Thread 719127059

>try to do shit I used to do in the original mgs3
>game deliberately prevents your freedom when fucking with the guards just so I can follow it's new arbitrary rules that hurts the flow.
it's neither mgs3 or mgsv, it's like a bastardization of both without understanding the mechanics. It's not even MGS3D or PW with its freedom. idk wtf happened but something was clearly lost in translation.
I can put up with the framerate, the art direction, but this change has ruined it for me. I'm glad I got it for free. I hope modders fix this somehow in the future cause it's making this remake extremely dull and straight forward. It's Unreal so it should be easy to fix through a mod I hope.
These devs are clearly not up for the task or don't get mgs, yet

>>719127059 (OP)
Wait are you serious? Like what?

>>719127059 (OP)
Example?

>>719127059 (OP)
>>719127197
Like what anon?

>>719127059 (OP)
I just killed so many enemies with a shotgun and knife. They just kept respawning infinitely.

Then I killed Ocelot and it gave me a "Time Paradox"

Idk what was in the PS2 game lol

yet it's still far better than amazon jizz delivery stranding.

Reminder:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWPpEBXMC_E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le23bsVURds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWmrzwWclzE

They took this from you.

>>719127197
>>719127509
>>719127526

nta, I just finished the virtuous.

The cqc mechanics are fucked, if you wanted to grab a guard in the original game the action was done in an instant, in the remake however there's a small delay in everything you do, from CQC to even grabing a body to drag him around. Everything is slowed down in favor of the new shitty animations.

>>719128494
>hold up guard
>knock him out with cqc
>kick him 3 times
>wakes up
>aim gun at him
>snake doesn't say freeze while he's on the floor
>guard gets up
>FREEZE!
????

>cqc guard to the floor without knocking him out
>aim at him
>FREEZE!
>can now hold him up on the floor
????????

>hold up guard on the floor in a place where another guard will see him to lure him to the guard on the floor
>sneak behind him
>wait for him to help wake his buddy up so I can freeze both at the same time
>FREEZE!
>only 1 one of them holds their hands up
????????????

bump

Kojima has my sympathy because you niggers are annoying as fuck. Cant imagine dealing with you guys for decades

>>719129350
are you op?
i still want to know what he meant by arbitrarily fucking with your freedom with the guards.
i can handle getting used to something like but if you mean shit like fucking with their supplies, radios, or throwing animals at them is out or gets interacted with differently im going to be pissed off
whats making it worse than 3d or peace walker?

bump

Holy hell crouching really does make this game easy as hell, it almost breaks the game

>>719132143
nta, but op is retarded.
you can do a lot of things that were present in the original, but i dont know if you can do literally everything from the original since i havent played enough (ive been focusing on doing every achievement)

>>719132143
OP is baiting. Just download the game and try it out for 2 hours then refund. Nothing's changed.

>>719133930
not bait, it's true

>>719134086
I've played it for more than 2 hours, lots has changed under the hood, and not for the better

>>719128494
That's my only complaint. It's like you could teleport an enemy off the ground into your arms in an instant in the original but now there's this whole "gotta flip the body into the right position for it to look okay for me to hold" animation before the actual hold.

It's my only complaint so far are some of the animations feel drawn out or delayed

>buying a remake
what were you expecting?

>>719134526
Be specific with what changed for the worse then.

>>719127059 (OP)
>>719129350
I'm for all for calling out the remake for breaking shit when there's cases of that but don't give the original a pass on being retarded in the first place.

From MGS2 to MGS3 they made guards psychic, and a single guard in isolation will start an instant alert on spotting you without radioing in.

MGS3 guards do practically no damage even on the highest difficulties. This is compared to MGS2 where not only did guards do good damage, you bleed and they send well scripted and realistic CQB teams with shields to look for you.

High difficulties in MGS3 are actually easier in most cases because it's easier to pull guards one by one and cheese them without getting close to them at all. They don't radio that they are investigating a sighting or seek a buddy first.

>>719133845
Why? Does it give a high camo bonus in grass or something stupid? I don't remember there being a lot of desk height cover in mgs3

Delta troons???

Love the shitposting campaign for this game yet when people complained about RE4 remake being soulless fucking less detailed dogshit you had people saying it was the greatest thing ever

>>719134526
I've played 4 hours and nothing has changed. In fact things were added and gotten better.
btw afk unless im bumping my thread, my boss said any engagement is good engagement and ill get to keep the game for free anyway

>>719135271
>yet when people complained about RE4 remake being soulless fucking less detailed dogshit you had people saying it was the greatest thing ever
That's because gamers are stupid.

>>719135542
More like Crapcom is a tranny westernized company now and have legit shills here promoting their crappy games now

>>719135105
it does actually, in general it gives you an overall boost to your camo, not just in grass, I "think" you even move the same speed crouched as you do standing, so the trade off isn't there for those close quarter's areas, I'll take a screen shot

>>719135105
>standing you go from 10 to 0 when moving
>crouching you go from 40 to 30 when moving
>speed is almost identical
it's borderline broken imo

How do you change the tittle screen to the old style?

Can you still sleep a guard by shooting once and then rolling over?
Can you still silence your footsteps by cooking a grenade?

>>719128059
I see u didn't play MGS1

Seems they added a radio filter to the codec calls. Im not sure why they thought that was necessary

>>719133845
I think its fine, if you pair it with playing on Extreme plus the tranq drops off fucking HARD compared to the original. Yeah its absolutely easier but not so much its boring like say Max Payne 3 vs Max Payne 1+2

And they added a compass with yellow objective marker. And lots of pop up tutorial messages, I hope you can disable all those

>>719128494
skill issue

>>719134086
> 2 hours

You know that it doesnt have denuvo right?

>>719138459
>I hope you can disable all those
you can disable almost all of the hud elements

Why can't I use the subsistence camera with original controls?
Why can't I lean anymore?

>>719137690
I don't know on the shoot roll but the grenade trick definitely got fixed

He feels so sluggish shits annoying. I hate his "run" too it looks like a light jog.

Does Delta have TTS syndrome? Is everything easier than in OG MGS3 cuz of the newer mechanics?

>>719128401
mgs 3 and 5 are imsims and no one can convince me otherwise

>>719140242
and thats a good thing

Tactical reloads still work, that's the only quirk I had time to check.
I'm most curious if the Fear quick kill still works. Going to be funny if speed runners actually have to fight that guy now.

>>719141375
I dont think the fear trick works anymore

>>719135159
>not appreciating the manzai standup routine where the guard says silly shit and snake elbows him in the gut each time

>>719140231
some bosses are extremely easy thanks to the new controls

How are you anons playing? Are you going non-lethal only? CQC only? This game reminds me of something that makes me mad in MGS games: it encourages non-lethal but also gives you 500 lethal guns on the way and only 2 non-lethal guns (with 1 only near the end of the game), for what reason?

Replaying this game is making me realize I have a shitty mindset for video games. The game feels easy so I feel bad when I use the tranq gun or even camo it feels like "cheating", I'm trying to play CQC only crouching only like a retard and it's stressful, as a kid I just tranq pistol'd everyone in my way and felt like a god, why can't I go back to simpelr times.

>>719127059 (OP)
So far all guards are in the exact same number and routes I remember in the original. When you have to wipe out Ocelot's unit the last one is always that one faggot by the side of the warehouse that made me search for way too long, once again just like in the original (oh and one in the roof)

>>719128059
>Then I killed Ocelot and it gave me a "Time Paradox"
That's exactly how the original is.

>>719136262
Crouch seems like a noob trap

In this game you either want to move as quickly as possible (standing), or you want to be invisible (prone), or you want to be silent (slow walking)

If you are crouching you are trying to do two of these at the same time which means you will half-ass them and probably get noticed.

>>719143321
For me so far an issue is that it's triggering MGS5 muscle memory since they feel so similar. Crouch walking serves a good purpose in 5 unlike here where like you say it's a trap.

>>719133845
it has always been easy as hell

>>719143491
Yeah I think the main difference is that because MGS5 is open world if a guard notices you and decides to investigate, you have a lot of room to keep moving, and you can also do that move where you jump on your belly that is super OP

This game has really tight levels, if a guard decides to investigate in your direction it's hard to maneuver around it

>>719143160
if you really want to suffer you can try a "ghost" run, pretty much have the enemy never be aware of your presence outside of scripted sections

>>719143824
A fun mistake I keep making I keep trying to dash, where this not only hasn't have dash, the dash button is for stalking.

>>719143824
>you can also do that move where you jump on your belly that is super OP
>TFW abused the fuck out of it on FOB
It's going to be a common mistake isn't it?

>>719135105
The game was balanced around moving at standing height, or crawling around. When you have the ability to move about as fast as standing, but having a good amount of extra camo index in a halfway point to crawling, you can skirt by enemies a lot easier than the game was intended to be. This carries for the third person shooter mechanics too; it's why they introduced bullet drop to the tranqs in New Style so that not only does it feel more like MGSV, but so that players don't just run and gun with absurd precision like OG/Legacy gives you for tranq shots being like laser beams, but it still doesn't stop a competent player from utterly destroying everything in their path with mobility Snake was never meant to have for this game.

I can't really say I hate it like some people because hey, the original exists, Master Collection exists, Legacy Style exists, so it's not like I have to go bitching about a new take on things, but it makes me dread the concept of them adding a New Style to MGS2. Snake and Raiden being able to TPS run and gun, plus a more dynamic camera, would functionally break that entire game's balance.