Thread 719084875

Was he right?

>>719084875 (OP)
Thanks for reminding this existed and that there was once a time I found this genuinely funny.

>>719085274
I still like it. It's comfy.

>>719085834
Quite a few webcomics inspired by WoW came out during those years. This was one of the better ones.

>>719085965
Yeah, though it makes me nostalgic for UO and makes me wish MMOs with FFA PvP/PK were still around.

>>719084875 (OP)
How do you pronounce pwnzor?

This thread was made to make me feel old

>>719087139
Is it working?

>>719084875 (OP)
so.. does the author not realize that pks also have to deal with people who can actually fight, not just retarded sacks of loot wandering aimlessly around minoc?

>>719086791
>when ESL is right and EOLs are wrong, even when it's their own (and only) language
Happens all the time.

F A C K

>>719087796
>ESL fantasies that didn't ever happened

>>719086616
>makes me wish MMOs with FFA PvP/PK were still around
There are. But neither you nor anybody else wants to play them so they die. Turns out you are just posers.

>>719088123
like what, mortal online? the game that has no content besides having (sometimes literal) dickwaving contests between groups of forum retards?

>>719088123
I literally have to play Dark and Darker, Dungeonborne, Escape from Tarkov etc. and similar games which have FFA PK with looting, to get my fix. People just stopped making good MMOs, stopped trying to innovate, just copying each other like some incestuous snake eating its tail.
I don't just want "a game with FFA PVP" but a "GOOD game with FFA PVP".

>>719088356
>>719088293
Go play EVE.

>>719088387
>excel spreadsheet simulator

>>719088387
>I want a successor to Ultima Online
>go play EVE
It's really just funny to me that if I google "top MMOs" I see the exact same titles from 10-15 years ago. Pantheon and Crowfall promised something new but ended up being scams. This genre is really fossilized.

>>719088098
>that never* happened
No need to say "didn't ever," just say "never." A lot better.
t. ESL

>>719087624
Correct, because the author is one of those mindless sacks.

>>719088098
>didn't ever happened
Also, it should be "didn't ever happen," not "didn't ever happened.
t. ESL

>>719088695
That joke never gets old.

>>719088559
>>719088635
bamboozled

>>719084875 (OP)
I miss pwning n00bs.
Camping their bodies and receiving rage tells is the peak of the MMO gameplay.

>>719088695
>no slutty Lego Lass

>>719088507
Costs to make stuff ballooning out of control.
Digital 'playspace' already mostly owned by bi-yearly COD's, Fortnite, and then shit like Roblox and VRChat for user created content so your end user playercount's always going to be lower then desired.
On top of all of this MMO's have splintered off so hard where the only pitches investors will fund given the last two points are either 'online' single player experiences with a few multiplayer elements sprinkled in (FF14), or the entire focus has to be on some 'new' large open world gimmick.
MMO's as an entire concept got put out to pasture a long time ago, and what's left is chances are what's all that will be left for quite some time till the current big online gaming circles fuck off for elsewhere.

>>719088559
>>719088635
>ESL misses an obvious joke that any native speaker would catch
Now that really happens all the time.

Do MMOs nowadays even have GMs in the world acting like police or absolute twats?

>>719084875 (OP)
PK zones with enticing rewards is great. Like the wilderness in runescape.

>>719089171
I caught you, too late for excuses.

>>719089453
>Police
FFXIV
>Twats
FFXIV but they had to cull that shit back. One GM went on a crusade to ban RPers flooding the party finder with their venues on Crystal DC, the RP center of the game.

>>719084875 (OP)
>PK
MMO players always come up with the stupidest, worst sounding lingo. I'm glad I never got deep into any of that shit.

>>719089706
What should people say instead of "PK." It's very descriptive.

>>719089789
At least come up with a verb. PK sounds so artificial and immersion breaking.

Damn, i love the noob, it's like a classic sunday morning newspaper comic which is actually fairly unusual with webcomics

>>719090078
Everyone had bad taste when they were a teen.

>>719090085
PK is not a verb.

>>719090153
>You should try PK'in
Yeah OK retard.

>>719090085
>>719090153
And by "PK is not a verb" I mean PK refers to a character build. Describing builds with verbs seems artificial and immersion-breaking.

>>719088123
because the fatherless third world browns who make being a PvPer their entire personality make these games miserable to play, no one is going to pay or waste their time to not have fun so they go play games where their ability to have fun isn't controlled by the actual dregs of society

>>719084875 (OP)
PKing noobs is funny but the real fun is when PKers start fighting for territory and sometimes it escalates into huge wars like Venezuelans vs ROT

finally, a good thread

'Member this?

>>719089949
The guy with foxhat reminds me of Vernon Roche for some reason.

>>719086791
that was a good one. Kek

>>719087501
this ones good too

The more things change the more they stay the same.

Isn't the artist a hot chick

>>719093867
you might be thinking of gone with the blastwave

>>719093867
Gianna Masetti, she stopped doing the comic when she got ass cancer
Can't remember if there were ever any pics of her

>>719093867
Chicks can't draw funny comics. They have something in their brain that prevents drawing funny-looking characters. You can also see this in comedy.

>>719094228
>Chicks can't draw funny comics.
Only hot chicks. Ugly ones who got treated like men while growing up can do it.

>>719094228
We all know one funny comic drawn by a chick
>>719094351
Yeah she is ugly

>>719094228
But oglaf is drawn by a chick

>>719094351
>Homer Simpson voice
Ugly chicks, eh...?

>>719089706
PK is a term older than you zoomie.

>>719094418
>HAHA THE JOKE IS SEX: the comic
Yep, just like female comedians

>>719094403
Last time I posted "that" of this artist I got a 3 day

>>719087624
>tfw in classic TBC, at the end of the expansion, on my moderately geared (pve) hunter alt,
>while i was doing dailies on the isle of quel danas, there was a notorious rogue ganker (pvp server, 60-40 horde-alliance)
>human rogue has both warglaives, one of the only people on server with them.
>i was finished up and traveling back
>he saps me, just toying with me
>i drop a freezing trap in a spot i suspect he'll move over
>he falls for it
>i slowly stroll away 30yards
>mark him up, 10% health left by the time hes even in my range
>raptor strike melee kill him

god that felt good. Dumpstering a fucking warglaives rogue. Man i miss that place, classic wow on a pvp server thats mostly balanced, and not an overpopulated megaserver, is one of the more kino gaming experiences you can ever have. Yojamba Forever ;_; shame wows dead now.

>>719088123
Name them. The last one was Shadowbane.
>>719088387
>EVE
I did, it's dead. The good times are long past after the power players were forced out.

>>719086739
pone-zor

>>719084875 (OP)
He was. PKing brought excitement to mmos. I remember some of the best interactions was me and a friend forming a gank squad specifically to hunt down other gank squads. So we would wait for them to jump some newbie, and then we would fuck up the PKers because they were now marked.

>>719094458
You couldn't be more wrong and that's funny to me.

>>719089684
>One GM went on a crusade to ban RPers
Wait, why would you try to ban your primary audience?

>>719090243
>I mean PK refers to a character build.
Nope. PK refers to an action. Player killing. And a PK-er is a player killer. Nothing about PK is a build descriptor.

>>719094960
I never understood why things like this could be a bannable offense, like safespotting in gadgetzan in wow. The devs literally have control over the game, why can't they just change the geometry and make it so the player can't go there?

>>719095096
That's the zoomer meaning. Originally it referred to Pure Kill, characters who ignored non-combat skills and focused solely on combat skills for max PvP efficiency. But a lot of people mistook it for player killing and the term lost its meaning because people kept using it incorrectly.

>>719084875 (OP)
PvP servers are a joke because one side will eventually decimate the other and the losing side will their quit, or faction change to join the winning side. It always ends up lopsided and is a waste of everyone's time.

>>719095246
Because banning your ass is easier for the devs than actually fixing problems. Especially for Blizzard devs who have no morals anyway, so it's not like their conscience would bother them.

>>719095380
>That's the zoomer meaning.
Look dude, I'm not gonna pretend I know how PK was used in 1999-2000 but no fucking "zoomer" was playing MMOs in 2004 when PK was used as Player Killer. Stop misusing terms.

>>719095532
Actually, I worked at Blizzard for 7 years and we used to put rocks in the paths of bots

>>719095471
faction queues + server pop queues to keep them from turning into megaservers were always the answer, but that'd require actually policing bots so you don't get cucked by Chang and his 500-man bot army.

Relatively balanced pvp servers was always possible, and it existed from classic until early wrath on the Oceanic servers. And it was kino.

>>719095006
He wasn't banning RPers themselves just ones using the PF to advertise their venues or events. While they weren't wrong technically since the PF is for setting up parties for doing content, RPers found a use for it to get more eyes on their stuff. But I guess the GM had a sitck up their ass about that and started warning and temp banning RPers who were using it that way and with XIV warnings and bans are permanent marks on your account.

>>719095732
thoughts? i always thought solving botting was a fairly easy thing, you just need staff to be policing it. I could easily have kept the entirety of Oceanic servers bot-free by myself for the most part if i was given GM powers and paid to do it.

>>719095709
Well, I was there and that's how PK was used. It had a technical meaning, that's why it was used in the first place and not just "PvP." Similarly, "banger" had a technical meaning in a sense it referred to music that made you bang your head, like fast punk or metal, but now zoomers use it to refer to any music they like, thus losing its technical meaning. At 2004 people didn't know what PK originally meant, they just thought it meant PvP in general when it specifically meant PvP-focused characters.

I remember this comic because it was linked on the official page of a MMORPG in development I was watching. Uhh.. Darkfall or something maybe?
I ended up completely forgetting about that game.

>>719095976
I remember being excited for darkfall, I think I ended up playing it for maybe 10 minutes before quitting

>>719095976
I remember waiting years for it and just moving on with my life by the time it released.
I did discover 3 different webcomics through it though, this one, Looking For Group and some other I don't remember the name of.

>>719096051
Yeah, I ended up losing interest and never trying it. I liked the stuff they were promising early on but it wasn't going to materialize unfortunately.

>>719096838
It really do be like that.

>>719093309
The deepest nostaligia for me is the tshirt on 14

>>719097768
Imagine rape jokes in 2025.
Never forget Dickwolfgate.

>>719086616
old school runescape bro. just make a pvp locked account.

>>719097768
Oh shit, I want to see the ones making fun of roleplayers. I remember seeing these before, but I can't recall if this webcomic stopped before I stopped reading.

>>719097838
Lmao, the last panel

>>719089891
at 12yo, I thought undead where THE shit
now that I am grown up, I understand that playable undead were too based for this world

>>719097838
reminds me of the four yorkshiremen

>>719084875 (OP)
>yet another webcomic that was never finished

>>719093724
it's just the worst job that nobody with a brain wants to do. I was tricked into playing healer in two different games, and both times I wanted to do something else, but it just so happened that everyone just wanted to invite my class for the healing spells. I quit mmos forever after those experiences, fuck healing.

>>719099037
b-but muh holy trinity...

>>719090153
How is the shortened form of "player kill" not a verb. Kill is a verb, so PK is a verb. Simple as that.

>>719099224
You'e thinking of player-kill. Player kill is a noun

>>719098862
>yet another webcomic that was never finished
I'm still waiting to learn what's on top of that pillar.

>>719088123
it's hilarious how salty PVPfags get when they're forced to craft their own weapons
albion online is a huge eye opener, all the people who actually wanted to click rocks and make swords left because it was too hard to get anything done and you needed to suck guild cock just to have the ability to get high grade materials without being ganked as the maps are watched 24/7, maybe it's changed but the amount of pvpfags that were upset because they were forced into crafting was fucking funny

pvp people drive away the pve crowd and then complain that all they can find in the wilderness is other gank squads from other guilds

>>719084875 (OP)
IS THAT A FUCKING PKER?

>IRC
Now THAT'S a blast from the past.

>>719100609
IT'S HASEO! THE PKK!

>>719086791
>when someone calls you an ESL on /v/

>>719089171
>that any native speaker would catch
No, these other anons are just legit autists

t. another ESL who got it and wanted to reply with an "oh you :3" but now can't anymore

>>719090078
I have been chuckling throughout. Sorry you can only understand skibidi boop unc humor

>>719100624
idgi

>>719094418
But it's written by a man

>>719103056
>custom ringtones as a paid product
wow that's a blast from the past

>>719102000
I want to say that this is a classic, but me and the boys still run into this exact scenario to this day.

>>719087930
fethers

>>719089171
Always take them at face value. I have no time for retards.

>>719103736
that's why it's a classic

>>719095380
I was there 20 years ago, and nobody used it as pure kill. Ever. It was player kill ever since I started playing shit like anarchy online, ragnarok online, or chinese p2w mmos. It was always player kill. If you got tricked into believing there is some other meaning that makes no sense, good on whoever managed to convince you off it.

>>719093309
You could use this to categorize extinction, how many of these actually exist here anymore?

>>719107248
Piratefags are endangered since zoomers don't know how or think it's wrong
The Casualfag mutated into Shitterfags who actually are fine with games dumbing down their mechanics
Gachafags are some weird mutation of Roneryfags hiding behind their dailies as a shield to say they play games
The Girl Gamers were beaten behind a Sephora and all became Gamer Girls or feminists and the Gamer Girls all became OF Gamer thots
Tourneyfags Collectorfags and RPfags may be the only ones who are actually dead.

>>719093309
piratefags are dead and jrpgfags are still playing the same persona games, but the remake versions

>>719093560
videogames have changed....

>>719093560
>Oblivion in the shelves
Man, not like this

>>719087624
as if those cowards don't flee

>>719090078
You had to have be there to understand.

>>719088470
>I've never played the game, so I'll parrot a third hand memes I've heard from a redditor

>>719087501
for me it's the Spider-Man edits

>>719111814
To be fair to that anon, I've only ever met 2 people who play EVE and both of them are accountants. Not saying that's all of them, but I wouldn't be surprised if that type's common. 2 nickels and all that.

>>719107248
Like 4 don't exist in that exact form but at least 2 have just mutated (into something worse, obviously).

>>719086791
If a piece of equipment on the market is called "goggles," god help you.

>>719094026
Kimmo is a woman's name?

>>719097293
I misread that rightmost balloon in the second panel. Thank you, 4chan.

In the first panel. Turns out I'm also too tired to notice that it's a wide one after most of the rest being regular.

>>719116657
>rightmost balloon in the second panel
Anon...

>>719090378
lmao you always got an excuse ready, dont you

>>719116910
It do be like that.

>>719098523
>where
>I am grown up
I'm guessing you're 13 now?

>>719090078
It was a time when it was amazing to see another human merely mention the same things you were into

>>719093309
>you say the NES was your first? You kids are young
Isn't that comic like 15 years old now? He was absolutely right at the time

>>719117476
It's still nice but only when they're not cripplingly mentally ill or some variety of aggressive loud uncultured hominid from the late adopters of Internet usage. So rarer than before.

>>719117946
a LOT fucking rarer

>>719093309
the WRPG fan is now a fat, raging faggot because thats all that WRPGs market towards.
Also there was never women on /v/, ever.

>>719095880
NTA but the main issue is that there's a lot of things that can be done to catch bots but aren't scalable. Getting enough telemetry to track player movement with the fidelity required to detect speedhacks/teleportation doesn't work when you're monitoring every second of every player. It's also a race against time to ban the bot before they can do damage to the economy/offload their loot, but without being so hypersensitive that you're banning real players.

It's easier to sculpt the game in a way that rewards botting less than it is to stop groups with infinite free time and more people than there are staff on the game from finding ways to overwhelm the ban appeal queue or manual investigations. There's also the fact that bots aren't intrinsically harmful to a game; a lot of games suffer from lack of fluidity in their midgame content as players are either new or at endgame, so having bots that farm materials for the entire economy and keep resources available can help the game function once the playerbase distribution is lopsided.

>>719094460
To be frank writing those descriptons are pita. Thankfully we have chatgpt now