Thread 719130175

>>719130175 (OP)
Modern shooters are a fucking disgrace

>move tech in quake
:D
>move tech in any other FPS
>:(

i mean, yeah? just gitgud? he managed to do it so why can't you? skill issue? perchance.

>>719130175 (OP)
I had a good laugh. You don't have to play that.

>>719130319
Based

Get with the times millennial cucks it's like crying over bunny hopping

wypipo dont tech ther fps

movement tech is only acceptable if it looks cool

if it looks like retarded faggotry then people will call it out as such

>>719130175 (OP)
ADMIN HE DOING IT SIDEWAYS

>boomer fps
rocket jumps, bunnyhopping, wall running
>zoomer fps
you can slide or something

>scoots around you with his ass at Mach speed and shoots you
heh, nothing personnel

>>719130175 (OP)
THROUGH IVY

>>719130319
Did rocket jumps and shit change your hitbox in quake?

>>719130710
LIKE A SPEED DEMON

>>719130390
thoughever

>>719130767
>Slides around like a faggot six feet away instead of five
>Can't be stopped

>>719130749
dunno. did crouching?

>>719130319
>hitscan weapons
Sit down

>>719131114
dunno. did moving?

this video is 19 years old
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51MRK9kJ2G0

>>719130319
Ummm no you see when my oldslop does it, it's le heckin le based

this dude is literally hacking though

what the fuck are those animations bro who finds this enjoyable

>>719131448
so it would seem. quake is officially zoomershit.

>>719130319
In my opinion the problem is
1.slides look fucking retarded
2. feel clunkier to play than bunny hopping or explosive boosting

>>719130175 (OP)
The speed is fine the issue is it fucks up your hitbox so it's dumb.
Like >>719131573
completely fucks up the players hitbox for some reason.

>>719130175 (OP)
adapt or die nigga

adapt or die

>>719131951
such a shame.

>>719130175 (OP)
>gee do you think we should put a cool down on sliding it looks fucking retard
lol

>>719132129
gg no re.

prone is pointless to put in a shooter, it fucks your hitbox up way too much. crouch is enough.

>>719132180
never forget

>>719131114
quake doesn't even have crouching

>>719132087
the part no one seems to mention is that with bunny hopping and similar old movement tech (e.g. tribes skiing), the faster you're going, the LESS physical input you're actually doing. e.g. sure the look angle changes, but that's specifically a gradual curve you follow, and you're actually pressing less keys while you're in the air for longer between jumps. it's mechanically the exact opposite of spamming crouch slides or whatever in every direction at once (this is also a big difference, those movement techniques aren't omnidirectional outside of Q1 air strafing, you're committing to going faster in a specific direction and not going 0 to 100 like it's a fucking Bethesda game)

>>719130175 (OP)
ADS ruined all FPS.

>>719132442
I like crouching under rockets in the game

>>719130319
lmao they're performing mental gymnastics to solve their cognitive dissonance

>>719130580
this

>>719130679
kek

I don't play these games, is that actually how the game looks, everyone scooting sideways like they've got wheels on their ass?

>>719132541
ADS should literally just be a zoom key, optionally reducing sensitivity, it should not affect accuracy or slow your movement speed.

>>719131114
>crouching
>quake
amazing self report, you disingenuously arguing nigger faggot

>>719132442
nobody thinks quake 1 when they think of quake arenas

>>719132715
>>719132442
I am glad i wasn't miss remembering. I thought there wasn't but wasn't 100% since the dementia is hitting in.

>>719132715
once again, refer to
>>719132801

>>719132654
you might see one guy like this in 5 games
it takes alot of effort to play like that and it's not fun

>>719132572
Omg you should put them in chastity cages and throw away the keys

why is /v/ full of shitters? are you niggers so old you can't react to that?

>>719130319
It really do be like that

>>719132715
>>719132442
>>719132806
Why do Quakefags always expose themselves as never playing the games they jerk off about?

>>719130319
they always remove it cause it makes casuals cry and quit the game. its like when you get shit stomped in a fighting game and you just know the skill gap is insurmountable.

>>719133431
It looks retarded, that is the problem

>>719130175 (OP)
>Trying to be a fast movement shooter while understanding fuck all about movement shooters
what a goddamn nightmare

>>719133803
What's with /v/fags and being self defeatist faggots?

>>719130319
>zoomie assblasted because they don't understand why prone and movement don't mix well

>>719130175 (OP)
zoomers will never ever ever ever ever play movement shooters, thank god titanfall is dead lmao that shit sucks anyways

>>719133964
titanfall is just cod with shit wallrunning.
also Tribes is better designed in terms of momentum than titanfall is.
titanfall is like if you enabled bhop cheats in cs2 lol.

>>719133695
it's been 30 years, do you really expect them to have good memory after so long?

>3x flash grenades/shock sticks
>2x molotovs
>Whatever the AK is called in this piece of shit game
>Explosive launcher as secondary
>Constantly diving when it isn't strategically viable
>UAV, Counter UAV, Spyplane
The fun ends for everybody who slides.

>>719130175 (OP)
>vanquish

>>719133906
the vast majority quit when they lose in fighting games. there is no cope in a 1 on 1. in shooters they just add magic powers and make the TTK 5 seconds and remove all movement tech and make the maps into a hallway.

>>719134269
>there is no cope in a 1 on 1.
There was times I clearly hit the guy and nothing happened

>>719130679
This actually needs to be an enemy in a boomer shooter, would be kino. he stops every once in a while and whines because his bum hurts and that's the opening.

Is this shit COD, Battlefield or some other FPS? I legit can't tell since they all look the same shit and all of them has this zoomzoom, zoomer movement

>>719134269
>there is no cope in a 1 on 1
LOL

>they're removing movement 'tech'
>also nerfing shotguns or something
I'll take it

>>719134168
wtf how are they doing that?

>>719134483
Strong magnet at the top of the stairs.

>>719134040
cs2 is if you enabled bhop cheats in cs2 actually lol

>>719134269
lmao the exact same predictable defeatist response.

>>719134346
black ops 6

>>719130175 (OP)
This is why BF1 and V sucked ass, people abusing the shit spam

I find it easier to kill slide tards in slidetard games but I struggle so much with games where you are slow like Halo 3 multiplayer. I don't know why

a cooldown would have solved all this

>>719135193
whose gonna tell him

>>719136126
me

>>719131332
Hitscan weapons take skill.
Projectile spam relies on luck

>>719130175 (OP)
I wish real life modern warfare looked like this instead of gay drone bullshit

>>719130175 (OP)
I fucking hate COD/Battlefield games so much it's unreal

just has a good gamer chair

>>719139273
kek

>>719139301
that watermark fucking flashbanged me

>>719134483
Its recorded underwater

>>719130319
>Move tech in Quake
Takes skill
>Move tech in these ADHD zoomershooters
They just bind the Crouch, Sprint, and Jump sequence to a keyboard macro software all their Razer keyboards offer that spams it over and over when they hold space. They aren't doing anything skillful, they're just holding space while their keyboard software does the button spamming

>>719139692
>shooting the ground is a skill

>>719139716
they could just have jetpacks instead really

Call of duty has always had movement tech.
cod4 (bouncing, strafing)
waw (snaking)

>>719141773
>always
>4
Fuck you

>>719141773
>strafing
uhhh...

>>719141773
this, stupid chuddy chuds complaining over a feature that was always in cod

>>719130259
https://youtu.be/DwDLity0h9U?t=165

>>719133695
you are retarded, quake/quakeworld did not have crouching. next youll say doom have vertical mouselook

>>719141773
cod4 bouncing is so fun and you could basically do that shit in battlefield 6 beta boomers should die for getting that shit patched out it was fun

>>719139301
>That watermark
>That gameplay
And here I thought blops2 mlg montage was already too gay.

>>719139273
its... what now? say that again?

>>719142493
doom was 100% improved with vertical mouse look. might as well say color TV was a regression from black and white right?

>>719142493
So quakefags who jerk off about quake 3 suddenly are never talking exclusively about it?

>>719142718
>quake doesn't have crouching
>yes it does!
>quake doesn't have crouching
>but it would have been better if it did!
ok?

why dont the zoomers just play gunz

>>719142887
i expect that if you are a fan of a game you say which game you are referring to. quake has bunnyhopping, quake 2/3 have strafejumping. they are similar but they aren't the same games. a fan of the series is knowledgeable enough to at least specify what game they like. there are enough differences to warrant that. quake 1 doesn't have railgun, it doesn't have the same item system (mega only starts respawn timer after the person who has it loses it and red armor blocks more damage than green armor), the games don't even share the same themes. why would you talk about quake 3/live without specifying

>>719139301
>watermark

>>719142889
if horizontal mouse look was so good, why don't modern games use it?
you seem to realize that i'm right about quake innovating to freelook and you are trying to change the argument.

>>719143029
Because quakefags don't actually play the games and just want to act superior.
Much like Third Strike or old Guilty Gear. The fanbase is built around the illusion of being hardcore.

>>719130175 (OP)
>>719139301
it's insufferable. At least the old movement in games made sense. This is just ADHD spam where they get a benefit for spamming since all the animations drastically fuck with the player model. And all the movement is creating momentum from thin air so there's no downside to spamming it. Worst yet is this inherently benefits controller players more since the game does all the work for their aim. All you have to do is know which 160-180 degree turn you have to do after you've rocketed past someone and aim assist will lock you in even when you would have fucked up the turn. It all seems like an insane oversight that has gone on for too long.

>>719132540
yeah in modern shooters they nerf your movement than patch it back in with button bloat.
in quake everything is available with just wasd, jump and shoot

adhd movement should be a microtransaction. i want to see these zoomzoom shitters put themselves into debt with their nonsense.

>>719143102
literally all i said was that quake didn't have crouching. that is what the reply chain is about

csgo3 needs a grappling hook

>>719133146
>Quakefag fantasy
https://www.youtube.com/@aimergf

>>719143571
why? you can just take the stairs or use a ladder

>>719130175 (OP)
For the boomers who don't know about OP's game: it's called "omni movement" which was introduced in Black Ops 6. The movement in BO6 allows you to sprint (forward, backward and sideways) AND slide (forward, backward and sideways) in any direction. People who are good at the game will break your ankles, and take a massive fucking shit on your head, especially if they're on controller with aim assist.

>>719134483
moon runes

>>719143960
>sprint backwards and slide
you can already do that since tf2, 20 years ago

>>719143571
It would be cool if they gave you certain skills with a cooldown in CS. Maybe one big one if you did well enough or played long enough

>DOOM 3
>Bioshock 1/2
>Left 4 Dead 1/2
>FEAR 1/2/3
>COD 4/MW2
>Halo 1/2/3
>Half Life 2/CS/TF2

WHERE DID IT ALL GO SO WRONG
YOU WERE MY PERFECT FRIEND
RIGHT THERE UNTIL THE END
I'LL BE FOREVER MISSING YOU UNTIL WE MEET AGAIN

>>719130175 (OP)
our navy seals do this regularly irl you just have skill issue

>>719130175 (OP)
>we want boots on the ground gameplay none of that jetpack shit
fuckers wanted ass on the ground gameplay by the looks of it

>>719139301
Looks like a mde.tv sketch

>>719139301
the zoomer equivalent of the engie webm

>>719142995
even playing field, zoomers play cod because there's another consoletard (and/or boomer) on the other end that can't do much, if they play gunz, they will find another gunz-ite and die

>>719139692
bhopping is the easiest shit in the world, what are you on about
>hold w+a/d
>jump
>jump again the moment you hit the ground
>repeat
>crouching during jumps optional, depends on the game
and besides, people sucked the skill out of bhopping by the time Q3/CS came around by binding jump to the scroll wheel so all you had to do was hold w+d, continuously scroll and look in the direction you wanted to go

>>719145814
cos pressing spacebar at the right time isnt skill to begin with, thats just shit controls design. holding space should just make u jump when u hit the ground.

>>719130319
>:D
nope
quake is and always has been trash

>pvp Max Payne

Where do I sign up?

Uncs can't keep up. Maybe stick to playing your boring single player games.

>>719145814
You don't hold forward while bhopping in source games though unless you're trying to bhop sideways

>>719143029
Because nobody plays quake 1 multiplayer?

>>719130175 (OP)
Why did people refuse to play Titanfall?

>>719132551
FUCK

>>719130319
Are you implying that Quake is a popular franchise today or something?
There's maybe a hundred boomers worldwide still playing those games, combined.

>>719148351
ppl just play TF2 because its free
idk why ppl still sell 20 year old games, must be low iq developer or jewish

>>719130175 (OP)
>do all this retarded shit
>only kill one person and die

> being bad an bibeogame
*laughs in catgirl*

>>719143102
>quake innovating to freelook
uhm ackshully, I believe free look was disabled by default and you had to enable it either by binding a key to "mouse look" while held or going to the console and force it to be like "always held"
I also believe they still had vertical auto aim just like doom but don't quote me on that as I'm less sure

>>719130319
>Move tech against people also move teching to get your untrained zoomer ass
>:(
>Move tech against 40 year old who is catching up on his multiplayer game after a whole ass week of working.
>:D I'm so good watch me r/movement community im transbtw!!!

>>719130175 (OP)
What game is this?

>>719130175 (OP)
.

>>719142995
ktsyling is fun but building a whole game around it is ehh.
also the last time i played gunz, nobody manually does it anymore, everyone just macroed it sending the servers billions of packets per second which ridiculously lags the server.

higher movement speed is good
spraying hitscan weapons are still 0 skill

>>719139716
preserving your momentum and rocket jumping in the direction you actually intend to go takes skill, yes
people used to practice for fucking hours to get it down
and using the tech had a clear and obvious downside that slowly chipped away at your stack and could fuck you hard in engagements if you did it too much

>>719149743
That's the cycle, man. First it was air-strafing in Q3, then surfing in CS, then Titanfall wallrunning, now it’s every other indie parkour shooter with some hype TikTok edit. All of it used to mean something until people started injecting identity politics into input lag and trickjumping tutorials. Just let games be goofy kinetic playgrounds again and stop turning every niche mechanic into a clout grind.

>>719130175 (OP)
The problem isn't the movement in itself per say, we had crazy shit going on in Quake back in the days too, no, the issue is that modern games have absolutely terrible hit reg / hit detection / tickrate / animations and whatnot making said movement completely broken to fight against for TECHNICAL reasons.

Thread ends here.
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>>719130175 (OP)
is the floor soap or something? slides are ok but covering that much distance with almost no inertia is ridiculous

>>719130175 (OP)
>armored core but easier

>the faggot with 5 cheats running at the same time and sliding in this video will say that he’s better than you
Can we just start killing nigger chinks and Arabs at this point?

>>719130319
Not even remotely the same because you can slide and do a 360 while jumping to avoid aim assist from players who don’t cheat. That’s the whole point of doing this slide garbage to cancel the auto lock on
It’s a dead giveaway that someone’s a cheater if they do this crap

>>719132540
Half the faggots on Tribes were cheating don’t act like they weren’t

>>719152570
>>719152738
post some of your gameplay

>>719130175 (OP)
We all know threads like this are made by boomers that can't keep up with younger players anymore and try to blame their lack of skill onto the games.

>>719152781
I’m not that Anon. Post a picture of your festering axe wound Riley

>>719149869

Jej

>>719130710
>>719130778
came here to post this and was beaten to it

>>719149748
Fallout 4

>>719153604
lmao?

>>719130319
I don't want every game to be quake. How hard is that to understand?

Some sort of resource like stamina that actions like this are tied to could solve this

>>719130319
No one plays quake, it just has that old mysticism and name surrounding it.

>>719130175 (OP)
this looks fucking retarded he is sliding on his ass all over the place in all directions
wtf is this shit? neck zoomers.

Heh, I remember when bunnyhopping used to make all the millennials upset back in the early 00s just like this when it was new. But then it became solidified as "fun and high skill" move tech and they stopped whining. Only the old genX farts that couldn't adapt anymore kept whining after that.

The more things change the more they stay the same.

>>719147193
underrated

>>719134483
salty coins and sandbags

>>719139301
>Semen meter

Movement tier list
>S tier
Rocket Jumping
Grappling Hooks
>A tier
Portals
Double Jumps
Slides when they account for physics and require momentum (ala the finals/apex)
>B tier
Wall runs
>C tier
Jet Packs
Jump Pads
Vaulting
>dog shit doodoo tier
Crouch slides out the ass

>>719134483
it's a guy wearing a cat costume

>>719130319
1. quake isn't a twitch shooter, theyre both arcade shooters, but not twitch shooters
2. movement in quake isnt just sliding around everywhere, its about utilizing rocket jumps and other such tactics, most of which reduce your health and take your eyes off the target. It also doesn't shrink your hitbox down since there is no prone or slide
3. Most of Quakes weapons aren't hitscan
4. Quake isn't a "grounded" shooter, it's a fantasy game with lighting rifles
5. Quake is and has been dead for like 20 years (quake live wasn't a Quake game)
6. Quake doesn't have aggressive as hell aim assist

i do not like crouch sliding

>>719153909
I fired it up yesterday, gfy

>>719155331
>movement in quake isnt just sliding around everywhere, its about utilizing rocket jumps and other such tactics, most of which reduce your health and take your eyes off the target. It also doesn't shrink your hitbox down since there is no prone or slide
That's bullshit and you would've known it if you actually ever grinded quake mp. ABSOLUTELY NO ONE above certain skill level uses this shit because surprise surprise, moving an almost straight line, regardless of your speed is a bit shit for your survivability. Open random Quake live tournament on youtube and count the amount of rocketjumps. I doubt it's more than one or two per vod. Quake movement meta is moving as erratically as possible while keeping relatively high speed. It is in no way different from cod movement meta.

>>719130319
>good movement mechanics
:D
>bad movement mechanics
>:(

AFPS movement was largely inertial and used limited, precise and planned movements to achieve high speed and move in different ways.
This is just slamming on buttons to fly off with instant acceleration in random directions. It's not tech being used to move, it's tech being used to dodge shots. Quake movement mechanics wouldn't stop you being shot, whereas it's the only purpose of this "movement tech".

You could go further and point to this only existing because of the aim assist they've given everyone, meaning landing every shot is piss easy unless the players can fly off in random directions.

>>719151843
>surfing in CS
How is it related to the rest of the comment? It's fairly innocuous.

>>719156031
You have literally never played a duel in your fucking life. Moving around the map fast is hugely important, in and of itself.
The guy's retarded for pretending rocket jumps are that common, but no, nothing in Quake is even vaguely equivalent to COD style instant acceleration and hitbox minimization. Nor can you move significantly erratically in the immediate term. A huge part of Q3 is the fact that you CAN'T avoid a competent player with an LG, whereas no movement will leave you dead to a rocket launcher.

>>719130319
sippybippy
it's unreal that faggots are complaining about movement and skill expression in shooters now

>>719130175 (OP)
You can thank sweats and streamers who take the game too seriously for stuff like that.

>>719148928
ywnbaw

>>719130319
>bhopping (requires real skill to perform)
>rocket jumping (requires precision and costs health)
>sliding (press a single button and you become a ballerina)
whenever i see zoomers on this board i regret being born after 1996

>>719130319
>traverse a map in ways otherwise impossible
:D
>move somewhere you could go anyway, but look really stupid doing it
:(

Ask yourself why the movement in Titanfall was so praised.

>>719132442
Quake 4 did, and its mp has sliding in it too.

>>719145814
>hold w+a/d
that's not how it works in source games. even if it was that simple, that's still more inputs than sliding in Call of Zoomie

>>719130175 (OP)
it's funny that we didn't get titanfall movement in apex legends because devs thought players didn't like not understanding from where they were being shot, then you see this clip and you wonder where the fuck did it all go wrong

>>719130175 (OP)
>jumps out of window
>glass doesn't break
Is this "just" some weird fuckery going on with replays? MW2 had breakable glass in 2009. How much money was spent to make this game? How much are they charging for it? Hello?

>>719159045
Normies don't give a shit and the devs don't do either

>>719134483
T E N E T

Looks pretty dope

>>719130175 (OP)
>Controller players
lolmao

>>719130319
zoomers really believe this and think anyone should care about what they like.

>>719155481
>gfy
Huh gfy I've never heard of that before what does that m-
Oh

>>719149743
lol real
>le ebin move tech
>while using a VPN and alt account to play against the lowest MMR cambodian child on a smartphone internet connection
just like my favorite streamer who is popular because he is good at the game

>>719134168
>zoomers be like yo this gameplay is FIRE

>>719130175 (OP)
>spaz of duty

>just spend 3000 hours on a videogame to get good, bro
Nah no thanks. I have W O R K and B I L L S need to be paid. Unless you'll be the one paying them.

only get gud game im playing rn is splatoon 3

>>719139301
>tranny looking version of the kingdom hearts logo pops up in the middle of the video
Is this MK Ultra what the fuck is this??

>>719130175 (OP)
titanfall 2 somehow has less spergy movement lol

>>719149748
Call of Battlefield: Titan Craft 6

>>719159034
Titanfall 2 could be frustrating but it still had less cheating/fuckery than whatever the fuck Black Ops 6 and Battlefield has becomes. I could run on walls and kill into anything.

>>719130175 (OP)
>Tony Hawk's Pro Shooter
Someone please make it happen for real.

>>719151954
The problem is that a real human cant move like this so it being in a school shooter trainer makes no sense when these are just supposed to be normal soldiers

>>719161012
>school shooters
Bvvo Bvvo, yovr crime statistics?

>>719161439
Im sorry i dont speak retard
Can someone translate

>>719139301
my eyes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2wyWPBRfxY

>>719158323
it's always the ones that can't replicate the mechanics that claim it would be really easy if they tried

I thought this board loved Vanquish.

This is why I always play noobtube, the rage when this faggots get killed by a stray

>>719133803
Kind of related, but I hate how devs are always fixing bugs that are fun, even in single player games.

>>719130319
except Quake didnt have hitscan wepons or simulacrum of real guns. Having space aliens jumping around at mach1 is one thing, compared to regular soldiers sliding around at 100mph with perfectly accurate guns

>>719164083
>except Quake didnt have hitscan weapons
your mg, shotty, railgun and (technically) lg anon?

>>719154209
>But then it became solidified as "fun and high skill" move tech and they stopped whining
Massive cope. They stopped "whining" because everyone moved on from your shitty game with shitty movement mechanics. AFPS is dead and you're the one who's whining about it all the time. Cry more bitch. That surely will bring it back one day.

>>719130319
TRVTH NVKE

>>719130319
Why are zoomers so attracted to the most retarded, faggy shit? Skibidi toilet, brocoli hair, this retarded looking gameplay. What's going on?

>>719166812
Zooms are braindead. Duh

>>719144038
>allows you to sprint (forward, backward and sideways) AND slide (forward, backward and sideways) in any direction
TF2 doesn't allow you to do ALL of that, zoomer.

>>719130319
No one plays Quake.
No one gives a shit about Quake.
Its a dead game from a dead genre.

>>719130319
>do some insane retarded shit in Quake
>you either need to perfectly track your target for 3 seconds while you do it OR perfectly snap your target
>it looks intended and doesn't annihilate the animations
>also everyone is a monster/space marine

>do insane retarded shit in CoD
>they die in a literal instant because every gun has .1 second ttk
>it looks like your model is just magically sliding everywhere like you're made of zero-friction material and weigh 24 lbs
>completely clashes with the "photorealistic" "artstyle"

shut the fuck up faggot

>>719130175 (OP)
jesus.