Thread 719086602

Do you find video game remakes insulting because it's taking a game you thought played just fine and tries to reinvent it for an audience that doesn't share your values?

I find it insulting because they never remake games that actually need it

>>719086602 (OP)
game Devs usually have a deadline and are more enthusiastic than the budget & time constraint, so it never gets realized; & then the remake, which is usually only done for games that made profit, make absolutely no effort to implement those ideas & ambitions

but i cant say for sure what it is for sure what those ambitions were, because that's what the remake was for? i guess?

>>719086602 (OP)
No, I feel insulted because they made a shitty version and they expect me to buy it again

>>719086602 (OP)
My "values"? Regarding... graphics?

>>719086876
This.
Why remake a perfectly fine game when the effort is better used on a game that could use a revamp?

>>719086602 (OP)
They're insulting because they are already lazy just by nature of being a remake, then on top of that they are almost always less ambitious in terms of mechanics, gameplay, side content, and total time than their predecessor aka "soul" because modern devs are lazier and less competent in general.
If they add in woke shit, change character personalities and delete stuff to be less offensive then they are just doubling down on being garbage.

>>719087904
But I like Tomb Raider Anniversary more than Tomb Raider.

Yes, case and point Dead Space. Absolute 11/10 especially nowadays in 4k.

And now dumb gender neutral toilets. I bet they even removed the titty mgazines.

>>719086602 (OP)
i find them insulting because they're in line with this ongoing trend of remastering and remaking everything instead of making new things

>>719086602 (OP)
Most games should just be fixed to work on modern systems
Though normies are retarded and won't play "old" games that are just fine so I get it.

>>719088386
The game industry doesn't want you playing games that came out before the current year.

remakes/remasters are quick cash grab scam

I only hate it when its in UE5. Looks like shit, runs like shit, etc etc etc. Any dev that uses UE5 should be executed unironically.

>>719088884
A lot of gen 7 games are heavily constrained by performance overhead brought on by the consoles they were released on.

>implying anything from gen 7 onwards is worth salvaging

>"Ahh shit, aah fuck. We are metaphysically incapable of coming up with novel or interesting game concepts that isn't blindly following trends, our only choice is to remake one of our titles because the blueprint is right there"
I will give it to /lit/, at least books don't get remakes.
Right? Censorship not included.

The only right way to do a video game remake is to substantially change it. If you try to make something that is "true to the original", you're always going to fall short. There will always be things people prefer about the actual original. Make it something new.
>>719089340
Great example, actually - there are novels which are retellings of famous stories but from the perspective of another character, giving us insight that was lacking in the original. It is inevitably a work of interpretation that engages with the original and requires creative input from the new author, even if it is "the same story". That way, the remake adds to the original, instead of being a pale imitation that attempts and fails to replace it.

It has passed more time from the first remake to now then it did from the firt game to the remake.
There are big visual changes, but the re-release can come out again and it looks fine because nothing has evolved since then.

>>719089340
Actually they do but they tend to be reimaginings rather than remakes (typically because something went public domain and then "lol this would be funny" shitters think it'd be humorous to just inject zombies arbitrarily).

>>719086602 (OP)
Personally, they piss me off because they're blatant cash grabs. Publishers know that if they try to sell a port at full price they'll catch flak so they say 'remake' or 'remaster' to justify making the same product again. Then it's doubly insulting when the games they remake are not so outdated or outclassed that a remake would be warranted at all in the first place. It's pure greed, not that some team somewhere has a genuine vision for an old ip.

No, I just want new games.

>>719089487
Literature as a medium hasnt evolved its tools, music, painting, films, games... all of these have, although movies and games are so new that they still dont do aswell that aspect you talk about of new intepretations. Music and painting are much more in tune with that given how much older they are.
Gaming and film still thinks that it has to do the same but with the better tech, and then given the way things are created and sold there is an effort of supressing the original in a way that isnt as common in other art forms. There is this idea of the new one becoming the definitive version

>>719089487
>>719089594
>but they tend to be reimaginings rather than remakes
Did you forget the Great Rebooting of late 2000s/early 2010s?
Games already went through that phase, and as shit as it was, at least it took some creativity.

An example of a "remake" is a stuff like earlier Hobbit releases having some differences from LOTR, so later releases got changed to bring them inline with each other, something like that.

>>719089863
>Literature as a medium hasnt evolved

I guess that's true. Writing is just writing - now and forever. There are ways to make it more efficient (typing) and faster to reproduce (printing press) but at the end of the day it's just going to be words on paper.

>>719086602 (OP)
Its insulting to take a beautiful game, make it ugly, then pretend your new ugly version is better

>>719086602 (OP)
I'm too much bothered to be mad about things I don't necessarily like.

>>719092493
I didn't say you had to be angry about it.