes flops and gets the studio closed
>Kamiya found his onw studios, only makes flops and gets the studio working like a support for others, leaves the studio for another studio he founded.
>DMC designer works for Square and Final fantasy, makes a gigantic turd of a game.
This time for sure!

>>719091272
yeah nothing screams "new" like hiring a bunch of people he used to work with.

>>719094009
The problem with DD1 was that it’s unfinished. The problem with DD2 is that it sucks ass. I don’t know if blaming the publisher for rushing them really applies here.

>>719095950
>virgin tsujimoto making cinematic yellow paint slop walk and talk "games" with less and less gameplay
lmao

Evil Within mogs Resident Evil in every way
Bayonetta mogs DMC1 in every way

you lost, I command thee kneel.

>>719095950
>capcom is so shit that even anyone formerly related to them turns to shit
sad

>>719095950
yeah bayonetta flopped so hard it got two sequels

DD2 fans, are we getting monkey's paw'd again?
>Scenario 1: we get Dark Arisen 2 from Capcom with Kinoshita
>Scenario 2: we get "Dark Arisen 2" from Lightspeed Studios

>>719096212
we're getting nothing

>>719096091
Jesus dude

>Lightspeed Japan
isn't Tak Fuji part of that?
what do they even do?

>>719096091
>Least contrarianfag in the thread.

>>719081048
>>719081215
happens all the time and people fall for it every single time
>callisto protocol
>mighty no. 9
>bloodstained
>the evil within
>death stranding
>lost odyssey
>devil's third

>>719080661 (OP)
I don't give a fuck about this stupid ass Ideas man studio. Anything they release will be SHIT

>>719096451
>>bloodstained
only good one

>>719096348
>>719096283
The evil within came out in 2014 and Capcom is *still* stealing gimmicks from it even in the requiem trailers.
Bayonetta is arguably the most iconic female character in gaming alongside samus, princess peach, and lara croft.

Kneel loser.

>>719096507
shit looks ugly as fuck and the only decent parts were ripped straight from sotn but worse

>>719096451
>>bloodstained
>>the evil within
>>death stranding
>>lost odyssey
these games are fine

>>719096573
I hope you're just trolling anon, for your sake.

>>719096451
Two of them are good, two of them are meh and the rest pure shit

People forget that Suda51 is also ex-capcom.

>>719085219
platinum clearly started going downhill in 2020 when covid probably fucked GG’s preproduction.

>>719096590
>it's going to be a dulled out copy of something they wished they could have made with their original studios but castrated to avoid legal action.
also all those games are 7/10

>>719096620
If you played Resident Evil Village, and you're implying it's not "The Evil Within, Capcom" you are being extremely uncharitable.

>>719080661 (OP)
this news got me blasting

>>719096683
7/10 is good unless you're a vidya journalist

>>719096726
You should get help

>>719080661 (OP)
Capcom is so allergic to anime style games (outside of collections) these days that I can't just bring myself to care about anything they do. Even the new Monster Hunter Stories has that safe chinese-korean gacha look that doesn't feel right.

>>719096578
>sotn but worse
That's everything Iga makes. Hagihara was the real talent.

>>719096787
it's not when you used to make 9s

>>719096726
based and correct

>>719096857
sotniggers are the most autistc breed imaginable
90% of igavanias mog shitphony

>>719096861
I don't grade on a curve

>>719096846
>safe chinese-korean gacha
So... Anime?

>>719096821
2014 game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24VwB6COBY8

2017 game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_M0eRmPDk4

2021 game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlh96z36abY

>>719096956
a downgrade is a downgrade

>>719081048
t. Max Dood

>>719096954
Handheld followups to consoleclassics are always worse, and only thirdies that grew up playing mostly shitty handheld games disagree. There is not a single Igavania even close to SotN.

>>719092560
In Smash4 case Nintendo told him: "We are going to get one made, are you in or out" and he went protective over it.
In Smash Ultimate, it came to him in the middle of 4's DLC when he brought back Lucas and MewTwo and he went... "May as well try to bring everyone back for the next one."
In Air Riders he did was asked in the middle of his youtube hiatus and he felt the pinch of the original project being incomplete.

>>719093565
He is free, he can leave anytime, but why leave when they basically let him do whatever he wants

>>719097138
and a 7 is a 7

Itsuno couldn't make a good game out of his dream game, with the same team he's gathering right now.
Nothing will change.

>>719097334
I don't think he wants to do anything. He sounds like an overworked salary man whenever he talks about game development. If Nintendo wasn't asking him to make shit he would have retired already.

Kirby Riders was also not his idea it was a request from Nintendo.

>>719089252
It was honestly already starting to struggle even with RE4 sized environments, not just open world stuff.

>>719096846
>Even the new Monster Hunter Stories has that safe chinese-korean gacha look that doesn't feel right.
I agree but it still looks bettering than everything else they’re doing

>>719097224
>Handheld followups to consoleclassics are always worse
kirby robobot

>>719097449
yeah it totally has nothing to do with the fact that the higher ups rushed it diverted funds to wilds which also flopped

>>719097449
This, the problem is that he doesn't have a clear vision of what to make outside DMC. It's clear that he wants to make a big fantasy game, but he gets lost in pointless features and details.

>>719097224
Contra 4

>>719097406
yeah it's not a 9

>>719097582
Dude had 4 full years of dev, I'm sorry anon but if that means "rushed" then something is wrong here.

>>719080661 (OP)

>Narrative designer
>Character designer
>Illustrator

I'm sure the promo art will be neat. Similar to that game Squeenix hired the MGS artist for. Promo art looked awesome but the game was shit.

>>719097650
yeah it's a 7 which is good

>>719097713
and not great

>>719097697
considering pretty much everything capcom puts out is crap yeah I'd agree there's a problem and also a common denominator

>>719080661 (OP)
Who cares? Capcom only makes slop since Remake 2 or earlier.

>>719097224
bullshit, you’re going full turdie sperg rage rn nigger

>>719097757
yep
good games are good

>>719097706
Did you forget that itsuno is a mechanics focused director. Did you want him to hire 50 other people to direct the shit he is already directing?

>>719097773
>considering pretty much everything capcom puts out is crap
seethe

>>719097224
monster hunter FU

>>719097863
lol did you actually buy Wilds?

>>719097840
and yet they will never be great nor are they comparable to the previous works

>>719097937
but they'll still be good and fondly remembered by many

>>719097773
He was capcom, capcom is made of devs, he had full control of his onw game. he fucked up.
>everything
miss me with that childish argument.

>>719097481
I think Sakurai just loves working + loves working with Nintendo IPs. I can't see him working on an original IP. With someone else, let's say Kamiya, you can expect an action game and maybe have it very Tokusatsu influenced, but with Sakurai I genuinely don't know what else he likes besides Nintendo IPs. Then again Kid Icarus was something I didn't expect so maybe he can reboot some niche non-Nintendo cartoonish IP.

>>719097937
do sotntroons really?

>>719080661 (OP)
I don's trust neither Itsuno nor Capcom after DD2.

>>719098010
>>719097898

>>719097987
>>719098078
sorry but I live in a black and white reality where a game can only be great or terrible so good = bad

>>719098089
>moves goalposts
So tiresome...

why are people dooming
capcom has pragmata and the creatives from kunitsu gami which are new ips
and itsuno has dmc/dd experience with no shackles on what he can or cant make
we can only go up from here

>>719097987
lol nobody even remembered lost odyssey until expedition 33 came out, and still majority didn't know what it was
nobody remembers evil within either unless someone talks about RE
death stranding was mostly forgotten until the second one came out
no one cares about bloodstained
all of those games have very little legacy
everyone remembers final fantasy
everyone remembers resident evil
everyone remembers metal gear
everyone remembers castlevania

>>719098046
Sakurai made a king of braves reference in one of his directs and he likes snk fighters so he obviously has more interests than just nintendo games

>>719098158
is that a yes?

wilds sucks, dd2 is unfinished, resident evil is hollywood crap, what else have you had lately? pretty much just kunitsugami

big move for japanese salary men

>>719098153
>vaxxed as a child
many such cases

>>719098239
>I don't remember so you don't remember
one of these clowns, huh? go ahead and keep honking I guess. it won't make me buy any capcom games though.

>>719080661 (OP)
Itsuno lost all his goodwill with me until he proves he can actually make a good fantasy game.
DD2 was a bad remake of DD1 and he should be ashamed of it.

>>719098359
kek who gives a shit what you buy retard? you are mentally ill, go buy the next slop from kojumbo for all i care

>>719098239
>slop33 out of nowhere
biggest cancer award

>>719098046
I don't see any special attachment to Nintendo IP from him besides Kirby which is his. He uses what he has easy access to but he'd do the same job at any major Japanese publisher. The characters he includes in smash indicates a love of the entire game industry. I think he just likes working within pre existing IP constraints because making games is already a pain in the ass without having to invent an entire universe (which isn't his area of expertise in the first place)

>>719098470
>kek who gives a shit what you buy retard?
you apparently

Don't care. Capcom is about to have their strongest year in decades in 2026.

>>719098510
mental illness
tell your psychiatrist you're reading imaginary posts online

>>719098239
>expedition 33
who?

>>719098453
>Itsuno lost all his goodwill with me
This, I completely erased him from memory after DD2, that shit left me heartbroken.

>>719098584
all I'm reading is a melty from a sperg who will reply to pretty much anything at this point

CAPCOM should have kept making games for the CPSII system and not this 3D slop shit

kinda feels like capcomfags are angry about itsuno leaving

>>719098680
yeah, it's crazy
some people just dig too deep and can't admit they're wrong
such a simple factual statement and you just had to argue against it like a retard

>>719098759
this

>>719098759
I also get that feeling. They like to trash DD2 but they never talk about MHW being an utter piece of shit. I guess their bias prevents them from realizing that Crapcom is the problem and not a single developer.

>>719098815
perchance

>>719098759
>>719098864
I want to say it's more likely to be marketers being paid to shit on him for leaving the company, but I'm probably giving these retards too much credit.

>>719098759
I don't care that he left, I care that DMC 5 and DD2 were shit. I'm actually hopeful he will create something that doesn't look like re engine dog shit now he's left with the most important artists at capcom.

I think 5-6 years from now if Itsuno ever releases his own game, then we'll be able to definitely determine if it was Itsuno or Capcom pooping the bed with DD/DD2. Not Tencent, but Netease also funded a few Japanese studios. Ouka Studios, Nagoshi Studio, and Grasshopper Manufacture.
Ouka released Visions of Mana, and flopped sales-wise. Nagoshi literally hasn't made anything yet. Suda51's Grasshopper is releasing Romeo is a Dead Man which looks like UE5 particle slop. Not a good track record so far. Obviously, Tencent is different, but I can't see anything being different honestly. If Itsuno releases his product and it's shit, I bet people will moan that he didn't have enough budget or something.

>>719099069
>I'm actually hopeful he will create something that doesn't look like re engine dog shit now he's left with the most important artists at capcom
then you're not who I'm talking about

>>719080661 (OP)
DD1 was fucking dogshit when it came out. Imagine designing greatsword that can't cancel recovery animations.
Kinoshita was always the guy.

>>719099089
No game is made by a single person.

>>719099151
You're talking to people calling him a hack, they aren't calling him a hack because they are angry he left capcom, they are shitting on his games.

>>719099305
yeah yeah he made two games that weren't as good as the rest of his work and now we're at "umm ackshually he was never good"

>>719099069
>>719099089
Yeah im cautiously optimistic and hope he proves it was crapcom holding them back, the budget excuse doesn’t matter because they shouldn’t be focusing on making "AAA" game anyway they should make a nice looking fun to play game like they used to make

>>719098224
Literally this level of copium holy shit >>719081305

I'm not saying Itsuno isn't at fault for DD2 but I dunno how people can defend Capcom. Like, ever.

>>719099232
Of course, but they're still a major factor in how a product will turn out.

>>719098224
>pragmata
looks like resident evil gameplay with a different skin

>>719090601
Slavjank DMC could be cringekino
I just hope they don’t give it to a faggy American studio again

Didn't they rush DD1 and DMC4 as well? Seems like Capcom had a habit of doing that with stuff Itsuno was working on, can't say I'm surprised he left.

Capcom is on top the industry. Other devs need to try harder. Simple as.

>>719099529
why do sensitive retards here think it's impossible to shit on itsuno and dislike capcom at the same time?
this gay little thread just feels like it's forced shitposting on capcom and you're forced to take sides to defend shitsuno

>>719080661 (OP)
will his vision become reality?

>>719099795
I dunno, why do underage retards think that all good games a developer made disappear when they make worse ones?

>>719099791
how are they on top
game quality? nope
profit? nope
number of releases? nope
keeping talent? fuck no

What disappoints me the most about DD2 is how hard it fucks up with its story and characters. They had a fucking decade to come up with interesting concepts, and ended up creating something so painfully bland.

>>719081215
You shouldn't be excited, Chinese owned

>>719099445
You have a very short memory, auto modelista, DMC 4 and dragons dogma 1 are all 7/10 games with unrealised potential. This is the nature of the majority of his games from the very beginning.

>>719099884
when's the last time he made a good game?

>>719097818
You're a third worlder who is at most in his mid 20s.

>>719099795
>I'm not saying Itsuno isn't at fault
>you're taking his side!
Not sure why you replied like this if you're not one of the people defending Capcom but alright.

>>719099971
DMC5

>>719096451
You forgot Yooka-Laylee, and I'm sure there's more.

>>719099945
ah yes I recall we established that games have to be 9/10 to be considered good

>>719080661 (OP)
>Triple A
>original IP

>>719100030
>Not sure why you replied like this
because retards here called me a shill despite not even mentioning capcom at all for that matter

>>719080661 (OP)
isn't this guy responsible for Dogshit Dogma 2?
tell me how he's not gonna be the next inafune
even kamiya gave up on platinum and came running back
all he's managed to grab so far are a bunch of designers, where's the real talent?

>>719097449
>no Capcom (((consultants)))
>no rushed deadlines because of year end reports
Seems good to me.

>>719100186
Eh, maybe you just need to stop being so sensitive about people shitting on Capcom.

>>719100280
lol good job proving me retard

>>719097623
>he gets lost in pointless features and details.
This doesn't apply to DD at all. The only problem was that there wasn't more of it.

>>719100315
>proving me retard
Yep

>>719100315
I think you've done that yourself.

>thread devolved into skub vs anti-skub fags

I'll just wait a few years to see what his game is like before making any assumptions.

>>719100376
You're talking to Dunning and Kruger's favored son. He hasn't played these games, he has no idea what he's talking about, he just knows he's supposed to shit on them with his fellow drones.

>>719085776
>>719085920
Chigyus won!

>>719100461
Anyone with a brain is doing that.

>>719100169
yooka layle was extremely consistent with their other releases
the trend every game after banjo kazooie was worse due to more backtracking and bigger emptier worlds
the cars in nuts and bolts? many think that was forced by executives, or proof that it was a different game that got reskinned into banjo
the truth was actually that rare was building a bigger world than ever because they're retarded and they keep doing that, and they realized "boy these levels are kinda boring and it takes forever getting anywhere... let's add vehicles!"
they delivered exactly what they usually do
they even put out a poll for yooka laylee asking people if they wanted a bigger world or a denser world
you can guess what retards picked

>>719083904
Dimps was behind SF4 and SC6
The former ""OG"" fighting game fans hail as the greatest modern SF
The latter people say is a return to form for the series

>>719100397
you are mentally ill
i started with my first post in this thread >>719096451 talking about retards worshipping idols and citing multiple examples across the industry until some faggot retard called me a capcom shill out of nowhere because i wasn't following his shitsuno dick sucking protocol
neck yourself troon

>contrarian the thread
yikes.

>>719100720
Shitting on Crapcom isn't being contrarian, Muhammed.

>>719100665
Nobody cares who you are. Calm down.

>>719099921
this
>>719099461
and this
i hope he gets good writers and uses a creative stylish artstyle instead of killing himself with ugly half baked AAA visuals like suda is right now with romeo is a deadman
please dont be stupid itsuno
work with the money and scope you can achieve realistically

>>719096669
Nah, it was before that.
It was them trying to chase after Automata's massive success while failing to realize that Automata was simply lightning in a bottle moment.
It led them to think they were a big boy dev that could do big boy projects and prospects. It led them to make stupid decisions like making a live-service game for Squeenix, and a dead Apple Arcade game that I'm sure you can't even play anymore. It led them to acquire The Wonderful 101 IP from Nintendo and then completely bungle the rerelease of the remaster.
Project GG was fucked from the get-go. And then Baldy leaving unofficially confirmed it's never coming out.

After Capcom's last few releases it honestly seems like he's got a much better chance at making a good game now that he's left the company. I dunno how people are looking at shit like MHWilds and SF6 and thinking "yeah, Capcom's where the talent is."

>>719098224
>why are people dooming
Chinese company. It's a pretty big red flag.

>>719100776
>everyone I disagree with is brown

>>719089465
lmao ignorant fucking comment
if you actually trace history from the beginning of game dev in japan, you'll see more talent revolving doors than not

>>719095774
If I die the world disappears

>>719100776
The irony

>>719098224
>capcom has pragmata
Look at the director.

>>719080661 (OP)
If it were to be Japanese studio then yes, but since it is Chinese subsidiary owned by Tencent, then if anything, we are fucked. It's a night and day difference to be owned by Tencent somewhere else, but China.

>>719081048
After DD2 I find it hard to trust Itsuno at his word, only time will tell if it was capcom holding him back all this time or if he just squandered all of the resources he had given to him.

>>719096451
Half of the games on that list turned out fine though, they were just rough around the edges since the producer didn't have enough pushback during development or they underestimated costs. Putting MN9 and Calisto on the same list as Death stranding and Bloodstained only makes you look like you haven't played any of them.

>>719101052
Yes.

>>719101157
I'm still on team wait-and-see but this is certainly a yellow flag.

>>719101180
putting death stranding on the side of supposedly good games tells me everything i need to know about you

>>719099945
DD is a 9.9/10

>>719101339
congratulations!

>>719089305
Lol

>>719100376
retards here already forgot shitsuno spent so much time marketing the ultra advanced AI in DD2 that will fight each other randomly
anybody else remember dragonsplague?

I just hope it will be a Dragons Dogma like game, after that im fine with new DMC stuff

>>719101157
how is it any different than Japanese devs working with Microsoft
right now China is where the investors are and Tencent has more money than they know what to do with
at the very least I don't remember them cancelling any high profile games

>>719080661 (OP)
Don't care what worthless slop they will make I just want Capcom to die

>>719098046
>Kid Icarus
>Reboot
That IP went dormant again the moment he finished working on Uprising, Nintendo was handed a good evolution on the Starfox formula but they did fuckall with it even though it sold extremely well for what was essentially a dead and buried IP.

It's pretty much the only game out of the entire 3DS library that makes me keep a 3DS emulator installed since every other "exclusive" got better versions released later on or were extremely mediocre.

>>719080661 (OP)
why don't you start with a smaller budget instead of betting it on all or nothing

>>719081305
>look mom I posted it again
then again your mom probably abandoned you after seeing how much of a faggot you are

>>719102161
they literally hired him to make AAA retard

>>719101783
Because Chinese companies need to follow agenda silly. Tencent investing outside China is just business. Tencent having subsidiary in China means they need to follow CCP rules.

>>719096626
>two of them are good
>two of them are meh
which one?

>>719102242
I hope Itsuno sees this, sis, DLC soon!

>>719101339
Death Stranding was just dull, not straight up unplayable garbage like MN9 and Calisto.

>>719080661 (OP)
imagine if he fumbles the Dragon's Dogma concept AGAIN lmao

>>719102329
I hope your mom never have to see how much of a faggot you are

>>719096451
>>bloodstained
>>the evil within
>>death stranding
>>lost odyssey
those are all good/decent

>>719096451
>>bloodstained
This is a successful franchise by now. And acclaimed among both critics and fans.

>>719102483
>>719102536

>>719102301
If it wasn't CCP it would be DEI woke liberalism slop. At least the chinks let you have sexy women.

>>719102483
>>719102536
>>719102625

>>719090287
>Sf5 actually looks better
5 looks like plastic and the eyes have no soul, 6 is still ugly but a little better, even 4 is ugly as shit, last truly beautiful SF was 3.

>>719102498
You tell him xis

>>719102161
Why? He has experience directing AAA games.

Never cared for DD, never understood why it was so liked here, but I'm sad to see him ago, don't know how the next (if there will ever a new one) is going to tuen out without his direction

>>719102625
aww man I wanna be the gladiator

>>719102793
>the next
meant the next dmc

>>719080661 (OP)
Why is Capcom dragging their feet on everything?
>No updates for DD2.
>MHWs was rushed and receiving less content than World.
>SF6 has virtually no updates aside from shitty create-a-character outfits, stickers, etc. with only four characters releasing in the span of a year and minuscule patches/adjustments only dropping every 8-10 months.

Are they really just talent drained? Are they just spread too thin? Are they really pouring all their resources into shit nobody wants again?
Who the fuck wanted an Onimusha remake? Also Pragmata has taken forever and looks like another boring derivative that will likely flop just like Exoprimal.
What is Capcom doing?

>>719080661 (OP)
WolfEye or this? Place your bet, anons.
WolfEye's (Raphael Colantonio's studio) game is in closed beta btw.

>all the other veteran studios
Maybe the one made up of ex DICE devs is promising? They're all either mid or gay tbqdesu.

>>719102306
Death Stranding and Evil Within

>>719096983
Not anime enough for old school otaku like me.

>>719090468
Slime rush makes SF6 difficult to play
SF5 is impossible to play

>>719103095
>ex Arkane
>ex DICE
these accolades don't exactly fill me with confidence

>>719102756
5 > 6

>>719096451
Forgot Mindseye, Stormgate and Dangerous Driving.

>>719080661 (OP)
Good, fuck Capcom, they went full USA.

>>719097224
>Igavania even close to SotN.
how people chill SotN so much? they only played SotN, the audio/visual is godtier but the game is so fuckin easy it get really boring halfway.

>>719080661 (OP)
>>719081215
This shit almost never works out. Kojima and Kamiya are the only one who pulled it off successfully.

>>719102279
oh god its so over
hes only done dmc3, 4 and dd2
i dont have faith in him to deliver a proper AAA success
i doubt the team is big enough and game dev these takes a long time just because of the standards asked of AAA
canceled or flop call it

>>719103447
because they think they're supposed to. sotn is the famous one.

>>719103095
Wolfeye didn't take any artists with it and they were the most important people at arkane, now his games look like shit. Itsuno was smart to take all his favourite artists with him

>>719103649
>hes only done dmc3, 4 and dd2
no

>>719097224
I've played a few Igavanias and they all seem like the same shit to me - two good games mixed together to make a mediocre subgenre.

>>719103715
>now his games look like shit.
thought the art in Weird West looked alright even if the graphics were shit

>>719085291
that's always been mikami's approach

>>719096451
So, 4 fine games and 3 craps

>>719088236
Torchlight, Wasteland 2, Arcanum.

why are people saying pragmata will flop when RE is thriving with average writing and gameplay?
normies will eat up pragmaga also because it looks pretty

>>719087253
is blue dragon worth playing?

I have no illusions that his new game will be spectacular - but there is literally not a single game I have played that he was attached to that I didn't enjoy a great deal.

I like Itsuno and the people he gets around him on games.

>>719080661 (OP)
ikeno didn't do character design on DD

Hope it's good. Itsuno makes god-tier action games so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

>>719103715
The main man was Viktor Antonov, who's known for his work on Half Life 2, and he died this year. The Arkane games he didn't work on didn't look all that great, so I don't think WolfEye missed anyone.

>>719104510
No he wasn't, he wasn't even art director though wolfeye didn't try to secure him either. There were other stellar artists like peleng and Piotr jablonski who remained at arkane.

>>719081305
>DMC2
>DMC4
>DMC5
>DD1
>DD2
is itsuno's repuation really just built on DMC3?

>>719102836
I don't care about MH
simple as

>>719104729
He was the lead designer of dishonored and he made all of the Sokolov paintings. I'm not sure who those other guys are.
>they didn't try to secure him either
Well, considering whatever he was afflicted with killed him in his 50's, I doubt he was in a condition to join then. I'm pretty sure his credits end with Prey.

>>719105238
He was one of a team and wasn't the art director like he was on halflife. He already left before Dishonored 2 and the second game also had great art. The point is there were many options for wolfeye to chose from and they didn't take the right people so now their games are ugly.

You haven't heard of them because you aren't paying attention and thought everything was done by Viktor Antonov because he's the meme guy who did halflife.

>>719105117
Yeah isn't it kind of insane /v/ worshiped him all this time and that's all he's put out?

>>719105117
It's built on e-celebs like suber best friends sucking his dick. His profile is completely out of step with his actual output.

>>719105117
uh, Rival Schools? Fuckin' POWER STONE?
You a fag or something?

>>719106037
Nobody sucking his dick is asking for a fighting game from him, they are all casuals who want babies first darksouls or the training dummy simulator.

>>719106037
who and literally who?

>>719106037
those don't count, they were made before I was born!

>>719105117
DMC3, DMC5, and DD are all great games and you can easily make an argument for any of them being some of the best action games of all time. Rival Schools and Power Stone are good fighters as well (makes sense only fightan devs know how to make fun action games).

>>719106165
itsunos background in fighting games is WHY dmc became so combat focused, rival schools is literally a game about launching a guy 30 feet into the air and doing an extended air combo by figuring out how to sting together moves without falling out of sync with the enemy

>>719102069
best post ITT

>>719106359
>DD
>great game
>best action games of all time
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA

>>719088871
DD1 was already dogshit

>>719106658
exactly, DD2 didn't suddenly destroy his reputation, it was more like people were willing to forgive 1 as being capcom's fault and 2 was the chance for Itsuno to prove himself

>>719106764
After MHWilds I'm still on the side of it being Capcom's fault.

Itsuno has made some of my favorite games so I trust the man. Them making a full fledged action title is interesting too. The real interesting thing will be DMC's future, likely remake purgatory.

>>719106451
I don't care why DMC is the way it is. I care that his only great games are fighting games and dmc 3 yet everyone is telling him to make more 3rd person action games. 90% of the ones he put out after dmc3 are shit.

>>719106887
can't disagree

>>719088735
Didn't ask?

>>719107016
>AHHHHH SOMEONE REPLIED TO ME
lol

>>719085920
It's 'veneers', no 'a' in there.

>>719080661 (OP)
Unless he's working with Tango and Mikami to make Hi-Fi Rush 2: Chai's Awakening, I don't give a fuck until we know the engine performs on hardware that shouldn't be beaten to shit by it.

>>719106914
I don't get why Capcom didn't immediately get them to start developing DMC6 or just a smaller side game after 5.

>>719097481
>If Nintendo wasn't asking him to make shit he would have retired already.

Anon you have no clue how much that man loves games and how well respected he is among the industry. It takes a shit ton of clout to get Disney, Square, and all the other 3rd parties represented to get them in line for Smash Bros. Compare this to Playstation Allstars where every 3rd party were laserfocused on getting their money bag from Sony and marketing their IP on the platform with little respect to helping making the game great.

>>719107243
>I don't get why Capcom (insert business decision here)
nobody does

>>719107243
Maybe he was bored of DMC. He never indicated any interest in anything after DD2 besides rival schools and cvs3.

>>719106764
>>719106887
>it was Itsuno's fault
>no, it was Capcom's fault!

>>719107243
tl;dr Itsuno was going to walk out and they let him make DMC5 and DD2, most of the DMC team followed him to DD2

Itsuno was one of their last senior devs so they realized they needed to keep him so newer devs can learn and so they can hire others as well. Itsuno always delivered with his games, at least from a business perspective, which helped too. When he threatened to walk out the suits gave into his demands, which were DMC5 and DD2. Quick side note, DMC4SE only existed because Capcom felt that the genre was done and Itsuno wanted to prove them wrong. So they let him make DMC5 and DD2 and 5 was a huge success. Most of the DMC team went with Itsuno to DD2. Covid happened which hurt development. It would have only been about a year before DD2's launch that some of the team could start early work on anything DMC. With how bloated game dev is now, a new DMC is still a year or two away if its even happening.

>>719107535
You're just saying he's well respected and likes consuming games. That is entirely separate from developing them which he literally complains about any chance he gets. The only reason he sticks around is he knows hes good at it and people still need him.

I hope he goes the full opposite of realistic graphics for his next game.

>>719080661 (OP)
They said that when whopee camp and platinum and whatever mikami's studio is spun off from crapcum. Where are they now? Dead and irrelevant.

>>719107551
He sort of implied that DMC5 would be his last, that the series is more for a younger director. He wanted DMC5 to make up for how the series was treated, to give it a proper bang instead of a whimper.

>>719103447
I've played all the metroidvania castlevanias, all the Metroid games, and more indie Metroidvanias than I can count. Igavanias suck and SotN is better than all of them.

>>719107907
Ditto, but "AAA" makes me think that won't be the case

>>719106590
>>DD
>>great game
>>best action games of all time
Correct

>>719096451
If Itsuno's next game is as good compared to DMC3/DD as Bloodstained is compared to Castlevania or The Evil Within to RE4, then I'm really excited for his next game. It's already definitely gonna be better than DD2.

>>719083447
>Pragmata is directed by a gook
Wow, all my excitement just dropped in a instance. What the fuck, who thought this was a good idea.

>>719108818
Capcom is hemorrhaging talent. Only the REmake team there is good.

>>719080661 (OP)
>Gouda Cheese
>illustrator for Street Fighter 2
Tis a real one.

>>719109217
how old is he

>>719109217
Bengus will probably work on the concept art and character design. Let's see if the new studio can make his art justice, we know that Crapcom couldn't.

>>719109512
almost 60 so not too bad

>>719082806
Tim Schafer and Lucas Arts.