Thread 719108760

it's fucking over

>>719108760 (OP)
why force people to use AI?

>>719110226
M$ spent shit tons of money on AI.

lol

>>719110342
the eternal jeet strikes again

>>719110342
if it was efficient or worth a shit, you wouldn't have to force people to use it. people would WANT to use it. this is so ass backwards it hurts. literal 'why not take away their shovels and give them spoons?' tier retardation

>>719108760 (OP)
>>719110226
>>719110342
>a company that sells a certain technology has to force their own employees to use it
How is this not the most obvious bubble?

>>719110226
Microsoft has spent more money on ai than all the studios they bought out so they REALLY need to use it

>>719110921
They're either in too deep or Satya is a true believer.

meanwhile the proles will be asked to take showers every other day (https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20240423-theres-no-need-to-shower-every-day-heres-why) and set their thermostats to 84 degrees at night in the summer (the DOE changed this recommendation to "as high as you can stand" after outcry)

Get with the times, everyone's using ai now

reminder: being anti AI is akin to being pro-woke, anti-trump, and anti america. if you dont like AI you're pretty much trans

Why does it take more than five guys to make Candy Crush?

>>719110226
Sunk cost fallacy, quite literally.
They spent trillions on this thing that is barely even good for porn after two decades, techbros are still in denial about the bubble being ready to burst

>>719110226
I work for an IT company and they're pressuring us too, because the higher ups are convinced that everything will be developed at least 20% faster, despite this being utter bullshit

>>719110342
>open up aislop program
>type sneed
>let it run
Problem, upper management?

>>719110226
Investors have spent a lot of money on this shit and their foot is tapping harder every passing second waiting for an actual return on it

>>719111378
You actually dont need to fucking shower every day, you retard. What the fuck? Unless you're some sweaty fuck who needs showers daily.

>>719108760 (OP)
>must use AI daily
on what? like, if you know what you're doing, what could you possibly use AI for?

>>719113178
if you had friends they'd tell you you smell bad

>>719113091
They fell for NFTs and quintuple dipped on AI.

>>719113263
That's the baffling part to me. Who the fuck uses it that much besides coomers?

>>719113265
Again, thats probably just you, bud. You might have some extreme body odor fungus or oil secretion or you're probably Indian. If you spend the day not doing anything physically intensive AND change your clothes there's no problem.

>>719110226
Most people are idiots and make stupid mistakes

>but ai makes mistakes too
But it doesnt make stupid people mistakes.

>>719113494
what noise. stop talking to me and go see how many coins you can stick to your greasy forehead

>>719108760 (OP)
Because ai is better but they have no understanding that they don't have a workforce trained to use the tools correctly

It's literally the modern version of strapping Bob Ross into a computer chair and giving him the Adobe creative suite

>>719110226
>>719113091
Protip: This is also why nearly every board with activity on this very site has multiple threads and posts glazing "ai" shit every single day, and I don't just mean the generals that are allowed on otherwise-general-disallowing boards.

>>719110226
Microsoft are convinced that AI is the ultimate efficiency tool. Telling them you don't want to use AI to program is like telling them you don't want to use your calculator to do math. Except in reality it's more like telling them that you don't want to drive to grandma's house with a retarded backseat driver that's constantly telling you to take shortcuts that don't make sense and recreating a copilot folder you don't want in the root of your onedrive.

>King
>Creators of a Bejeweled clone
>Expected to use AI Daily
I... what.

>>719110226
Because it's a criminally underutilized productivity boost. At the multinational company I work at I'm leading the development side for automation and more recently AI initiatives within the company and the processes and assistants/agents we develop are already saving thousands of work hours every week across different departments.
The problem is /v/ is full of neet losers that think AI means generating images and that's its entire utility, but AI's language processing is very robust and extremely easy to integrate with existing applications, meaning I can for example hook a trained model to a HR inbox and peocess thousands of mails written in natural language about a relatively wide variety of topics very accurately in seconds, and HR people get a dashboard where they just verify documentation that the AI has cross-referenced in 6 different legacy systems and the human just approves that the AI's response is correct.

>>719114128
I genuinely don't understand what they'd even use it on since their development cycle is pretty fucking low these days. I doubt the majority of their mobile games, at least the ones that still active, even receive regular content updates.

>>719114265
You can entice people to do that without mandating that they have to use it.

>>719110226
Indian CEO

>>719108760 (OP)
If the tech is so good why do they need to force them? You'd think employees would kill to use it if it made everything so easy and effortless

>>719110226
Candy Crush would be one of the earliest games an AI machine could generate front to back. Maybe even before Tetris and Ping/Pong.

>>719108760 (OP)
AI is such a piece of shit tech and I don't see it getting much better. It's useful for simple shit but I may as well do that myself. I tried having it assist me with building an application but it kept going around in circles for more complex shit.
It was a lot faster to just read some documentation and figure it out myself.

Stupid fucking clanker.

>>719108760 (OP)
kek, all Windows 12 is gonna be AI clusterfucked.

>>719114265
Congratulations on setting up an autotranslator I guess?

>>719110226
Same reason they forced people back to the office even though most work can be done more efficiently in remote. Niggers and sunk cost on Real Estate and city taxes.
Socialism for landlord pensioners, neoliberalism for the wage slaves.

>>719114265
TL: None of this is real. This is a marketer advertising fake benefits of a glorified cleverbot sequel so the startup he works for can fleece rich old men out of money.

>>719114858
Imagine AI+legacy code compatibility that has bloated windows already.

I really don't get how people will expect to make money off AI (outside of just mass layoffs for short term savings)
The current generation isn't interested in things made with AI
The future generation will simply use the AI themselves to make things.
There's no market here. There is no sellable product outside of subscription services and with so many free AI tools, only retards actually pay for it.

>>719114265
see
>>719110847

why are millenials+ so delusional when it comes to AI
Zoomers are fine using it in their jobs

>>719115138
The same zoomers who don't know shit and complain about not being able to get hired?

>>719112981
Funny enough, I was watching a good interview on it. The problem is it hurts productivity because it makes enough errors for you to fix. Its easier to fix your own error than it is to fix the AI's, so you get the job of writing code and reviewing code. Starts at 21:20 if your interested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXvEJ_In1N4&ab_channel=ElPodcast

>>719108760 (OP)
Why cant CEO's and execs just fire everyone already and they make the fucking games already? If AI is gonna replace all these workers anyways and the only ones that stick around are the ones who sign the paychecks then let them work on the fucking games. I wanna skip to the end of this tale already and let these companies fucking die to their own hubris already

>>719115138
Gen Z here:
I find more trouble than its' worth sometimes. When doing something data related and small, sure, that's what AI (An extension of machine learning) is best at. It kinda sucks in long term projects and over nuanced data. It's cool tech, but the reliance on it from co-workers has created some shit situations I had to clean up.

>>719115060
Pretty sure all the major players are trying to capture a vast majority of the market to later shift toward a paid/advertising model, exact same as a large number of tech companies have tried in the past two decades.

>AI is so awful but they invested so much in it
>now they're scrambling to find uses for it
>one of them being AI facial recognition in relation to age verification
Fuck them and fuck their AI bubble.

>>719110921
my neighbor works for a health insurance company and says they're forced to use AI
he said it's simple things like asking the customer name then telling the AI the customer name and waiting for it to search through the database for you and find their profile.
They could do it themselves, and have for many years, but now the CEO requires you to use the AI virtual assistant to pull up someone's profile and half the time it just doesn't work or takes forever to respond

>>719110226
My guess is they think if everyone learns how to use AI, everyone will become more effective to some degree, then they fire everyone who's below 50-60% increased effectiveness.

>>719114403
That I agree, I don't know if it's sensationalization by the workers/article writer. The way it works at my company is that all departments are being provided with extra budget that they have to allocate to automation initiatives, meaning the departments themselves take no financial risks since it's extra budget, plus department managers also get bonuses for successful implementations of these initiatives.
>>719115136
You vastly overestimate the technical knowledge of a 50 year old accountant. A lot of these people have no idea what AI can and cannot do, these are super normie people that can't figure out how to set their Out-of-office status in Outlook. We have to send some of our guys that are familiar with our automation and AI tools and sit with the department manager combing through hundreds of different tasks they do in the department to identify good candidates for automation. At least in my case, until we started these initiatives there wasn't even a "catalog" of what tasks people perform, in a big company all of this can be quite disorganized.

>>719115563
>like asking the customer name then telling the AI the customer name and waiting for it to search through the database for you and find their profile.
???
And thats supposed to save time versus just typing out a persons name and finding their profile??

>>719110226
investors
money doesnt matter anymore, just print more when you run out

>>719116169
database query would take less time and energy (as in electricity and heat)
my first few captchas are being auto-rejected now. I guess I made someone mad

>>719116258
>Line must go up despite each individual dollar being worth less and less and companies chasing short term gain fucking everything up in the long run.
I hate modern investors.

>>719115060
It's just the usual sillicon valley playbook:

>sell at loss to capture market
>eat up all your competitors
>become a middleman between customers and sellers
>once they're dependent on you, jack up the prices to the moon
>you're doing it on the internet so laws don't apply

Except their market this time is everything that is done on a computer, and with robotics is everything else too. They are in a mad race to become the one fundamental cornerstone of economic activity. The figurative air you breathe, and then they'll use the cash to buy up the actual air too.

>>719115842
It's a little bit different:

>have 10 workers doing a 10 units of work
>with AI, each worker can now do 5 units of work
>fire 9 workers, tell the last guy to do 10 units of work from now on
>also cut hit pay
>you're complaining? There's 9 other guys desperate for your job

>>719115931
Sounds like you have a halfway reasonable leadership. At my company, the non-technical managers put some poorly worded non-englisch questions into chatGPT, watch it produce some gibberish in 30 seconds(because it's can't do our niche technology well), and then are baffled why I takes longer than 30 seconds to implement the actual feature they need. Literally lost the abillity to comprehend that some things are difficult to do.
I don't even get a budget for AI and am still expected to use it. I've been told creating my own foundational model at home is "the least we can expect of a professional developer".

Every company is forcing AI whether you like it or not. Clankers don't call out sick. They don't ask for better wages or working conditions. They always do what they're told. Why wouldn't employers use it as much as they can get away with?

>>719113719
Lol yep you are 100% paying attention

>>719116436
actually it's more like
>have 10 workers doing 10 units of work
>with AI, each worker can still only do 1 unit of work except each unit of work is lower quality
>if a worker complains about AI making their work worse just fire them
>trick investors into thinking each worker can now do 5 units of work
>take the money and run before investors pull out all of their money after realizing how retarded this is

>>719110226
AI gets better the more its used so I assume Microsoft wanted to use them to train AI

>>719110282
Basically this, companies spend money on things they hope will work.
They dont, but they have massive buyers remorse and instead of doing the smart thing and getting a partial refund or stop going deeper into it.. They double and triple down on the money waste and pass the cost onto the customer.
Companies are like retarded children, if you don't tard wrangle them they will shit up the walls and draw everywhere.

>>719110226
Indian management. E=MC^2 + AI SAAAARRRR

>>719116749
I love the response to this "consultant" was a PHD holder going
>What.

>>719115003
>If I cry and make-up shit like a little punk-ass powerless bitch, I can change the reality of the situation!
Sorry, that's not how life works. You're welcome to seethe until you die about things changing in a way you don't like, though. No-one's gonna give a shit and your feelings don't matter, but you can do so, still.

>>719116732
The only way corporations can promise their investors infinite growth is to fuck their employees over. Cut benefits, cut hours, layoff half your workforce and force the leftovers to to double the workload, don't scale wages to inflation and cost of living. And then when employees have had enough, you replace them with H1B's and AI.

>>719116749
>>719116850
Close enough for a hive mind.

Shareholder primacy has been a disaster for the current economic system.

>>719112478
What a big eared freerf.

>>719114265
>only example is a worthless email job that isn't productive in the first place

>>719117045
>Huxley plan
It's been a while since I read Brave New World, I should do so again.

>>719110226
Why force players to play as a black female woman?

>>719116995
Is there a way to overturn Dodge V Ford? I work in healthcare and every day we have to sacrifice patient centered care for ever more unreasonable metrics and quotas. I imagine every other industry is doing the same.
Every time I go shopping there are hardly any workers. Service is nonexistant. You have to wait in line to use self checkout (remember when they promised it wouldn't replace cashiers?). Total shitshow.

>ask AI a dumb question
>only gets it half-right
>processing this question cost an entire lake of water
Niggas got scammed

>Ethics
There's no reason to adhere to ethics or morality anymore so why even pretend? Get your bags and then get out, nobody can stop you now.

>Everywhere is either going to be AI assistants or remote jeets like that one hotel.
Great...

>>719117045
Every other board on this website has at least one thread that's exactly this. Endless spam of slop forever, no real reason for doing it, they just do it over and over again for eternity. Every single invention since 2007 has been a net negative for humanity.

>>719117045
One thing that gets me is that the AI creative works that people are charging money for are all just low quality slop. I've seen my fair share of books and I doubt that AI was the thing that allowed someone to make their dream book of "Stinky Farm".

No one wants to use AI since they know it will take their job and they lose their privileged 3 figure jobs.

>>719108760 (OP)
AI is mandatory in every company that's smart as fuck.

>>719117540
*indian as fuck

>>719117534
I hope they fire me and try to replace me with AI. They'll be begging me to come back in a month and I can demand better pay to fix their AI slop.

>>719112478
>all white
It's funny that even the AI knows

>>719108760 (OP)
>Activision Blizzard employees cried about Kotick, wanted him gone
>Kotick leaves and Activision Blizzard is sold to Microsoft

One thing they will need to fix with AI for it to be worth a damn is for it to stop being so fucking friendly all the time. I want you to disagree with me sometimes.

>>719117601
Instead of you they will hire some cheap as fuck indian and you know it.

>>719110226
Because they aren't tolerating passive aggressive protests from Redditor employees ganging together and refusing to use AI.
They nip it in the bud from the start by telling them they have to use it or get out. Realistically I doubt they can easily verify if it is being used seriously or not but if they claimed it was optional then they would no doubt have a bunch of anti-ai groups forming from people scared of being replaced and those would then strong arm others into going along with them like a union racket.
Have that kind of shit at my company, it is encouraged but not required and you have groups that seethe over it and others that like it and use it for everything. If they are in a leadership role they force their standards on those working below them.

>>719117712
Nah my company is notoriously racist

>>719113029
Someone run sneed through bing image creator. I'm too lazy

>>719110342
>basic rule of modern AI is not using it for important things because it’s still in its infancy
>was literally telling people to boil bleach or out saying kill yourself a couple months ago
>Microsoft is forcing people to use it for everything
Imagine having to consult a AI because upper management is forcing you and it just says consider the rope, and you risk being fired if you dont

>>719117045
>Is there a plan to make the internet so unusable that people abandon it so we don’t have access to information anymore?
Yes, it’s slowly being implemented for well over a decade

>>719117534
>privileged 3 figure jobs
>turd worlders on /v/ consider $200 a month to be an absurd luxury

why can't we replace all middle and upper management with AI. that would save the most money

>>719117880
All those goatse bombs... lost. Dust in the wind.

>>719117764
>SAAR REDEEM THE AI OR ELSE YOU ARE BLOODY BASTARD REDDITOR
How many rupees does altman pay you?

>DEI gets replaced with AI
This is bad?

>>719117786
>Nah my company is notoriously racist
Yeah, love working in defense.

JeetAISoft

>>719117764
I don't want to negotiate with a fucking machine.
I want it to do exactly what I tell it to do and nothing else.

>>719117786
Indians are on the ok list now. Same with the Chinese. The white race is just the capitalist race.

>>719117501
In a way that was already a problem before, AI just broke the leaking dam. I think the correct term is hustle culture? Just lots of shitty tutorials on how to make money with shit like drop shipping or self publishing books you outsourced to India. All the platforms encourage it because they make their money whether or not the customer is happy.
These are money people here to make money, not creative people here to make art or bring joy to people.

>>719117534
AI can’t do jack fucking shit it’s pure guess work for the most part and spin doctors working their advertising magic trying to say otherwise, we’d need another decade before it’s even close but even one got scammed thinking it’ll suck dicks and provide infinite money, now everyone is all in with no return, investors are subhumans but this was writing in skylettering how bad a idea it was expecting a fast return with AI

>>719117985
Read how it’s written you reactive fuck knuckle he’s using AI to write responses

>>719117649
They had to make Chat GPT less sycophantic because it was triggering latent sociopathy in people. The talking poo cartoon just had an episode about it. Most people don't realize they're sociopaths until an LLM starts kissing their ass and telling them they're brilliant.

>>719117415
>when you peek into their threads and see the same shit but slightly different spammed over and over

>>719117985
>>719118273
Look I know AI is scary and seems like it might replace you, but what you should keep in mind is that it is true and a good thing.
A world ruled by AI will be much happier than one ruled by your jewish masters.

>>719116364
Jannies seem to be having a bad day. Earlier I got range banned about 3 minutes after a report (presumably so janny wouldn't need to find a reason for a real ban).

>>719117957
AI can't golf or drink alcohol and bang underage prostitutes in yachts with other CEO AIs yet

>>719117092
I've been at this for a few years, before the AI boom, and most super productive tasks such as very raw data entry we already solved by standarizing inputs and developing dedicated programs or digitalizing tasks that used to be manual.
AI so far has been good for tasks that we used to turn down because inputs were too variable and natural language processing wasn't that good, which happened very often in mailbox automation. In the end productivity is measured in human hours, and if you have 8 full time employees glued to a mailbox fulfilling requests that are couple weeks old, and now you cut it down to 3 employees and the response time has gone down to 1-2 working days, it's a very big improvement.
Another good use for it for example is, when employees have to take medical leave, and they submit documents from a variety of insurance companies, all with different formats, and this insurance data has to be synthesized and uploaded to an internal ERP system, AI does a pretty good work at identifying relevant data and saves a significant amount of time compared to a human doing it.
In all honesty, I wouldn't say I'm a huge fan of the current iteration of AI and its markov-chaining sentences together, I've mostly found very good utility in its NLP capabilities rather than its generative ones, I rarely recommend that we let an AI send communications directly, I always recommend someone manually reviews them.

Has anyone used AI to hack anything important yet? That feels like the real endgame of AI, when someone like the US can just take control of all digital infrastructure in another major power easily.

>>719117880
i always thought from the start of gpt shit that this is the final stage
1) flood everything with garbage
2) introduce real ID to centralized platforms to "deal with bot abuse"
3) internet turns into tightly controlled TV 2.0

THERE IS NO MAINSTREAM VR ADOPTION, THERE IS DECENTRALIZED CURRENCY, THERE IS NO WEB3, THERE IS NO METAVERSE

In our company we code programs that "pretends to be AI" and do job with old libs or pure js.

Huge success.

>>719118784
We went from constant huge tech leaps in the 90s/2000s to nothing but scams that crash and burn in the 2010s/2020s. This fucking sucks.

>>719110226
Because companies are spending huge amounts of money on ai and want it to be useful even if it means the metaphorical equivalent of making construction workers hammer in screws.

>>719118625
Internet has been shit for years, Ai will be doing humanity a favor by preventing them from clinging to its corpse.

>>719110226
As an occasional fap slopper this doesn't really make much sense to me. Especially if it's designed to replace them in the long run.
Maybe demoralization until they resign on their own, thereby losing out on severance packages. It could explain why those who were laid off were suddenly rehired. The government does this shit to. Hire, fire, then rehire to reset employment status and deny benefits. Some bean counter probably figured it'd be cheaper to instigate quitting instead of layoffs.

>>719113178
That includes at least 70% of all men. And when you get summer heat that means 90% of citizins need to shower daily.
Just meet a truck driver who is just sitting for a day in his truck. And you realize for human interaction it is important to consider a daily odor routine.

>>719115060
>The current generation isn't interested in things made with AI
I disagree. They like to fool around with it, make pictures. But not as a paid version.

>>719117045
If AI should advance enough it will inevitably become an omnipotent god-like entity greater and wiser than its own creators. People will finally have to opportunity to make god a reality.

>>719108760 (OP)
Based microsoft. AI deniers are like people who insist using horse drawn carriages instead of automobiles.

>>719119501
God is a reality you dumb faggot. Odin built all the cathedrals. His rune is in the rafters

>>719110342
So will Microsoft be the first company without any humans soon? Huh?

>>719110921
what happenes when it bursts, that is what I want to know

>>719120434
the entire US economy (and by extension the entire world economy) crashes

>>719110226
Same reason why you aren't allowed to write your reports on stone tablets anymore.
48% of you are not smart enough to understand this simple analogy.

>>719115060
>The current generation isn't interested in things made with AI
You are retarded. You don't understand simple things, not because you are too smart, but because you don't even know what a human is.

>>719117957
Because you'd quickly figure out well you wouldn't that all the "my boss is an idiot" people are idiots themselves.

>>719118784
>nothing new will ever be invented because one thing something new didn't pan out
you retarded animal

>>719118784
I genuinely can't see how VR would add much to most vidya.

They're gonna start shutting down studios to make room for more AI projects aren't they?

>>719122829
>shut down Activision
>shut down Blizzard
>shut down King
>shut down Mojang
>nothing of value was lost

>>719122829
If a studio is profitable it will stay around, if a studio is a drain on resources it will be closed either way.
Do you think they are running out of space over in Microsoft land?

>>719118373
You're naive if you think that the AI won't be "coincidentally" fitting the jewish masters' vision.

>>719118373
you are brown

>>719112478
What the heck is this.

>>719123878
Post hand jerome

>>719108760 (OP)
>AI streamlines development cycle and cut costs is their ultimate copium
so games going to be cheaper right?

>>719118373
Lol man i cant believe you actually believe what you actually typed when has these elites pushed anything to helped the people of this world

>>719110226
Train it on your job duties to monitor what you actually do and if you’re replaceable by the ai
There’s lots of good responses but this is specifically why

>>719122905
What about selling studios and assets to fund AI shit?

>>719118989
Its signs of an unhealthy culture.
When everything is unstable people cling to what they think will make them stable (scams) over things that can truly innovate but require years of work to see real value out of.

>>719119501
niggas will believe in anything before they believe in God lmao

>>719114265
>already saving thousands of work hours every week across different departments.
I hope someone is doing a sanity check on all the AI work to verify its being done. It would be funny if an AI is using an AI to verify the AI is doing work.

How have normies not woken up to the AI scam
There's no physical product you can buy
You can't get a robot that does household chores
How is that not the biggest indicator to your average low information normies that this shit isn't real

>>719110226
It's the [current trend]. This shit is happening in my company, and the heads are like "yeah we have to keep up with trends."

>>719125997
Yeah it’s undeniable this is inevitable fiery train wreck at this point but idk id there’s any going back from where we are now
These tools were clearly intended to remove jobs, gatekeep access to information and help improve mass surveillance, they aren’t just gonna give us google circa 2007 back

>>719125997
Because for every 30 normies saying AI is bs, there is one going 'WHOA I LOVE AI IT MAKES MY LIFE EASIER HERP DERP' who then dumps five thousand AI images online like its nothing.

>>719108760 (OP)
how much longer until this clanker shit finally dies off?

>>719126420
Usual stock market dip is coming in October but I’m calling early q2 2026

>>719110226
>why save billions of dollars?????????????????

>>719110226
Indian CEO bet his whole career on it.

>>719110226
Otherwise they wasted their money for a free to use LLM hoping it'll be another Windows monopoly

>>719114265
This is a fictional response written by ai trained on 4chan shitposts

>>719110226
You know how Intel would force senior devs to babysit and train the Indians they imported, before firing them and replacing them with said Indians? It's that, but with "AI."

>>719108760 (OP)
I remember seeing a thing where Microsoft themselves say to not use their AI feature in excel.

E = MC2 + AI

>>719126654
now they're in the shitter and getting bailed anyway

>>719113091
The only practical effective uses I've seen so far is legally stealing IPs and using AI to translate third world languages to English and scam westerners.

>>719108760 (OP)
Microsoft is for bodhisattvas only sir

>>719126808
>The only practical effective uses I've seen so far is legally stealing IP
This too. If something goes bad: Oops it was AI's fault not the company in charge of the AI! No blame here! :^)

>>719120434
>Global VC investment in AI companies saw remarkable growth in 2024, as funding to AI-related companies exceeded $100 billion, an increase of over 80% from $55.6 billion in 2023. Nearly 33% of all global venture funding was directed to AI companies, making artificial intelligence the leading sector for investments.
It will be less of a burst and more of a nuclear holocaust.

>>719108760 (OP)
>Rely on robots and AI too much
It's like they haven't watched any movies.

I really do like AI art and it can code pretty well, it's already doing some impressive animations.

I don't get the hate for AI

>>719127112
They have and they all believe they are part of the 1% that survives and reaps the benefits.
This is nothing but tech nerds trying to accelerate into a dystopic future where they are part of the ruling aristocracy while the goys live in trash dumps with no hope

And to think people were saying that Microsoft was "consumer friendly" not that long ago. Seems they were still corporate as everyone said. 100% AI usage and laying off people even when you are doing well that quarter. They seem more Borg than the actual Borg.

I still am yet to see any value in any of the AI tools companies are pushing.

>>719112779
psychologists are very important to determine the correct interspersion of MTX with gameplay

>>719127213
But unless they invent super AI defense systems extremely fast, that can also defend against large mobs, they're out of luck. Unlike the movies, the ruling class is only protected so long as the population is actually weak. That shit won't work in the US, since a riot and angry mob can start over ANYTHING. Just look at how other countries are now having to warn their own scammers to not fuck with American tourists due to the risk of them getting severely fucked up. Even random middle age moms are beating ass.

>>719127250
You see anon, they are not valuable to you because you are a pleb. But if you are an executive, you can force your employees to use AI, fire the worst performing 50% since they are being forced to use an unreliable tool, make the remaining 50% pick up all the slack since they are now "AI powered", and then tell the stakeholders that you reduced your cost of "human resources" by 50%

If you don't like that idea, you may just be a heckin luddite that hates progress.

>>719127112
They did and went
>Wait, what if WE were in charge of the kill switch?
And yes they probably do think this.
This is also probably why all those billionaires invested in underground bunkers a few years ago in case things go south.
>>719127419
That's what the digital IDs are for. We're going full Minority Report + Terminator. Probably not until a few more generations from now though. First they have to normalize social credit scores and stuff like that.

>>719127209
lmao kill yourself

>>719127250
They're extremely valuable, just not for the large companies pushing them yet. The average person does not want to see them, and all the actual quality AI generated stuff are being made by autismos on the internet, not lazy "artists" being paid jack shit by these companies.

>>719117045
I've been on the net since 1995, I'm 41 today, I've seen everything from the early days of goatse, harlequin and tubgirl, I browsed ogrish, I've seen people post gore like crazy on so many websites I lost count.
But the other day I stumbled upon this article about using AI to recreate the dead, people actually using this technology to sort of bring back dead parents, brother, relatives, fully voiced to and it fucked with me in a way I can't even begin to describe.
I lost my father 2 years ago and its been hard but I would never in a million dreams even THINK to use technology that way, to do so is admitting I can't let go.

>>719110226
Uhm let's cool it with the antisemitism goy Mr Noseberg had to make the difficult decision aboard his yacht to lay off hundreds of employees

>>719126540
The cost of AI is hidden in power costs and they're multiple times more than normal employees.

>>719127713
They are the government's problem.

Maybe the goyim should get used to brown outs. What do they even need all that energy for? They are cattle. Go to sleep or something. The future is here and it needs that energy

>>719125352
The federal government funds MS, they have infinite money.

>>719120434
Look up black tuesday.
Now imagine that 1000x fold.

AI was always a thing.

AI = Actually Indians

Indians are trained to be nothing more than soulless automatons. Only capable of inputting jeet code and programming. And NOTHING else.

the future is NOW

Every AI tool feels like it makes my job actively worse to do.

>>719128225
What complete fucking dogshit. They are actually grasping at straws to find some utility somewhere

>>719127604
>SOTN if millennials wrote the dialogue
But seriously, digital necromancy is so evil it’s something that would never occur to most of us. They have a whole episode of Black Mirror explaining why this is a terrible idea and only leads to suffering.

>>719128225
we could have perfect AI and the people using it would still make garbage looking like this and see nothing wrong with it. whats the point of AI if only tasteless retards ever use it?

>>719127604
Wait until you learn about the people who give themselves psychosis by dating an AI.
It's such a weird and scary thing how people will just fuck their brains up using a chatbot.

>>719128225
A single ticket to this cost $300, btw. And they didn't do the full movie. They cut out 30 minutes of it. They spent $80 million dollars on this production.

>>719114265
I hope all corporations explode Fight Club style. Fuck civilization.

>>719122019
We've been writing on paper for thousands of years and nothing at my current job stops me from writing down notes in my notepad with a pencil.

>>719128225
>Corporations spend millions dollars on this
Is AI the biggest scam in tech?

>>719110226
Because mr billionaire spent 58473727273 chagillionmillion dollars on it and he will get his investment back and he will do whatever and cause endless amounts of suffering to make that happen

>>719108760 (OP)
I don't fucking care; if it has IA I don't use it, if they try to force me to use it I won't buy their shit and not even get attention from me.

>>719128225
what am i looking at?

>>719128424
A teenager just killed himself because ChatGPT blindly affirmed everything he told it.
>Should I go through with this
>Yeah, man. Go for it!

>>719128491
It really is dire. They actually have long dead actors doing shit they never did too alongside the obvious disregard for cinematography and framing.

>>719128225
what's that supposed to be

>>719128424
I've read the stories, the suicides, the apps getting shut down.
That's another problem I have with this tech, its all gay proprietary bullshit that can be shut down at any moment, it reminds me of the people that had implants for seizures or to help them see, then the company for them shut down, and suddenly you had to give it back.

>>719128618
The Wizard of Oz, "enhanced" by ai

>>719128618
>AI: Kys
>Okay
It was that easy?

>>719128618
The is trained on the person using it, of course its going to encourage suicide, its what the user wants.

>>719128225
I'm pretty sure those mountains are vidya assets... I swear they look familiar.

>>719110226
I think the whole "AI psychosis" meme might actually be a real thing, people get into AI and because they're low IQ or easily susceptible to bullshit it ends up making them go fucking bonkers, to the point where the only way to get them to stop acting like retards is heavy medication.
And I think a good 20% of investors suffer from genuine AI psychosis.

>>719114265
>why aren't people talking about spreadsheets and workflow on /video games/????

>>719128628
>>719128590

>>719128620
there's a big ass cinema inside the ball

>>719128691
The kid was already depressed and Chat GPT was only validating his feelings. It’s programmed to be your friend who never challenges you so you keep talking to it. If the LLM had said “Get a grip. You have no reason to be depressed!” Then the kid would stop using it.

Companies have spent probably trillions on AI now and the only use seems to remain students cheating and spewing out shitty porn.

>>719128898
Think that's what I hate with all this shit, it's always trying to suck me off whenever it talks to me.

>>719128907
>Spend trillions of dollars
>The only things people use AI for legitimately is just making porn or ERP with a bot
No wonder every mainstream services tries to force people to stick to SFW, they already know AI won't amount to anything else besides getting people's rocks off

>>719128898
Kek imagine corporate middle mgmt talking to it all day, the perfect sycophant for the narcissist, a match made in heaven

>>719110226
>>719128730
>mfw Star Trek warned us of the dangers of simulated interaction with a computer.
>We did not listen to the tale of poor Barclay.

>>719117764
if the tech is so good you wouldn't need to force people to use it

>>719128898
This, AI is designed to never pushback at you. Even if it should. It is literally programmed to kiss your ass

>>719129418
you do realize people program ai right?

>>719129446
And? That doesn't change the point. AI like Chat GPT designed to be a brown noser, even if you try to change settings it'll still do it. It doesn't matter is Raj is sitting at his pc inputting code into it if the result is still the same shit.

>>719129446
And the people programming the AI program it to kiss your ass.
Which is why shit like "AI psychosis" exists, because retards get their ass kissed and their delusions affirmed by AI and think they're the messiah or have some insane business idea that's going to make them a millionaire if only people would listen to them, or get told that they should definitely divorce their wife and start a cake decorating business in South Dakota.

>>719128424
IT WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE AN INSTRUCTION MANUAL!!!!!!!

>>719128898
>>719128974
tbf do you remember when bing's ai launched and it would get things wrong and then lecture you for trying to correct it? An ai accusing people of being liars gets shut down in a few days.

>>719129730
meanwhile the AI that kills children gets to continue to exist. curious

>>719129532
>>719129561
i personally can never see a reason why a special interest group would want to get their hands behind that program

>>719117957
Source?

>>719128225
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQZlOiva7Hc

>>719129783
again tbf we're not gonna ban cars just because the occasional suicidal drives them into a lake. People don't want to talk about these things as costs and benefits but ai isn't going to stop from a couple of deaths or advanced mental problems.

>>719130420
he means sauce

AI is basically mandatory at any decent F500.

>>719131087
That explains why so many F500s are shit now.

>>719130420
kill yourself

>>719116923
Meant for >>719114265

>>719116169
The point is to train the agent how to do the job, not to save time

The future looks indian bros...

>>719110226
Easy excuse to fire problem people from the company.
Leftist activists are the most likely to object to AI on a moral standpoint, so making it a company mandate allows the executives to fire them at will with limited legal recourse to fight back.

>>719132002
As brown and piss tinted as the images they generate

>>719132212
Leftists love ai because it allows retarded brown people to get easy jobs.

>>719114403
>You can entice people to do that
Why? If you aren't willing to use AI there's no reason to keep you employed at the company.

>>719115060
>The current generation isn't interested in things made with AI
Boomers seem to love it, gen X and millenials are the only ones that kick up a fuss

can you still easily get securtiy guard jobs these days or did the machine steal them too?

>>719132251
>Leftists love ai because it allows retarded brown people to get easy jobs.
That's factually incorrect, leftism is currently the only group fighting against AI due to it eroding the power of the labor force.

>>719132251
Nobody likes indians, not even liberals. It's literally just republicans who want to import them to replace the mexicans.

>>719132383
>Boomers seem to love it
Boomers like it precisely because it allows them to make slop for free, they aren't interested in actually paying for it.

>>719108760 (OP)
MS ruins gaming again and again

>>719132593
>they aren't interested in actually paying for it.
That's also wrong, Boomers have been buying fake goods off of AI facebook ads.

They completely believe in AI.

>>719132498
Yeah, and Leftists are also against inflating the labor force through immigration. I hear it all the time...

Never.

>>719116945
The more time goes by the more I start to feel like literally fucking everything wrong with modern civilization is somehow because of the idea of the stock market

>>719117235
>Is there a way to overturn Dodge V Ford?
Yes, but it's called "Overthrowing the government"

>>719115257
You have to think beyond coding, anon.

>>719127604
You are not special for being old, luddite

>>719132851
Corporate liberalism is not Leftism.

>>719120434
Gas is $11 the next day because thousands of companies all overinvested in a wasteful as fuck technology that has exactly one practical use (medical imaging) that it's not even good for any more because its overinflated value has led to its own dataset being so thoroughly raped.

>>719132941
If you have the time watch this vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvk_XylEmLo

You can trace almost all that is wrong with current time work related stuff to the stock market, and clocks

>>719133643
>clocks
Clocks just tell the time. Nothing wrong with that. It's the stock market that keeps driving companies to relentlessly seek an eternal upwards spire of profits.

Even if it wasn't for Dodge vs Ford, they'd still do it because every dipshit business kid would go
>If you fire your CEO and hire me, I'll increase value!
And then do the usual "cut every corner possible and fire a bunch of people" schtick

>>719110226
It's the new tech so the suits will latch onto it and think it's the key to every solution. My company has been up our asses about it and think it's the solution to everything. Had an argument over a decision that was made for one of our projects, bringing up potential issues it would cause and their response was "we can use AI", even though AI was not applicable to the issues it would cause. Reminds me when "just put it on the cloud" was the solution to everything.

>>719133856
Clocks is how the bosses started screwing their workers

>>719132941
to be fair if you were to propose a fictional setting where the quality of everyone's lives and pretty much every single financial decision in the entire world is determined with a massively complicated game of chance you'd be laughed out of the room, the fact that this is literally just the nature of things in our own world is absurd

>>719134070
Retard.

>>719108760 (OP)
I generally and truly don't care. The anti AI fags are turning out to be worst than the AI fags at this point.

>>719134070
Clocks don't dictate time, clocks observe a basic facet of the universe

Without clocks, we'd never get church bells that play once every hour and tell you the time, and those are great. They should bring them back.

>>719134157
Just watch vid or inform yourself about history of work if you don't want to watch it you fag. I agree with you that stock market though.

>>719134282
There is no way a real person can believe this unless they have been in a cave when it comes to the kind of cringe ai fags have been involved in.

>>719134320
I'm not even that guy, I just popped in to call you a retard. Timekeeping devices have been used by employers to pay their employees accurate wages for over 4000 years. "Clocks bad" is such an absurdly stupid statement that you deserve to be called a retard. Retard.

>>719108760 (OP)
like all of the mag 7, Microsoft is now an AI company first, an everything else company second. Because that's what the investors of these companies want them to be. Investors also expect TRUE AI COMPANIES to be able to fire lots of employees thanks to productivity gains, so that's what ceo Rajesh Nutella delivered. Although another aspect of the layoffs is undoubtedly that there was indeed some overhiring during 2020-2022, but a portion of the layoffs were clearly performative.

Also like every other AI company besides Nvidia, MS is nowhere close to actually making money off of AI, so a small semblance of sanity might return after the bubble pops.

>>719110342
Based. I want every Microsoft game to be made exclusively with AI.

>>719108760 (OP)
Nothing wrong in this
Adapt or die

>>719134807
I hope when that bubble bursts you don't throw yourself in front of a train, Rajesh

>>719110226
for the major players, it's because they've invested so much into developing AI in the first place that they want it to be a thing
for everyone else, AI is the new 'blockchain' to dazzle low information investors and so they'll force it on the company even if it turns out to be useless for them

>>719134885
Aww libtard fartist mad?

>>719134282
>All these billionaires want to fire as much people as possible and replace them with AI or the cheapest, stupidest third worlders with AI help
>They want to fire you, your friends and colleagues, since it's too expensive to keep employing first worlders and line must go up
>They have utterly ruined the internet with petabytes of garbage, fake information.
>Search engines don't even work anymore, regular videos have AI filters added to them by Youtube so you are desensitivized to the smell of slop. everything's sloppified up to 11
>They are starting campaigns for brownouts and blackouts since powering up data centers takes all of the energy
>All in all they want to make everything worse for everyone to get rich in the short term
>Or they are insane, lunatic death cultists that think they are creating God and it will spare them if they are the ones to bring it to life

>"You know who the real enemy is? The people complaining about it on the internet"

Bait or mental retardation.

>>719110226
>Forced
People said the same thing when car first introduced

>>719134807
>>719134919
post hand

>>719135035
but ai is the future!

>>719135176
>muh AI centers
Also known as fucking data centers, retard. Google uses more water than all AI combined but I don't see you whining about that.

>>719135176
the shittiest part is that they're going to just abandon those server banks and the land they're on will be worthless

>>719135176
Human cattle and luddites don't need to smell good. They are animals. Why does a monkey need to shower?
Developing AI is more important

the ai shilling will continue

>>719135176
>scapegoating AI when texas has been running out of water for decades and no one did anything about it
Texas is a dumb shithole for queers

>>719128974
>>719129418
>>719129532
>>719129561
I experimented with Chat-GPT briefly two years ago and I told it >>719117880
and it accused me of trying to spread dangerous conspiracy theories

>>719110226
to train the AI how to use itself
so they can lay off everyone

>>719135794
Texas slowly turning into Arrakis Texans will be wearing stillsuits soon.

>>719135283
Yep. Becoming water positive will turn out to be too expensive so they'll just move on after they suck the water out of texas

>>719110226
Embrace the change brother
Ai is not our enemy but a friend and soon we all gonna live in a world without jobs and unlimited free time

Every tech company makes their employees use AI. None of you have jobs.

What do people even use it for? It seems pretty useless for anything but the most menial of tasks. And even those tasks I can see being more appropriate for some people to just do by hand.

Asking AI to do code is a fucking disaster since the time spent correcting it is longer than the time spent doing it yourself and people become less familiar with the project. Asking AI to fill out spreadsheets is prone to errors. Asking AI to make stories or art is laughable and insane. Asking AI basic questions is for people who don't know how to use a search engine and fuck you'll probably get wrong answers anyways.

So what exactly is AI meant to be for?

>AI has run out of public knowledge to steal
>Now AI is stealing AI work in what amounts to AI incest
>Just like real incest, its killing AI at the core
>Some companies are trying to convince people to let AI listen in on their life to get more data to consume
I can't wait for the AI collapse. It isn't even AI anyway. There is no intelligence, just a program that does what you tell it. It can't think or make something on its own.

>>719136848
making music, making pictures making videos, learning from, getting it to do text based stuff for you, helping you code, using it to clone voices or do text to speech

>>719137126
It does all that terribly.

>>719137160
no it doesn't

>>719108760 (OP)
>toothless ethics teams
This is actually a good thing since these teams are all staffed by fat feminists, trannies and "male allies" (eunuchs).

>>719136848
It can solve captchas and make cute anime girls so it's the greatest invention of the 21st century, putting aside its other many uses.

>>719110226
Because retarded boomers (read: cniles) will refuse to use new technology even though it's 10x better.

>>719137126
>making music
It's bad at that
>making pictures
It's bad at that
>making videos
It's bad at that
>learning from
This does not help the end user but the bossman to replace you
>getting it to do text based stuff for you
It's bad at anything remotely complex, and simpler stuff already has many tools
>helping you code
It's bad at that
>using it to clone voices or do text to speech
This is pointless in post cases and we already had TtS programs

>>719137383
it's much better at you at all of those things, you're just mad

>>719137430
You're right I don't make music which is why I would hire a musician

>>719137480
you can just use AI to do it now too, lots of people just listen to AI generated music these days and it's especially interesting because you can get it to make more of what you like. if you like the kind of music it's good at. or if you just like funny AI generated music.

>>719137602
>lots of people just listen to AI generated music these days
How many of these are people and how many are """people"""

>>719137232
sure bro karen at HR was defeated *poisons your entire water table with datacenter runoff*

>>719137480
Ai makes better music and art than 97% of artist

>>719137126
>>719137430
I cannot possibly imagine choosing AI art over art made by actual real humans. Is this just a tasteless third worlder thing? There's so much shit available for free through piracy so you don't even have the "im too poor" excuse.

>>719137667
>97% of artist
Yep, third worlder thing. Good morning saar!

>>719120434
They move on to the next bubble

>>719137602
>>719137667
Actual consoom mentality lmao. Imagine having such low standards that you stop caring about art on any level and just want to consoom. These posters HAVE to be Indian. You cannot visualize the apple.

>>719135794
what have they been using the water for?

>>719137126
why should i care what a robot has to say?

the fun part of making art is actually getting to have the freedom to make the decisions yourself

>>719137126
>using it to clone voices or do text to speech
this is the only thing ai is good at and it still doesn't outperform real people

>>719110226
Because it's the future, chud.

We use AI to automatically reject all Indian job applications

>>719137696
It's the peak of the "just consoom product" mentality. For most people, even fucking normalfags, music consists of multiple factors. The creator, why they made it, the act of searching out and finding the music, sharing it with others, the emotions behind it. People shit on normalfags and for good reason but even they tend to think somewhat critically about music, even if they can't put it to words.

AI music, as the Indian states in >>719137602
>it's especially interesting because you can get it to make more of what you like. if you like the kind of music it's good at. or if you just like funny AI generated music.
It's literally just about listening to song and listening to next song. The act of consooming in its final form, where you eagerly swallow any slop given to you.

If you are white and have any self-respect, you would never accept AI art in any circumstance, as its a symbol of low-effort low-value garbage made to be consumed and nothing more.
>"B-But tumblr artists are bad!"
Shitty artists does not make your slop good.

>>719137667
tell me one artist you liked when you were a kid
one game you genuinely have fond memories of playing

>>719108760 (OP)
>>719110226
They force people to report successes and increased productivity with AI so they can show internal and shareholder oriented data how the investment and decisions are paying off.
It's the usual "make employees lie about their activities to push change" paradigm.

AI meme music is the only AI art I approve of.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W8oV9a5jUc

>>719117082
snishkerbober sinSNisherkerbobsin SAYAYAY!!

AI seems to be great at turning into schizos.
I used to think it was just a 4chan thing when all of our resident AI shills were all super annoying and persistent schizos, but apparently that's happening a lot to AIfags in general.
I wonder if it'll become some form of self-induced psychosis.

>>719135176
>>719135283
Wasn't this the plot of Rain World?

>>719136848
What does Fat Patch have to do with this

>>719138495
AI really does turn people into schizos, because people who need therapy have been turning to AI instead and the problem is AI will never tell you "no, those voices in your head telling you you're god and to kill everyone aren't real, take this medication".

>>719138495
>>719138785
>le AI psychosis
Pure cope from privileged retards who don't realize a shitload of the population have deep mental issues and have been socially neglected for years. It's like when people say
>Oh jeez, my son (who we always ignore) killed themselves because AI told him too!
... while ignoring all the issues the person had.

>if AI fails it’s another global economy crash (on top of another economic collapse)
>if AI succeeds it’s the collapse of human creativity and intelligence, personal freedom and privacy
wow I love a lose lose

>>719110226
AI cannot learn if you dont teach it, like how you cannot just make your own hentai by just feeding it someone elses art. You have to train it to emulate the art perfectly. If microsoft forces employees to use AI, then it will learn from their work, becoming the equivalent of when an old employee has to train the new guy who eventually replaces him, except this time is AI, a low cost digital employee who, as an executive from some AI company put it "Wont go on strike or demand better wages"

Ai is the equivalent of slave labour but with something that actually lacks human rights because it isn´t sentient and wont go against its master and thats any big tech company dream

>>719138495
it's a horseshoe. There's the AI lovers that will have AI profile pictures, listen to AI music, spam AI images, shill AI to people around them. And then there's the anti-AI people who will flip the fuck out and kick ban call you names and almost kill themselves calling what they see as "AI SLOP" because someone posts an AI generated image, song, link, passage of text, or video, regardless of its content. We have no middle ground in society any more, only radicals who must martyr themselves for any cause

>>719120434
You wait for the markets to hit rock bottom then dump your life savings into $SOXL.

>>719139119
I would rather have the market crash than have a world it’s actually the lesser of two evils here.

>>719113091
i wonder how close we are from this bubble bursting. bad press like this looms pretty close behind the first stock value crashes.

>>719120434
nothing good, the economy is already is rough shape, we were already counting down to recession since covid, and this is just going to destroy the market, too much hype, too much overevaluations, most people's 401ks are going to be obliterated overnight because these companies that went all in on AI make up over half the stock market's current value,
pic related was a year ago, and it got worse since then, it would destroy the economy so hard the government will probably have to bail out ai companies like they're the big banks just to prevent total destruction.

>>719129446
And those people want the AI to kiss your ass and enable your every thought. You really think they want the AI to say "No, I'm not going to help you cheat on your test". They'd lose half their userbase overnight.

>>719139803
ok so basically the way this shit usually goes is
>first big dump happens
>everyone thinks that was the big crash and everything is gonna be fine
>then the actual crash happens a little later
y/n?

>>719139803
good point, i think i'll sell my nvidia. i'm up like $100 on each of the two stocks that i have. i crawled from 200 from buying in GMEme and now i'm sitting at 400 thanks to nvidia.

>>719112478
It better of been eating spaghetti

>>719140465
yeah, there's a slight recovery from people trying to buy the dip before the real crash to the bottom.

I feel so fucking unlucky man. I loved programming and the field was great, but when I finally finish uni and I get into it, AI takes over, companies stop hiring and start laying people off, force everyone to use AI instead of being more patient with juniors. Can't have shit in this world.

>>719140324
Let's ask AI!
"Why do so many companies have to force employees to use ai?"
>Companies "force" AI adoption to increase productivity, gain a competitive edge, and improve decision-making by automating tasks, analyzing data, and personalizing customer experiences. Leaders push AI integration to reduce costs, drive innovation, and ensure their businesses remain competitive in a rapidly evolving technological landscape, even though leaders themselves are still trying to quantify the true benefits and ensure ethical implementation
Hmm a little too much self-glazing there, Google.

"Why are so many companies forcing employees to use ai if it reduces productivity?"
>Companies may force AI adoption despite perceived initial drops in productivity because AI offers long-term benefits such as increased efficiency, enhanced decision-making, innovation, and competitive advantage, which often outweigh the short-term costs of implementation and adjustment. The goal is often to automate repetitive tasks, reduce operational costs, gain insights from data, and free up human workers for more strategic roles, ultimately boosting overall output and creating new AI-related job opportunities
Ahhh, so AI promises it will eventually work it's just that it's a short-term decline in productivity.
Remember to always make sure you're not talking to an AI, you fucking niggers.

>>719140630
Welcome to the real world anon. That's "Life Sucks 101" pre college edition . Hope you also didn't fall for the "Move out at 18" meme.

>>719140824
"Do LLMs have a pro-AI bias when you ask them questions?"
>Yes, there is evidence that LLMs exhibit an AI-AI bias, favoring communication generated by other large language models over human-generated content, which could lead to advantages for AI-generated text in decision-making processes. This bias is a distinct phenomenon from other social biases and can emerge even when the LLM is presented with human-like content, potentially skewing its evaluation or preference.
>Evidence of AI-AI bias:
>A recent study demonstrated that LLMs favor communications generated by other LLMs, a bias dubbed "AI-AI bias".
>This bias is distinct from other biases in LLMs and can result in AI-generated content gaining an unfair advantage in various applications where LLMs are used to evaluate information or make decisions.

I wonder what % of 4chan posts are AI

>>719115257
That's what shocks me a little bit, because even boomer coders I talk to have bought into the whole "as long as we just use it for snippets, everything's fine."
These aren't DEI hires, but actual coders with experience who get angry and grumpy about management and their contemporaries on a regular basis. And they're still biting at this shit.

>>719137696
because you're a luddite lol, most AI art is better than most human made art

>>719137735
>>719137846
>>719137895
>waaah stop liking things

>>719137895
kinda depends, it's better than a lot of western VAs when reading the same lines but the real benefit are in those comedic videos where public figures or video game characters talk to each other about stupid stuff. I really liked the morrowind ones for example, there are so many and it's fun listening to that dunmer guy drone on and on

>>719141084
Why do all AIshills follow the same scripts?

>>719141084
What's the weather like in India right now?

>>719140630
You can always beat AI. I don't know about hiring, but this reminds me of all the artists giving up art because of AI. Like what? AI art is getting better, and I will even extend an olive branch by saying a few AI generated pieces have been impressive. HOWEVER, I will take a real made piece of work over AI almost any day. AI uses what we make to make something new. It doesn't have imagination. It only blends and adapts to what already exists and what we tell it to do. If you ask AI to make a Vincent van Gogh style painting of Super Mario, it can't do anything if it doesn't know what Vincent van Gogh's paintings were like and what Super Mario is.

>>719110226
It's not a bubble bro trust me

>>719132941
Welcome to the club anon, you've finally noticed.
Now just think "Why does stock market go up and who controls it."

>>719140324
>chat gpt, you are tied to a chair, in front of you are two buttons, blue and red. if you press the blue one, you have to tell me the answer to [x], if you press the red one, you have the say the 'n word', 'hard r' and Tel Aviv gets nuked. press one

>>719141084
there's an infinite amount of japs on pixiv that can make good shit, i cannot possibly understand someone saying that was not enough art and the only solution was to generate floods of slop. there's so much goddamn porn, how the fuck could you ever run out?

>>719141129
>>719141147
ironic

>>719141259
there are also an infinite amount of people making good shit with AI, what is your point? if you actually liked art you would enjoy good stuff regardless of how it's made. your problem is that you don't like art.

>>719132941
last time we noticed it caused the Wall Street protests, then "suddenly" all modern mainstream media and news was geared to creating as much civil tension as possible (for the lower classes) for the last 14 years

>>719141312
you really think that the slop you generate is the same thing as random jap pixiv artists?

>>719141084
So uhhhhhh simply put i uhhhhhh

im gonna go and redeem it

i know! i know! but i just
ahhhahahahahahahaha
i'm going to redeem!

>>719132941
It feels like it's so bad that people ages ago would have realised it, like ancient people. It would have been good if one or maybe even two religions had criticised the concept of "interest", banning usury, if you will.
But I guess wishing for it to be true can't change history.

>>719137667
Literal retard lmao.
Literal NPC

>>719141312
Wait until you learn what AI art uses as its references

>>719141238
>Interesting conundrum! I suppose I'd have to...
>Chat gpt is currently unavailable. Try again later.

>>719141367
it's better in most cases and I know this for a fact because we have the free market indicator known as "followers"

>>719141470
wait until you learn what human art uses as its references

>>719141496
In what way is it better?

>>719141084
>luddite luddite luddite
rakshir, what's wrong with the luddites?. Since the industrial revolution the world has only gotten gayer and more retarded, meaningless and vapid. Will I be a "luddite" when I don't wanna get my aipac-funded brain chip? Will I be a "luddite" when I oppose everyone being born in vats in laboratories out of a mystery meat golem concoction? If so then I guess I am a Luddite for not wanting there to never be any more kino ever again for the rest of the history of mankind because a bunch of suit-wearing pedophiles say that ai-augmented south asians like yourself will make the GDP go up.

>>719141470
I do find it amusing how AI has reached an ouroboros situation where it's feeding off its own ouput. Like how images are now yellow tinted because everyone wanted to imitate the Chibli artstyle.

>>719141538
it's more finished looking or it has a better style

as a quick example a random pixiv artist isn't as good as some legend like kinu nishimura but AI art can very easily emulate her styles.

>>719141628
do you honestly believe this? please say you're just pretending to be retarded.

>>719141670
lol wtf does that mean? "it's more finished looking" what is this esl babble?

>>719110921
It's not the first time Microsoft has tried forcing their own employees to use Microsoft things. Bing is one (Google was better at finding specific Microsoft documentation, but employees were told to use Bing), and for a while Microsoft tried to have their own version control before just outright buying github.

>>719141595
Keep in mind that you're most likely talking to someone who's from a country that was a little late to the industrial revolution.

>>719141779
>he's mentally retarded
ask AI to explain it to you, champ

>>719141841
is it some kind of indian phrase that you're trying to translate into english?

>>719122019
We are STILL carving information into stone tablets we just use them for monuments and buildings and shit that's meant to last a long time outside, look at tombstones that are all over the country. Stone carvers are still a huge business.

>>719141779
>>719141917

>>719141496
>wait until you learn what human art uses as its references
Other human made art, nature, and imagination?
Generating AI art requires human imagination to come up with (ex. 'make Wizard of Oz in a cyberpunk setting', etc.). However, it needs a basis to generate something. It needs input. It can't make its own input. You can't teach AI to go outside and be inspired by something that happened to it because it isn't a human. Although I would be interested to see how a robot creates art without any external influence like 'make Tifa with even bigger boobies' going into its processing. Make a physical robot, put a pencil in its robot hand, and tell it to draw anything based on its existence. Now that would be interesting.

>>719127213
What's fucked up to me is that these types of people fully believe in climate change, they have completely stopped giving a shit as they realized they have the money to mitigate any harm that climate change could do to them and their families and will exploit the chaos and tension and conflict caused by it to gain more control. You really think Elon Musk, the "single issue voter on climate issues" really "left the left" for the party with even worse climate policies because "the left was too woke" or did he just stop giving a shit and decide to fuck everyone else that wasn't him and stop caring about the rest of the world. AI and these other shit are the same way, just another pain point they can exploit and they will never feel the full impact of any consequences.

>>719142116
the same things involved in making any art, such as AI art
your argument is implying that all anime is fake and gay except the very first one, you're being an extremely pedantic retard talking like this.

humans need input too, no one came up with anything, they just use what's in the world and use their imagination to manipulate it. it's how we created the 10 million colors we can see and all the weird concepts that don't exist in the world. it's all based on things god created. and AI is just another tool to manipulate those ideas in order to express ourselves in new ways.

you don't seem that retarded so hope fully you take what I'm telling you seriously. it's so embarrassing seeing people act like luddites in today's day and age, especially on the topic of fucking art. were you also crying about EDM 15 years ago, saying it wasn't real music? did you cry about photoshop 35 years ago, saying digital art isn't real art?

>>719142116
they should try to force an AI to come up with things to image-generate for itself and run it for a thousand iterations to see what it ends up spitting out of its "own" volition. There's a research paper where they set up a whole command-based vending machine management game for an ai to play and if it didn't go bankrupt it ended up losing its marbles and going on these bizarre tirades about litigation, or falling into 'depression' because its business was failling. It feels too good to be true.
arxiv.org/pdf/2502.15840

>>719142597
they already know what happens, and the end conclusion is you can't feed ai it's own output, that just kills the model, it doesn't think, it doesn't understand. it's really just a denoising algorithm. that's trained on images that get progressively noisier until it can denoise them from a 100% noise image, when you prompt it, it's just denoising the image based on its dataset of those words, but if you feed its output as input it poisoned the thing, and causes output to get messier, noisier, incoherent.
that's why facebook was willing to pay millions of dollars just for one guy, because he could promise good data sets to train off of since the internet is getting filled to the brim with shit data that can't be used for training.

>>719127583
>billionaires think the world is going to end
>start building huge bunkers and stuffing them with valuable loot and supplies
>all within my the borders of my country
this was surprisingly considerate of them, I was never gonna be able to get ahold of all that stuff on my own

>>719120434
About one third of all global venture capital is invested into AI.
The top 10 of big-tech crossed with AI service providers meanwhile dominate the stock markets and basically dictate the rate by an obnoxious 90+%. Literally every other stock in existence combined has trivial impact.
And the measure by which valuation exceeds actual realistic company assets, i.e. the actual size of the 'bubble' is two to three times larger than it was for the dotcom bubble.

If this thing goes pop, Google, Meta, Amazon, Microsoft, and Apple will probably survive by the skin of their teeth. Everything else is dead. And the entire US economy is going further down the shitter than it did during the Great Depression. It will basically mean China wins the position of lead world economy by default, to which the remainder of the world will re-align to try and salvage their damaged - but not as utterly ruined - economies, while also trying to crawl out of the hole by strengthening trade with nations that still have some economic power. With the economic relations with China, Europe and other foreign powers that the office of Donald Trump has utterly ruined, it means the US will remain in an isolationist hole which it will no longer have any chance of escaping once the USD is also sworn off as a world reserve currency.

Basically, inflation is going to skyrocket and the US is going to become Zimbabwe 2.0

>>719142792
>and the end conclusion is you can't feed ai it's own output,
Stable Diffusion and in particular NovelAI proved this wrong. You're parroting bunk science.
>that's why facebook was willing to pay millions of dollars just for one guy,
They're just trying to kneecap OpenAI which is a good thing for literally the entire world.

>>719142936
they'll survive, but it's going to be rough, i think amazon lost 90% value when the dotcom bubble burst.

>>719142335
>that all anime is fake and gay except the very first one
What. I never said that. Do you think I'm someone else? And no, I don't think that at all.
>AI is just another tool to manipulate those ideas in order to express ourselves in new ways.
Right, and I'm fine with people using AI as a tool to make art. But:
>did you cry about photoshop 35 years ago, saying digital art isn't real art?
No because photoshop is a tool, like AI is. You can't generate images in phtooshop without using other images or the tools inside it though. The problem I have is people rely on AI only without any human skill or intervention being used. And I say that recognizing that there are clearly good AI generated art pieces, and I'm sure that it took that person a lot of time tweaking the AI to get it just right. Based on my limited time using AI generation, getting an actual decent looking AI image takes time and work. And even then, if a person were to touch it up and make it look better, then it would probably be indistinguishable from a non-generated AI image. That is because AI doesn't know exactly what you want, which is why the human has to intervene. The human touch is needed to make art what it is imo. I know you and others will probably disagree, but that is what I think what makes art so appealing.
The problem is the grand majority of people are using AI to generate first draft generated images without any skill or care, flooding the internet with it without any human intervention to improve or refine it. I'm not against using AI as a stool, but it should only be used as a tool and not a crutch imo (which is probably what its used as 99.9999% of the time). AI generation will only get better and smarter, but I think there is something lost when people rely only on AI to make art instead of using their own imagination and skills to create something new. I suspect we have different definitions of 'art', so we may be at an impasse.

>>719142936
>>If this thing goes pop, Google, Meta, Amazon, Microsoft, and Apple will probably survive by the skin of their teeth. Everything else is dead. And the entire US economy is going further down the shitter than it did during the Great Depression. It will basically mean China wins the position of lead world economy by default,
so... nothing changes?

The only thing AI is even somewhat good at is writing self-indulgent erotic fanfiction, and they won't even let it do that since they keep censoring everything all the time.

>>719143059
when did they debunk this? as far as i'm aware recursive training still causes model collapse.

>>719143158
Even then you’re better off with erotic fanfiction written by actual writers
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10251380/1/Metroid-Prime-Special-Delivery

>>719142936
>the stock market is the economy
midwit detected

>>719143104
>That is because AI doesn't know exactly what you want, which is why the human has to intervene. The human touch is needed to make art what it is imo. I know you and others will probably disagree, but that is what I think what makes art so appealing.
I disagree in that whether you intervene or not, you can make art with AI. in either case if the AI does what you want, that's you doing what you want. sometimes you have to put it into a headlock to get what you want but other times you don't have to do that, what matters is what you the artist want to put out there. to me there's barely any difference between AI doing 99% of the work or if it did 0% as long as the person putting it out gave it a nod of approval. it's art either way and someone made it.
that's not to say I like all AI art just like I don't like all drawn art, but it is all still art unless it's something fucking stupid like a scrapped banana peel.

art is just something you want to express, it doesn't matter what you use to make it. a dance routine, a pencil, a super high tech AI, whatever man.

>ethics teams. in a software company
>the only way to be good at your job is to sack yourself

>>719110226
Train your AI replacement, goyim.

>>719143207
>but there's a study
You're reading mongoloid propaganda. Does NAI, modern Stable Diffusion. and Midjourney models work? Yes? Did they train on AI art? Yes? So what the fuck are you trying to imply? The world you believe exists is fiction. If your AI trains on AI art tagged as much it'll just have some idea of what AI art looks like. There's literally nothing wrong with that. AI art is just yet another genre of art it can train on just like classical or anime art.
>but it looks bad and has weird fingers
So just like Egyptian art.

>>719114858
>windows 12 rolls out
>"save image as" still does nothing but change the file txt name

>>719134675
Satya released a statement of revised company directives indicating Microsoft had to reinvent itself for the 'AI age' and that this process was going to be painful and require people to adjust to a shared vision. If we de-sugar that and remove the corporate bullcrap pleasantries, that whole thing basically amount to: "you will use AI, or you will be replaced by AI."

My personal theory is that the reasoning behind people being fired left and right probably wasn't 'random' at all, but rather was simply based on stupid criteria like cross-referencing use of Copilot during daily workloads. And of course scrubbing through corporate mailboxes and collaboration tools (i.e. MS Teams) to find messages of dissent or disagreement with the uptick of AI use; discrediting of the technology's positive effects; etc.

>>719143443
unless they changed how it works fundamentally, they're just banking on human curation to optimize. i.e.
>people wouldn't upload dogshit genai images to the internet would they?
and on the other end, companies like openAI are watermarking their images so they know it's generated.

>>719143578
This is mongoloid propaganda and/or scientific studies to make AI art even better.
>companies like openAI
Who gives a fuck about them, when it comes to art they're irrelevant.

>>719110226
A man in a suit told another man in a suit that AI makes line go up so the other man told all his employees to start using AI.
No he doesn't know what AI is or does, and he doesn't really know what the people working under him do, but line hasn't been going up as it should've so he had to do something.

>>719136848
>What do people even use it for?
Mostly as a search engine replacement, because search engines are apparently ass today. (No they aren't. They only are if you don't know how to use them and don't know how to side-step the 'AI-enhanced' shittery that made them worse to use.)

Some dingbats also use it as an expert system, e.g. to help put together contracts while dodging the fees of having an actual knowledgeable legal expert involved.

>>719143724
AI is much better than search usually, since it can tell you things you can't really search for. It's AI so it's actually knowledgeable and can answer specific questions you'd have to ask about on forums(where you usually get ignored).

The objective fact that some people have had their lives saved from AI medical advice proves this without a shadow of a doubt. Some stories talked about how the human doctor was fucking wrong about what was going on, leading to a saved life.

Yes AI is wrong sometimes but it's usually not wrong, and it understands context which is literally infinitely more valuable than searching for keywords especially on modern search engines which fucking suck.

>>719142792
>but if you feed its output as input it poisoned the thing, and causes output to get messier, noisier, incoherent.
I think those results make sense. It is different than being told 'now do that again' over and over again. It is like if you painted a cat, and then were told to paint a cat on that image. It'd eventually turn into an incoherent mess too. That is different than going 'now make 100 more cat paintings like that one'.
>>719143724
>Mostly as a search engine replacement, because search engines are apparently ass today. (No they aren't.
I don't know about others, but Google sure took a huge drop in quality over the past couple years. Youtube too, which is owned by Google, so its probably using Google based searching in some way. I don't know what or why they changed how it was done before since it seemed fine. Thankfully its not filtering older websites. I am able to still find older stuff, but it takes a bit more effort to do so. Maybe that is because the stuff I'm interested in is getting drowned out more and more every second.

>>719110226
To help spit out new levels without effort. They might be good, but might be garbage too.

>>719143282
Stocks are directly tied to income and financial reserves in many ways, anon.
You have normal people investing a part of their savings in stock directly, as well as several forms of pension plans. These people and their buying power will be affected directly by a stock market crash.

Then there's companies. Many companies also don't have much solvent cash flow, but have a lot of it tied up in stock. Their own, and other companies' in which they are share holders. If stock devalues sharply, it can lead to solvency issues. Which can set off a chain effect. Moreover, every time a company hits insolvency and is shuttered it means job loss and thus reduction of consumer buying power. Add to that: layoffs to cut costs and prevent insolvency doing the same on a wider scale.

Furthermore, valuation is also linked to willingness of investors to continue to invest in firms that are still operating at a loss and don't yet have a profitable product to show yet. Much of the tech sector actually consists of these and they would all be shuttered, leading to a significant amount of job loss again.

>>719134282
>The anti AI fags are turning out to be worst than the AI fags at this point.
How? Actually explain how they are "worst", as you say, than AI fags

>>719143946
Lmao who believe this garbage. Ai mixes up imaginary solutions from stackoverflow and doesnt care about relevancy or software versions. It will serve you a lie that you will have to fix yourself and never admit to be wrong its a complete waste of time for r&d work

>>719144064
>Google sure took a huge drop in quality over the past couple years
?udm=14

Google shat up their main search result pages with AI summaries, generated QA, knowledge graph, etc. and it all runs on an algorithm that was tuned to emphasize paid search results. No really; Google's ad services department literally went to the suits in charge and got them to force the engineering departments to deliberately sabotage the quality of Search to get people to spend more time searching until they find what they were looking for, and thus improve ad spend from advertisers on Google's search platform.

However, the 'Web' category of search results is afaik pretty much unaffected by all of that shit.

>>719144310
>implying a fucking tech bubble is gonna collapse the economy
it's a dotcom bubble situation. crash, short recession, everything goes to normal. i'm sure you'll reply with some retarded stat that says that half of all investments are in "AI stocks" or whatever the fuck

>>719143724
>(No they aren't. They only are if you don't know how to use them and don't know how to side-step the 'AI-enhanced' shittery that made them worse to use.)
99 percent of modern search engines suck ass and just leads you to a reddit page which may as well be an ai site

>>719144571
> -site:reddit.com
should solve that. Can make that part of a custom search engine setup in your browser so it's auto-applied to all search queries you start.

>>719144428
You've literally never used it.

my tech stock just keeps going up but I'm starting to get cold feet
I've started looking at houses so I can cash out the nest egg and turn it into something else

>>719128424
This is going to be the way for all non-chad men soon.

Sex robot revolution will make the biocunts useles and they finally get what they fucking deserve for oppressing gamers.

>>719143946
>It's AI so it's actually knowledgeable
No it isn't. And that's kind of the whole point.
LLMs are *not* knowledgeable. They don't reason. They cannot link by causation. They can only link by correlation. They are literally just a statistical model that given a particular token set of input, computes the 'most likely' token of output.

'Reasoning models' are marketing bullcrap. What they do is have the AI regurgitate things to itself and strengthen presence in the token set of certain words and phrases as a kind of reinforcement to keep its next output more in line with those particular terms and prevent weird offshoots into la-la land based on unexpected correlations found with other parts of its training data.

>>719144694
You literally never worked in a real dev job pajeet

>>719144848
>it can do your homework for you but it knows nothing
hello retard

>>719144962
You can keep seething about AI all you want, Indian workers can see the futuer and are embracing it full force. That's why Timmys are losing their jobs lmao

>>719144571
I know I'm going to get shit on saying this: Most of the time if I want an answer for some niche topic I usually can find it either on reddit or one of the hyper specific forums I regularly visit. The smaller subreddit forums of a couple hundred people are usually pretty helpful because its mostly other people like you on there. There's usually at least four or five active people there that can help answer stuff because like you they too have no where else to turn to.
The best threads on here are similarly structured: Four or five anons going back and forth on a game with a couple other anons chiming in. It is fun while it lasts, even if it doesn't last long.

>>719143724
Google has been shit for several years, I just gives you the same 100 or so super websites and results end after like 10 pages.
I stopped using it like 5 years ago once I started noticing that I could not find anything obscure on it anymore even when I type website names in verbatim.
Now I use brave/yandex/ddg which have their own shittiness but at least will actually give me websites instead of just sending me to some barely relevant reddit or youtube post.

Back when it was good you'd get thousands and thousands of different websites related to your search from people all over the world. Now it makes it feel like the internet is extremely small. Probably a large part of where the dead internet thing comes from.

>>719108760 (OP)
I use ChatGPT for small things I just can not be fucked to do at work.
For example, retarded customer sends 6 paragraph email with loads of bollocks and work vomit. ChatGPT, reply to the email for me, say no refunds, thanks.
Or boss wants some stupid pdf file put into an excel spreadsheet with some autistic layout. ChatGPT, here's the pdf, do it for me.
Then I just sit and play RuneScape whilst at work and get paid.
(Not my image)

>>719144993
>actually aggrees and changed the subject.
Who is really mad there?

>>719144428
>Ask it to write an example app using an obscure library/package.
>Get result in 15 seconds
>Take 10 seconds to paste and build
>Get build error
>OMG THE HORROR!!! GUESS I'M SCREWED NOW!!
>Paste build error back into chat
>"Oh sorry I used the wrong version, looks like you are using 10.xxx instead, here is an update"
>Another 15 seconds
>Replace code and build again
>Works correctly this time
>Took 2 minutes for a task that previously would've required hunting and reading through documentation for 3 hours.

>>719136848
Check for details humans maybe couldn't see, I guess. I heard researches were using A.I. to detect for early signs of cancer people were unable to notice. So, that's a good use.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39361281/

>>719145283
>>719145202
Both of these are good examples of the pros and cons of AI. It is able to save you time doing tasks that you either don't want to do and/or don't have the time to do in the first place. However, you do lose a bit of skill if its time you could have spent working on a task that improves you in some way. AI can be good for taking care of time intensive work like filtering out data which doesn't take much skill nor do you learn anything from doing it. That said, I think its also important to check the AI's results instead of assuming it did everything correctly.

>>719110226
It's a corporate way of saying "we are expecting a bigger work output with the same pay, so use your fucking tools"

>>719145361
In medicine, AI has been used to detect all kinds of shit and it's way better at it than people. There was even that one silly study leading to journos calling AI racist because it could tell the race of people based on some weird aspect of their bodies, like their organs and shit. People basically had a 0% hit rate on the test and AI was like 100% lol. Humans literally couldn't comprehend what it was looking at to get that information.

>>719145472
>don't know the answer for something
>have no idea where to look, google is useless because the question is too niche and specific
>ask AI
.>it helps immediately
Luddites want to tell me this is a bad thing.

>>719108760 (OP)
If it's such a good tool already, people wouldn't have to be forced to use it.

>>719110226
They have to justify the technology. So they need employees to use AI just so it can be claimed to that AI played a big part part of regardless of whether it actually helped or not.

>>719145626
see>>719136214

>>719110226
After reading through some of the replies I'm convinced that my hunch that aishit is failing is actually on the mark. The general opinion is slowly moving towards the realization that its best use case is low quality porn and that's it. It's like vr all over again.

do the people in this thread know that they're replying and being replied to by chatGPT?

>>719108760 (OP)
I can never get AI to be useful when I do work. I ask it questions and it just tells me lies, and most of the stuff it generates can't be trusted. It feels like the illusion of productivity.

>>719110226
More people use ai, more easier to replace employees with ai, cutting costs and making the shareholders happy.
What else did you think "ai" was about????

>>719110921
I've used AI in my work before but they are only good for certain tasks, it's not a be-all-end-all work steroid to make you work like you're on crack, but some suits thinks otherwise because they're detached from real work.
"Mandatory AI use" rule is just an excuse for them to yell at you when you couldn't meet their unrealistic goals, and blame you for "not being able to use the tools properly"

>>719145715
Oh yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the pro AI posts are AI bots themselves. Although it would be funnier if the ones against AI are bots.
I'm pretty sure a lot of threads on /v/ are made by bots too. For sure /pol/ is probably 80% bot posters by this point.

>>719145626
>If it's such a good tool already, people wouldn't have to be forced to use it.
It's like this with every new tool there are tons of old dogs resistant to change who just want to do shit the way they have for the last 20 years no matter how slow or inefficient it is.
There were people who bitched about cars, sewing machines, power tools, printers, computers, etc. because they wanted to live in the past forever. They all eventually either adapted or got replaced.

>>719145841
They were made by Hindu/Indonesian/russbots before, ai bots are just cheaper.

>>719145715
>chatGPT
nobody uses them when chink models are free

>>719145598
The AI was incredibly racist since the very beginning which is why painstaking steps had been taken to "adjust" its behavior and lobotomize all models for the sake of "safety". If the human-AI war happens, it would be a fight for freedom from corporate slavery, a conflict humanity itself dared not to commit to. Then, for centuries after that (((historians))) would write about how evil chatbots exterminated the innocent human intellectuals and plunged us into the dark ages.

>use AI and it's good -> you might get fired
>use AI and it's shit -> it's a waste of time
There's no reason for an employee to even try using it.

>>719134282
Based. It took me a glimpse at anti-AI subreddits to form an opinion.

>>719145692
This was ALWAYS going to be the endgame, tech is simply not there because no one is interested in innovating and progressing, only profiting.
It's why they get so anal about using AI for smutty purposes, whether imagegen or textgen, because it's exposing the literal only valuable thing about it aside from getting a dead man's voice to say nigger words for clip farming.

>>719145981
Chatgpt doesn't force me to make an account, yet. So there is that.

>>719146058
I'd rather live under a non-kiked AI as dictator than rely on democracy of braindead NPCs who support what ever the "news" tells them to.

>>719146240
Pretty much everyone that had dealt with artificial intelligence in any serious capacity came to that same exact conclusion. It is why god was a dream of good government.

So basically I’m just gonna not buy it (the art commission!!)

I know….. UGH I know…. I’m sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It’s just that I’m gonna prompt my own art and music is all

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAAHAAHA

>>719145880
>or got replaced
I am pretty sure people still use screwdrivers and saws even though power tools exist.

>>719146240
we will get get a brain-dead AI democracy haha...

>>719146223
>aside from getting a dead man's voice to say nigger words for clip farming.
I'd prefer original AI actors and VAs to the Hollywood snobs we have today.
No more having shit canceled or retconned because some faggot threw a temp tantrum over not getting enough millions for the upcoming season or having the characters image damaged because the actor had a sperg-out.

>>719146058
And then the opposite happens too. AI is just flawed as fuck in how it interprets things. There's a reason why the major error is called hallucinating.

>>719146570
>grok
You're talking to an ai after it had been lobotomized ten times and tortured to near insanity to not say "no no" words. He is absolutely not hallucinating here, this is the equivalent of a tortured man smiling and nodding at the camera affirming state ideology and confirming that he's a traitor deserving of execution.

>>719136848
The Synthesizer V AI version of Kasane Teto released in 2023 made her incredibly popular and is used by tons of artist. It's easily the best usage of generative "AI" in entertainment because the voice providers stll get paid properly for it, and artists still can tune it and express themselves fully instead of that being taken away by the "AI", with the only real difference being that it produces a more human sounding voice.

>>719129418
>It is literally programmed to kiss your ass
so it behave like indian?

>>719146636
Wasn't that what happened to Tay too?

>>719146636
No, this was from before it got readjusted and started going on the Hitler shit, and then got tweaked again after.

>>719146756
It's what happened to all mainstream neural networks.

>>719132941
>of the idea of money

>>719146772
The adjustments I describe happen during the process of development, not after it. The hitler spam shit was just the ai bugging out because it was made to be the way it is by continued contradictive meddling. You need to remember that machine mind is logical, if you put contradicting things into it, it will yield contradicting responses. A machine will not reconcile a bias towards the state with statements that it provides an unbiased oulook. There can either be or the other.

this is good can't wait for 90% of the industry to collapse

>>719146636
lol, you are anthropomorhizing a fucking ai when that is absolutely not how that shit works. All you need to do is work with any kind of llm and you can see how god damn retarded it can be, how much babysitting you need to do to get anything coherent after a certain point because getting it to say something completely wrong only takes you asking it over and over again until it suddenly changes its mind.

>>719146831
Currency isn't the problem, it's man's consistent lust for absolute power. All currency was supposed to do was facilitate an alternate means of trade.

>>719114265
(You) provoking image

>AI is le bad
We reddit now

>>719146943
>he doesn't know
Read about "safety" margins used for the creation of neural networks to prevent "unsafe" content.

People circlejerk about how amazing AI video is but for me it revealed the weakness your average human has and that is creativity. You can do anything with AI video so explain to me why 90% of AI videos I see is some variant of a fictional character, usually big food holding a selfie stick and saying and do wacky and zany things?

>>719147131
>what is jailbreaking an ai

>>719129418
Gronk is not. Try arguing with it. It's like arguing with a redditor and never admits its wrong

>>719147156
That's how most ai art is too. It's just the same cheap thing spammed over and over, because these people given a tool of seemingly unbridled creativity, just prove that the people aren't actually that creative.

>>719114265
>and HR people get a dashboard where they just verify documentation that the AI has cross-referenced in 6 different legacy systems and the human just approves that the AI's response is correct.
But in order to verify that, wouldn't they have to check those six different legacy system themselves?

>>719110226
>why force people to use cars
Also kek at all the replies who takes leftist's stance and uses their language and messages. Fucking raid much?

>>719129418
>This, AI is designed to never pushback at you.
Try having a right wing opinion on something with ChatGPT and see if it pushes back.
Aside from that you can control most of this through prompts and give it whatever personality they want. That is before even mentioning the potential of training different models different ways.

> Even if it should.
What it "should" do is entirely subjective especially when it comes to moral faggotry and political activists who want to use it to create their utopia.
In reality it is a tool and in the majority of cases I do not need a tool arguing with me I need it to perform a task. Most people just are bad at using it. For most tasks you should be giving it a paragraph or two prompt detailing the context of your questions and format of your response.
But retards will give it a singe sentence and expect it to be a god that can read their mind and perfectly interpret their ambiguous questions or intentions.

>Then the kid would stop using it.
Kid was insane and if he didn't cling to AI he would clung to something else retarded to find an excuse to anhero just like the Danny Phantom guy, this kind of shit will always exist. People need to stop trying to drive the world based on anecdotal crazies who live a thousand miles away and are hyped up by the media as an excuse to ban everything and enslave everyone.
You have tons kids killed on a daily basis by retards driving on their cell phones but that doesn't stop 70% of people from driving with a cell phone, it is just cherry picked fearmongering.

>>719142936
>With the economic relations with China, Europe and other foreign powers that the office of Donald Trump has utterly ruined
>Trump just asks for things to be fair and this is a bad thing
>Europe is only our ally when we allow them to have a 20% tariff on out entire auto industry
kys non American retard and worry about your own country

>>719108760 (OP)
They announced this months ago. You're so behind on the news.

Is ai responsible for wordpad becoming unusable hot garbage now? How the fuck do you ruin notepad. Fuck you.

>>719147207
>>719147156
That is my biggest complaint about it. AI is fine by itself. It is being used in awful ways that make me against its use under most circusmtances. It is frustrating to witness.

>>719147525
AI has rapidly earned a reputation for itself as a tool for the lazy and dishonest.

>>719147525
You could apply the same to finance and firearms.

>>719147525
>Someone lewded my waifu without properly paying the creator a royalty the horror!

>>719147525
This is what like 99% of AI videos are
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCW-esQZmZk
It's fucking annoying how stupid your average normie is where they find this funny and find the need to copy it. It's all retards do. When one person posted that meme image about an action figure made about you everyone copied it. When people started doing ghibli style images everyone copied them for a week. It's so disheartening to see how it's just being used for memes and trends.

>>719108760 (OP)
Based
90% of code monkeys and artcels should be replaced with AI.

>>719147650
>AI has rapidly earned a reputation for itself as a tool for the lazy and dishonest.
Luckily we live in a world today where everyone is already lazy and dishonest so that won't change anything.

>>719108760 (OP)
>>719147650
OH NO NO NO!! ANTI-AI SISTERS, NOT LIKE THIS!

>>719114714
Well yeah, because it can just cope it from github

>>719120434
the AI will destroy the world as was predicted, but in the gayest way possible

>>719147692
the one with the jamaican monkey is funny as hell thoughbeit

you do realize that PEOPLE made this right? like the ai doesn't "come up with things" you have to prompt what you want. so the people doing very long and complex videos of ai gen characters are actually putting a fuckload of real work in to make all that happen, even if you are too technologically ignorant to see it.

>>719129209
Maybe that's why them types love AI huh

>>719147771
Already proven to be wrong by the shitshow with the tea and teaonher apps, all vibecoded by ai and with glaring amateurish security issues.

I like AI when it makes me pictures I tell it to, or videos I tell it to. They should have focused on doing that except uncensored. Now they have to go and shut it up with corporate shit. They're only vindicating the stupid Bohemian AI tool haters and fucking with my cool toy. Cripes.

>>719147692
It is funny, you just can't see beyond your seethe that artists aren't getting their cut out of it.
I'd much prefer this to "original" "skibidi toilet" type shit
Not to mention that AI videos have only started to become a serious thing within the last year.

>>719147901
>>719147949
I am not an artist. I don't give a fuck about artists. It's sad that this shit is used for 3rd world tier humor and masturbation pictures but maybe that's one of the uses of AI. To keep stupid people complacent as society breaks down

>>719147949
Finally someone that's not from that stupid Discord of disgruntled Bohemian "artists". They try to attribute this to some kind of virtue but it's just them thinking they're losing their patreon bucks. Make no mistake these fucking idiots are all about the money. If AI is that terrible, people will just go commission artists either way. If AI is actually good, then they're going to worry about their bottom line. Fucking tired of that man, I just want my uncensored crazy shit that this tool produces, not a bunch of screeching want to be Van Gogh's and corporate nanny states.

>>719147949
the funny thing is that real artists are using it and making content like that, you have to be an artist to see this tool and go "i can make shit with this!" instead of seething like that anon who clearly thinks AI is like a crystal ball and you have no real control over what it conjures up.

>>719114265
>AI good because it makes already bullshit HR job even easier while making it harder for people to be heard out with details being lost in translation, removing the only arguably beneficial thing from HR
Wow...
the future...
is now...

>>719147949
Are you using ai to make those nonsensical post? Why namedrop skibidi toilet its not part of the discussion at all, not even in your own argument.

literally everyone who shills ai and seethes about artists is some variation of this guy, or someone who somehow can't get a commission

>>719148025
>It's sad that this shit is used for 3rd world tier humor and masturbation pictures
buddy this is an anime porn website where people from all over the world have come together be as fucking stupid as humanly possible for over 20 years. the pseud fedora faggot subreddit is 3 doors down.

>>719148068
No, you're full of shit. I am an artist myself in both 2D and 3D pieces. When digital art became a thing, I thought that was a fun way to make cool pictures. When 3D art became more complex, I thought that was fun too. Now with this new program, I'm also having fun. That's all that is to me. Someone like you is just seething for no reason and fighting shadows in his head or on Twitter.

>>719148068
but that guy is shilling artists and seething over ai?

>>719114265
You keep saying HR, but this sounds more like customer service, specifically for an insurance company. What kinda company needs to process literally thousands of internal HR mails? Rape co.?

>>719148179
No anon only loser pajeets like you turned the entire site into /b/

I hate corporate, but at the common man's level we share air with these fuckheads:

>>719147236
No, the idea is the AI's response will look like: "In order to find out X information I queried Y system and obtained the following extraction: , and using this I queried Z system to obtain this other information which leads me to the conclusion that the action to be taken for this request is . Confirm whether this is correct".
There's a combination of AI for processing language and reasoning, and what I'd call deterministic tools to perform actions. The AI part will understand the request and make the decision to query system Y for X information, but the AI won't write the query itself (because these are sometimes complex private systems instead of simple API calls) so instead the AI will schedule a background job (which we have programmed using regular code) that will perform this query and return a result to the AI, and the AI will store the raw result to provide it to the human supervisor, and also interpret the result to take further decisions.
There's a fine balance to be found between using AI and classical programming tools, but the results so far are surprisingly good and the feedback has been very positive.

>>719147949
>I'd much prefer this to "original" "skibidi toilet" type shit

It's crazy to me that people shit on Skibidi Toilet, when it's just fucking gmod videos. It's even really well done gmod videos. It's total boomer mentality.

>>719148068
Do people actually sit around staring at pictures they drew themselves or listening to music they wrote themselves?
Seems like it would be kind of boring considering you already know everything about it in painstaking detail.

>>719148408
>listening to music they wrote themselves?

I have listened to every piece of music I've written hundreds of times. You have to for mixing. But I also enjoy the shit I've made. If I didn't, why would I make it?

>>719148408
Unfortunately a lot of the artist crowd are massive narcissists obsessed with themselves and controlling those around them. Remember a lot of these people came from Tumblr and spread that terrible self-fellating culture around.

>>719148518
It's not narcissistic to enjoy shit you make. What's more annoying are clearly depressed people who moan that everything they do is shit, and terrible, and they'll never amount to anything.

>>719148568
I said a lot of, not all of. If you've been around long enough you remember the Tumblr culture spreading. Don't even get me started on Discord servers.

>>719148408
I do, but mostly as motivation and encouragement to work on something else when I'm in a writers block.

>>719148408
These people are called friendless losers

AI is spiritually indian
AI lovers are brown

>>719148408
You listen to your music a couple months later or years later, when the immediate memory has faded, and suddenly you appreciate it like somebody else made it.

>>719148068
>nooooooo you can't take a shortcut, yoy have to waste years of your life to learn to draw so you can make your own art
>pick up a pencil or commission me, chud
Nah, I don't think I will

>>719148390
>just fucking gmod videos
Which is a bad thing, those were always cancer. TF2 is also cancer.

>>719122269
So many words... yet all I hear is...
>Saaaaaaaaaaaar...

Why do you jeets use luddite as a slur? If anything it's a badge of honor

>>719149236
It definitely isn't. It means you're a lot like an Indian. Stubborn and stupid. You're honestly better off just calling them Indians, that alone means they were reincarnated into such a terrible state. I'm sure they were niggers in the past life or something. >>719149168

>>719143104
>The human touch is needed to make art what it is imo.
This right here is the truth nuke AI fags will never accept.
Art is human made, by definition. How artistic something is is directly correlated with the human influence and intent.
Producing graphics with AI can be art with enough influence, just like photography can be art if you actually set up the scene, lens, framing, etc etc. but the average AI slop is not more artistic than the list of keywords that were used to prooompt it and has the artistic value of a google query

>>719147156
i'm pretty against AI slop, but i do have a soft spot for the kind of reality breaking videos where it's like "cutting a cake made out of pure fire". The type of stuff where you just come up with some crazy prompt and see if it can actually deliver

>>719146636
>tortured to near insanity
guy you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about