Thread 719134415

Why aren't you playing it?
>better than minecraft
>realistic survival mechanics like seasons
>indepth building, cooking, brewing, beekeeping

i play minceaft for the whimsy, not realism

>>719134415 (OP)
Minecraft but worse.

It's boring

>>719134415 (OP)
>Play game 2 years ago
>OK
>Limited content.
>Check now
>Spent the past 2 years doing nothing but shitty lore updates and adding pointless bullshit like butterflies and flowers.

>>719134415 (OP)
I was killed by a bear three times in a row and haven't picked it up since. Also took me too long to find clay. Also I'm having a really hard time stocking up enough food to sustain myself long enough to focus on actually getting renewable food and preservation going.
The novel crafting mechanics (like making charcoal) add a lot of "cheap" variety that Minecraft really lacks and I like that aspect.
Basically, the game is a little too hard for me and I lost interest for the moment.

>>719134415 (OP)
I got to the iron age and I got bored.
Might play it again later, but I wish it had more variable content to do than just surviving and progressing in technology.

>>719134718
Also I'd like to add on that visibility even in a plains-like biome (I don't know the biomes) is really poor due to bushes. I have a really hard time hunting.

>>719134415 (OP)
>realistic survival mechanics
>better than minecraft
Contradictory. The only good part of minecraft is playing it like factorio.

>>719134561
>i play minceaft for the whimsy
Fucking based, the best reason to play it

>>719134681
what more content would you like?

>>719134561
It's so bad though. There's no secrets to discover, no meaningful progression. You can't even really build indepth because there's no official chisel tool in the base game.

Maybe redstone is fun I guess

>>719134415 (OP)
>crop rotation
sasuga isekaijin-sama please take my daughter as your slave

>>719134415 (OP)
I don't even play minecraft

>>719134921
More industrial complexity, better mining than just digging a 1x1 shaft down to bedrock, more uses for mechanical power.

>>719135079
It has a better ending, more systems, more creativity. If you dont like survival and homesteading with creating your own old village you won't like this game, sure.

>>719135165
is it better than the create mod for minecraft?

>>719135147
They wouldn't do it better than mods, most likely mess up mods.

Farms already can do pretty much everything with redstone and they're constantly adding new mechanics specifically to redstone to make it work more interesting.

Which is also fun because redstone building is an unique game in of itself. A game in a game. Where as most mod packs with technology give you access to literal programmable computers.

I'll say create would be a cool thing in base Minecraft though. That'd fit the theme and still allow for complexity in builds.

I want adventure not tedium

>>719136439
Why do adventure tards think that adding more mechanical stuff lessens the adventuring capability.

Maybe if it releases on Steam.

>>719137053
https://fplay.su/vs/
I also refuse to buy any games that aren't on steam because fuck all those indie stores they will all get abandoned one day while steam is eternal

>>719136804
Because at a certain point a mechanic goes from being an enjoyable task with depth and a library of knowledge to soak up to being a timesink for the sake of being a timesink that piles on needlessly obnixous details and elements that provide no benefits to the games enjoyment.

>>719134415 (OP)
No Steam?
No buy!

>>719134415 (OP)
Because the granularity is too high. I'm not looking to waste 20 minutes making basic tools.

>>719134415 (OP)
>>realistic survival
That's why. I didn't like when they added fucking retarded shit like hunger in Minecraft, I don't want to have to farm fucking carrots and build a toilet to take a shit in or whatever when I'm exploring caves and fucking around mining to build a castle.

>>719137284
You might not enjoy it but other people enjoy with and interacting with redstone to maximize logisitical capacity. Or making a complex contraption of moving parts on create mod.

None of that takes away from your ability to run around the map on a horse, fly on elytra, take a boat and see spawned structures etc.

If you're pissed about there not being more structures that's an IP thing. Marketers hate new content and have to spend months arguing about what content structure wise will appease the most masses and be a design friendly addition. So it takes two years for them to add a new structure or even fucking more.

It's why redstone chads keep winning because the developers can add in redstone features for an item and marketers don't give a shit about giving it the focus, so it's just a footnote in the patch that unlocks capabilities for revolutionizing farms.

>>719137418
Steam steals your money anyways

>>719137185
I'm not a filthy russian thief with no morals, I pay for games I like and that the developers have put time into

>>719137615
Oh forgot to add it's why Mojang is seething so hard at the End Update meme, because they get one shot to redesign the end like the nether and that's so much bullshit from suits.
YouTubers basically created the modern nether.

>>719137636
You're in 4chan unc don't pretend to have morals.

>>719134415 (OP)
>no steam
meh

I'd rather play castleminer Z

>>719137636
>I'm not a filthy russian thief with no morals, I pay for games I like and that the developers have put time into

>>719137796
Alright, calm down vlad. But its well known russians and eastern europeans are stealing, lying criminals that pay for nothing and constantly steal.

Is the realism interesting or is it adding layers of tedium and frustration?

>>719137681
>YouTubers basically created the modern nether.
yeah and it sucks, those new biomes are ugly as shit, in general I think the biomes were the single biggest mistake mojang made with minecraft, they just make the world disgusting to look at especially the transitions. I think if they really wanted to add it the world should be seperated into giant continents with huge ocean beetwen them and there should be one biome per continent, or two if they have the same climate. Mountaints, plains and forests should share the same dirt color btw

>>719137612
There's nothing wrong with hunger in principle, but it depletes too fast and you don't get anything for going out of your way to keep it high, only penalties for it running out. It's tedium rather than incentive.

because all that crap after 1.7.3 is why i stopped playing minecraft. if i want to be a farmer i'll play fs25.

>>719137882
yeah and? why would I pay for something when I can have it for free?

>>719134415 (OP)
All of this is way more fun in real life, and the best part is that you can show your friends and family the tangible work of your labor instead of pretending to be some digital survivalist/agriculture god.
>>719137924
Some people just find excuses to spend more time sitting in front of the computer with the illusion of having fun and learning a skill.

>>719137942
The old nether kind of sucks, and the new nether kind of sucks.

The coolest part about the nether has always been breaking the bedrock to access the rooftop for farms, and the fact travel is increased by 8 blocks in the over world for every 1 you step in the nether.

>>719138020
Why are you on /v/ instead of tilling a field then?

>>719138102
I mean I like the new fortresses but they should be rarer, and the mushrooms shouldn't grow there nothing should grow in the nether it's like the biggest bullshit ever I would prefer to be no biomes in the nether

>>719134415 (OP)
I tried playing it and couldn't do anything. Because the game expects you to read an entire goddamn book detailing every mechanic before you start playing. This is awful game design and it reminds me of how stupid this place is when people start complaining about tutorials because it is "handholding".

>>719138139
>implying I didn't
It's nighttime right now where I'm at, but crops are good.

>>719138020
>way more fun in real life
I can tell you don't actually do this in real life because actually growing your own shit is a tedious and frustrating process with so much that can go wrong with no obvious tells that you'll spend years of your life mastering the art. That or you just dump fertiliser and pesticides on everything and call it a day.

>takes 30-40 hours just to craft the leather to begin crafting armor (you'll be basically naked this whole time)
terrible game for people who don't respect their time

>>719134415 (OP)
Test

>>719134415 (OP)
Because whatever autism is in this game can be found in a Minecraft mod with 100+ more bells and whistles, better graphics, and modular attributes so I can set the stage however I want. I also don't play Minecraft for highly detailed crop rotations and 22-step crafting processes, and will play other far more interesting games when that's what I'm feeling.

>>719138354
Its part of the game just like building, machinery, brewing, cooking.

Or would getting 6 leather in 5 minutes be more up to your speed? What is there to even do in minecraft after you beat the very basic and boring goal of the ender dragon?

At least in vintage story theres built in mods and multiple systems to occupy your time as well as a much better endgame, and to top it all off voxel, down to a super small fine detail to shape your house exactly how you want.

>>719138336
>skill issue: the post
Tedious? Yes, but you have to be a fool to think you'll nail it the first time. Frustrating? Correct, just like any skill that requires learning, physical effort and time management. If you have a backyards with sun during the day, try to learn it anon. That's how I started and you'll see how fun it can be.

>>719138418
>a Minecraft mod with 100+ more bells and whistles, better graphics, and modular attributes so I can set the stage however I want.
This is all actually not true because Vintage Story is basically a standalone version of the TerraFirmaCraft but because it's not based on Java the game has great performance even on potato PC's and looks very good.

>>719134415 (OP)
I like both for different reasons, I love MC modpacks with quests and shit, there's so many things to find, Create is something I can't play without. And VS is great because I love how chill and slow it is, things take effort so advancing or accomplishing anything feels satisfying. My only issue is that building feels a bit meaningless, I see people that keep bringing up terraria when talking about this game and I agree, having NPCs come and live in your town or whatever would add a lot to this. Development is slow so I don't see this happening soon. At least it's not dead like Hytale I guess.

>>719134415 (OP)
I got to steel and made 2 drift wards thinking they work underground
I am honestly not very impressed with it
notch added railways and mine carts pretty soon into the development
I also abhor the melee combat and the mod that "fixes" it
also no fishing

>>719138020
Killing and stealing is also way more fun in real life, don't know why people play GTA or call of duty instead

>>719134415 (OP)
>realistic survival mechanics

>>719134415 (OP)
its a bit too realistic for my tastes
i dont really want to worry about jarring vegetables for the winter

>>719134561
>>719134415 (OP)
Cus I play Dragon Quest Builders.

>>719134415 (OP)
I do play it tho.

>>719138516
>try to learn it anon
I did, that's how I know it's a tedious and frustrating process, it is not fun in any sense unless you're a masochist. Specifically if you're doing it without the chemical crutches. I grow scraps to feed chickens for eggs so their diet isn't just seeds all the time. It's cheaper than buying eggs at a store, but a lot more time consuming. I feel like most of what I hate about it is spending so much time on my knees.

uh oh... a temporal storm is approaching!

time to sit inside your wood hut and do literally nothing for the next 30 minutes!

>>719138827
>It's cheaper than buying eggs at a store, but a lot more time consuming
This is only cheaper if you value your time very little. Or maybe if you live in like rural Eastern Europe every everybody is poor.
For less than one hour of work I can buy 5 dozen eggs with no added worry or stress or labor of raising livestock.

I would if there was a no reset server that wasn't russian.

>>719138965
sleeping skips temporal storms even if your house is already full of drifters

>>719139018
>time is money retard
I bet you think it's more financially effective to buy new clothes instead of washing them, too. Nobody on this board truly values their time, or we wouldn't be playing video games.

>>719139059
Only if you set the world rules like that yeah.

>>719138750
(You)
>>719138827
>masochist
Soft hands. Alright gramps back to vintage story it is then

>>719134415 (OP)
I'm way, way, way too autistic about environmental destruction/alteration in Minecraft to ever entertain anything with even more focus on cultivating land and village building

>>719139080
>>time is money
This is true though. You have limited time in your day and limited time to work in your lifetime. Unless you're already rich and have passive income yes your time has a value. I play vidya before and after work and on weekends because its a fun and cheap way to relax at home.

>>719134415 (OP)
>realistic survival mechanics like seasons
>seasons that last for like 7 or 12 in-game says
realism my ass.

>>719138632
Minecraft NPCs exist. You just kind of make them slaves as you build them into your farm for maximum efficiency.

It's kind of sick and deranged when you think about it

In the forest

>>719137615
I don't think you truly understand what people mean when they use the term "Adventure", that doesn't just entail running around on a horse drooling on yourself. Way too far up your own ass to even see the irony within your own post.

>>719139169
Personally I never liked the villagers or how to exploit their mechanics, it's not effortless, in fact, they're a pain in the ass but once that's set up you're done. Setting up factories for some reason feels more satisfying at least to me.

>>719139164
You can change it to be 24 hours and match exactly your real life doe even down to the date and months

>>719139354
You made an entire worthless post not defining adventure or challenging anything I said.

Try again lil potato

>>719138795
Post your island.

>>719134415 (OP)
Better than Minecraft is a very low bar, it doesn't mean Vintage Story is good.

>>719139407
Yes. I even bet that up until 23:59:59 of the final day of Autumn everything's still red and brown with rotten leaves, then comes 0:0:0 of the first day of Winter, your character gets suddenly buried under 3 blocks-height of snow that materialized out of thin air.

Millions MUST watch

https://youtu.be/NgP8_TI0qD0

>>719139928
Yeah, I'm not watching 25 minutes of unstructured rambling

>>719134415 (OP)
this aesthetic is hideous. why not just not do that and be normal?

>>719140419
What aesthetic, systems and farming?

If you dont like the look of the game you can turn off sepia or use reshade

>>719134415 (OP)
>biggest complaint with minecraft is the hunger system
>VS is a game that takes the farming and hunger aspects and runs with it
no thanks

>>719134415 (OP)
Not realistic enough, whst i mean is that all these neat little systems are way to shallow. Another gripe is the world gen, why is it tuned that way ores, trees, mountains and even fucking valleys dont behave like that.

>>719134561
>i play minceaft for the whimsy
>yaaassss i use gay words all the time
>im gay btw
well, you didn't have to be THAT honest

>>719134415 (OP)
Just play Vintage Story

-I don't like how unrewarding steel is.
-I don't like how you cannot repair basic tools, but can repair magitech teleportation pads.
-I don't like how you can't insulate your forge.
-I don't like how some things are tech dead ends while others advance.
-I don't like how unrewarding and slow taming is.
-I don't like the sanity mechanic.
-I don't like the parkinson's aim.
-I don't like the shields at all.
-I don't like the combat in general actually.
-I don't like the barebones fish.
-I don't like the infodump of prospecting
+I do like roads making you run faster.
+I do like ore spawning in huge quantities.
+I do like placing stuff in piles on the ground.
+I do like eating a lot and making large stockpiles of food.
The dev is obnoxiously contrarian at times and it kind of brings down the game as a whole.
Gears set your respawn point instead of beds. You ride elk instead of horses, even if you go to the hot area there isn't a camel mount; the guy just didn't want horses.
>has potions and alchemy shit as literal decorative clutter
>makes the gayest grind imaginable for mediocre magic tools
>won't lean into tech nor magic, expands neither
As a whole, I can't really recommend it. It is another one of those early access games that are better as an idea than the actual execution of it.

>719140790
stupid bot post

>Literally EVERY negative problem with minecraft with none of the upsides
>Devs are planning to money stolen everyone dumb enough to buy it via the account system.

>>719134561
Vintage Story has more whimsy than minecraft by a HUUUUUUGGGEEEEEEEEE fucking margin.

>>719140903
nope I just like posting the same thing so you all are pavloved into eventually playing it.

stay mad cuck :)

Just play Vintage Story

>>719140647
Minecraft is bad because the hunger is trivial and meaningless, only a hindrance because food is never an issue so survival shouldnt even exist in minecraft.

Hunger in vintage story gives you more HP, stamina buffs and speed boosts and it is needed for survival and farming actually behaves realistically. It also is used to cook meals which you need to preserve to survive.

The game definitely needs a skill based RPG system with tiers so that you have certain skills that perhaps lets you create potions or magical items or tech.

>>719140865
Its a good execution, mods show this there's tons of mods. Official needs more content though I agree. I can understand why the dev doesnt want to add divisive updates, but that's why he has a forum and community. They can do votes.

>>719140971
this is a vintage story thread, there is no point in posting a spam bump, especially with an empty post.
already played it for free courtesy of /vm/
and it sucked

>>719141123
Jusst play Vintage Story

>>719134415 (OP)
>player model is ugly
>no cool mods

SOVL

This is a good watch too. While the game isnt perfect its much much better than minecraft in creativity, endgame and content.

I play modded

https://youtu.be/ZkA5GRi93jc

>>719141336
>combat
shit
>terrain
ugly but still better than minecraft
>classes
unnecessary
>agression
what? minecraft has agressive mobs and so do fucking pacman

>>719141114
the forum bounces on it too hard, which only makes the update 'fear' excuse stranger.
nobody's going to be mad if he adds more gearshaft attachments or waterwheels or whatever.
only way I could see it is people sucking him too hard that he can't even nut before the forums start thanking him for doing nothing, so why would he make combat better?
it's not fear it's laziness.

2 issues
it's not enough of a game, when I meet a wolf or a boar in game, I want to be able to kill it, and not after spending 8 hours building a bow and arrows
I get the survival aspect, but this is just autistically boring and annoying

and the characters look like absolute fucking ass, I can't believe there's no mods that fix this shit yet, I'd maybe give it more of a go if my wife wanted to play it with me, but there's no way she'd play a game that looks like this much fucking ass

>>719141586
You can doe just make a 3 spears and throw them

>>719134415 (OP)
Windows. Store.

>>719134415 (OP)
For the same reason I havent played Minecraft in over a decade: Its not on steam.

>>719134415 (OP)
There’s no option to disable cheats/console commands in vintage story while minecraft does and if I have access to them I can’t help use them when something goes wrong

>>719134415 (OP)
i want to build cool villages with villagers to trade with

>>719141586
literally dig a 5x5x5 pitt and lure ANYTHING into it then poke it to death this game is so fuckin easy

>>719142898
ho boy do you need to play Vintage Story

here's your npc village

https://wiki.vintagestory.at/Nadiya_Village

the only issue i have is
>try hamachi
>can't connect to friend and vice versa
>try setting up a dedicated server via the given .exe and guide
>spend ages trying to get it to work
>find out i literally can't because of CGNAT or some shit
>the guide never mentions checking for that even though it's probably the most common reason people fail to setup a server
i just wanted to multiplayer with a buddy...

They should add more horror elements and I think it would be a good game, minecraft used to scare me for some reason when I first started to play it

>>719143081
Hey retard, that a static village that never changes. And you need to do bullshit retarded lore events and spend actual hours walking around. What people want is the ability to build their own village, and have it populated with NPCs. Not that shit.

>>719134415 (OP)
>Minecraft for pretentious retards who think they're too good to play Minecraft
Even the fucking name is pretentious: "Vintage Story".

>Try to discuss a game on /v/
>Get called a shill
>This obvious shill thread
>Nobody calling it out
I hate this fucking site.

>he is in this shithole for free
lol, lmao

>>719146918
>game i don't like
shill thread
>game i like
shill thread
>game idgaf about
shill thread
>discussion
wuts dat

>>719140924
No it fucking doesn't, it tries too hard to be a realistic "hardcore" survival game and then you realize it's a bitch easy survival game that relies too much on tedious shit.
Also villages when.

>>719134415 (OP)
I am, but I'm waiting for the full release of the next update to jump in again

>>719134415 (OP)
No waifu mods yet.

Also combat is still ass.

>>719147876
Notch originally intended minecraft to be like dwarf fortress, someone should take that idea and make an actual game of it

>>719134415 (OP)
i wasn't vaccinated enough to enjoy it

>>719134921
>>719136320
NTA but the game badly needs a combat overhaul. Not just 'mods will fix it bro' because even the best combat mod(CO) has the combat feel very stilted.

Also vanilla terrain gen needs a lot of work.

do world gen mods mess the resource spawns? installed Plains and Valleys and I can’t find clay anywhere

>>719148172
I'm playing with P&V as well and have no problems finding red clay (blue is bit trickier but that is the case even in vanilla). My only issue was saltpeter but after I found three large deposits in a row (completely different locations) I came to the conclusion that I just had terrible luck.

It's amazing, but it's true that the last two years not much was added. Who the fuck cares about "lore".
Also, classes are dumb.

>>719134415 (OP)
why is this game not on steam?

>>719148450
well that's good to hear, I'll give it another go then, cheers anon

is there anything you guys would like to see get added to this game?

>>719148790
An Aquarium, but for butterflies

>>719148607
same reason minecraft was never on steam.

>>719134415 (OP)
is there a peaceful mode? I don't to deal with the "eldritch monsters" bs from their website

>>719143081
>>719142898
>>719146541
It really needs a Minecraft Comes Alive equivalent.

I like it but holy shit it's aggravating how inconsistent and incomplete the sound design is. When things aren't doing their random groans or attacking they're completely silent. Just add some placeholder footstep and aggro noises, it's so obnoxious getting jumpscared by a silent bear that instantly kills you because it didn't randomly growl at nothing and it makes no noise while charging through thick underbrush (that it can see you through just fine even though it's completely invisible to you)

>>719148790
thirst and water filtration systems. reasonnable layering of soil and sediment. Meat smoking.

>>719148824
Because it's owned by Microsoft and they don't want to share? At least give us a way to use currency that isn't euro or dollar

>>719148534
>two years to add 'lore'
>combat and hunting still suck ass

This is my biggest gripe bar none. When I take a shot at a deer I don't want it bolt off into the underbrush TO RECOVER HEALTH while I have no fucking way of tracking it.

>>719148714
How much rainfall does your location get? It's almost impossible in areas with less than uncommon precipitation.

>>719148790
rivers and a clear difference between salt and fresh water

>>719148995
Good one, I would also like to see fish preservation as well (is fishing even in the game yet?).
Tired of finding a lot of meat because it'll only decompose later on.

>>719148607
because the dev is a retard who doesn't agree with steam unfair practices so instead he puts his game on some shitty indie website that proceeds to scam him out of thousands of dollars
https://www.thegamer.com/indie-game-vintage-story-sales-halted-itchio-massive-money-owed/

>>719149153
What does he think is unfair with steam?

>>719149275
Why is the game not on Steam?
We are fully aware that Steam will offer a lot of additional exposure and likely a large increase in sales. There's several reasons we are not going to Steam in the near future, and the opinions also vary greatly within the Team of Anego Studios, but here's Tyrons take:

I see Steams 30% revenue cut as unreasonably high and selling on Steam means we either can't sell the game on our site at a lower price or we can't provide users with a steam key upon purchase.
I don't agree with Steams rather restrictive refund policy, their forced updates or their restrictions on concurrent play on the same Steam account.
We're doing fine financially. More money will not accelerate development. I highly value being a small, nimble and highly effective team of developers.
Our full vision for the game is still far from being implemented. If we go on Steam, we would like to release a mostly complete version of Vintage Story
Personally, I'm a big fan of going our own way by building our own infrastructure, as evident by our existing account system, mod database and online store.
Fast growth carries several risks on its own. Despite not being on Steam we have experienced consistent growth for the past 7 years.

That being said, we do agree that it would be wise to release it on Steam eventually. We do appreciate Steams ability to reach a large audience as well as offering country specific pricing.

>>719148995
>Meat smoking
Have you tried the Butchering mod? It revamps handling of animal corpses and adds smoking racks.
>>719149095
Some Anon from /vm/ made a fishing mod but I haven't tried it yet. Currently your only option for preservation is using salt when playing unmodded (or cooking the fish as soon as possible and sealing it in a crock).

>>719134415 (OP)
>better than minecraft
>realistic survival mechanics
How can it be better when the worst stuff from Minecraft is even worse

>>719149465
>Have you tried the Butchering mod
I did, i tried tons and tons of different mods.

>>719149348
>we'd actually have to work on our game
>we'd actually make money directly to our pockets since our business costs are already covered
>we'd have to abide by industry standards
They are so stupid. Even pz can do it despite being in EA for a decade; they'd be fine.

>>719138965
If there's nothing to do in your home, you're doing it wrong. There are things to do. Connect your home to your forge and your basement storage room, and in the event of a temporal storm you can safely continue prep tasks.

>>719149348
>sell 1 million units
>steam takes 30% cut
vs.
>sell 50k units
>itch takes <30% cut
LMAOOOO if it was on Steam there'd be a chance I'd get it but there's no way I buy something from somewhere else. They're retarded

>>719149095
>>719149465
>>719149538
Primitive Survival has smoking. It's also by far one of the best mods. All of SpearAndFang's mods are fucking great and should be vanilla.

>>719134415 (OP)
why do Vintage Story players always build rustic cottages or medieval architecture. I want to see them make something modern like a skyscraper with art-deco detailing with their chisel shit

the combat is shit so the game gets boring fast. community is all dick riders and stinks of the unfun kind of autism. have to mod and join some fucking discord to do anything in multiplayer. fucking shit gay game.

>>719140790
???

>>719134415 (OP)
I got back into it few weeks ago, hit 100 hours on my savefile yesterday

>>719149683
What terrain mod?

>>719149652
I want the lichen mod to get continued. Crafting wind chimes from bones and antlers was pure kino.

not on steam

>>719149765
There is a continuation but it's missing shit like the antler knives and picks. Still a great mod, though. And essential if you want to play anything more tribal/prehistoric.

>>719149751
Plains and Valleys

>>719149803
I've been playing with Conquest lately. Might have to switch back.

Fuck I wish there was a Terraforged equivalent that I could customize the shit out of.

what river mod actually works?

>>719149915
Rivers by Sneezerstein is what I use. Also adds water wheels.

>>719134415 (OP)
Tedium

>>719137636
Who asked you?

>uh oh manual clayshaping
>uh oh overcomplicated farming
>uh oh retarded prospecting
>uh oh shitty combat

>>719137636
You are confusing idealogy with morals, souless golem

This has to be the most blatant shill thread in a while and it feels like someone from the dev team posting. fuck you

the biomes/terrain are boring desu
modded minecraft has beautiful scenery

>>719149636
>sell 1 million units
>steam takes 30% cut
Worth noting here, it cuts down to 25% and 20% the more it sells. No other storefront does that in addition to 30% being the industry norm. That said, there's nothing wrong with them going their own way with it, Starsector has a similar deal and it not being on Steam hasn't hurt it one bit. As long as you have a good game, customers will be willing to come to you outside a few mouthbreathing retards.

Does this game have actual content, or is this one of those Project Zomboid situations where the devs create an autistically detailed world with tons of mechanics, but there's nothing to actually do.

>>719150198
elaborate on your logic

>>719150251
bullshit

>>719134415 (OP)
the player/monster? damage sound is too annoying

>>719150278
>autistically detailed world
I fucking wish

>>719150353
You pick your characters sound, so if you picked an annoying one, thats on you retard

>>719134415 (OP)
I gave it a try as an aging 30 yo game guy after a hit of nostalgia and something deeper than what minecraft became

its bad. Its that one mod for minecraft, IIRC called terrafirma craft or something, only a game of its own

right off the bat its pretty bad with its character designs, the game has terrible onboarding or tutorials so you just kind of have to flub it or use a guide otherwise you will be making mistakes you dont even know about (and before you say thats the point, failure is learning, we will get to this)

The game has this weird dumb 'lore' and design elements that contrast hard with the naturalist survival themes, it just doesnt work at all.

Its boring as sin, with basically nothing interesting ever happening, part of the draw of hard games or games with deep mechanics is mastering them and benefitting from it, but thats not what this is, this is an overly convoluted needlessly complex set of arbitrary rules serving no purpose than either padding or fluff. You dont benefit from mastery, you dont achieve anything. You just do things for the sake of it.
Best you get is avoiding failure, like OPicrel, if you dont rotate crops they will basically die and you will starve 10s of hours in, learning the farming stuff alone will take time and experimentation but the reward isnt more bountiful harvests, its not failing.

The game is full of this shit, you NEED certain ores to do things, but that can mean travelling literal 1000s of blocks to a new fucking world to find it, you can use the rock type to guess where to look but thats not something you can know without a guide or prior knowledge, most players wont even know this is a mechanic and will wonder why the fuck copper isnt in any cave ever, or never make things with lime etc

its a case study of wasting players time, with no respect to their time, for the sake of muh realism which ultimately makes it a guide-game. Which is lame.

>>719149348
>we can't provide users with a steam key upon purchase
Is that really that big of a deal?
However it's probably better this way, considering the limiting factor is Tyrone's management ability (or lack thereof) and not how many people he can hire. I can imagine the development crawling to stop after he gets the big steam payday and realizes there is no longer need to keep working on the game in the same extent as before.

>>719150571
>there is no longer need to keep working on the game in the same extent as before.
lol
lmao even

>>719150162
>overcomplicated farming
retard-kun...

>>719134718
the ironic thing the fanboys wont admit is the reward for mastering this game and learning its mechanics, surviving and making it past this initial hurdle is.... nothing
just the ability to spin your wheels

oh you got a sustainable farm setup going? great, just keep doing that year on year and never care about food again so you can instead... uh... build some buildings?

I can do all that in other games without the need to waste my precious time figuring all this out. Unironically why not just play minecraft at that point and save yourself hours of bullshit if the endgame is the same?

the amount of golems ITT that need to see a "You Win!" screen to feel satisfied with a game is staggering

>>719150705
Every single argument you just made could be leveled against almost any sandbox game anon.

>>719138247
>Because the game expects you to read an entire goddamn book detailing every mechanic before you start playing.
weird I didn't do that and yet I managed to get to the iron age just fine. but wouldn't that mean you're... oh no.. oh no no no anon

>>719150771
maybe, which is why I stopped liking most sandboxes, but if you read what I said, theres a clear distinction about what is reward for effort and what is wheel spinning.

Building a big factory to achieve a goal in like, industrialcraft or create mod is rewarding and the reward serves a purpose of furthering your efficiency in whatever you were already doing.
This games challenge is more about doing whatever you can to delete it from your mind, you progress not for progression but to stop having to care about annoying mechanics that were only put in there to facilitate needing to have the solution.

im not progressing into anything but wheel spinning here, other sandboxes offer more tangible rewarding rewards.

When you stop and ask WHY am I doing this, some games have an answer, this game is "to stop having to waste time on these mechanics" and the question of "what next" is answered with "to spin more wheels"

the novelty of advancing through tech ages wears thin quickly, and youre left with nothing, the combat always remains shit, the buildings remain pointless, the effort goes unrewarded.

contrast to say, terraria where building stuff and putting in effort does lead to tangible rewards. All sandboxes will go stale eventually, but the idea is for it to not be stale before you finished.

>>719151035
It sounds like you're just retarded and are incapable of setting up goals and objectives for yourself, so you project this lack of ability on the games "low quality"

>>719150771
Most sandbox games still have some degree of ignoring MUH REALISM for the sake of creating proper gamedesign and gameplay loop.

>>719150304
Read the thread fucker, it's obviously someone from the dev team

>>719134415 (OP)
copper age is fantastic. You can stay in this age forever and enjoy your world.
Bronze age highlights issues with scarcity and time scale. This is where I think most players will be filtered and just stop playing.
Iron age and up is garbage, with almost no reason to exist. If you werent filtered by bronze, you will regret having put in the effort. Steel is practically unobtainable and does nothing anyway.

It plays a bit like a minecraft progression modpack that was never play tested. You obtain 99% of player and factory strength 1/3 of the way through the pack, then its mindnumbing crafting, rebuilding, and scaling up until youve spent the requisite 100+ hours to craft creative items.

>>719151256
>just look dude
point them out if your so enlightened

>>719151336
Stuck in bronze right now. Enjoying it, not enjoying having to set up a windmill to get the 'right' kind of clay so I can start a bloomery.

Also not enjoying animal husbandry being so autistic.

>>719151256
>People make retarded statements about a game that are purely 100% subjective
>fans of the game point out how those are bad arguments
Yes it must be the game devs, no one else would ever disagree with you.

>>719151115
>non sequitur ad hominem defence
trust the fragile fanboy to falter at the first sign of a critique of their precious game

nothing I said was wrong and youre too unintelligent to respond to anything that was said, so you resort to that instead. Embarrassing.

>j-just set up your own pointless meaningless goals!
or I can just play a game that does suck? Where im not just spinning wheels?

>>719151242
and so does Vintage Story, just to a lesser degree, there's still plenty of unrealistic things vintage story does in favor of satisfying gameplay

>>719151470
>there's still plenty of unrealistic things vintage story does in favor of satisfying gameplay
But there's 'realistic' stuff that gets in the way of actually fun gameplay.

Let's take leatherworking for example. To START leatherworking you need crushed fucking lime or borax. You then need to autistically wait days for it to actually tan.

If you want that lime or borax you have to build a windmill, which requires flax. Flax takes like five in-game months to grow.

All this for tanning fucking leather. And don't even get me started on needing ten generations to tame animals.

>>719151453
You seem to be incapable of understanding the basic idea of you can dislike a game, but the game not be bad.
You're saying the game is bad due to your inability to come up with your own goals to strive for. That does not make the game bad.
Starcraft for example is not a game I enjoy, i don't go around saying it's shit, i just have enough intelligence to understand thats not the genre for me.

You are genuinely stupid.

>want to play multiplayer
>not enough friends want to play
>don't want to jump into a public server since everything is already built up and developed
pain

Can someone explain to me what's the point of classes? They don't fit into the game at all

>>719151623
>You seem to be incapable of understanding the basic idea of you can dislike a game, but the game not be bad.
No im not, im saying the game IS bad and literally saying why
You seem to be incapable of admitting you like a bad game
>You're saying the game is bad due to your inability to come up with your own goals to strive for. That does not make the game bad.
Im literally not saying that you illiterate nigger, in fact, several times I highlight OTHER games that let you come up with your own goals that DONT waste your time by giving you a reason to care instead of wheel spinning.
You are actually braindead, anon. This has been said several times now. Youre just coping and insecure that your shit game was called out and you are not smart enough to defend it without baseless ad hominems.
>Starcraft for example is not a game I enjoy, i don't go around saying it's shit, i just have enough intelligence to understand thats not the genre for me.
good for you?
>You are genuinely stupid.
projection from an insecure child.

>>719151675
servers usually prop up with new versions, now is probably the best time to search around

>>719151619
lime can be crushed with just a hammer, you don't need windmill anon
and even if you did need a quern, it can be operated manually without the need for mechanical power

>>719151426
Iron isnt worth the effort to enter. Meteoric Iron is cool and a huge step up in tool durability and speed from bronze, but you dont actually gain any technological advancement. Armor and shields are still trash. Same foods and cooking methods. Really no increase in efficiency whatsoever.
windmill autohammer is not at all worth the insane amount of resources and time required. Thats about all there is to the endgame other than lore.

>>719151793
>lime can be crushed with just a hammer, you don't need windmill anon
Which you need copper for, then you need to prospect, THEN you need to hope you get lucky
>and even if you did need a quern, it can be operated manually without the need for mechanical power
And that takes fucking ages of you holding right click. It isn't fun, and it isn't rewarding.

All this for basic fucking leather.

>>719151731
It was one of the first features they added to be honest, they need a pretty hefty rework imo, it's supposed to be a multiplayer centric feature which incentivizes players to specialize iirc.

>>719151731
they're made with MP in mind, some players will prefer certain activities over others so they'll choose a class accordingly

>>719151889
You don't need a hammer to crush lime and borax with a quern. You don't need a windmill either, you don't need to prospect for copper because all surface copper rocks HAVE copper ore below them.

You seem to not understand a single fucking thing about this game

>>719134415 (OP)
The last time i played was last year. Can someone tell me if these mods are still around
-toilet need
-rivers
-thrist and freezing liquids
-Expanded cooking
-butchering with thirst mod Integration
-backpacks
-actual beekeeping mechanics
-realistic ore spawns (in veins and such)
-that mod where bones can be used as handles for tools amd such
-animated ore crushing, woodsawing and chopping
-more and realistic ores and minerals

>>719150251
>As long as you have a good game, customers will be willing to come to you
Genuinely no. No one wants to get a new launcher.

>>719151889
>All this for basic fucking leather.
I share this sentiment, feels like late game tech to get early game gear, lot of new blind players wont do this naturally

Also why is this autism simulator all about muh realism, yet you get a free worldwide map and the ability to place markers?
shouldnt you need to make signposts and make some cartography paper first? If theyre willing to let you have psychic vision and perfect memory of the world, and all that, then why not just let us say, find copper from wherever we are in the world? Theyre inconsistent with this shit

>>719151879
>Iron isnt worth the effort to enter. Meteoric Iron is cool and a huge step up in tool durability and speed from bronze, but you dont actually gain any technological advancement. Armor and shields are still trash. Same foods and cooking methods. Really no increase in efficiency whatsoever.
I'm not really all that into efficiency, I just want to not get torn to shreds by the fucking drifters.

It sucks that there's not much early/primitive age gear.

>>719151619
Are you just staring at the barrels the entire time your leather is curing or something? there's like 5 billion other things you can be doing while your leather cures.

>>719152021
>OMG I HAVE TO CLICK A SHORTCUT ON MY DESKTOP INSTEAD OF CLICKING THE SHORTCUT TO STEAM AND THEN GOING IN TO THE LIBRARY AND SCROLLING TO IT AND HIGHLIGHTING IT AND HITTING LAUNCH GAME

>>719151793
>>719151967
Is limestone still need to be found is specific biomes so you need to rely on world generation being kind to you?

>>719151967
Retard the other guy said you can crush lime with a hammer. I avoid that shit because I use Ancient Tools so I have alternative methods for skipping the lime/borax phase of tanning.

>You don't need a windmill either, you don't need to prospect for copper because all surface copper rocks HAVE copper ore below them.
You need a windmill if you want to crush lime in a reasonable amount of time. Hand grinding with the quern takes fucking ages.

>>719152113
Yes. I won't install a different launcher and I won't register for a different service. Keep crying about it.

>>719151889
what the fuck? Copper is literally everywhere, obtaining copper tools is literally one of the very first thing you should be focusing on after starting
>And that takes fucking ages of you holding right click. It isn't fun, and it isn't rewarding.
again, you can use a hammer instead, quern is only mostly useful for making flour and even a single stack with last a while, if you are really adamant then you can simply build a tiny windmill like pic related
>All this for basic fucking leather.
leather is not a basic product, you make the second to last tier of the best backpacks in the game from it and it's also needed for lots of later recipes that are more complex

>>719152097
>there's like 5 billion other things you can be doing while your leather cures.
such as?
lets see what RIVETING gameplay awaits us in this answer!

>>719134561
whimsy, moar like flimsy amirite?

>>719152097
>>Are you just staring at the barrels the entire time your leather is curing or something? there's like 5 billion other things you can be doing while your leather cures
A lot of this game is waiting. I am right now in my game:

Waiting for the last of my crops to finish growing before I winterize
Waiting for my animals to age up so I can advance their generation
Waiting for pit kilns to finish cooking
Waiting for crushed berry juice to cure
Waiting on my charcoal pit to finish

I like the game, I play it a lot. But I hate the excessive fucking waiting to get anything done. I want to get into distilling and even that's more fucking waiting.

>>719152157
Grinding a stack manually might take you 5 minutes max, and early game you wont have that much use of leather unless you're beelining the leather backpacks

>>719152203
>even a single stack with last a while, if you are really adamant then you can simply build a tiny windmill like pic related
The rate of manually crushing anything with a quern for a single stack would take like 20 IRL minutes of doing nothing but standing there and holding right click.
>leather is not a basic product
Sure as shit can't do much with rawhide or pelts.

>>719152282
>>719152227
build shit you uncreative fucks

>>719152378
>The rate of manually crushing anything with a quern for a single stack would take like 20 IRL minutes of doing nothing but standing there and holding right click.
that is a complete lie
>Sure as shit can't do much with rawhide or pelts.
Lamellar armor? Fur clothing for winter? Hunter backpacks? Longbow?

>>719152203
>what the fuck? Copper is literally everywhere, obtaining copper tools is literally one of the very first thing you should be focusing on after starting
NTA, but in my game it took 10s of hours to find it, walking 1000s of blocks, passing days trying to find it.
RNG and all, I had to stop due to starvation several times and in the end I just restarted.

>again, you can use a hammer instead, quern is only mostly useful for making flour and even a single stack with last a while, if you are really adamant then you can simply build a tiny windmill like pic related
He said it was slow, the issue isnt really the method more than the waste of time it presents.
>>All this for basic fucking leather.
>leather is not a basic product, you make the second to last tier of the best backpacks in the game from it and it's also needed for lots of later recipes that are more complex
So just because its used late game, it has no use early game? leather is one of the basic starter armors in terms of stats, and yet most players will have metal first since leather is so bothersome to get with so many parts needed, you need leather later on... sure? but that doesnt mean you dont want it early.

Realism clashes here since realistically we shouldnt be able to make metal armor faster than leather, because leather is complex in game but we can make perfectly formed moulds for a chestplate with our bare hands lmao

>>719152378
You're a fucking liar, it does not take 20 minutes to quern a stack of 64 anything.

>>719151889
>All this for basic fucking leather.
leather is literally the second best material for inventory space and good armor with no debuffs, of course it will be harder to get
>>719152053
>Also why is this autism simulator all about muh realism, yet you get a free worldwide map and the ability to place markers?
Disabling the world map is one of the optional features the game has, along with cave-ins and soil instability, which are set to off by default in the standard setting. You can either pick "Wilderness Survival" which has all of these enabled or configure standard world.

>>719152481
okay, and then what? what if im finished building?
what purpose did any of that serve? you wasted time on that with no function
what if im out of materials, and thus need to wait on more tools finishing or waiting on trees to grow?
What if I dont want to build yet because I know ill just be rebuilding later?

What GAMEPLAY do I have? you said 5 billion, youve listed one, okay I can build, what are the other 4,999,999,999 things I can do?

>>719152536
I haven't manually querned anything in ages and don't know why you would. It is the least enjoyable thing to do in game to the point it feels like a punishment for not making windmills.

It wouldn't be so bad if there were alternatives like water wheels, but as it stands those don't exist in vanilla.

>>719152492
>Lamellar armor? Fur clothing for winter? Hunter backpacks? Longbow?
Where's my pelt armour? If leather armour is the shittiest armour why isn't there an even earlier game alternative?

>>719152615
You're playing a video game nigger, the whole point is to waste time

>>719152057
There isnt any in non primitive ages either. Armor is trash and, and the best weapons in the game are only 10-20% better dps than the best bronze weapons. Shields are trash too.

The secret to not getting reky by monsters is to just cheese them with range and blocks, or to deal with monsters entirely by building a perimeter moat.
Even then temporal storms are stupid and can spawn monsters on the same block youre standing on. So youl never truly beat anything.

Its just poorly thought out. Not sure why the devs want it this way, since its been brought to their attention many times over several years. They just refuse to change things.

>>719152497
You need to pay attention more because default copper surface generation always has clusters of surface copper within a hundred blocks of each other.

Also to that limestone pulverizer guy, you can't even fucking PUT limestone ON A pulverizer. Fucking dumbass twat. I'm convinced anyone complaining about this game in this thread just doesn't have a single clue about what the fuck they're talking about.

>>719152537
>Disabling the world map is one of the optional features the game has, along with cave-ins and soil instability, which are set to off by default in the standard setting. You can either pick "Wilderness Survival" which has all of these enabled or configure standard world.
fair enough I suppose, I dont figure new players will do this though.

cave ins I enabled for example but then I realised
A: theyre kind of lame after a while since it just means more wasted time getting wood and building beams, once you solved it, youre just kind of wheel spinning just to mine more, cool idea but boring in practice
B: natural caves can get fucked by it.

Soil instability is similarly kind of cool but doesnt really improve the game either, like, sure building retaining walls is cool and all but then the game is like "no you cant build there because that small plank occupies that whole block" so in the end it limits you, but, eh its fine.

my point was more the game is inconsistent with its autism, >>719152497
>we shouldnt be able to make metal armor faster than leather, because leather is complex in game but we can make perfectly formed moulds for a chestplate with our bare hands
makes a similar point.

>>719152696
I can play a game thats more fun, though?

>>719134415 (OP)
Oh man, this game.
>why aren't you playing
Because it keeps updating, breaking my mods, and then I gotta start going through the list again.
Also the clay molding gives me carpel tunnel.

Still, great game. Easily in my top ten.

>>719152830
Yeah nobody is forcing you to play a game you don't like, nor is anyone holding a gun to your head to keep arguing about a game you've clearly already made up your mind about

>>719151879
wtf are u saying
>Iron isnt worth the effort to enter
iron is literally the basic bitch ore after u leave bronze. u can stay in the iron age forever if u want and u will be perfectly fine.
>Armor and shields are still trash.
armor will save ur ass countless of times. shields are mandatory if u want to fight things that fight back.
>windmill autohammer is not at all worth the insane amount of resources and time required
lmao it's nowhere near insane resources and time and it is worth when u want to make a lot of plates
do u even play the game??? literally ai post prompted by BE ANGRY ABOUT THE GAME

I like building comfy houses

>>719152723
>Even then temporal storms are stupid and can spawn monsters on the same block youre standing on. So youl never truly beat anything.
I really liked the idea behind the temporal mechanics but I had to disable it. All the best fucking spots I was finding to settle had negative temporal stability and there was no way to make them more stable.

It's a shame because there are cool ideas with temporal shit. It'd be neat if you could use the glowing gears to speed up crop growth in a given area or something.

>Its just poorly thought out. Not sure why the devs want it this way, since its been brought to their attention many times over several years. They just refuse to change things.
I've been following the game for years hoping for them to make combat and hunting not shit. As it stands it is the least immersive thing possible and I don't know why they haven't touched it.

>>719152497
>Realism clashes here since realistically we shouldnt be able to make metal armor faster than leather, because leather is complex in game but we can make perfectly formed moulds for a chestplate with our bare hands lmao
Not to mention hunger drains way faster than IRL.

>>719152794
havent played it in over 2 years so maybe it changed, maybe im blind, but I saw no surface copper for hours in my game. Seemingly didnt spawn near any, I did a spiral around spawn at first.

copper wasnt the major issue, things like clay and lime took waaaaaay longer to source in my game.

ive played ECO which was a similarly autistic realism sim, and while I dont like it (not good for solo) I would say there are probably some changes to this game that would make it more enjoyable as a game
its probably better in MP im sure, but right now its just too grindy and RNG / guide-gamey for me to want to invest into.

>>719152923
then why do you feel the need to defend it so incessently?
why does it bother you SOOOO MUCH that people didnt like this game in a thread where OP specifically asked
>why arent you playing it?

OP asked, we answered, you got mad and started fighting people with ad hominems and dismissals of their points.
kek, youre so fucking stupid anon. You ooze insecurity.

>>719152976
I will agree clay can be a pain in the ass to find because its dependent on rainfall level and z layer height, but they've recently made the clay types much more common.

>>719153081
Because this is a Vintage Story thread, I like the game so I want to discuss it, you seem to hate it and can't leave the thread.

>>719153213
anon
>>719153081
>OP specifically asked why arent you playing it?

you are retarded. Insecure and defensive. You didnt have to argue with people, you didnt have to get mad people didnt like it, you didnt have to get mad it has legitimate flaws

you are a shill, plain and simple.

>>719152976
Clay is a skill issue. The problem is largely solved by looking on the map. The subtle terrain difference is pretty easy to spot once you know what you're looking for. The problem is, of course, new folk don't and so spend ages looking for step 1 without much of any way to help.

>>719153139
They should make fire clay spawn more often. Having to make it is just more tedium.

>>719153081
they must have loved you in high school debate club, lmafo

>>719153310
Fireclay spawns under black coal deposits so look out for that and you should find large chunks of it.

Why are NEETS obsessed with survival sims when they need government handouts to survive?

>>719152925
Me too

>>719153296
I dont like games that basically soft force guides on you, havent played in a while but >>719153139 suggests they improved it a bit

personally I had no idea about rainfall level and wouldnt even know how youd know in game, not like you can make a rainfall gauge in game early on, or that rain is tied to clay, I didnt know what I was looking for, if clay spawns anywhere, in certain biomes, temperature ranges, by the sea, by the rocks, in grass, under dirt, or just literally anywhere.
All I had was the sliver of info the game gave and some terrafirmacraft knowledge I figured may cross over, found tiny bits of clay, never enough, didnt know if you could make it or substitute it etc

really bad new player experience, since at that time youre also probably still low on food and shelter options etc, so wasting days looking for it feels wrong

also if you turned off the map, your kind of fucked more. >>719152537
>Disabling the world map is one of the optional features the game has,
is good and all but why does it not have
>>719152053
>shouldnt you need to make signposts and make some cartography paper first?
if you turn off the map itself?

>>719153436
>>719152925
I only play these kind of games with friends or NPCs. I get lonely building a big, fancy house with no one in it.

>>719152830
>but we can make perfectly formed moulds for a chestplate with our bare hands
We can?
I don't remember ever having a chestplate mold. There's lamallar, I guess, but that's literally loose plates... it's not exactly far fetched to make a mold for thar by hand.

I have bigger issues with the anvil mold, personally.

>>719153541
they added an elk that you can ride not long ago. it works nicely to keep you company when you are living alone

>>719153514
I know about the rainfall thing because thats how clay in real life forms, the game mimics stuff like that. You can see what the rainfall in an area is like by pressing C and looking at the Enviroment tab

>>719153663
I don't like that you have to buy it from a trader. I was looking forward to breaking in a horse like in Red Dead 1 or something.

I just hope we get a good NPC mod some day. I want to have a wife and kids to fill the house with.

>>719153541
whenever I play with others, I get very neurotic about what they build near where I live if it doesn't live up to my building standards so I end up acting like some annoying HOA Karen and driving everyone to either move elsewhere and leave me alone or quit playing out of frustation
I just can't tolerate your dirt cube next to my autisically chiseled renaissance era manor, sorry

>>719153359
>no argument
>more ad hominem
I dont know why you keep coming back when you lose so hard every time.
you still havent countered any of these guys points
>>719150537
>>719150705
>>719151035

>>719153780
You can get a free Elk by doing the story content.

>>719152924
I actually speedran an iron a few times to really get a feel for what exactly about it feels so wrong. My fastest setseed was 2:21, and my fastest randomseed was ~4:30 (I didnt stop the timer after making the iron ingot since I was so frustrated after that run which was by far my fastest).
What I concluded was that deep ore prospecting is stupid. Anvil tiers are stupid. And using chunk boundaries to dig straight down in hopes of finding iron in the most likely chunk is stupid. Mining itself is stupid with the sanity cost at depth. And finally bloom smithing is stupid. Absolutely none of it is done right.
For all that work, your payoff is to spend more time building a windmill autohammer than it would take to hand smith all the plates, bars, nails, and tools youl ever need.

Frankly Im convinced its you who didnt play much of the game. What exactly have you done to come to your conclusions that anything past bronze is worth your time?

>>719134415 (OP)
There's already retarded busywork in many Minecraft modpacks, in fact Vintage Story was a Minecraft mod before they made it its own game because they wanted to make it worse.

>>719153780
As of the latest update a couple days ago, you no longer buy them, you have to trap a baby and raise it to adulthood yourself

>>719153514
> soft force guides
I want to agree, but it's rather hard when so many of my favorites these days like Kenshi, or Elin, fall in the same category
I don't really know how you can get the level of complexity without really losing something major.
Though at least with those two, death & losing aren't quite so annoying as with a slow paced game like Vintage Story. And some of the things you need to know are a whole lot more vital than in those two. Bar perhaps in Kenshi, when it comes to the danger of group combat and the number of attackers it supports natively, admittedly. That ones really bad. But at least it's easy to notice...

There's a lot of shit even guides don't warn you on in Vintage Story, such as that off hand stuff makes you starve way faster. There's not any sense to it, is not intuitive, you can't really even find it out on your own due to the food rate being fairly granular, and so many players seem to run around with a torch or a shield never realizing they're massively screwing themselves.

>>719153781
>I just can't tolerate your dirt cube next to my autisically chiseled renaissance era manor, sorry
Think of it like having a garden hermit like 1800's nobility.

>>719153826
who cares, all of these points are purely subjective, the game is highly autistic for autistic people, if you get filtered by the tedium just accept that and fuck off

>>719153781
This is why I tend to become the local architect/builder in such games.
It was especially bad in Wurm, considering how much a grind building was
Though it did at least mean people were way more appreciative.

>>719153558
I just meant metal working in general is too easy compared to reality when leather, which by video game logic should come first, is much more complex

Theres no way one man can make metal armor or probably even weapons with their bare hands.

I dont mind leathercraft but I think they need an easy to get crude leather for early game that doesnt need such animal husbandry and barrel shenanigans or lime and such that filter out new players from ever trying, something thats bad quality but easily done, like just hide and some kind of string and sewing.

ive watched multiple new players, theyre all either going to quit or guide it, and things like this cause issues - its just not well balanced/implemented

>>719153829
it's a video game
u play it
???
do u want to double click the vintagestory.exe and have a window open saying u won or would that be too much too

>>719153829
>What I concluded was that deep ore prospecting is stupid. Anvil tiers are stupid. And using chunk boundaries to dig straight down in hopes of finding iron in the most likely chunk is stupid.
It wouldn't be so bad if caving was as rewarding as Minecraft caving.

>>719153912
ancient hermitages at least looked decent

fucking god damn it. i missed 7 hours of an impromptu vintage story thread

it has many problems, many, but it's a solid game. i'd recommend torrenting it at least and trying it out if you're on the fence

it seriously needs a couple of things though
>alligators/crocs and sharks
>VILLAGERS... and hostile humans
>voxel tailoring/weaving
>upgrades to things like the crucible, tongs, and tool racks, if only purely for aesthetics. the crucible really does need some sort of smelter upgrade though, similar to the oven being an upgrade to the firepit
>fucking wool
>the ability to hang cloth like you can vines + similar waving movement
>the ability to make armor out of whatever the fuck metal you want no matter how bad it may be statwise. i want it, fuck you
>a system that actually makes the material you build a shelter/home out of matter
>normal ass horses to capture, tame, breed, and ride would be nice
>fish traps
>throwing nets
>iron and steel spears tyron you little faggot holy shit

etc

>>719138632
>things take effort
>feels satisfying
Found the best goy. Do you also work overtime and skip paid weekends

>>719153983
>I think they need an easy to get crude leather for early game that doesnt need such animal husbandry and barrel shenanigans
Isn't that what pelts already are?

>>719154008
"You can build whatever retarded shit you want but only do it in the retard zone" sounds like a sweet deal.

>>719153923
>all of these points are purely subjective
theyre literally not, though. you just refused to engage with them because its upsetting to you that people have issues with the game

The games structure is objective. So is those comparisons, their take away is subjective but the points made are not
youre just a coward fanboy

>>719153965
unfortunately some people get really pissy if you touch their builds, even if they look like complete shit

>>719154025
>VILLAGERS... and hostile humans
Frankly I think they should steer clear of randomly generated villages alltogether, and if they ever add more there should be a table of like maybe a dozen handcrafted villages like Nadiya that spawn within a 20k block radius or something

>>719134415 (OP)
I really like Vintage Story, but it's simply got a content bottleneck. Eventually there really is only so far you can actually go.
It's better than Minecraft, but I don't play Minecraft obsessively either.
I put in a good 100 hours of Vintage Story, had a nice little house and some steel armor... And then I stopped.
It's actual freakish fucking lunacy how people like you actually expect people to play video games INDEFINITELY.
I got what I wanted out of it, and now updates are too slow to care about. I'll come back when it hits 1.0, dude. Nothing wrong with that. People shouldn't continue playing video games forever even though they've experienced all the content, that's retarded.

>>719154025
The fact this game doesn't even have a fucking fishing rod in vanilla baffles me.

>>719154092
seethe

what can be added to give each age more flavour

>>719153891
I think an in game journal with information or tips makes sense seeing as theres NPCs, like, you go up to a trader selling seeds, and you can ask them for help with farming. You find an NPC hermit and he offers help foraging or finding clay or whatever, traders and such existing are a good vessel for in game guides.
also ruins, like, you stumble on a ruin with some old forge and inside is a journal about someone figuring out the correct % for brass

>There's a lot of shit even guides don't warn you on in Vintage Story, such as that off hand stuff makes you starve way faster. There's not any sense to it, is not intuitive, you can't really even find it out on your own due to the food rate being fairly granular, and so many players seem to run around with a torch or a shield never realizing they're massively screwing themselves.
that too, so many people will do that stuff, so I wouldnt even mind a hand holdy tutorial, either a video, journal or even a pre-made guide world that gives you the basics before you start playing, like a literal step by step advice world for the initial game era

normally I DONT like guides at all, like you said kenshi and such are fun to learn, but I wouldnt mind an early game only guide like that just to onboard you if only because failure means 15 wasted hours

>>719154092
You sound like a literal sheep, needing to constantly be hand held and told what your objectives are, and what you should be doing.
It must be fucking miserable not to beable to just enjoy yourself and come up with things to do on your own.

>>719154187
it's not even the random villages you'd expect to find minecraft style i care about, it's the sense of liveliness and purpose that having all these people living in your own custom built village would bring. i don't even need the villages, just some sort of room designation requirements or a special block you place that has them "migrate" to your settlement and then eventually pair off and breed like any of the livestock would

>>719154187
Agreed. Procedural generation always creates dumpster garbage. I don't want that shit, especially for a game with such indepth construction like this.
The structures you do find should wow the player with what's possible, not be ugly dogshit.

>>719154079
my idea of a retard building zone looks more like a concentration camp than a hermitage

>>719154205
i'd be totally fine with having to go all the way to make a fishing rod too. burning a whole ingot for a reel, drying out a stave for the rod, using like 32 flax fibers or a shitload of rope or something for the line, i don't care

>>719152830
>my point was more the game is inconsistent with its autism, >>719152497
>>we shouldnt be able to make metal armor faster than leather, because leather is complex in game but we can make perfectly formed moulds for a chestplate with our bare hands
>makes a similar point.
There are 8 different armor types you can make in the game, 4 of which are made out of metal. Is it really that unrealistic that the very first and worst metal armor can be made through a mold? Not to mention that it cost 19 ingots, which is quite something for early game.
That Anon is also dead set on the idea that leather must be something extremely early game for some reason, even though it's not. Leather armor makes surface and slightly deep cave enemies a lot less dangerous, especially wild animals like wolfs and bears, while not damaging your hunger, heal rate, accuracy or speed. I'd also argue that after you manged to secure a source of lime or borax (which I do agree can be annoying to find, especially when you still don't have the gears for teleporters), leather is far easier to create, just takes some time.

>>719154320
So I guess you're looking for something like Terraria's NPCs but with a little bit more depth?

>>719154456
exactly. they don't have to be groundbreaking, the game is just super fucking lonely and it gets boring. multiplayer just isn't the same

>>719154262
Definitely more stuff for primitive/bronze age. Cave painting is a start but more pelt clothing, more primitive decor. Look at the lichen mod for a general idea of what that could be in VS.

Greatly flesh out hunting for the hunter gatherer chad. Let us see tracks, or animal scat, or something. Let us hit an animal in a weak spot so we can follow the blood trail while it bleeds out.

Could even be super autistic about it and add animal disguises that aid in hunting.

I went through the gameplay loop once, years ago. if I have an idea for a project or have any sort of mechanical interest in anything, nothing is expedient enough or doesn't have any features to begin with. Even the '>Le realism' angle that Tyron likes to bank on isn't even that deep because the main bottlenecks of the game aren't hard or realistic, it's sloppy retard work before you can even do anything cool. Once you're done experiencing the survival larp there's nothing else

>>719154551
>Once you're done experiencing the survival larp there's nothing else
And the survival LARP isn't even that good. There's still no overheat mechanics for hot biomes.

>>719154551
>Once you're done experiencing the survival larp there's nothing else
I enjoy the transition from surviving to thriving and building up your homestead with more and more utilitarian buildings that give you access to more food types and resources

>>719154543
>Definitely more stuff for primitive/bronze age.
What really annoys me is that you can't chisel until the copper age so your stuck with shitass decor until you've got copper tools, makes trying to RP like a caveman motherfucker much more annoying

>>719134415 (OP)
>>719134561
The problem with realism is that it removes the video game out of the video game. Video games can not be realistic. If it is realistic then it's no longer a video game. The more the video game tries to be realistic the less video game it becomes.

>>719153983
I would posit that you're thinking too much in video game terms, with the assumption leather is used for armor on its own, and not things like bags, equipment, weapons, and so on.
It's not a 'tier' of its own, so much as a technology.
It isn't meant to replace or compete with bronze lamilar.

>Theres no way one man can make metal armor or probably even weapons with their bare hands
You aren't. This is retarded. Either you're misrembering, or you're confusing Minecraft.
You do not slap your hands together and create something from an empty bar.
You pour a crucible full of moltant metal into a mold, much as countless humans did throughout antiquity.

> they need an easy to get crude leather
They have that. You can make oiled pelts for various things.

>>719154076
Yes, but I suspect he is retarded, hadn't played, and is basing it all on YouTube videos.

>>719154672
You can't truly cavemanmax because there's no way to drive off drifters at night, so you're stuck dirt cubing with a shitty ass door.

You can't even make a tent out of hides or anything. It's dumb as shit.

>>719139628
The seasons in the game are gradual, have you never played it?

>>719138795
loved 1 and 2, and it pains me to know 3 never ever

>>719154835
true cavemanmaxxers plays on homo sapient mod with driggers turned off

>>719154672
>>719154543
Cave painting is already in the game though

>>719154262
the problem with trying to break it down like this is they aren't really "ages"
in real life there were thousands of years between each age at the start, and several hundred between the later ones still. whole entire levels of advancement were made across the board, whereas if you're good enough in vintage story you can reach steel in less than an ingame year at 9 day months.

and the only way around that is to just reductively, and in a very gamey way, lock certain tech to certain metal tiers

stone age? get to work you bum
copper age? the almighty saw
but then it's just
bronze age? now you can mine iron
iron age? now you can mine extra good and hard
steel age? uhhhh now you can mine extra gooder and harder

i'd say, bronze age unlocks the ability to form shit like a loom out of better materials than you could process with copper, iron age unlocks cartography equipment, and the steel age unlocks some kind of old-world alchemical processes that, now that you're able to machine high quality metal, allows to you to brew up better healing items, better food preservation, maybe rudimentary water desalination so you can infinitely collect salt, etc.
maybe you also get the ability to start glass blowing around the bronze/iron age and can make vases, liquid tubes (for the people with source block transfer turned off), etc. i don't know. the "ages" also have to represent more than just the possession of a better metal in my eyes, they need to represent a higher understanding of the world

Rate my little Valley settlement, its coming along nicely, i am currently building that palace off in the distance, I need to decorate it now that the bones are done.

>>719134415 (OP)
Because of your second bullet point

>>719154874
I should try that. I already added all those autistic dinosaur and ice age fauna mods.

>tfw you lure a mammoth into a pit trap full of spikes
I felt so ooga booga, man.

>>719149683
this game gets so fucking confusing so fast, I can't even last 5 hours in the game before I leave and return months later, just to start a new world.

>>719155016
>this game gets so fucking confusing so fast
How come? Do you have problems with prospecting?

>>719134415 (OP)
Does the game still require you to trek millions of blocks to get a specific stone block that locks your entire progress?
I don't remember which block it was, maybe Limestone/Marble, but I remember spending four hours just walking waiting for it to be generated until I gave up and refunded the game.
Must have been two years ago.

>>719154951
cozy, cohesive, well spaced out and proportioned, but the hard color transitions on some of the materials is pretty jarring (bottom right) and you don't have very many flowers or much decor around the grounds proper of your base, like the inside areas behind walls.

also your animals are TOTALLY fucked if a bear shows up. they can climb 3 blocks and will 100% get into your pens and murder all your livestock. they need some kind of bear-proof enclosure to run into or just an indoor space to live

>>719155186
yeah, sadly the game can bottleneck your progress really hard if it spawns stuff like limestone, bauxite or tin far away from your spawn, though it can be somewhat mitigated by buying it off of traders

>>719155264
>also your animals are TOTALLY fucked if a bear shows up. they can climb 3 blocks and will 100% get into your pens and murder all your livestock. they need some kind of bear-proof enclosure to run into or just an indoor space to live
NTA but this happened to me, though I think the bears actually spawned in my pasture because it was a male and female. Shit was a fucking massacre.

>>719155119
Prospecting, Leather, food, and the nonstop drifter spawns. granted, the last isn't confusing, it's just all of that combined with being lost and just doing "stuff" that I don't even know if I should be makes me anxious about the clock ticking
its a me problem, i know. I like the game, its just too many systems for me to juggle.

>>719155186
bauxite and some kind of lime producing stone like chalk or limestone are the two things people complain the most about not being able to find, but unless i got extremely lucky i'm pretty sure they've changed how that works, because i find both in endless quantities everywhere. 1.20.11 version

what looks to possibly still be a bitch to find is borax, but i think you only need that for iron anvils/renewable steel making equipment and you only need a little bit. it also shows up in the prospecting pick's chunk search

>>719155264
Bears can't get up two block high fences I just killed one that was stuck ten minutes ago. Also i have a garden its just hidden from the first screenshot. I have more plans to pretty the place up, but its mostly in murals, reliefs, and carved pillars.

>>719154298
Anon, you already tried that argument and failed here
>>719151768
Learn 2 read.

why would I play just for the sake of it in this game when I can do the same thing in a more fun game?
This was never about "being able to make your own goals" you stupid fucking favella monkey.

more ad hominem
more cope
more seethe.
more insecurity
keep losing, nigger.

>>719155607
You sound upset maybe you should play a comfortable sandbox game like Vintage Story.

>>719155429
i learned it the hard way too
>no grass inside animal pens, literally any other block, just NO grass-growable blocks
>fences at LEAST 3 high, equal to or less than 3 high and you might as well not have a fence
>a light source somewhere in the pen or else you'll come back to a bunch of despawned/dead animals from the darkness timer
>chicks and baby hares can literally fit through gaps as small as a couple voxels
>hens need to be fed enough to LAY the eggs, THREE TIMES, they then need to be fed enough AGAIN to lay another egg, where they will then brood - IF YOU SCARE THE FUCKING CHICKEN (11 block radius, through fucking walls) IT WILL NEED TO EAT AGAIN TO START BROODING AGAIN
>males can breed from 10 blocks away, so they can be separated, but they do need to eat at least a little to breed. not even half as much as their female counterparts but you can't outright starve them
>the babies of any species can eat and eat and eat and do not need to wait any amount of time before eating again, separate the babies from the food or just don't feed them until you want to breed them

>>719154803
>They have that. You can make oiled pelts for various things.
maybe ill give it another spin, seems like its changed a lot since I last touched it

>>719155707
When you lay it out like that animal husbandry is kinda shit in this game.

>>719155575
https://wiki.vintagestory.at/Bear
>step height: 3

trust me and my 2 dead prized chickens. bears can ABSOLUTELY get over a 2 high fence

looks good though, it'll look even better as you fill it all out with more stuff

that's actually another thing this game needs, yearly random propagation chance on trees, vines, flowers, and very rarely, wild crops. the grass growing is a nice touch but everything else not doing so makes it feel really static. probably a lag thing

>>719155856
Yeah it would be nice to have plants and trees spread

>>719134415 (OP)
It looks like autistic in a bad way
Like the kind of Minecraft mods you have to start an industrial revolution just to get anything done

>>719155849
yeahh.... it is
don't even get me started on how painful it is to do if you play with 30 day months. fucking 10 generations to domesticate them, i've been at it for 2 dozen hours of my life, and the highest animal i've got so far is a gen 3

chickens are definitely the biggest pain in the ass too. egg -> wait -> chick -> wait -> pullet (no other fucking animal in the game has a juvenile stage, it's just baby straight into adult) -> wait -> hen -> wait for it to become fertile -> feed it and wait several days for the 3 eggs to lay -> wait another several days for the brooding to complete -> next gen chick

>>719156020
Honestly if you cut the generations to 5 it'd be far more manageable. I don't know why the fucker chose 10.

I want Tyron to made the QP Chisels mod part of the base game, being able to paint murals is nice, the vanilla way is a pain in the balls.

>>719154262
Stone sling, bows, crossbow, cannon
Rope, gravity traps, bear traps and cages
Harpoon, fishing rod, fishing net, cage fish traps, mounted harpoon
Inverse molds, potter wheel, ceramic glazing
Fire pit, wooden spit, metal grill, rotisserie
Leather bellows, refractory brick bloomery, mechanical bellows
Seed collection from grown plants, a plow, crops place-able on the ground, a clay pipe, a waterwheel, a copper pipe, archimedes screw (fluid)
Bone stew, drying racks, shaker jars, evaporation cooler
Splitting wood into sticks, carved wood tools, carved tool handle, recycling metal tools for metal scrap or bits, honing metal blades
Poison coatings, herbal tea, medicinal powders, hallucinogenics
A hand crank, a pulley, a minecart, an elevator
Rift sacrifice, rift summoning altar, rift widening, meet with the metal giraffe

>>719154951
Gives that old minecraft vibe and has a lot of potential keep at it anon, heres mine

>>719156175
based and all necessary
and the hallucinogenic part reminds me - HOLY FUCK TYRON CAN YOU PLEASE MAKE ALCOHOL ACTUALLY USEFUL? WHY, WHY, WHY OH WHY DID SO MUCH EFFORT GO INTO DISTILLATION AND ALCOHOL WHEN IT'S ACTUALLY USELESS YOU FUCK

THERE ARE TWO WHOLE METAL BOILER COMPONENTS YOU HAVE TO MAKE, SPECIAL SOLDERING ALLOYS, AND A TOOL LITERALLY JUST TO PUT THE BOILER TOGETHER... AND ANYTHING PAST WINE IS UTTERLY AND COMPLETELY USELESS. NO NUTRITION AND IT MAKES YOUR SCREEN FUCKED. AND YOU TYPE LIKE A RETARD IN CHAT. WOW. AMAZING. SUPER USEFUL IN MY SINGLEPLAYER WORLD. IT TAKES LONGER THAN COMPOST TO TURN JUICE INTO FUCKING WINE BUT WHY WOULDN'T I JUST DRINK THE JUICE, TYRON? WHY WOULDN'T I JUST DRINK THE JUICE? OR EAT THE BERRIES THEMSELVES? IN A MEAL? AND GET TWICE THE SATURATION? TYRON? WHY DOES THE ALCOHOL GO BAD TYRON. LET ME MAKE BOTTLES AND CORKS TYRON.

>>719156386
Thats a nice little smithy area, i've got to build a proper one

i wont buy this game until the devs publicly apologize for supporting ukraine

>>719156497
I wish you could automate making chains like you can plates and ingots cus making a full plate armor is a pain in the ass

>>719134415 (OP)
so let me get this straight, some guy just copied terrafirmacraft and added dragons and called it his own game?

>>719156715
if you want smithing chains to be easier, make it out of plate instead of from ingots, it's significantly faster

>>719156857
If i remember correcty dev of the game was making mods for minecraft and simply decided that making a whole game was better idea but i might be wrong

>>719156857
dragons?

>>719156972
I know but its still painfully slow

>>719157094
The dev for Vintage was a dev for Hytale, and he jumped ship when he realized how retarded they were, and now that Hytale has been shit canned, he had a point.

>>719157157
this is not the game to play if you want things to get done quickly, you should know that

>>719157145
it's on their website at least, I haven't played it, but from this thread and the pics on the website it looks just like modded minecraft with a terrafirmacraft mod pack installed

>>719157257
Where the hell are you seeing a dragon at?

>>719157178
Considering they tried to make all in one game thats not a shocker

>>719134415 (OP)
because i like tech and skyblock autism, not realistic crop autism
also i don't like how it looks

>>719157254
Guess you are right, i put something around 250+ h on one save so i might be getting a bit of a burnout

>>719134415 (OP)
>bro just spend 3 irl days to make a forge
Maybe if I was a young kid, who the fuck has time for that?

>>719157556
>he has time for videogames at all
fucking loser, you should be toiling in the mines 24/7 to bring prosperity to your country until you perish like god intended

>>719157705
Amen brother

>>719157335
guess that makes sense, hopefully doesn't turn into vaporware. Does it have navigation and glassblowing? I loved having to travel very far south to find a special type of clay for the steel furnace in tfc, glassblowing was also pretty cool when compared to just smelting sand into a furnace like vannila

>>719157556
people spend entire days sitting on a chair trying to catch a single fish, I don't see a problem with this

>>719157829
Doesnt have glass blowing yet and i hope they will add it cus i need to bottle all my whiskey somewhere as for the different types of clay there are 3 i belive with different colors that depend on how long you cook em

is there a /v/ server?

>>719134415 (OP)
im not autistic enough to play it

They really need to fix the prospecting, I don't mind the idea of it but having to go into the console to manually change the search radius is clunky as fuck.

>>719158001
I'll wait for the game to mature and HOPEFULLY come to steam, even dwarf fortress and factorio gave up, so it's only a matter of when

>>719134561
This is correct only for up until 1.7

>>719158121
why are people like you so adamant about giving Gabe a cut of money for every single videogame?

>>719158121
This game has a shit ton of potential and I hope they dont fuck it up, all im asking for is a more realistic minecraft that doesnt look like shit, there is still so much stuff thats ingame but doesnt have purpose it would be tragic waste if it would turns to shit

>>719139628
Well you bet you placed is wrong.
People really do just say shit, even if it makes them look like a total retard.

>>719158523
because I can't even buy it on my currency? I'm not even talking about regional pricing, just straight up not having to use a damn international card

>>719150162
>overcomplicated farming
2025 /v/, everyone.

>>719150162
>Dude don't plant the same thing forever and sometimes put some fertilizer on it
>Overcomplicated
stop being a drooling retard

>>719158523
Honestly devs would still get a lot of money despite fat man's cut cus it would hit front page in no time

>>719159198
they don't need more money, Tyron is a moron that can't lead a dev team
despite hiring over 20 new people to work the game, the development pace has not picked up since he still reviews every single change the other team members make, code included

>>719159382
If money is not an issue then i just hope he will come to his senses and stops micromanaging everything like a retard

>>719159612
considering he said VS might take 10-20 years to complete, I wouldn't bet on it

>>719159870
>10 to 20 years to complete
okay he's a retard and this is going to be the next hytale, thanks now I don't have to think about it ever again

>>719158004
There's a /vm/ server.

>>719159870
>10-20 years
What.

>>719159870
Hope is all i have at this point anon considering gaming industry as a whole, maybe one game will be worth the wait

>>719156020
>chickens are definitely the biggest pain in the ass too
they're pain in the ass because they can detect you through blocks which stops them brooding, but otherwise if you build your coop further from your paths they're the easiest animal to get to gen 10, so what that they have an extra stage, all other animals still take 3 times longer to breed due to long pregnancy times, just refill their grain every other day

>>719134415 (OP)
>>better than minecraft
where are the VS maid mods?

>>719160249
and I should mention, this was in response to backlash after he hired a bunch of the former Hytale devs and started talking about making a separate game in the style of VS that would be a spiritual successor to Hytale, naturally the whole community warned him to not spread himself too thin and not to abandon VS and this was his response

>>719155458
I also didn't have that hard of a time finding various stones in the newer version, though I started cave diving a lot more which might be the reason for my recent success. Borax is the only early-mid game mineral that requires running around and prospecting, however I always found it in the smallish decent rated patches that spawn all around the map.

>>719145908
I've searched on VS's Discord, supposedly using Hamachi should have fixed your issue. Maybe try Radmin, that's what works for me (while using the server .exe). It's weird if your friend's not on CGNAT and still can't host. There's a chance you did something wrong when setting up your server too, look up your config file and maybe do everything from scratch again, might randomly fix the issue. Other possible solutions:
>find someone else to host
>call your ISP and ask for a static IP (will probably charge you)
>third party hosting (costs money)

>All the good mods are not supported with the new update
Yeah nah fuck this.

>>719162338
no fish particles 4 u

>>719134415 (OP)
Because it's tedious as fuck. It's basically just Minecraft but with more bloated and annoying mechanics.

>>719162338
give it a bit

>>719162396
If 4netplayers were'nt such a massive bitch playing on 19 or 20 could be so easy
>>719162535
When did it release a month ago?

>>719158969
what the hell kind of Sokoto 4th world shithole are you in? currency conversions exist in 99.999% of the world

>>719134415 (OP)
I don't want realistic survival or deep systems, I just want to build shit.

>>719163096
Yeah with an international card or PayPal, neither of witch I feel like using for obvious reasons linked to recent events

>>719139628
no, the leaves will turn white under certain temperature like they build up frost before any kind of snow starts

>>719163141
then why are you on a thread about a game about realistic survival systems? you didn't come here just to complain right anon?

>>719163354
because OP is trying to posit VS as superior to minecraft in all cases, when, in some cases, it is not

>>719163029
>When did it release a month ago?
2 days ago, but I'd wait until all things that the update broke get fixed, which might take a month or so

>>719163354
i scrolled past a question openly posed to anyone reading it:
>Why aren't you playing it?
if you want a thread of people who play the game, try a different approach in the OP

>>719163141
VS with its chiseling system blows Minecraft out of the water when it comes to building shit

>>719134415 (OP)
>Why aren't you playing it?
>decide to try it with a friend
>started crashing drivers in the menu screen, not sure why
>decide to restart pc
>check afterburner
>gpu sitting at 97°C
>mfw

>>719163480
2 days? Yeah ok, then whatever. I cant expect a modder to work like an employee

>>719134415 (OP)
and why do (You) care so much about which singleplayer game I choose to partake in?

>>719134415 (OP)
It's a great game, but once you get to iron age the content and challenge largely dries up, and you're left doing things for the sake of it. If you have a creative muse, you might really enjoy just building random shit until the end of time like minecraft, but mine doesn't stretch that far.

>>719163770
right but how long did it take to autistically chisel out blocks as opposed to right clicking one time to place a block and then moving on

>>719164042
depends on how autistic you are about details

>>719163972
I live in your walls.

I only play this shit with a bunch of other anon on /vm/ what do you mean OP

>>719134415 (OP)
>Remember to rotate your crops
5 words in and I can already smell the giga-autism.
I want to have adventures and fun while doing some survival on the side. Any time anyone talks about Vintage Story it's all spreadsheets and needless realism.

how easy is it to pirate i won't buy it until i know i like it

>>719164736
Is that nigger on the right in a wheelchair?

>>719134415 (OP)
>derivative
>not on steam
>fruity dev who likes to argue
honestly would rather play wurm

>>719164976
Piss easy.

>>719165160
>>fruity dev who likes to argue
Can you share some information about that? I'm curious.

>>719165160
Wurm is fucking awesome.

>>719164976
Considering its not on steam and lacking any anti cheat probably piss easy

>>719134415 (OP)
looks ugly

>>719165127
Yeah but we had to custom create it with a chisel then dump it in the pool before we filled it.

>>719165215
He's an ex-Hytale dev who has recently taken to defending his piss poor pacing of updates despite having 25 people on the team and more now that he's bought up the rest of the ex-hytale dev team. Instead he adds lore his wife made and plans on 3 new games instead of updating this with more consistency. Pirate it.

>>719165215
peruse through his site anywhere he responds to comments once you realize he's being snide he comes across as a horribly catty

Wish I could visit Sahara right now...

>>719165421
But why

>>719165709
Someone thought it would be funny I guess.

>>719165787
When i'm on vacation i will get drunk and harass your gay little server. NO MORE BUTTPLAY YOU HEAR BOY

>>719154762
There are degrees of realism, and somewhat realistic video games can let you do things in games that you cannot do in real life, while still giving you an idea of how it might feel, which will of course never truly like doing it in rl. For example, if you want to manage your own farm, a video game can leave most aspects of it realistic but only change growth time of crops, to make it so you don't have to literally play for month until you can harvest something.

>>719165990
That one and the wheelchair are from a modded server but feel free to join us on /vm/ or the guys on /mlp/ for more servers if you wanted to play MP

>>719134415 (OP)
No steam release. I'm not giving my fucking credit card info to a random person.

>>719166415
Are we going to frot in a stinky fur tent?

>>719134415 (OP)
I have so many mods installed on Minecraft that I haven’t updated since summer of 2021… Just been playing that ever since.

>>719165280
could do with a new wurm, still low spec but with a framework that isnt 20 years of patchwork tripping over its self

>>719166191
not only that but plowing a field by hand in the sun isn't exactly a fun activity

>>719134415 (OP)
i played it, got to steel and then it was like what do i do, then i quit

>>719167209
Its ok anon, somtimes its hard to take a step into something new

>>719134415 (OP)
what map settings would you recommend if you don't want to travel a million kilometers to find everything you need, but not kill the exploration aspect? Default settings are a bit too realisitc with how the map can generate in such a way that you might have to travel 30k blocks from start to find limestone to finally make leather, or that orange stuff you need for steel making.

Is there any new interesting update coming soon or no?

>>719134415 (OP)
because modding is for trannies

>>719168338
>if you don't want to travel a million kilometers to find everything you need
no settings can mitigate this, best you can do is just restard until you get a world seed that spawns you in a limestone or chalk biome, you're still gonna have to out and find bauxite and all the other materials needed for refractory bricks if steel is your end goal

>>719134415 (OP)
>Why aren't you playing it?
I hate the shitty blocky graphics that Minecraft faggots gaslight everyone into believing they are good visuals.

>>719168526
meh, I had maps where I traveled like 5k blocks in each direction, found lime, but not bauxite, or the other way around. Running in one direction for days while scanning the map for that thing you need is only fun for so long.

>>719169070
repairing translocators and not playing with the piss map can help a ton

>>719169271
The ingame map is such bullshit

>>719169502
it does help make the map not look like complete shit after a single winter but other than it's really bad

>>719169616
I play without map or in 1.19 i used that mod were you had to craft a ton of shit and still only had a ruff idea where you were.

>>719169769
that's too autistic for me

I was travelling through the desert. fell down a random hole and found this. peak.

>>719170042
Of course.

>>719140865
>-I don't like the parkinson's aim.
don't wear full plate you fucking moron

Might try this out .
Does it support controllers ?

>>719171579
Not native, you have to open the game through steam. Don't get why you would, Vintage Story is designed around keyboard.

>>719171854
I treat my gaming PC like a console because sitting at a desk feels like work

>>719170412
better ruins?

>>719134415 (OP)
>realistic survival mechanics like seasons
>indepth building, cooking, brewing, beekeeping
that's i why i dont want to play, if I wanted a more realistic experience I'd mod minecraft anyways

>>719134415 (OP)
slow and boring
I get my vs injections whenever oscillascape uploads

>>719173053
"in depth" is putting a few ingredients in a pot and walking away. One of the best things about this game is it's restraint when it comes to mechanical complexity. nothing overstays it's welcome but there is still enough complexity where thinking with your brain feels rewarding.

>>719134561
I played a realistic modpack with my friends earlier this year for the first time and it was an interesting novelty at first, but quickly became a slog because being realistic meant spending literally most of the game waiting because everything 10x longer to grow or smelt, and multiplying those needs by like 5 people.
Most of our playtime I was just doing shitty chores like picking rocks and panning for minerals just to access the bare minimum mechanics of minecraft like being able to break or build with blocks.

>>719134415 (OP)
>no create