Thread 719140967

>you can dodge, slow mo, parry, and counter hit
This is not horror

gorgeous asian waifu

>>719140967 (OP)
i don't know why they called it a silent hill game

>>719140967 (OP)
>>719141529
You can do most of those things in SH1, its only lacking the slow mo.

>>719140967 (OP)
the director called it a souls like. so its a souls like

>>719140967 (OP)
this looks like shit but you play as a glorious nipponese schoolgirl so /v/ will probably love it

Resident Evil 4 did the exact same thing and you gargle it's balls at every oportunity
Shut the fuck up

Eileen shaving

>>719143151
You can't even see panties. What's the point.

>>719143272
You can't see them yet.

>>719140967 (OP)
Silent Souls or Dark Hill?

>>719142678
He literally said the opposite of that.

>This shit in a couple of weeks
>Return to Silent Hill movie in february
>Probably Silent Hill remake info around march
Humilliation ritual

>>719143241
The only post I look forward to in these threads.

>"noooo why does it have gameplay in my video game!?"
>"it needs to be a shitty walking sim with bad controls like my boomerslop!"
ZoomerGODs are saving the industry from shitty millenial movie non-games.

>>719143830
I'm fine with gameplay in my horror games, Dead Space 2 is still my favourite horror game but if the action gets in the way of the horror I think it's fair to criticise it. If a horror game is too action focused to the point where it stops being scary you've fucked up. It remains to be seen if that applies to f yet but from what I've seen so far it seems that is indeed the case.

>>719143830
Everyone mad at F for the combat is a pretentious retard that unironically believes horror has to have dogshit controls to be scary

>>719143830
All of this generic UE5 gameplay is peak moviegame.
Real ludokino doesn't use generic, stapled on gameplay like Z-targeting parryslop or cover-based shooting
>>719144043
Horror is determined by context, therefore it is determined by kinematography. You can not have horror and also have a third person free camera.

>>719143702
We already had that with Silent Hill Ascension and The Short Message.

>>719144176
So it's 2 dogshits and one good game?
Is Bloober exploiting this?

>>719141331
>All that lightning and calculated angle
Not cute

>>719144165
>You can not have horror and also have a third person free camera.
Lowest IQ post in this thread

>>719140967 (OP)
>You get an uzi, katana, and can turn into a magical girl
SH3 is not horror.

I dunno, actually being able to fight back used to work well in horror games.

>>719140967 (OP)
>This is not horror
Neither is 2

>>719144607
It still has some scary stuff despite that. 2 though...

>>719141331
3DPD

>>719144773
You can't handle the oven mitts hands, Anon. Stick to 3d

>>719145201
R07 is a hack and his fanbase is retarded.

>core aspect of the game's narrative focuses around the protagonist Hinako and her struggles of trying to fight the societal oppression women face so for this game players can follow her journey trying to fight such oppression
lmao just look at this fucking faggot

>>719140967 (OP)
>hurr durr if it has combat its not horror
and yet, all of the best horror games had combat, and all of the worst ones didnt.
running and hiding in lockers is lame and gay, Amnesia was never good, and penumbra was better for this reason alone. Facts.
if you cant fight, you KNOW running and hiding WILL work, because it has to.

>b-but anon OP specifically meant this ga-
you dont know how hard its going to get and how dangerous combat will be
>y-yeah but dodging and countering isnt silent hi-
silent hill one had all of this except slow mo
>T-thats right t-the slow mo is going to rui-
you control the buttons you press.

>>719143702
>>719144176
ITS TRAUMA
(for you, the fans)

holy kino 4th wall breaking ludo narrative

>>719144165
>You can not have horror and also have a third person free camera.

>>719143183
>Resident Evil 4 did the exact same thing and you gargle it's balls at every oportunity
tvke
>>719143641
snoy hill

>>719147161
wtf I didn't know you can parry bullets in this game

>>719140967 (OP)
We live in strange time where Silent Hill want to become Resident Evil and vice versa.

>>719140967 (OP)
NOOOO YOU CANT HAVE GAMEPLAY IN MY SPOOKY WALKING SIM

>>719147320
pretty much any attack that's not a grab can be parried

>>719147082
>>719147161
>>719147249
>>719147340
>Implements parry out of its ass
>Dodgerolling, which could be an interesting committal defensive move, is still contextual instead
Sekiro did irreparable damage to this industry and should have never happened

>>719143183
Well, but resident evil is zombie action game, not 2spooky4u supernatural shit

>>719141331
Is this the "i can feel my sanity slipping" actress?

>>719141331
she looks liker remu suzumori

>>719140967 (OP)
>mc looks like 9/10 in irl Japan
>4chan latinx be like "yooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo mc is guly, dei, woke, sweetbaby, bloober, esg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
You fucking degen faggots clearly never been to japan, not a surprise tho, Brazil favela poor monkeys clearly never touched airfort due to poverty

is anyone else getting tired of this sort of combat system in general, i don't understand how callisto protocol basically got buried in shit for being melee-centric and meh while silent hill 2 remake is a best seller for oversaturating the game with melee and cheap shot ambushes

>>719141331
I agree she's cute but has the western stand become so low that an average asian girl mogs every girl this side of Istambul?

>>719149895
Ask me how I can tell you've never played the Calisto Proticol

>>719140967 (OP)
Horror shit is bad and anybody who likes that shit is also bad. Monsters are for killing.

>>719150070
did you care for it

>>719149968
You mean american women, Europe is doing fine and is probably leading the beauty standards.

>>719142376
it was a different time, playing on a d-pad. the controllers were ass and no one knew how the fuck to play a game and went in blind 90% of the time. it's just not comparable.

>>719150146
No, CP is bad. SH2 remake is good. When you play both you can really understand why one is good and the other is bad

>>719150193
This woman is failing the weight of consent and bust of consent. You are a pedophile.

>>719150298
Believe it or not many gamers had played games for many years before the ps1 came out and didn't get filtered by standard controls.

>>719140967 (OP)
I think anyone calling this a soulslike is retarded. Just because it has stamina management and dodging does not make in one.
Theres a few mechanics that would make it one though.
>it has to be an rpg
>it has to have a currency that you can grind for from killing enemies
>you use the currency to either level up or use it to buy items from npcs
>if you die you lose items or currencies but can get it back from the place you died at
>need to have some kind of checkpoint or rest area that lets you reset the area and enemies so you can go back and earn currency again and again.
These are the mechanics that made souls game unique
So far the game has no one these

>>719149401
There's actually a really good mod that lets you dodge and it makes the game 100 times more fun

Silent Hill 2 (original)
>Enemies are barely aggressive compared to SH1
>Even on hard mode you get hundreds of handgun bullets in the first hour
>Infinite inventory space
>Can easily kill every enemy
Silent Hill 4
>Enemies actively hunt you down
>Barely any ammo, melee weapons break, some bad players run out of heals entirely
>Limited inventory space
>It is literally impossible to kill every enemy
You don't want real horror.

>>719152753
For the first half of the game you heal for free in your apartment, so it's really obvious that you don't need to use healing items very often and you'll enter the second half of the game with a crazy amount of items.

It's a good surprise but still. Free healing at checkpoints.

>>719141331
used up hag with body count of 999 that pretends she is still a teen

>>719153018
body count is all me

>>719145905
The issue is not with having combat, it's with skill-based combat. Combat in a horror game should always come with some sort of uncertainty like expending your resources or risking damage or being sent back to a checkpoint. Classic RE did this reasonably well, so did SH1 and 3. Dead Space is already pushing it, and RE4 is just action. If a difference between a good player and a bad player is not having to worry about surviving at all, then it's a shitty horror.

>>719140967 (OP)
wait it's a horror game? I thought it's a soulslike

>>719152753
The melee weapons to not all break. That’s reserved to the golf clubs, and I guess the wine bottle which you can still use.

>>719140967 (OP)

instead of making horror part of the atmosphere or story, they put it in the game mechanics

it's the most innovative silent hill yet

>>719150363
>SH2 remake is good
LOL
LMAO
that woke shit was trash

>>719152106
>hairy armpits
Very gay

>>719153960
cope and seethe!

>>719140967 (OP)
Serious question: How is it possible for large developers to be THIS disconnected from reality?

>>719141529
It's a spin-off stop being so dramatic. We've had a literal movie with a battle pass as a SH spin-off just now. This is hardly offensive in comparison

>remake
BOOOOOOOO FUCK THIS SHITTY INDUSTRY IT RUINS THE ORIGINAL GAME ITS SHIT
>new game
BOOOOOOOO FUCK THIS SHITTY INDUSTRY THEY CANT EVEN MAKE A GOOD NEW GAME ITS SHIT
I know the reason why some anons are like this but after 5 years of it im getting some serious fatigue

>>719147082
this kind of shit is why I will never buy the RE4 demake
they ruined leon and ashley too

>>719154306
Being poor

>>719154135
that's actually a swarm of spiders in her armpit

>>719140967 (OP)
a game with combat is not horror. even in the best horror games all tension disappears the moment you engage an enemy

>>719154212
Reality is people just gobbled up SH2R which was a fast paced action game

>>719154532
Wrong

>>719154585
name one horror game that maintains the illusion of horror during combat

>>719154548
And which reality is that because in our reality it was a resounding flop.

>>719154532
Idiot

>>719154532
dead space scared me

>>719154845
>namecalling instead of trying to prove him wrong

>>719154642
Dead Space by making enemies actually threatening and requiring more nuanced methods for dealing with them

>>719140967 (OP)
Kind of a strange conundrum. Make the combat fun and engaging, you sap away all of the tension and horror. Make it shit, and you well... make it shit.

>>719154642
Silent Hill 3

>>719154907
nta but his point and probably the person behind the post are so fucking stupid whats even the point of arguing with them? Why would anyone waste 15 min of their time arguing with dogshit asking why the owner didnt pick them up.

>>719140967 (OP)
This is what happens when you let gamers design a horror game.

No, having a huge gun or sword doesn’t make the game better, it makes it less scary which is the entire point.

>>719143183
Can't wait for the next gears of war, dead space and last of us games to adopt gameplay mechanics from this silent hill like they did from RE4.

>>719150193
lol no.

>>719154929
not a horror game
>>719155045
wrong

>>719155029
You can have fun combat but you need to do it right. For one difficulty balance is insanely important cause if you make the game too easy you suck out all tension from fights and in the same vein if the game is too hard and you die a lot it also stops being scary as you become desensitised to it.

>>719155194
lol yes

>>719155208
Retard

>>719140967 (OP)
And in Vampire the Masquerade I could move at super speed and was carrying a shotgun and I still shat my pants in the hotel

>>719155194
This is what mutts consider attractive, btw

>>719150527
How long did they play 3d games on those controls before ps1 came out?

>>719149401
Skeiro is fucking awesome, shut your ass. The problem with RE4R is they heard all the criticism over QTE's and then just arbitrarily cut back on a bunch while leaving others in so it feels clunky and you have to rely on painfully slow, cumbersome movement or a super brittle parry knife.

this isnt even silent hill

they shouldve named this something else

but not silent hill

>>719155315
Obsessed.

>>719140967 (OP)
>heres that deeply disturbing psychological horror i told you about
looks like japanese wuchang or some shit. why the fuck is this silent hill?

>>719155208
>wrong
No u

>>719155362
Zoomers are fucking retarded

They could salvage this game if they just removed the freeze frame hit shit.

>>719154532
Horror games with unkillable monsters that you can only run away from are dumb. Choosing to stand your ground and actually engage them should always be an option even if it's a difficult one

>>719155362
blame outlast, amnesia and fnaf. its not REAL horror if you can defend yourself, then its just fortnite!

>>719140967 (OP)
Every fucking game has to have a dodge roll and parry in it.

>>719140967 (OP)
So? Story and atmosphere create good psychological horror, the combat barely matters.
If anything, complex combat mechanics are better than the alternative. Running and hiding gets tedious after a while.

>>719155445
>O-obsessed...
insecure.

>>719156010
I don't think about you at all, meanwhile you can't go one thread without crying about my country.

>>719155362
Was Dead Space a good horror? A good TPS, yes, but not a good horror.

>>719156142
>someone mentions the US
>ever
>in any thread
>instant mutt crying and seething
>instant insecure pouting
>"I-I dont c-care about you at all!"

then why did you instantly start crying about it?

>>719156256
>spends entire thread crying about mutts
>why are you noticing my seething about your country??
retard

>>719156614
>gets called out for insecurity
>"uh oh hes right fuck I am exposed!"
>lies and cope to deflect
why are all americans like this?

>>719155627
They just need to cut the time it lasts in half

>>719150298
Ever heard of a game manual dumb ass. The controls weren't part of a games challenge lmao

>>719140967 (OP)
>This is not horror
>horror is when... combat bad?

>>719156859
Maybe less than 10% of PS1 games had manuals

>>719157068
every single PS1 game had either a manual, or an in game tutorial.
I just replayed ape escape and they will literally tell you the same control three times in a row.

>>719140967 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUwRmvdGLQs

when will non gamers just stop and leave?

>>719153338
Older survival horror games succumb to player skill just the same way.

>"oh no, I was bullied so hard. life is so unfair ,_,"
>"no so fast!"
>backflips while slashing some knife doll creeping on her in half
>"ora ora ora!"
>does a million stab, then kicks monster high into the air
>"omae wa, shin de iru"
>shoots hi-
>"oh, I don't have guns. Life is so unfair ,_,"
>level end scores and drumroll: style SSS, time SSS, depression B, total rank S
>"Guess it can't be helped."

>>719152753
SH4 is secretly best silent hill, silent hill 4 remake could be amazing done right, im not sure blooper can pull that off tho.

>>719157991
The ghosts ruin the game

>>719143702
The movie was pretty well received and it had a choreographed kung fu fight between Pyramid Head and someone else, the woman I think but maybe the dude. We're long past the point of humiliation with this franchise, I'm just happy to try a new game that looks better to me than Homecoming and Downpour and the SH2 remake.

>>719154642
RE4

>>719144043
This.

>>719157982
Score and rank? Pshaw, there's no way they would add something so silly and juvenile to a serious horror series like Silent Hill.

>>719158023
Stick to SH2 retard

I was very hopeful for for Ryushiki07 work for SH f, but seeing that gameplay was awful. It is not scary at all and just looks like an action game.

It is not about bad controls or good controls, the way these fights are presented look like goofy action game bosses. Like typical souls-like enemy mobs. I think the modernizing aspect of the game prevents instanced levels where you could run past the enemies, a classic mechanic and something done in horror games to make enemies truly annoying and scary where your recourse is running instead of fighting them.

>>719158389
Those things are gated behind your first playthrough. Scores, time attack, silly endings, secret weapons and all this stuff are for repeat walkthroughs - when you already know the game well enough.
Not that I actually need to tell you about this, argue-in-bad-faith-kun.

>>719141331
cute!

>>719159406
This right here is why SH2 fans are so hated.

>>719159406
It was a joke. You need to relax.

>>719155208
Retard.

>>719155398
Loud Hill

>>719159547
Pretty much.

>>719152753
>implying the spooky beat em up is real horror
Lmao

>>719159590
I don't trust you enough to believe that it was a joke, sorry. There's far too many retards here who genuinely believe that every game ever should be just like their favorite game but with some token things thrown in, like epic rape pyramid man in case of SH.

>>0719159547
Nigger

>>719143702
lol, lmao
You're getting Townfall news next year.

>>719140967 (OP)
>souls-like
*checks out*
seeya, i'll wait for remake of 1.

>>719149968
thats always been the case